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[bearsworth]

Terrahash,

Was there a release of the DX mini pictures? You guys mentioned you had them a while back but no release of what they look like.

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[krayzie32]

For who?  TH?  I'm other side of the US from them.  Why shouldn't we defend them? People have been there and verified they exist and seen the parts.  They have posted a video of a board hashing.  I mean what more do you want?

Support questions answered.

What kind of support do you need?  You don't even have a product yet. 

[krayzie32]

Its my understanding that the k64 will only have or need 1 pci-e and will also be connected with the I2c already in place (to the other 3) I am "assuming" the k64 will be just like the k16 and each board will have its own pci-e connector inplace, in case someone wants to seperate them. The one pci-e will draw 128 watts for all 4 boards. As far as the k16, Ofcourse 1 pci-e and they are supposedly coming shipped with an I2c cable per unit. They will draw 32 watts each. I like you would like a 2nd and 3rd conformation on this however!

EDIT: Especially if the k16 will have 4 pci-e connectors or just one. Because if seprated, then the only way to chain would be with the I2c cables..... which as 3 would not have pci-e connectors,,,which doesnt make sense,,,but that may be why they have a k64 to save money..? (eliminate 3 pci-e connectors) good question on that one there...since we have no picture or spec on a k64 so far..

Since the boards only have a I2c cable between them, it's my understanding that you will need 4 pcie power cables going to one K64 board.

If you go to bkk's site and get the data sheet it's really is just 4 boards right by each other.  I would love to see the board printed and a picture of it since you never see one and nobody ever talks about them.  Since it's 2 weeks from when they were hoping to ship you would assume they would have some K64 boards printed.

[maxpower]

For who?  TH?  I'm other side of the US from them.  Why shouldn't we defend them? People have been there and verified they exist and seen the parts.  They have posted a video of a board hashing.  I mean what more do you want?

Support questions answered.

What kind of support do you need?  You don't even have a product yet. 

Changes of address?

[MinermanNC]

Its my understanding that the k64 will only have or need 1 pci-e and will also be connected with the I2c already in place (to the other 3) I am "assuming" the k64 will be just like the k16 and each board will have its own pci-e connector inplace, in case someone wants to seperate them. The one pci-e will draw 128 watts for all 4 boards. As far as the k16, Ofcourse 1 pci-e and they are supposedly coming shipped with an I2c cable per unit. They will draw 32 watts each. I like you would like a 2nd and 3rd conformation on this however!

EDIT: Especially if the k16 will have 4 pci-e connectors or just one. Because if seprated, then the only way to chain would be with the I2c cables..... which as 3 would not have pci-e connectors,,,which doesnt make sense,,,but that may be why they have a k64 to save money..? (eliminate 3 pci-e connectors) good question on that one there...since we have no picture or spec on a k64 so far..

Since the boards only have a I2c cable between them, it's my understanding that you will need 4 pcie power cables going to one K64 board.

If you go to bkk's site and get the data sheet it's really is just 4 boards right by each other.  I would love to see the board printed and a picture of it since you never see one and nobody ever talks about them.  Since it's 2 weeks from when they were hoping to ship you would assume they would have some K64 boards printed.

hmmm,,,,I was thinking 1 pci-e would power all 4 boards on the k64 and draw 128 watts etc. So if what your saying is so,,,and very well may be! ...then we would need 4 pci-e connectors for 1 board...ewe,,,thats not what i had planned for,,seems they would jump/chain the power off of 1 pci-e for all 4 boards? makes ya wonder why even have a k64 board otherwise? guess we need some more clarification on it,,

[xyzzy099]

Its my understanding that the k64 will only have or need 1 pci-e and will also be connected with the I2c already in place (to the other 3) I am "assuming" the k64 will be just like the k16 and each board will have its own pci-e connector inplace, in case someone wants to seperate them. The one pci-e will draw 128 watts for all 4 boards. As far as the k16, Ofcourse 1 pci-e and they are supposedly coming shipped with an I2c cable per unit. They will draw 32 watts each. I like you would like a 2nd and 3rd conformation on this however!

EDIT: Especially if the k16 will have 4 pci-e connectors or just one. Because if seprated, then the only way to chain would be with the I2c cables..... which as 3 would not have pci-e connectors,,,which doesnt make sense,,,but that may be why they have a k64 to save money..? (eliminate 3 pci-e connectors) good question on that one there...since we have no picture or spec on a k64 so far..

Since the boards only have a I2c cable between them, it's my understanding that you will need 4 pcie power cables going to one K64 board.

If you go to bkk's site and get the data sheet it's really is just 4 boards right by each other.  I would love to see the board printed and a picture of it since you never see one and nobody ever talks about them.  Since it's 2 weeks from when they were hoping to ship you would assume they would have some K64 boards printed.

hmmm,,,,I was thinking 1 pci-e would power all 4 boards on the k64 and draw 128 watts etc. So if what your saying is so,,,and very well may be! ...then we would need 4 pci-e connectors for 1 board...ewe,,,thats not what i had planned for,,seems they would jump/chain the power off of 1 pci-e for all 4 boards? makes ya wonder why even have a k64 board otherwise? guess we need some more clarification on it,,

You could still use 1 PCI-E power connector from your PS per board - but your would need 3x [6-pin to 2x 6-pin] splitters per board.

[Smooth0ne]

Its my understanding that the k64 will only have or need 1 pci-e and will also be connected with the I2c already in place (to the other 3) I am "assuming" the k64 will be just like the k16 and each board will have its own pci-e connector inplace, in case someone wants to seperate them. The one pci-e will draw 128 watts for all 4 boards. As far as the k16, Ofcourse 1 pci-e and they are supposedly coming shipped with an I2c cable per unit. They will draw 32 watts each. I like you would like a 2nd and 3rd conformation on this however!

EDIT: Especially if the k16 will have 4 pci-e connectors or just one. Because if seprated, then the only way to chain would be with the I2c cables..... which as 3 would not have pci-e connectors,,,which doesnt make sense,,,but that may be why they have a k64 to save money..? (eliminate 3 pci-e connectors) good question on that one there...since we have no picture or spec on a k64 so far..

Since the boards only have a I2c cable between them, it's my understanding that you will need 4 pcie power cables going to one K64 board.

If you go to bkk's site and get the data sheet it's really is just 4 boards right by each other.  I would love to see the board printed and a picture of it since you never see one and nobody ever talks about them.  Since it's 2 weeks from when they were hoping to ship you would assume they would have some K64 boards printed.

hmmm,,,,I was thinking 1 pci-e would power all 4 boards on the k64 and draw 128 watts etc. So if what your saying is so,,,and very well may be! ...then we would need 4 pci-e connectors for 1 board...ewe,,,thats not what i had planned for,,seems they would jump/chain the power off of 1 pci-e for all 4 boards? makes ya wonder why even have a k64 board otherwise? guess we need some more clarification on it,,

Yea. Thats why I asked. Doesn't make sense to me if they don't just all run off of 1 PCIE , otherwise just make K16's only, why bother with another design?

[krayzie32]

Yea. Thats why I asked. Doesn't make sense to me if they don't just all run off of 1 PCIE , otherwise just make K16's only, why bother with another design?

I agree and someone mentioned somewhere that the K64 should have printed traces between all 4 boards so 1 can power them all.

Maybe because not all PSU's will have enough power on one rail?  I would love printed traces but for me it will be molax to pcie adapters

[xyzzy099]

Yea. Thats why I asked. Doesn't make sense to me if they don't just all run off of 1 PCIE , otherwise just make K16's only, why bother with another design?

I agree and someone mentioned somewhere that the K64 should have printed traces between all 4 boards so 1 can power them all.

Maybe because not all PSU's will have enough power on one rail?  I would love printed traces but for me it will be molax to pcie adapters

There are holes in the PCB right in front of the power connector that could accommodate board-to-board wiring of the power.  Maybe that is the intent.
 

[krayzie32]

Yea. Thats why I asked. Doesn't make sense to me if they don't just all run off of 1 PCIE , otherwise just make K16's only, why bother with another design?

I agree and someone mentioned somewhere that the K64 should have printed traces between all 4 boards so 1 can power them all.

Maybe because not all PSU's will have enough power on one rail?  I would love printed traces but for me it will be molax to pcie adapters

There are holes in the PCB right in front of the power connector that could accommodate board-to-board wiring of the power.  Maybe that is the intent.
 

I remember BKK talking about using a right angled pcie power plug instead of the verticle one and I bet that is why those holes are there.

[xyzzy099]

Yea. Thats why I asked. Doesn't make sense to me if they don't just all run off of 1 PCIE , otherwise just make K16's only, why bother with another design?

I agree and someone mentioned somewhere that the K64 should have printed traces between all 4 boards so 1 can power them all.

Maybe because not all PSU's will have enough power on one rail?  I would love printed traces but for me it will be molax to pcie adapters

There are holes in the PCB right in front of the power connector that could accommodate board-to-board wiring of the power.  Maybe that is the intent.
 

I remember BKK talking about using a right angled pcie power plug instead of the verticle one and I bet that is why those holes are there.

Yeah, looking at the schematic and parts list, it looks like the SMT pads are for the RA version, and the through-hole part is the vertical connector.

[atomicchaos]

What kind of support do you need?  You don't even have a product yet.  

You obviously don't care about the answer, but to help you out since you must bypass the messages that have been posted already:

- Changing "refund" status in account that is incorrectly listed.
- Changing Addresses
- Answering general questions on ownership transfer (yes or no on it being blessed by them would be nice)
- Helping those with Bank Transfers that show as paid, but aren't reflected on their account page

The list goes on I'm sure, as it's clear that Terrahash doesn't answer their support tickets. Why implement it, if you aren't going to respond to tickets? Outside of the people that have stated they had problems and are not getting a response, one would tend to go a bit further and believe that once we get their product, issues with the product will not be resolved in a timely manner. You guys keep stating that they are simply waiting for the Avalon chips (Which I don't believe that's all they are doing, I'm sure they are busy with other preparation), but if this is the case, wouldn't it be a great time to answer the support tickets?

Again, it was very funny to me that Terrahash didn't like the lack of info on the Avalons, when their support system is setup and apparently goes directly into their trash folder.

I have no other complaint with them outside of this, and it is a big concern because it will most likely be no different after the products ship. Sheep should not just follow the flock without question.

[Vigil]

Are these things going to come with any instructions on how to get them running with CGMiner and such?

[pixl8tr]

Are these things going to come with any instructions on how to get them running with CGMiner and such?

From the website: 

Comes with software for Windows/Mac/Linux (runs with cgminer).

   I assume that means that cgminer included with the kit will already be verified to work with the boards.
Most likely plug and play. 

[MinermanNC]

Anybody in here know who this is? I found this interesting,,,ships september 9th,,,,hmmm? notice the speed based on 350 m/h per chip,,,so how can this be? Surely its not Knightlife? lol,,,you live in the bay area,,,,who ever it is,,,it looks pretty cool,,,,but I would like to see a video of it hashing at 22 g/hash first! before i Bid on it... sounds familiar huh?  

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Avalon-Asic-22GH-s-Klondike-Bitcoin-Miner-Not-Butterfly-Lab-/130960113781?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e7dd4c075

[pixl8tr]

Anybody in here know who this is? I found this interesting,,,ships september 9th,,,,hmmm? notice the speed based on 350 m/h per chip,,,so how can this be? Surely its not Knightlife? lol,,,you live in the bay area,,,,who ever it is,,,it looks pretty cool,,,,but I would like to see a video of it hashing at 22 g/hash first! before i Bid on it... sounds familiar huh?  

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Avalon-Asic-22GH-s-Klondike-Bitcoin-Miner-Not-Butterfly-Lab-/130960113781?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e7dd4c075

I am usually the last person to yell SCAM,  but I would never trust anyone on ebay with ZERO feedback. Especially with big $$$$$ items.  The case appears as if its rendered, the rest just stock product art. So I doubt it even exists yet.

[Vigil]

Are these things going to come with any instructions on how to get them running with CGMiner and such?

From the website: 

Comes with software for Windows/Mac/Linux (runs with cgminer).

   I assume that means that cgminer included with the kit will already be verified to work with the boards.
Most likely plug and play. 

OK, saw that but wasn't sure if I would have to configure cgminer like I did for my GPUs.

I assume there will be firmware upgrades as well from time to time.

[pixl8tr]

At a minimum, I am sure you will have to configure your main pool and failover pool in cgminer.  I don't know if they will include a configuration script or GUI to streamline the process.  If not, there are plenty of Cgminer config guides for setting up pools etcetera.  Usually USB devices don't require much configuration in Cgminer.  Maybe at most a USB driver installation.  Nothing like setting up a GPU and clocking it.  ;-)

[MinermanNC]

At a minimum, I am sure you will have to configure your main pool and failover pool in cgminer.  I don't know if they will include a configuration script or GUI to streamline the process.  If not, there are plenty of Cgminer config guides for setting up pools etcetera.  Usually USB devices don't require much configuration in Cgminer.  Maybe at most a USB driver installation.  Nothing like setting up a GPU and clocking it.  ;-)

Good! cause gpu setups are a Biatch....lol,,,,, and lock up occasionally....lol

[MinermanNC]

Anybody in here know who this is? I found this interesting,,,ships september 9th,,,,hmmm? notice the speed based on 350 m/h per chip,,,so how can this be? Surely its not Knightlife? lol,,,you live in the bay area,,,,who ever it is,,,it looks pretty cool,,,,but I would like to see a video of it hashing at 22 g/hash first! before i Bid on it... sounds familiar huh?  

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Avalon-Asic-22GH-s-Klondike-Bitcoin-Miner-Not-Butterfly-Lab-/130960113781?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e7dd4c075

I am usually the last person to yell SCAM,  but I would never trust anyone on ebay with ZERO feedback. Especially with big $$$$$ items.  The case appears as if its rendered, the rest just stock product art. So I doubt it even exists yet.

Agree,,,but it looks and sounds nice on paper (ebay) lol