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January 11, 2018, 05:18:24 AM
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So, what makes of aftermarket cards are out there ?
I know of Sapphire. Others ?
Also, what memory they're using ?

I myself has switched from Ref 56 to ASUS Strix Vega 56. The one I had comes with Hynix memory, it could push to 950 mem clock, but it's all invalid shares from there on, so I have to downclock the memory to 890 ish, doing about 1750 to 1800 h/s at best.

Thank you for sharing.
What is the tension you can run the hynix memory at ? Can it hold 875 or 900mV ? What is the power needs (higher or lower than the ref) ?

At 56 BIOS (Can't find Hynix 64 BIOS to flash on to try yet), I am able to actually run the mem overclock at 950, it actually won't crash but there is no accepted results, so I find the maximum mem overclock without throwing invalid shares at 890 Mhz.

It's taking 900 mV using overdriveNTool, on hwInfo it's drawing 0.881V just like my previous ref vega56. (Still unsure if this is the core clock power draw or mem clock power draw) This is with registry edit so the undervolt works, compared to ref vega 56, my on the wall power draw has been reduced by about 30 Watt. I imagine the power draw should be the same as ref, the difference is likely due to me running ref vega 56 at 64 BIOS (higher mem/core clock power draw @ 1.35V).

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before: r7 1700 + rx480 8gb + ref vega56 (64 BIOS) -> ~ 400W
now    : r7 1700 + rx480 8gb + strix vega56 -> ~ 370W



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January 11, 2018, 10:01:39 AM
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At 56 BIOS (Can't find Hynix 64 BIOS to flash on to try yet), I am able to actually run the mem overclock at 950, it actually won't crash but there is no accepted results, so I find the maximum mem overclock without throwing invalid shares at 890 Mhz.

It's taking 900 mV using overdriveNTool, on hwInfo it's drawing 0.881V just like my previous ref vega56. (Still unsure if this is the core clock power draw or mem clock power draw) This is with registry edit so the undervolt works, compared to ref vega 56, my on the wall power draw has been reduced by about 30 Watt. I imagine the power draw should be the same as ref, the difference is likely due to me running ref vega 56 at 64 BIOS (higher mem/core clock power draw @ 1.35V).

For reference,
before: r7 1700 + rx480 8gb + ref vega56 (64 BIOS) -> ~ 400W
now    : r7 1700 + rx480 8gb + strix vega56 -> ~ 370W
Thanks again.
So it should be safe to assume that ref and aftermarket are about the same, except for the slower memory. Did you use the same registry tools (and .reg files) that you used in the ref card (I guess they're the same)?
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January 11, 2018, 12:08:16 PM
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Anybody tried any other algos?


Question should be: Anybody tried any other algos and found similar or better results compared to cryptonight?

Cheers Smiley


Same question here. Is there a better site to compare equipment/ hardware to algorithms other than https://whattomine.com/?

Whats wrong with that site? Dont think there is better site avaible either.

And no, there definately aint any better algos than cryptonight sofar. Vega is super good for it, how good it should be lol
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January 11, 2018, 12:09:21 PM
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Anybody tried any other algos?


Question should be: Anybody tried any other algos and found similar or better results compared to cryptonight?

Cheers Smiley


Same question here. Is there a better site to compare equipment/ hardware to algorithms other than https://whattomine.com/?

Whats wrong with that site? Dont think there is better site avaible either.

And no, there definately aint any better algos than cryptonight sofar. Vega is super good for it, how good it should be lol

I already expected that...but thanks for confirming.
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January 12, 2018, 03:57:09 AM
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At 56 BIOS (Can't find Hynix 64 BIOS to flash on to try yet), I am able to actually run the mem overclock at 950, it actually won't crash but there is no accepted results, so I find the maximum mem overclock without throwing invalid shares at 890 Mhz.

It's taking 900 mV using overdriveNTool, on hwInfo it's drawing 0.881V just like my previous ref vega56. (Still unsure if this is the core clock power draw or mem clock power draw) This is with registry edit so the undervolt works, compared to ref vega 56, my on the wall power draw has been reduced by about 30 Watt. I imagine the power draw should be the same as ref, the difference is likely due to me running ref vega 56 at 64 BIOS (higher mem/core clock power draw @ 1.35V).

For reference,
before: r7 1700 + rx480 8gb + ref vega56 (64 BIOS) -> ~ 400W
now    : r7 1700 + rx480 8gb + strix vega56 -> ~ 370W
Thanks again.
So it should be safe to assume that ref and aftermarket are about the same, except for the slower memory. Did you use the same registry tools (and .reg files) that you used in the ref card (I guess they're the same)?

With only 1 card I can never be certain if the memory manufacturer is the fault for overclocking tolerance, or it might be due to how the BIOS is programmed (I really doubt that but if it can be fixed via software it will be awesome), but your assumption is more or less correct. Aftermarket is essentially changes on the heatsink + cooler design, and also possibly some BIOS tweaks from each brand themselves.

The registry file for my ASUS strix doesn't come with softPTTTable, so I merely apply the one I had for previous ref 56 onto it and it will be effective after a disable/enable or full pc reboot. I don't recall if there's any major difference between ref 56 core clock and mem clock out of the box vs Asus Strix, so the registry application is meant for undervolting and power draw reduction (adjusting core clock p2 to p5).
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January 13, 2018, 12:27:05 AM
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Anyone with experience with gigabyte Rx Vega 56 cards?
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January 13, 2018, 03:26:33 AM
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Anyone with experience with gigabyte Rx Vega 56 cards?

gaming or reference?
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January 13, 2018, 04:04:51 AM
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i think we need to wait for their update..
is anyone there visit the link again?
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January 13, 2018, 04:36:04 AM
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Anyone with experience with gigabyte Rx Vega 56 cards?

gaming or reference?

reference.
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January 14, 2018, 01:57:25 PM
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Who is buying these things at 800 dollars? At that rate why not go with a 1080 Ti? The Vegas are only amazing at Cryptonight from what I can tell.  Almost a cryptonight ASIC as a mining card...

 Why wouldn't they? A modified vega gets double what a 1080ti can net you in returns. Even if it's cryptonight/ethereum only there are these things called Exchanges where you can then convert to your coin of choice. Not sure if you've heard of them before.
Not anymore my friend. A 1080Ti, albeit overpriced, will now net you more per day than a Vega. If the Vega was priced at MSRP then there would be no contest. But at $800+, there are better choices out there.
You do realize the only reason for that is the sudden pump zclassic/zcash/zcoin/hush have had in the last couple days right?  Once difficulty adjusts Vega will still be better over all. When monero pumped from 140 to 400 vegas we're making 4X+ what anything else made. Guess what the difficulty caught up with moneros price and we're back at old profitably, same will happen with the 1080tis and we'll be back with vega as #1. Btw I have both reg moded vega rigs mining ETN and 1080ti rigs mining Equihash/Lyra2z. Can't even imagine the crazy profitability we'd get per card if ETN makes a price action,  would be insane.

In short the 1080ti can barely keep up with vega with huge price actions XD still no contest.
since you have both...what about power consumption and temps from the wall? I've built a 6 Vega 56 rig -unmodded, for another person- and they are generating a good amount of money consuming like 135-140W. Great stuff. I am planning on building a rig of 1080Tis , but I wonder what's the power consumption and temps. The temps of the Vegas is in the 42º-44ºC average, and I've recently watched this video of a guy saying he makes 42$ a day with 6 1080Ti cards, however his average temps are 80ºC  Shocked Shocked Shocked and power consumption from the wall is a whooping 1800W  Shocked Shocked Shocked . The Vegas on the rig I built are making 58$, 135-140W each, 44ºC on average, do the math... But I wonder for someone who knows his stuff if that's not the case with 1080Ti cards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woxKtAnmwEY
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January 15, 2018, 10:45:03 PM
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Anyone got a guide on how to get an FE to work with xmr-stak under linux?

It runs the rx 560 fine, but I get an error when I do clinfo.

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January 16, 2018, 01:42:13 AM
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Who is buying these things at 800 dollars? At that rate why not go with a 1080 Ti? The Vegas are only amazing at Cryptonight from what I can tell.  Almost a cryptonight ASIC as a mining card...

 Why wouldn't they? A modified vega gets double what a 1080ti can net you in returns. Even if it's cryptonight/ethereum only there are these things called Exchanges where you can then convert to your coin of choice. Not sure if you've heard of them before.
Not anymore my friend. A 1080Ti, albeit overpriced, will now net you more per day than a Vega. If the Vega was priced at MSRP then there would be no contest. But at $800+, there are better choices out there.
You do realize the only reason for that is the sudden pump zclassic/zcash/zcoin/hush have had in the last couple days right?  Once difficulty adjusts Vega will still be better over all. When monero pumped from 140 to 400 vegas we're making 4X+ what anything else made. Guess what the difficulty caught up with moneros price and we're back at old profitably, same will happen with the 1080tis and we'll be back with vega as #1. Btw I have both reg moded vega rigs mining ETN and 1080ti rigs mining Equihash/Lyra2z. Can't even imagine the crazy profitability we'd get per card if ETN makes a price action,  would be insane.

In short the 1080ti can barely keep up with vega with huge price actions XD still no contest.
since you have both...what about power consumption and temps from the wall? I've built a 6 Vega 56 rig -unmodded, for another person- and they are generating a good amount of money consuming like 135-140W. Great stuff. I am planning on building a rig of 1080Tis , but I wonder what's the power consumption and temps. The temps of the Vegas is in the 42º-44ºC average, and I've recently watched this video of a guy saying he makes 42$ a day with 6 1080Ti cards, however his average temps are 80ºC  Shocked Shocked Shocked and power consumption from the wall is a whooping 1800W  Shocked Shocked Shocked . The Vegas on the rig I built are making 58$, 135-140W each, 44ºC on average, do the math... But I wonder for someone who knows his stuff if that's not the case with 1080Ti cards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woxKtAnmwEY

Not quite sure what you're asking but I can assure you for the most part a Vega rig will net you more than a 1080ti rig. Yea there may be some shady small coin you can gamble on and a make the slightest bit more on the Nvidia cards, but that is a very rare case. Those smaller coins also have such low daily volume that you'll never be able to sell large quatities at a decent price.

The 1080tis are much harder to cool (believe it or not) than my vega 64s. All my 1080tis are after market with dual/ three fans but they heat up like crazy if I use anything past 80% power limit. Power consumption varies a lot since they can mine a much larger amount of algorithms than the AMD cards.

I like crypto
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January 16, 2018, 02:48:07 PM
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does anyone have experience with this V56?
MSI Radeon RX Vega 56 Boost OC
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/Radeon-RX-Vega-56-Air-Boost-8G-OC/Overview

Hashrates and setup would be great
even if someone can tell wether the v56 regmods work or not.
THANKS
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January 16, 2018, 05:18:32 PM
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does anyone have experience with this V56?
MSI Radeon RX Vega 56 Boost OC
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/Radeon-RX-Vega-56-Air-Boost-8G-OC/Overview

Hashrates and setup would be great
even if someone can tell wether the v56 regmods work or not.
THANKS
i have this 3 pics,all of cards have Hynix HBM. so,i set up memory clock 890@900mv core 1400mh stable.with ~1800H/s.
powerplaymod is working fine same AIB card's. Cry Cry Cry
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January 16, 2018, 06:07:07 PM
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does anyone have experience with this V56?
MSI Radeon RX Vega 56 Boost OC
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/Radeon-RX-Vega-56-Air-Boost-8G-OC/Overview

Hashrates and setup would be great
even if someone can tell wether the v56 regmods work or not.
THANKS
i have this 3 pics,all of cards have Hynix HBM. so,i set up memory clock 890@900mv core 1400mh stable.with ~1800H/s.
powerplaymod is working fine same AIB card's. Cry Cry Cry
Okay, I guess it is not that bad. Having more is always better....
What about the temps?
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January 16, 2018, 07:35:39 PM
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does anyone have experience with this V56?
MSI Radeon RX Vega 56 Boost OC
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/Radeon-RX-Vega-56-Air-Boost-8G-OC/Overview

Hashrates and setup would be great
even if someone can tell wether the v56 regmods work or not.
THANKS
i have this 3 pics,all of cards have Hynix HBM. so,i set up memory clock 890@900mv core 1400mh stable.with ~1800H/s.
powerplaymod is working fine same AIB card's. Cry Cry Cry

Did you try pushing your Hynix memory to 930 or 950 mem range? Does it hash in good result? Or just throwing invalid shares all around?

Thanks.
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January 16, 2018, 07:44:49 PM
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does anyone have experience with this V56?
MSI Radeon RX Vega 56 Boost OC
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/Radeon-RX-Vega-56-Air-Boost-8G-OC/Overview

Hashrates and setup would be great
even if someone can tell wether the v56 regmods work or not.
THANKS
i have this 3 pics,all of cards have Hynix HBM. so,i set up memory clock 890@900mv core 1400mh stable.with ~1800H/s.
powerplaymod is working fine same AIB card's. Cry Cry Cry

Did you try pushing your Hynix memory to 930 or 950 mem range? Does it hash in good result? Or just throwing invalid shares all around?

Thanks.
temp is around 55-60 fan rpm 3000-3500. bit higher becouse i use Onda B250-D8P. its close by GPUs.

pushing memclock to 930 is can. but show invalid shares.   940 is unstable.  Sad Sad Sad
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January 16, 2018, 09:50:23 PM
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does anyone have experience with this V56?
MSI Radeon RX Vega 56 Boost OC
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/Radeon-RX-Vega-56-Air-Boost-8G-OC/Overview

Hashrates and setup would be great
even if someone can tell wether the v56 regmods work or not.
THANKS
i have this 3 pics,all of cards have Hynix HBM. so,i set up memory clock 890@900mv core 1400mh stable.with ~1800H/s.
powerplaymod is working fine same AIB card's. Cry Cry Cry

Did you try pushing your Hynix memory to 930 or 950 mem range? Does it hash in good result? Or just throwing invalid shares all around?

Thanks.
temp is around 55-60 fan rpm 3000-3500. bit higher becouse i use Onda B250-D8P. its close by GPUs.

pushing memclock to 930 is can. but show invalid shares.   940 is unstable.  Sad Sad Sad
Maybe you have high temp. issues.
What are your HBM2 temps
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January 17, 2018, 04:11:00 AM
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does anyone have experience with this V56?
MSI Radeon RX Vega 56 Boost OC
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/Radeon-RX-Vega-56-Air-Boost-8G-OC/Overview

Hashrates and setup would be great
even if someone can tell wether the v56 regmods work or not.
THANKS
i have this 3 pics,all of cards have Hynix HBM. so,i set up memory clock 890@900mv core 1400mh stable.with ~1800H/s.
powerplaymod is working fine same AIB card's. Cry Cry Cry

Did you try pushing your Hynix memory to 930 or 950 mem range? Does it hash in good result? Or just throwing invalid shares all around?

Thanks.
temp is around 55-60 fan rpm 3000-3500. bit higher becouse i use Onda B250-D8P. its close by GPUs.

pushing memclock to 930 is can. but show invalid shares.   940 is unstable.  Sad Sad Sad

Same as my case, seems to be a Hynix issue. My ASUS Strix also purely throw invalid shares at much higher OC. At 890 mem it's hashing fine at lower rate.
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January 17, 2018, 11:32:25 AM
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What clocks are you using?

Could be sillicon lotery, my 56 for example doesnt really like anything above 935Mhz on memory.
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