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Author Topic: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine  (Read 823660 times)
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September 21, 2017, 10:49:18 AM
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LOL, someone kicked me from discord. There is too many idiots  Shocked
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September 21, 2017, 10:50:03 AM
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LOL, someone kicked me from discord. There is too many idiots  Shocked

The internet is full of them.
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September 21, 2017, 10:55:07 AM
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I raised valid points, rebut them, don't ignore them.


But I've already responded to the 'facts' you've mentioned. You have raised nothing that points to this being a scam. This coin had 24 trading volume in the high 70's back near the beginning of August, so 40 or so isn't exactly out of the ordinary. You're talking as if ASIC resistance contributes to it being a scam? How? The algorithm itself is what's ASIC resistant and the choice of algorithm has no impact on whether the coin is a scam or not. In fact this algo IMO is a great choice. It does make it better than many other coins because wile in PoS stage it makes it a great choice for GPU miners, so obviously appeals to miners. Then there's the marketplace, the upcoming exchange, web wallet. But I guess to you this means nothing and does not separate it from the rest. Sure, what ever. Why does it even matter if it is the same as other coins anyway? Bitcoin is technically inferior to many other coins but it's the coin that gets the spotlight so maintains its intrinsic value. So it is still a valuable, worth-while coin. But by your logic, it's not.

For it to be a scam, there clearly has to be a way for the creators to grab people's money in some unfair way. How are they doing this? You have yet to make a single valid point or argument.
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September 21, 2017, 11:11:56 AM
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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September 21, 2017, 11:14:18 AM
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A lot of trolls and fud wishing to bring down the price to buy a signature is cheaper.

Do not give in to panic, the signature will be in the top 20 coins in the near future.
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September 21, 2017, 11:15:00 AM
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Friederich Nietzsche once said “Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”

This could not be a more accurate statement in this case, by constantly running round shouting "SCAM" at every new coin only causes losses to those invested, therefore creating a scam by proxy. telling people to get out your going to loose money, only looses them.... money.

If anyone wants to substantiate a claim that the coin is a scam then go ahead, substantiate it, saying "whitepaper is crap" "Asics resistance can not be proven" "fake volume" are not facts, they are opinions.

If you would like to be taken seriously then document findings with actual quantitative and qualitative research, present your findings supported in a document with facts and analysis, only then will anyone take you seriously.

Right now shouting "Scam" makes you no better than the naysayers with a placard in time square, and lets be honest who the fuck listens to those.  
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September 21, 2017, 11:15:41 AM
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cryptodevil you have not posted any facts to support your claim. You just repeat an accusation that there are loads of fake accounts posting positive stuff about the coin. Even if this were true, which I don't know if it is or isn't, how is this different to what you are doing and how on earth does that make the coin a scam?

I am posting objective facts, they are posting angry vitriol.


Okay, but what facts make this a scam? Saying there's nothing 'great' or 'different' about this coin doesn't make it a scam. VHS was inferior to BetaMax, yet we all used VHS. It's not always about what is objectively better. Give us a real reason to listen to you...

Ok, if you choose to ignore the entirety of the facts I already posted in reply to your request for facts I will have to assume you are trolling and are just another scammer account.

cryptodevil you have not posted any facts to support your claim. You just repeat an accusation that there are loads of fake accounts posting positive stuff about the coin. Even if this were true, which I don't know if it is or isn't, how is this different to what you are doing and how on earth does that make the coin a scam?

I am posting objective facts, they are posting angry vitriol.

Look at the OP:
-/ Your crypto identity /-
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New Skunkhash Raptor Algo
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The only two 'features' mentioned are something to do with "Your crypto identity", which isn't even a thing in the whitepaper and the 'New' algorithm, which concerns only the 100-day PoW mining period.

Why do you think a legit project would be hyping their coin on two elements which have no purpose whatsoever?

Because it is nothing more than a cynical grab for cash.

The 43BTC trading volume on YoBit for the past 24 hours is fake. For a coin to be getting those numbers through legitimate trading it requires that it be considered a valuable technology by serious investors, which this coin is clearly not as it does not have any valuable tech.

Which means that those 43BTC of trades are largely fake volume and that only occurs when the 'project' is trying to con people into thinking it is a valuable coin in order to get them to buy in so the scammers can offload their bags of shitcoins in exchange for the, actually valuable, btc.

Hence the practice of them posting about how Bitcoin is apparently just as much a shitcoin, along with, as you will see if you look through this thread, many posts advising users of the supposed wisdom of not selling their coins right now because [insert arbitrary reason or promise of 'moon' here].




I raised valid points, rebut them, don't ignore them.



still missing any facts about your claim signatum is scam.
i participate since beginning at telegram and discord group and can confirm there is real human on there no bot or something.
And you claim that 43BTC trading volume on yobit is fake, why? is not fake all poeple move they sigt from nova and cryptopia to yobit.
so whats is fake?

you can see it on history data on coinmarketcap and cryptocompare

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September 21, 2017, 11:17:52 AM
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We have any news on the amount required for a masternode yet ?

Need to stack up the missing coins before we go mnmode.
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September 21, 2017, 11:21:48 AM
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A lot of trolls and fud wishing to bring down the price to buy a signature is cheaper.

Do not give in to panic, the signature will be in the top 20 coins in the near future.

Careful now, you wouldn't want CryptoDevil to lower your trust rating. He thinks everyone who disagree's with him is a scammer or a bot.

On your point. I disagree, I dont think Signatum will be in top 20 anytime soon, but I'd be happy at $2. My F350 is getting worn out and I need a new truck. Its a 2012, but I have 230k miles.....lol....new truck would be great with no out of pocket cost...
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September 21, 2017, 11:21:58 AM
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still no way to mine on 7970/7950 ?

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September 21, 2017, 11:23:57 AM
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A lot of trolls and fud wishing to bring down the price to buy a signature is cheaper.

Do not give in to panic, the signature will be in the top 20 coins in the near future.

Careful now, you wouldn't want CryptoDevil to lower your trust rating. He thinks everyone who disagree's with him is a scammer or a bot.

On your point. I disagree, I dont think Signatum will be in top 20 anytime soon, but I'd be happy at $2. My F350 is getting worn out and I need a new truck. Its a 2012, but I have 230k miles.....lol....new truck would be great with no out of pocket cost...

When you look it that way, I'm voting for a 5$

daddy needs a new Suzuki Cheesy
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September 21, 2017, 11:28:09 AM
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We have any news on the amount required for a masternode yet ?

Need to stack up the missing coins before we go mnmode.

Details for Masternodes are not available at the moment . Will update when the testing is over . Price is low . stack it up mate Smiley

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September 21, 2017, 11:28:51 AM
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Signatum - best coin for me.
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September 21, 2017, 11:29:23 AM
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Hm a Legendary Troll this is something new Cheesy but funny that when the trolls start the action the coin is crowing  Grin and Cryptodevil you are right you can say what you think about the coin but why you only repeat ever and ever again the algorhytm and the 100 pow phase you say nothing about the marketplace or the communty behind the coin who build funds to list her coin on other exchanges....you only repeat two thinks all the time  Grin seem that you way to get legendary member you repeat thinks every and every time  Grin Grin
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September 21, 2017, 11:30:29 AM
Last edit: September 21, 2017, 11:48:37 AM by SlowGrowth
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Oh wow! I have not seen one of these for a long time.

In cryptocurrency terms this is a real blast-from-the-past given the preference for bullshit ICOs these day!

What we have here is what is known as a shitcoin and I cannot believe people still fall for this nonsense.


Ladies, gentlemen and others, please be upstanding for the single most laughably obvious absurdity of this entire project:
https://signatum.io/
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Signatum features the new SkunkHash Raptor algorithm that enables strong ASIC-resistance during the proof of work phase

The ENTIRE premise of this ridiculous shitshow is the hype surrounding how this 'revolutionary' algorithm offers strong ASIC resistance. But the PoW period is only 100 days! Who the fuck would care about building an ASIC to mine this? The 'devs' could just as easily have picked any of the legitimate algorithms for which ASICS do not exist.

100 days of PoW!

The whitepaper consists of paragraph after paragraph of talk about this coin's PoW algo and NOTHING else of any difference to EVERY other fucking clone-a-coin cryptocurrency out there. It isn't even a technical whitepaper, it is just rambling hand-wavy bollocks!

That you are even arguing over who said or did what from this con-artist 'dev team' would be hilarious if it weren't for the truth that most of you will have lost a substantial amount of your own funds in this fraud.


Jesus Fucking Christ, I am genuinely shocked that this old-school style of crypto scam is still being run and people are still falling for it.
SMH.



I have tried to read all your points to understand what exacly is your fundaments behind your scam accusations... ( Please correct me if im wrong in any point )

Your number 1 claim is that the only feature been hyped on this "shitcoin" is the asic proff capability wich in your eyes is a smoke screen for the hype... Well i have some questions... Isnt it true? Isnt this algo Asic resistant? Lets say all the other possible future coins that use this algo will benefit from that or no?

Regarding this point 1 i think you are forgetting a couple important things... Marketplace and Webwallet both are live in beta version so people can use it and see it... Yes of course its not yet 100% functional ( thats the meaning of Beta version im sure you know that ), but at least exists and its live, you cant deny that... Let me ask you this... Wich other coins, in your glorious days of catching scammers, had released usefull aplications for their coins? I have not been around has much has you ( assuming your account is real and not bought ) and i also have seen a lot of scams during my short period but i cant remember one that had actually spent time developing anything besides a coin deamon...

Your 2 point is about fake accounts and scammers ( i couldnt really understand well because that seems like complete nonsense to anyone that has spend the last 2 years in crypto and seen this huge rise in crypto users ) all i can say is that there is a active discord channel where the devs have been around everyday during the past 2 months and i can speak with more then 1000 people there that im completly sure are not bots....

Has i said in the begining please correct me if i missed any of your points...

A non-bot account

SlowGrowth

Edit 1981 users... nearly 2k bots\scammers on Signatum discord...
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September 21, 2017, 11:30:39 AM
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A lot of trolls and fud wishing to bring down the price to buy a signature is cheaper.

Do not give in to panic, the signature will be in the top 20 coins in the near future.

Careful now, you wouldn't want CryptoDevil to lower your trust rating. He thinks everyone who disagree's with him is a scammer or a bot.

On your point. I disagree, I dont think Signatum will be in top 20 anytime soon, but I'd be happy at $2. My F350 is getting worn out and I need a new truck. Its a 2012, but I have 230k miles.....lol....new truck would be great with no out of pocket cost...

When you look it that way, I'm voting for a 5$

daddy needs a new Suzuki Cheesy

LOL.....at $5 I'd buy a house and get the truck too....cant hurt to hope.
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September 21, 2017, 11:35:23 AM
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More pre-POS fudding? This is becoming a daily thing now. Signatum must be doing something right to attract these many fudders.
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September 21, 2017, 11:39:40 AM
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Friederich Nietzsche once said “Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”

This could not be a more accurate statement in this case, by constantly running round shouting "SCAM" at every new coin only causes losses to those invested, therefore creating a scam by proxy. telling people to get out your going to loose money, only looses them.... money.

If anyone wants to substantiate a claim that the coin is a scam then go ahead, substantiate it, saying "whitepaper is crap" "Asics resistance can not be proven" "fake volume" are not facts, they are opinions.

If you would like to be taken seriously then document findings with actual quantitative and qualitative research, present your findings supported in a document with facts and analysis, only then will anyone take you seriously.

Right now shouting "Scam" makes you no better than the naysayers with a placard in time square, and lets be honest who the fuck listens to those.  
Stop trying to be the smart guy here, I have learned also about nietsche when i was a schoolboy in the university when i studied social sciences. nothing special about that, you're a fraud.
Maybe you should try to argue in normal words because nothing you say is making any sense retard grow the fuck up

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September 21, 2017, 11:40:12 AM
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More pre-POS fudding? This is becoming a daily thing now. Signatum must be doing something right to attract these many fudders.

yeah, there are a few...I think they do this to bolster their post count....makes them feel special or something.....I think its funny. Seems the more they run their fat mouths the higher Sigt goes, its great.
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September 21, 2017, 11:42:19 AM
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A lot of trolls and fud wishing to bring down the price to buy a signature is cheaper.

Do not give in to panic, the signature will be in the top 20 coins in the near future.

Careful now, you wouldn't want CryptoDevil to lower your trust rating. He thinks everyone who disagree's with him is a scammer or a bot.

On your point. I disagree, I dont think Signatum will be in top 20 anytime soon, but I'd be happy at $2. My F350 is getting worn out and I need a new truck. Its a 2012, but I have 230k miles.....lol....new truck would be great with no out of pocket cost...

When you look it that way, I'm voting for a 5$

daddy needs a new Suzuki Cheesy

LOL.....at $5 I'd buy a house and get the truck too....cant hurt to hope.
I got only 2k...but I will buy more today or tomorrow if and when when price lowers
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