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There has been no definite evidence to prove these theories at all. Shouldn't all monkeys have evolved to being man by now.
evolution may not lie, as there is some evidence evolving today. for example there are several types of animals that are actually the same but because different places they become different. that evolution does not happen quickly but it takes even millions of years,
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this WHOLE topic is a PARADOX
believer and non believers arguing about evolution.
Believer : Believe in idea X. Will never "evolve" or change its mind since he BELIEVE idea X and no other one.
Non Believer : evaluate different ideas, and try to determine wether idea X, Y, Z, D1, H8 or any other might be right. with each new proof and fact, the non believer will get closer to the answer and the problem's solution. He will change from an idea to an other given the advancement of the study.
Fact : Evolution doesn't need anybody to believe in. everybody belongs to some era of the evolution. Believers and non Believers are co-existing in our era.
but, just like any other species, ceased to exist because of some changes in climate or other parameters. ( such as the dinos ).
the believer concept may cease to exist in a far future because of the so called evolution changes. nothing last foerever, expecially fixed things, and of course fixed ideas. that's also the main reasons a lot of religious beliefs disappeard over time.
believers, be open minded, and changes your models when needed, this may help your religions last longuer.
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Again, three of the many things that prove that evolution is impossible are: 1. Math probability; 2. Irreducible Complexity; 3. The complexity of universal cause and effect, without pure random ever being proven anywhere = no mutations that really have not been programmed into the universe. Google "proof that evolution fails" or any other words that look for that proof. Look for any explanations that try to rebut the proof that evolution is impossible. Then, read the rebuttals to see that they are always based in something else that is not proven, or they are circular language that tries to prove evolution simply by stating in many different ways that evolution is fact, without showing any real proof. Evolution scientists have been looking for proof of evolution since before Darwin. Over that time, they have redefined all kinds of things because they can't find proof for evolution anywhere that hasn't been rebutted. Currently, part of their definition of evolution includes that evolution is mere change, just so that they can say that evolution is fact, because change is fact. Evolution is a complete hoax. And scientists who would otherwise be honest, are proving that evolution is a hoax by twisting the idea around so extremely much, because they so want evolution to be true. I don’t get it? Mutations goes on, on a daily basic! You don’t look like your father right? You might have different hair color, different shoe size, might be taller, slimmer, run faster, be a better (or worse) athlete, wider face, longer finger, longer legs etc. And that is just the physical changes. There is a whole range of mind changes going on also. This is just the obvious changes. You got an even amount of hidden changes, which will not be obvious right away. This is just one generation. Imagine 1000 or 100.000 generations. Now changes themselves are not enough. There are 3 rules that need to become true in order for changes to become permanent in any society. 1) It needs to give you an edge in the mating game. It can be every so good a change, if it does not allow you to prorogate better or at least equal good, it is worthless. 2) It needs to be beneficial for society; two head might think twice as fast, but if society is scared of you, it is no good. 3) The lucky game. Just because you for fill 1) and 2), does not mean your offspring will. Right back to the start of this writing; you don’t look like your father! If your offspring does not carry it on in equal positive manner, it’s just a dead end. This goes on every single day, for 10 million newborns. Changes are everywhere, permanently changes are one in a million, and takes many many 10.000 of years. He is a religious nut job and anything that he considers threatening to his religion is fake or a hoax. That's how most religious people work. That's 99.99% of the opposition against evolution calling it fake.
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Again, three of the many things that prove that evolution is impossible are: 1. Math probability; 2. Irreducible Complexity; 3. The complexity of universal cause and effect, without pure random ever being proven anywhere = no mutations that really have not been programmed into the universe. Google "proof that evolution fails" or any other words that look for that proof. Look for any explanations that try to rebut the proof that evolution is impossible. Then, read the rebuttals to see that they are always based in something else that is not proven, or they are circular language that tries to prove evolution simply by stating in many different ways that evolution is fact, without showing any real proof. Evolution scientists have been looking for proof of evolution since before Darwin. Over that time, they have redefined all kinds of things because they can't find proof for evolution anywhere that hasn't been rebutted. Currently, part of their definition of evolution includes that evolution is mere change, just so that they can say that evolution is fact, because change is fact. Evolution is a complete hoax. And scientists who would otherwise be honest, are proving that evolution is a hoax by twisting the idea around so extremely much, because they so want evolution to be true. I don’t get it? Mutations goes on, on a daily basic! You don’t look like your father right? You might have different hair color, different shoe size, might be taller, slimmer, run faster, be a better (or worse) athlete, wider face, longer finger, longer legs etc. And that is just the physical changes. There is a whole range of mind changes going on also. This is just the obvious changes. You got an even amount of hidden changes, which will not be obvious right away. This is just one generation. Imagine 1000 or 100.000 generations. Now changes themselves are not enough. There are 3 rules that need to become true in order for changes to become permanent in any society. 1) It needs to give you an edge in the mating game. It can be every so good a change, if it does not allow you to prorogate better or at least equal good, it is worthless. 2) It needs to be beneficial for society; two head might think twice as fast, but if society is scared of you, it is no good. 3) The lucky game. Just because you for fill 1) and 2), does not mean your offspring will. Right back to the start of this writing; you don’t look like your father! If your offspring does not carry it on in equal positive manner, it’s just a dead end. This goes on every single day, for 10 million newborns. Changes are everywhere, permanently changes are one in a million, and takes many many 10.000 of years. He is a religious nut job and anything that he considers threatening to his religion is fake or a hoax. That's how most religious people work. That's 99.99% of the opposition against evolution calling it fake. Calling the theory of evolution fake has nothing to do with religious people seeing it as a threat to their religion, as far as the world knows, there hasn't been anything proven to justify this whole thing at all and without the evidence why would anyone believe we evolved from monkeys, why hasn't the other monkeys evolved as well.
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I have yet to see how can nothing make a complex DNA by chance (lottery). I would like to see that?
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Evolution is just a working model and it can be improved; if someone has a better one - without putting in action some kind of God - we'll listen.
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December 02, 2017, 08:13:58 PM |
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Again, three of the many things that prove that evolution is impossible are: 1. Math probability; 2. Irreducible Complexity; 3. The complexity of universal cause and effect, without pure random ever being proven anywhere = no mutations that really have not been programmed into the universe. Google "proof that evolution fails" or any other words that look for that proof. Look for any explanations that try to rebut the proof that evolution is impossible. Then, read the rebuttals to see that they are always based in something else that is not proven, or they are circular language that tries to prove evolution simply by stating in many different ways that evolution is fact, without showing any real proof. Evolution scientists have been looking for proof of evolution since before Darwin. Over that time, they have redefined all kinds of things because they can't find proof for evolution anywhere that hasn't been rebutted. Currently, part of their definition of evolution includes that evolution is mere change, just so that they can say that evolution is fact, because change is fact. Evolution is a complete hoax. And scientists who would otherwise be honest, are proving that evolution is a hoax by twisting the idea around so extremely much, because they so want evolution to be true. I don’t get it? Mutations goes on, on a daily basic! You don’t look like your father right? You might have different hair color, different shoe size, might be taller, slimmer, run faster, be a better (or worse) athlete, wider face, longer finger, longer legs etc. And that is just the physical changes. There is a whole range of mind changes going on also. This is just the obvious changes. You got an even amount of hidden changes, which will not be obvious right away. This is just one generation. Imagine 1000 or 100.000 generations. Now changes themselves are not enough. There are 3 rules that need to become true in order for changes to become permanent in any society. 1) It needs to give you an edge in the mating game. It can be every so good a change, if it does not allow you to prorogate better or at least equal good, it is worthless. 2) It needs to be beneficial for society; two head might think twice as fast, but if society is scared of you, it is no good. 3) The lucky game. Just because you for fill 1) and 2), does not mean your offspring will. Right back to the start of this writing; you don’t look like your father! If your offspring does not carry it on in equal positive manner, it’s just a dead end. This goes on every single day, for 10 million newborns. Changes are everywhere, permanently changes are one in a million, and takes many many 10.000 of years. He is a religious nut job and anything that he considers threatening to his religion is fake or a hoax. That's how most religious people work. That's 99.99% of the opposition against evolution calling it fake. Calling the theory of evolution fake has nothing to do with religious people seeing it as a threat to their religion, as far as the world knows, there hasn't been anything proven to justify this whole thing at all and without the evidence why would anyone believe we evolved from monkeys, why hasn't the other monkeys evolved as well. Don't quote me again, use google and do some research by yourself instead of posting this retarded meme. You people are so cringy.
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Let me answer this very simply, evolution is a proven fact, not a theory.
Your initial logic is flawed, we did not evolve from monkeys, homo sapiens and monkeys evolved from an early common ancestor. Whilst all life on earth evolved from the universally common ancestor abbreviated LUCA. It is deeply saddening to see that people remain so ignorant.
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Evolution is just a working model and it can be improved; if someone has a better one - without putting in action some kind of God - we'll listen.
Absolutely. I've the impression that most people have no idea how science works
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I have yet to see how can nothing make a complex DNA by chance (lottery). I would like to see that?
I have yet to see how we have modern super fast computers from nothing too...
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I have yet to see how can nothing make a complex DNA by chance (lottery). I would like to see that?
I love this argument, always highlights the dullards of the forum. The universe is unimaginably vast, time may be infinite. Do you really think, that despite this great potential for interactions to occur, that DNA is absolutely impossible? That on none of the innumerable worlds, across immeasurable timeframes, the right conditions never came to exist that a DNA like precursor could arise?
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Let me answer this very simply, evolution is a proven fact, not a theory.
Your initial logic is flawed, we did not evolve from monkeys, homo sapiens and monkeys evolved from an early common ancestor. Whilst all life on earth evolved from the universally common ancestor abbreviated LUCA. It is deeply saddening to see that people remain so ignorant.
So what come before LUCA? ..Who planted LUCA ? So if you rewind a human what would it look like before we was human?.. Ape monkey like?..Why are we called a human and not an ape?.. Frog a toad both the same but different and 1 speaks frog and the other speaks toad .. Ape human Frog toad Normally when frogs and toads share the same pond, their mating occurs at different times. However, as the photo shows, occasionally a late coming frog (the one with the white throat) may turn up on the toad dating scene. You may see them trying to mate each other but the union will be sterile. Ape and a human can share the same jungle ..And sometimes they do the same as the frog and toad .. And we have no babies ..Oh you might get aids ..
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Let me answer this very simply, evolution is a proven fact, not a theory.
Your initial logic is flawed, we did not evolve from monkeys, homo sapiens and monkeys evolved from an early common ancestor. Whilst all life on earth evolved from the universally common ancestor abbreviated LUCA. It is deeply saddening to see that people remain so ignorant.
So what come before LUCA? ..Who planted LUCA ? So if you rewind a human what would it look like before we was human?.. Ape monkey like?..Why are we called a human and not an ape?.. Frog a toad both the same but different and 1 speaks frog and the other speaks toad .. Ape human Frog toad Normally when frogs and toads share the same pond, their mating occurs at different times. However, as the photo shows, occasionally a late coming frog (the one with the white throat) may turn up on the toad dating scene. You may see them trying to mate each other but the union will be sterile. Ape and a human can share the same jungle ..And sometimes they do the same as the frog and toad .. And we have no babies ..Oh you might get aids .. If you want to be technical, modern humans are known as homo sapiens sapiens, around 100,000-1,000,000 years ago there were more than one variant of "human" walking the earth, hominids such as homo sapiens neanderthalensis walked alongside pre-modern man. The earliest common ancestor was generated from proto-life molecules, such as the universal replicator and virion type particles. Mating did occur between Neanderthals and Sapiens, even between Sapiens and Homo erectus, this is known due to the presence of their DNA in the modern human gene pool.
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See i wonder if we humans called our selves human to say we are different a higher specie? .. A human to have humanity? many animals show kindness and love just the same way as a human so they show humanity .. So animals who show love and affection are they not humans?<Humanity=humans? Now do we call humans because humankind.. We are the higher specie we are human not animal?.. See we created the word human what makes us more human than a orangutan .. Humanity humankind all about showing we care more than other species when it's a fact we don't.. So we call our selves the humanity ones not the animals.. When really we are the worst predators I.E specie on this planet .. We can destroy the whole world and blow it up into nothing .. So are we HUMAN? ..I bet a gold fish wouldn't say so ..
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Let me answer this very simply, evolution is a proven fact, not a theory.
Your initial logic is flawed, we did not evolve from monkeys, homo sapiens and monkeys evolved from an early common ancestor. Whilst all life on earth evolved from the universally common ancestor abbreviated LUCA. It is deeply saddening to see that people remain so ignorant.
So what come before LUCA? ..Who planted LUCA ? So if you rewind a human what would it look like before we was human?.. Ape monkey like?..Why are we called a human and not an ape?.. Frog a toad both the same but different and 1 speaks frog and the other speaks toad .. Ape human Frog toad Normally when frogs and toads share the same pond, their mating occurs at different times. However, as the photo shows, occasionally a late coming frog (the one with the white throat) may turn up on the toad dating scene. You may see them trying to mate each other but the union will be sterile. Ape and a human can share the same jungle ..And sometimes they do the same as the frog and toad .. And we have no babies ..Oh you might get aids .. If you want to be technical, modern humans are known as homo sapiens sapiens, around 100,000-1,000,000 years ago there were more than one variant of "human" walking the earth, hominids such as homo sapiens neanderthalensis walked alongside pre-modern man. The earliest common ancestor was generated from proto-life molecules, such as the universal replicator and virion type particles. Mating did occur between Neanderthals and Sapiens, even between Sapiens and Homo erectus, this is known due to the presence of their DNA in the modern human gene pool. Ok you know more than me so i let you off ..
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Let me answer this very simply, evolution is a proven fact, not a theory.
Your initial logic is flawed, we did not evolve from monkeys, homo sapiens and monkeys evolved from an early common ancestor. Whilst all life on earth evolved from the universally common ancestor abbreviated LUCA. It is deeply saddening to see that people remain so ignorant.
So what come before LUCA? ..Who planted LUCA ? So if you rewind a human what would it look like before we was human?.. Ape monkey like?..Why are we called a human and not an ape?.. Frog a toad both the same but different and 1 speaks frog and the other speaks toad .. Ape human Frog toad Normally when frogs and toads share the same pond, their mating occurs at different times. However, as the photo shows, occasionally a late coming frog (the one with the white throat) may turn up on the toad dating scene. You may see them trying to mate each other but the union will be sterile. Ape and a human can share the same jungle ..And sometimes they do the same as the frog and toad .. And we have no babies ..Oh you might get aids .. If you want to be technical, modern humans are known as homo sapiens sapiens, around 100,000-1,000,000 years ago there were more than one variant of "human" walking the earth, hominids such as homo sapiens neanderthalensis walked alongside pre-modern man. The earliest common ancestor was generated from proto-life molecules, such as the universal replicator and virion type particles. Mating did occur between Neanderthals and Sapiens, even between Sapiens and Homo erectus, this is known due to the presence of their DNA in the modern human gene pool. Neanderthals and Sapiens are you saying they are 2 different specie type humans?.. aboriginie and a westerners same as Neanderthals and Sapiens both could mate with each other same as aboriginie and westerner .. My idea is a monkey or ape might of had incest and that changed the looks .. What do you think seems you know all about EVOLUTION .. Is my thinking wrong ?..Or possible i could be right and that's how some changes could of happened?.. Or incest AUTISTIC APE and the change come and the smartness .. So could i be right is it possible ?.. See if you say no it's not possible i will change my thinking ..
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Let me answer this very simply, evolution is a proven fact, not a theory.
Your initial logic is flawed, we did not evolve from monkeys, homo sapiens and monkeys evolved from an early common ancestor. Whilst all life on earth evolved from the universally common ancestor abbreviated LUCA. It is deeply saddening to see that people remain so ignorant.
So what come before LUCA? ..Who planted LUCA ? So if you rewind a human what would it look like before we was human?.. Ape monkey like?..Why are we called a human and not an ape?.. Frog a toad both the same but different and 1 speaks frog and the other speaks toad .. Ape human Frog toad Normally when frogs and toads share the same pond, their mating occurs at different times. However, as the photo shows, occasionally a late coming frog (the one with the white throat) may turn up on the toad dating scene. You may see them trying to mate each other but the union will be sterile. Ape and a human can share the same jungle ..And sometimes they do the same as the frog and toad .. And we have no babies ..Oh you might get aids .. If you want to be technical, modern humans are known as homo sapiens sapiens, around 100,000-1,000,000 years ago there were more than one variant of "human" walking the earth, hominids such as homo sapiens neanderthalensis walked alongside pre-modern man. The earliest common ancestor was generated from proto-life molecules, such as the universal replicator and virion type particles. Mating did occur between Neanderthals and Sapiens, even between Sapiens and Homo erectus, this is known due to the presence of their DNA in the modern human gene pool. Neanderthals and Sapiens are you saying they are 2 different specie type humans?.. aboriginie and a westerners same as Neanderthals and Sapiens both could mate with each other same as aboriginie and westerner .. My idea is a monkey or ape might of had incest and that changed the looks .. What do you think seems you know all about EVOLUTION .. Is my thinking wrong ?..Or possible i could be right and that's how some changes could of happened?.. Or incest AUTISTIC APE and the change come and the smartness .. So could i be right is it possible ?.. See if you say no it's not possible i will change my thinking .. Monkeys and Apes cannot breed because of genetic differences, the differences in modern humans, e.g. differences in race, skin colour, muscle tone, intelligence, creativity etc, may be due in part to the percentages of sapiens, erectus, and neanderthalis DNA.
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Let me answer this very simply, evolution is a proven fact, not a theory.
Your initial logic is flawed, we did not evolve from monkeys, homo sapiens and monkeys evolved from an early common ancestor. Whilst all life on earth evolved from the universally common ancestor abbreviated LUCA. It is deeply saddening to see that people remain so ignorant.
So what come before LUCA? ..Who planted LUCA ? So if you rewind a human what would it look like before we was human?.. Ape monkey like?..Why are we called a human and not an ape?.. Frog a toad both the same but different and 1 speaks frog and the other speaks toad .. Ape human Frog toad Normally when frogs and toads share the same pond, their mating occurs at different times. However, as the photo shows, occasionally a late coming frog (the one with the white throat) may turn up on the toad dating scene. You may see them trying to mate each other but the union will be sterile. Ape and a human can share the same jungle ..And sometimes they do the same as the frog and toad .. And we have no babies ..Oh you might get aids .. If you want to be technical, modern humans are known as homo sapiens sapiens, around 100,000-1,000,000 years ago there were more than one variant of "human" walking the earth, hominids such as homo sapiens neanderthalensis walked alongside pre-modern man. The earliest common ancestor was generated from proto-life molecules, such as the universal replicator and virion type particles. Mating did occur between Neanderthals and Sapiens, even between Sapiens and Homo erectus, this is known due to the presence of their DNA in the modern human gene pool. Neanderthals and Sapiens are you saying they are 2 different specie type humans?.. aboriginie and a westerners same as Neanderthals and Sapiens both could mate with each other same as aboriginie and westerner .. My idea is a monkey or ape might of had incest and that changed the looks .. What do you think seems you know all about EVOLUTION .. Is my thinking wrong ?..Or possible i could be right and that's how some changes could of happened?.. Or incest AUTISTIC APE and the change come and the smartness .. So could i be right is it possible ?.. See if you say no it's not possible i will change my thinking .. Monkeys and Apes cannot breed because of genetic differences, the differences in modern humans, e.g. differences in race, skin colour, muscle tone, intelligence, creativity etc, may be due in part to the percentages of sapiens, erectus, and neanderthalis DNA. toad and frog same thing then ..But somewhere along the line they was the same?.. Monkey ape human all the same humanoids .. And as the monkey come first we are descendants of a monkey.. So that makes us cheeky monkeys
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Is this possible ? Aliens could of planted magic stuff and watched it grow and here we are today getting watched by aliens.. Did we evolve on land sea or on rocks moss trees a pond a river ?.. Or did we evolve on this planet and the stuff made from this planet is the same as the next planet.. I.E did aliens take a bag of soil from their planet and drop it off on this planet seeding our world.. Also is another world the same as our world if in the same galaxy .. Big bang so made of the same stuff?.. Then is aliens walking around us and we don't know .. Then is all what we know not real and we live in the matrix.. Or are we a computer program .. Did we die many many light years ago and this is all a program.. Floating in empty space a little chip with all of life programmed into the chip ..
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Is this possible ? Aliens could of planted magic stuff and watched it grow and here we are today getting watched by aliens.. Did we evolve on land sea or on rocks moss trees a pond a river ?.. Or did we evolve on this planet and the stuff made from this planet is the same as the next planet.. I.E did aliens take a bag of soil from their planet and drop it off on this planet seeding our world.. Also is another world the same as our world if in the same galaxy .. Big bang so made of the same stuff?.. Then is aliens walking around us and we don't know .. Then is all what we know not real and we live in the matrix.. Or are we a computer program .. Did we die many many light years ago and this is all a program.. Floating in empty space a little chip with all of life programmed into the chip .. These are all valid possibilities to the origin of life, the first is similar to the panspermia theory, where life is carried from planet to planet by asteroids, or possibly other life. The second is the simulated universe hypothesis, whereby we are actually being simulated on a hyper-advanced computer.
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