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February 10, 2014, 10:05:30 AM
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Same here, Refund received. Thank you.

Hope the next GB goes better
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February 10, 2014, 11:31:41 AM
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Glad this has finally come to an end. Appreciate the end result SB
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February 10, 2014, 12:53:39 PM
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We are still extremely busy working on getting the next units ready for launch, and hope to have more information soon.

So nice to hear you are developing new units with those leftover components, while sticking your captive "investors" for a 60% loss.

It'll be a cold day in hell before I send you another satoshi.

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February 10, 2014, 02:22:04 PM
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lol @xjack. Price of the units were in USD, not BTC as the chips were. Payment method was in BTC. Not sure how you can have a loss when the refund in USD was locked at the original BTC exchange rate of ~$120 instead of ~$800+

Its analogous as if you bought something online with Euro on a USD website , and when the Euro crashes you ask for refund, which is only worth a small % of what Euro would have been at that time (In other words if you paid 50 Euro for a $75 item and Euro crashed and you only got 25 Euro back which is now worth $75 USD. As long as the USD value stayed the same there is nothing the operator of the site can do  ). I really hope people can understand these basics for themselves.


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February 10, 2014, 04:30:58 PM
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Got my refund! Thanks steamboat.
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February 10, 2014, 04:35:35 PM
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Got my refund! Thanks steamboat.
Me too. Finally. Thanks.

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February 11, 2014, 12:03:53 AM
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lol @xjack. Price of the units were in USD, not BTC as the chips were. Payment method was in BTC. Not sure how you can have a loss when the refund in USD was locked at the original BTC exchange rate of ~$120 instead of ~$800+

Its analogous as if you bought something online with Euro on a USD website , and when the Euro crashes you ask for refund, which is only worth a small % of what Euro would have been at that time (In other words if you paid 50 Euro for a $75 item and Euro crashed and you only got 25 Euro back which is now worth $75 USD. As long as the USD value stayed the same there is nothing the operator of the site can do  ). I really hope people can understand these basics for themselves.


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LOL all you want, hit the ignore if you like.  Your analogy isn't a linear comparison.  There is no exchange rate change discussion to be had here.  You said it yourself - steamboat fixed the refunds at the original sales rate of $120. 

Each unit was about $130.  Or loosely interpreted - 1BTC.  Each unit was refunded approximately .31BTC.  Based on the same $120 exchange price you quoted = $37.20.

Bitcoin being $800(700) softens the blow in fiat.  It doesn't change the fact that you still technically took a loss despite the fixed exchange rate.  Also, your refund is months late with NO communication.

Finally, steamboat is close to announcing/releasing the next model, which absolutely contains some of the same components you just got refunded for.


Knock yourself out, I'm not getting back in the pool where that shark is swimming.





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February 11, 2014, 02:06:02 AM
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and he still wont answer any emails regarding hosting.  I think maybe he used the hosted miners to generated the BTC that he is now refunding us with.  Still a scam in my eyes until he answers questions about the hosted miners.
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February 11, 2014, 04:11:58 AM
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and he still wont answer any emails regarding hosting.  I think maybe he used the hosted miners to generated the BTC that he is now refunding us with.  Still a scam in my eyes until he answers questions about the hosted miners.

Same here Sad

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February 11, 2014, 05:06:37 AM
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*sigh*
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February 11, 2014, 10:53:37 AM
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Steamboat can you please check order # 100000074‏ - I accepted the refund with a changed receiving address. Nothing received yet.

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February 11, 2014, 10:37:34 PM
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lol @xjack. Price of the units were in USD, not BTC as the chips were. Payment method was in BTC. Not sure how you can have a loss when the refund in USD was locked at the original BTC exchange rate of ~$120 instead of ~$800+

Its analogous as if you bought something online with Euro on a USD website , and when the Euro crashes you ask for refund, which is only worth a small % of what Euro would have been at that time (In other words if you paid 50 Euro for a $75 item and Euro crashed and you only got 25 Euro back which is now worth $75 USD. As long as the USD value stayed the same there is nothing the operator of the site can do  ). I really hope people can understand these basics for themselves.


Kosta

LOL all you want, hit the ignore if you like.  Your analogy isn't a linear comparison.  There is no exchange rate change discussion to be had here.  You said it yourself - steamboat fixed the refunds at the original sales rate of $120. 

Each unit was about $130.  Or loosely interpreted - 1BTC.  Each unit was refunded approximately .31BTC.  Based on the same $120 exchange price you quoted = $37.20.

Bitcoin being $800(700) softens the blow in fiat.  It doesn't change the fact that you still technically took a loss despite the fixed exchange rate.  Also, your refund is months late with NO communication.

Finally, steamboat is close to announcing/releasing the next model, which absolutely contains some of the same components you just got refunded for.


Knock yourself out, I'm not getting back in the pool where that shark is swimming.

It's your right to be pissed off (I'm bloody pissed off at the loss), but this GB has been less of a clusterfuck than, say, Terrahash.

"Same player, try again" is better than "game over."

Take solace where you find it.
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February 12, 2014, 07:54:39 PM
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It's your right to be pissed off (I'm bloody pissed off at the loss), but this GB has been less of a clusterfuck than, say, Terrahash.

"Same player, try again" is better than "game over."

Take solace where you find it.

Agreed. 

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February 13, 2014, 06:25:19 AM
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Hi Steam, any update on refund for those who opted for hosting services? any news on chips refund?

thank you.
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February 13, 2014, 06:42:23 AM
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Hello - I am unsure what to do - I purchased a K16 board off of Ebay today and I can not get it to work for the life of me. I keep getting the same errors.

I got it and a new Power supply unit today in the mail - Hooked up the fan on top of the K16 to the PSU, not the Board (PSU has a 4 pin molex that I used) - hooked up the board to the 6 pin PCI express, green light turns on - it powers up. I hooked the micro usb cord from the miner to my computer - my computer recognizes it and tries to download a driver for "k16". Of course, it fails because there isn't one. I downloaded "Zadig" from sourceforge  Version -"zadig_v2.0.1.160.7z" to be exact, Opened it up and selected "K16" in the list of USB Devices, I then loaded the driver "WinUSB" to the "K16". I downloaded CGMiner 3.8.3 just to be safe since as its the exact same copy recommended in the "How To" Instructions for the Klondike miners. (I've tried multiple different  Cgminer versions now with same results) I created a Start.bat file trying multiple different command lines and all of them giving me around the same results and error messages. Heres the few I tried:

cgminer -o http://pool.50btc.com:3333 -u username -p pass
cgminer.exe -o http://pool.50btc.com:3333 -u username -p pass
cgminer -o stratum+tcp://pool.50btc.com:3333 -u username -p pass
cgminer.exe -o stratum+tcp://pool.50btc.com:3333 -u username -p pass
cgminer -o http://mpos.cke.anomalypool.com:3154 -u username -p pass
cgminer.exe -o http://mpos.cke.anomalypool.com:3154 -u username -p pass
cgminer -o stratum+tc[://mpos.cke.anomalypool.com:3154 -u username -p pass
cgminer.exe -o stratum+tcp://mpos.cke.anomalypool.com:3154 -u username -p pass

I notice it says "If you compile your own version of Cgminer for windows, make sure to use the option "-enable-klondike" but I am unsure where to add this. I also tried adding this to one of the bat files like so - with no positive results.

cgminer -o http:mpos.cke.anomalypool.com:3154 -u username -p pass -enable-klondike

I believe it was the cookie pool with the "HTTP" heading that gave me accepts - and also showed it was mining at 5.8 GH/S on the pool, But I didn't get any payouts so obviously something is still not right. I am pretty sure this is User error (yes I'm a noob I'm sorry lol) and not a fried miner (or I'm hoping at least).

Heres a few images of the miner throwing errors at me - ALSO - When these errors are thrown, there is a red flashing LED on the miner. It flashs 2 times in a row then stops for a second then flashes 2 times again.

-Heres the one where I'm actually getting accepts along with the same error message - Pool is "Mpos.cke.anomalypool.com:3154"
https://i.imgur.com/JPxkdgA.png

-Heres more error messages without accepts on the same pool as above
https://i.imgur.com/lnW6MWT.png

-Heres another attempt right before it goes crazy with error messages - Pool is 50btc.com
https://i.imgur.com/A7C6DZ9.png

I am really hoping someone can shed some light on this for me - I would really appreciate it. Thank you so much to anyone that is willing to help me out. When I mine some coin - I will tip you. Take care! Look forward to hearing back from someone.
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February 13, 2014, 12:26:49 PM
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That's more a question for the Klondike thread. Most ppl here DON'T have a K16 (hence the fuss Wink ).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.new#new
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February 13, 2014, 12:30:43 PM
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try changing the cable or the usb port, and make sure is connected directly to a computer, not a hub.
if it doesnt work, try another pc... and if it doesnt go, try linux it doesnt need a driver, if its a driver issue youll see in linux if not its hardware related.

try here more trouble shooting and guide to linux install

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February 14, 2014, 01:45:15 AM
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Refund received, thanks steamboat!


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February 14, 2014, 01:55:10 AM
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Hi steamboat, now that btc is going going down, any chance you'd be refunding us (ie. those who opted for their chips to be assembled and hosted)? thank you.
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February 14, 2014, 03:32:51 PM
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Steamboat can you please check order # 100000074‏ - I accepted the refund with a changed receiving address. Nothing received yet.

Same situation for me on order # 100000072 - obviously Steamboat only completed those refunds (so far) that didn't require any corrections to the refund e-mail details.  Waiting ...

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