Evolution is a hoax

[bluefirecorp_]

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

The entire world believes in evolution, save for the one soul that somehow knows better than everyone...

BD, pull your head out of the sand and experience reality.

You are so funny. That we know of, the world isn't sentient. It doesn't believe or not believe anything.

Put on the coffee so you can wake up and smell it.

 

What you don't understand is that although mutations have causes it doesn't mean the causes are there on purpose to create what they created. There is nothing that suggests the cause of a mutation was set in place by a god, it's just a cause that was caused by another cause and so on.

What you don't seem to understand is that mutations cause by lab work are not in the same category as those caused in nature, and neither of them are in the same category of those caused by evolution theory methods. In other words, until we actually find a natural beneficial mutation that is not a simple change programmed into nature, evolution belongs to the realm of science fiction, or hoax, depending on who the perpetrator of it is.

So lab environments are excluded from nature now? Cool, I'll just walk into a lab and expect gravity to stop functioning, because ya know, it's only a theory.

[BADecker]

I don't have to believe.

Again, pull your head out of the sand and look around to see what other people are doing. 

The more you blab the things that you think you know, without being able to express why they are the way you express, the deeper into the sand you go, head first.

[bluefirecorp_]

I don't have to believe.

Again, pull your head out of the sand and look around to see what other people are doing. 

The more you blab the things that you think you know, without being able to express why they are the way you express, the deeper into the sand you go, head first.

You're projecting again. Have you ever been in school before? I'm assuming you've dropped out at the age of 10 before learning basics of science. Judging by everything you've posted, that seems to be the case.

[BADecker]

How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?

How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted?

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

There is more to evolution than mutation. A small percentage of mutations are beneficial, and selection can cause the beneficial mutations to persist and the harmful mutations to die off. The combination of mutation and selection can create new useful adaptations.

Sometimes things do get built by accident. Many discoveries started out as accidents that people recognized uses for. Many other designs (accidental or not) have been selected against, that is, discarded. Design itself is an evolutionary process.

Experiments and genetic analysis show that mutations (plus selection) do account for new adaptations

There you go, trying to distract. Things that get built by accident, haven't really been built by accident. Oh, it might have looked like they were. But there was C&E moving in it all to make it not an accident.

Mutations are not spontaneous. They were programmed to happen by C&E. No evolution in the way that standard evolution theory says. Are you trying to re-define evolution?

You're confusing cause and effect with predeterminism... this entire goddamned thread. Go get some mental help.

You might be. But if you think you are not, can you explain why C&E wouldn't fit evolution?

[bluefirecorp_]

How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?

How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted?

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

There is more to evolution than mutation. A small percentage of mutations are beneficial, and selection can cause the beneficial mutations to persist and the harmful mutations to die off. The combination of mutation and selection can create new useful adaptations.

Sometimes things do get built by accident. Many discoveries started out as accidents that people recognized uses for. Many other designs (accidental or not) have been selected against, that is, discarded. Design itself is an evolutionary process.

Experiments and genetic analysis show that mutations (plus selection) do account for new adaptations

There you go, trying to distract. Things that get built by accident, haven't really been built by accident. Oh, it might have looked like they were. But there was C&E moving in it all to make it not an accident.

Mutations are not spontaneous. They were programmed to happen by C&E. No evolution in the way that standard evolution theory says. Are you trying to re-define evolution?

You're confusing cause and effect with predeterminism... this entire goddamned thread. Go get some mental help.

You might be. But if you think you are not, can you explain why C&E wouldn't fit evolution?

Can you explain why 8 doesn't fit onomatopoeia? See how retarded you sound?

[BADecker]

How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?

How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted?

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

There is more to evolution than mutation. A small percentage of mutations are beneficial, and selection can cause the beneficial mutations to persist and the harmful mutations to die off. The combination of mutation and selection can create new useful adaptations.

Sometimes things do get built by accident. Many discoveries started out as accidents that people recognized uses for. Many other designs (accidental or not) have been selected against, that is, discarded. Design itself is an evolutionary process.

Experiments and genetic analysis show that mutations (plus selection) do account for new adaptations

There you go, trying to distract. Things that get built by accident, haven't really been built by accident. Oh, it might have looked like they were. But there was C&E moving in it all to make it not an accident.

Mutations are not spontaneous. They were programmed to happen by C&E. No evolution in the way that standard evolution theory says. Are you trying to re-define evolution?

True they had a cause, not a programmed cause, just a cause. Why are you saying programmed cause? They were not programmed they just have causes that we can't really predict because we don't have all the variables but not matter what the exact causes were it still true that the organism adapted to them and evolved. You are not disproving evolution.

Simply because the mutation causes are the effects of other causes, all the way back to the Beginning. Programming.

[BADecker]

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

The entire world believes in evolution, save for the one soul that somehow knows better than everyone...

BD, pull your head out of the sand and experience reality.

You are so funny. That we know of, the world isn't sentient. It doesn't believe or not believe anything.

Put on the coffee so you can wake up and smell it.

 

What you don't understand is that although mutations have causes it doesn't mean the causes are there on purpose to create what they created. There is nothing that suggests the cause of a mutation was set in place by a god, it's just a cause that was caused by another cause and so on.

What you don't seem to understand is that mutations cause by lab work are not in the same category as those caused in nature, and neither of them are in the same category of those caused by evolution theory methods. In other words, until we actually find a natural beneficial mutation that is not a simple change programmed into nature, evolution belongs to the realm of science fiction, or hoax, depending on who the perpetrator of it is.

So lab environments are excluded from nature now? Cool, I'll just walk into a lab and expect gravity to stop functioning, because ya know, it's only a theory.

You go right ahead and do that. And if you ever understand what is being expressed in this topic, you can come back out into reality.

[Vod]

Actually, I won any argument we might have been having? Why? Because I accept that you have free will to continue to be incorrect, and to remain unenlightened.

You can only control yourself.  You can't change the fact I won the argument.

You vs. the entire world.  Romantic but eventually you will bow to peer pressure and give up your fairy tale. 

[BADecker]

I don't have to believe.

Again, pull your head out of the sand and look around to see what other people are doing. 

The more you blab the things that you think you know, without being able to express why they are the way you express, the deeper into the sand you go, head first.

You're projecting again. Have you ever been in school before? I'm assuming you've dropped out at the age of 10 before learning basics of science. Judging by everything you've posted, that seems to be the case.

The difference between you and me is:
1. I project (by posting) that evolution is wrong, and why;
2. You project (by posting) that evolution is right, and in place of why, all you do is badmouth those who can give a reason why evolution is wrong.

[Vod]

You go right ahead and do that. And if you ever understand what is being expressed in this topic, you can come back out into reality.

You are now asking other people to stick their hands in the sand with you?  Not going to work - we have the internet you know.   

[Astargath]

How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?

How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted?

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

There is more to evolution than mutation. A small percentage of mutations are beneficial, and selection can cause the beneficial mutations to persist and the harmful mutations to die off. The combination of mutation and selection can create new useful adaptations.

Sometimes things do get built by accident. Many discoveries started out as accidents that people recognized uses for. Many other designs (accidental or not) have been selected against, that is, discarded. Design itself is an evolutionary process.

Experiments and genetic analysis show that mutations (plus selection) do account for new adaptations

There you go, trying to distract. Things that get built by accident, haven't really been built by accident. Oh, it might have looked like they were. But there was C&E moving in it all to make it not an accident.

Mutations are not spontaneous. They were programmed to happen by C&E. No evolution in the way that standard evolution theory says. Are you trying to re-define evolution?

True they had a cause, not a programmed cause, just a cause. Why are you saying programmed cause? They were not programmed they just have causes that we can't really predict because we don't have all the variables but not matter what the exact causes were it still true that the organism adapted to them and evolved. You are not disproving evolution.

Simply because the mutation causes are the effects of other causes, all the way back to the Beginning. Programming.

Yes all the way back to the beginning but not programming. Where do you get the programming part from?

[BADecker]

How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?

How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted?

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

There is more to evolution than mutation. A small percentage of mutations are beneficial, and selection can cause the beneficial mutations to persist and the harmful mutations to die off. The combination of mutation and selection can create new useful adaptations.

Sometimes things do get built by accident. Many discoveries started out as accidents that people recognized uses for. Many other designs (accidental or not) have been selected against, that is, discarded. Design itself is an evolutionary process.

Experiments and genetic analysis show that mutations (plus selection) do account for new adaptations

There you go, trying to distract. Things that get built by accident, haven't really been built by accident. Oh, it might have looked like they were. But there was C&E moving in it all to make it not an accident.

Mutations are not spontaneous. They were programmed to happen by C&E. No evolution in the way that standard evolution theory says. Are you trying to re-define evolution?

You're confusing cause and effect with predeterminism... this entire goddamned thread. Go get some mental help.

You might be. But if you think you are not, can you explain why C&E wouldn't fit evolution?

Can you explain why 8 doesn't fit onomatopoeia? See how retarded you sound?

Nope! I can't presently "explain why 8 doesn't fit onomatopoeia?" But can you explain how C&E fit together with evolution, and yet present the spontaneity (randomness) required for there to be random mutations it it?

[bluefirecorp_]

I don't have to believe.

Again, pull your head out of the sand and look around to see what other people are doing. 

The more you blab the things that you think you know, without being able to express why they are the way you express, the deeper into the sand you go, head first.

You're projecting again. Have you ever been in school before? I'm assuming you've dropped out at the age of 10 before learning basics of science. Judging by everything you've posted, that seems to be the case.

The difference between you and me is:
1. I project (by posting) that evolution is wrong, and why;
2. You project (by posting) that evolution is right, and in place of why, all you do is badmouth those who can give a reason why evolution is wrong.

WHOOSHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Right over your buried head.

Alright, so you know how you're ignoring evidence, refusing to do peer-reviewed studies, making up random bullshit? Right. See how you tell me I'm putting my head in the sand? Right.

So, take a step back at me vs you.

I'm willing to accept any evidence that you can provide that your God exists. Go ahead, prove your god exists. You can't, not without using some sort of twisted backwards ass logic that a 3rd grader can refute.

You're not willing to accept any evidence, ignoring any and all proof that doesn't exist. You say I've put my head in the sand and refuse to view evidence that you've yet to provide.

Do you see why I'm saying you're projecting when you say we are putting our heads in the sand. While in reality, you're ignoring everything everyone tells you (unless it supports your misguided arguments), and try to flip back their same arguments at them. e.g. head in the sand.

How much are you paid to spread this bullshit or are you doing it for free?

[BADecker]

Actually, I won any argument we might have been having? Why? Because I accept that you have free will to continue to be incorrect, and to remain unenlightened.

You can only control yourself.  You can't change the fact I won the argument.

You vs. the entire world.  Romantic but eventually you will bow to peer pressure and give up your fairy tale. 

Oh, you and your trolling propaganda. Do they pay you enough to sit there and blab without presenting any evidence? Are they afraid that when people find out that evolution is false, that their little world will come crashing down on them?

[bluefirecorp_]

Actually, I won any argument we might have been having? Why? Because I accept that you have free will to continue to be incorrect, and to remain unenlightened.

You can only control yourself.  You can't change the fact I won the argument.

You vs. the entire world.  Romantic but eventually you will bow to peer pressure and give up your fairy tale. 

Oh, you and your trolling propaganda. Do they pay you enough to sit there and blab without presenting any evidence? Are they afraid that when people find out that evolution is false, that their little world will come crashing down on them?

Holy shit, did you read my post and decide to use that as your argument? Literally projection 101. Right fucking there. Jesus fuck. Take a look at this.

[BADecker]

You go right ahead and do that. And if you ever understand what is being expressed in this topic, you can come back out into reality.

You are now asking other people to stick their hands in the sand with you?  Not going to work - we have the internet you know.   

Are you up to your ankles in the sand yet? Only hips? Only chest? Only shoulders? Completely buried?

 

[BADecker]

How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?

How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted?

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

There is more to evolution than mutation. A small percentage of mutations are beneficial, and selection can cause the beneficial mutations to persist and the harmful mutations to die off. The combination of mutation and selection can create new useful adaptations.

Sometimes things do get built by accident. Many discoveries started out as accidents that people recognized uses for. Many other designs (accidental or not) have been selected against, that is, discarded. Design itself is an evolutionary process.

Experiments and genetic analysis show that mutations (plus selection) do account for new adaptations

There you go, trying to distract. Things that get built by accident, haven't really been built by accident. Oh, it might have looked like they were. But there was C&E moving in it all to make it not an accident.

Mutations are not spontaneous. They were programmed to happen by C&E. No evolution in the way that standard evolution theory says. Are you trying to re-define evolution?

True they had a cause, not a programmed cause, just a cause. Why are you saying programmed cause? They were not programmed they just have causes that we can't really predict because we don't have all the variables but not matter what the exact causes were it still true that the organism adapted to them and evolved. You are not disproving evolution.

Simply because the mutation causes are the effects of other causes, all the way back to the Beginning. Programming.

Yes all the way back to the beginning but not programming. Where do you get the programming part from?

The simple example is computer software. You write a line of script, and it causes some other line of script to act. Or maybe it causes the computer to react.

We have not found a time or place where we know that the universe acts outside of its physics, its programming laws. Complex programming, but programming just the same.

[BADecker]

I don't have to believe.

Again, pull your head out of the sand and look around to see what other people are doing. 

The more you blab the things that you think you know, without being able to express why they are the way you express, the deeper into the sand you go, head first.

You're projecting again. Have you ever been in school before? I'm assuming you've dropped out at the age of 10 before learning basics of science. Judging by everything you've posted, that seems to be the case.

The difference between you and me is:
1. I project (by posting) that evolution is wrong, and why;
2. You project (by posting) that evolution is right, and in place of why, all you do is badmouth those who can give a reason why evolution is wrong.

WHOOSHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Right over your buried head.

Alright, so you know how you're ignoring evidence, refusing to do peer-reviewed studies, making up random bullshit? Right. See how you tell me I'm putting my head in the sand? Right.

So, take a step back at me vs you.

I'm willing to accept any evidence that you can provide that your God exists. Go ahead, prove your god exists. You can't, not without using some sort of twisted backwards ass logic that a 3rd grader can refute.

You're not willing to accept any evidence, ignoring any and all proof that doesn't exist. You say I've put my head in the sand and refuse to view evidence that you've yet to provide.

Do you see why I'm saying you're projecting when you say we are putting our heads in the sand. While in reality, you're ignoring everything everyone tells you (unless it supports your misguided arguments), and try to flip back their same arguments at them. e.g. head in the sand.

How much are you paid to spread this bullshit or are you doing it for free?

I suppose I could have been more thorough in my reading of your post. But I still didn't find anything that says why cause and effect wouldn't affect mutations, especially since nothing has been discovered for-a-fact wherein C&E doesn't operate.

All I see is an attempted belittling of my abilities and understanding. That's what trolls do... belittling without explanation.

[bluefirecorp_]

I don't have to believe.

Again, pull your head out of the sand and look around to see what other people are doing.  

The more you blab the things that you think you know, without being able to express why they are the way you express, the deeper into the sand you go, head first.

You're projecting again. Have you ever been in school before? I'm assuming you've dropped out at the age of 10 before learning basics of science. Judging by everything you've posted, that seems to be the case.

The difference between you and me is:
1. I project (by posting) that evolution is wrong, and why;
2. You project (by posting) that evolution is right, and in place of why, all you do is badmouth those who can give a reason why evolution is wrong.

WHOOSHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Right over your buried head.

Alright, so you know how you're ignoring evidence, refusing to do peer-reviewed studies, making up random bullshit? Right. See how you tell me I'm putting my head in the sand? Right.

So, take a step back at me vs you.

I'm willing to accept any evidence that you can provide that your God exists. Go ahead, prove your god exists. You can't, not without using some sort of twisted backwards ass logic that a 3rd grader can refute.

You're not willing to accept any evidence, ignoring any and all proof that doesn't exist. You say I've put my head in the sand and refuse to view evidence that you've yet to provide.

Do you see why I'm saying you're projecting when you say we are putting our heads in the sand. While in reality, you're ignoring everything everyone tells you (unless it supports your misguided arguments), and try to flip back their same arguments at them. e.g. head in the sand.

How much are you paid to spread this bullshit or are you doing it for free?

I suppose I could have been more thorough in my reading of your post. But I still didn't find anything that says why cause and effect wouldn't affect mutations, especially since nothing has been discovered for-a-fact wherein C&E doesn't operate.

All I see is an attempted belittling of my abilities and understanding. That's what trolls do... belittling without explanation.

You're too retarded to see the explanation right in front of your eyes. You still don't get it, do you?

[BADecker]

Actually, I won any argument we might have been having? Why? Because I accept that you have free will to continue to be incorrect, and to remain unenlightened.

You can only control yourself.  You can't change the fact I won the argument.

You vs. the entire world.  Romantic but eventually you will bow to peer pressure and give up your fairy tale. 

Oh, you and your trolling propaganda. Do they pay you enough to sit there and blab without presenting any evidence? Are they afraid that when people find out that evolution is false, that their little world will come crashing down on them?

Holy shit, did you read my post and decide to use that as your argument? Literally projection 101. Right fucking there. Jesus fuck. Take a look at this.

For a moment there I thought you didn't believe in God. But then you used Jesus's name in your post.