[ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees

[David48l]

in 10 years BTC could be down to 1.5625 BTC where BCH could have powered through 3-4 times as many blocks and only have a reward of 0.02441406 BCH or 0.01220703 BCH so to remain profitable the difficulty would need to be really low and really fast blocks

Your scenario is possible, but implausible.

Correct, it would be ridiculous to think that in 10 years the various groups of developers of bitcoin cash do not update the EDA  



Well core is taking more than 3 years to scale bitcoin ... maybe  

[tekmobile]

in 10 years BTC could be down to 1.5625 BTC where BCH could have powered through 3-4 times as many blocks and only have a reward of 0.02441406 BCH or 0.01220703 BCH so to remain profitable the difficulty would need to be really low and really fast blocks

Your scenario is possible, but implausible.

Correct, it would be ridiculous to think that in 10 years the various groups of developers of bitcoin cash do not update the EDA  



Well core is taking more than 3 years to scale bitcoin ... maybe  

Various groups of developers ? you mean the ones that failed on XT, classic and unlimited

Well the developer does not see it as a priority and had openly said so even though the users have gave more than a few examples of how to fix it and many have suggested to just remove it altogether because its not needed anymore

The only conclusion can be that he is taking a bribe from the miners because they need it or he thinks the hard fork required would kill BCH and its best to just let it struggle

[riils]

In short, bitcoin cash is exactly that bitcoin without segwit / paypal, but without waiting in confirmation times and extremely low rates.

Do you realize that saying that Segwit = paypal is retarded, as Segwit has nothing to do with centralization? If anything, BCash is more "paypal" because it has larger blocks. It is arguable whether these larger blocks are too large or not. But there has to be reasonable limit to block size, not some "gigablock" nonsense where blocks are so large you might as well store everyone's balance in a MySQL database, forget about the blockchain and be done with it.

[riils]

I don't understand the BCash fanatics irrational objections to Segwit. As far as I can tell, it's just a clever optimisation and rearrangement of how data is stored to save space. Where is the objection? It's like hating file compression because it exists and it can save space 

[tekmobile]

I don't understand the BCash fanatics irrational objections to Segwit. As far as I can tell, it's just a clever optimisation and rearrangement of how data is stored to save space. Where is the objection? It's like hating file compression because it exists and it can save space 

Its because anyone can steal your coins that's why in the time its been available on litecoin and more recently bitcoin you've see all those 0 complaints of everyone's coins going missing

[David48l]

in 10 years BTC could be down to 1.5625 BTC where BCH could have powered through 3-4 times as many blocks and only have a reward of 0.02441406 BCH or 0.01220703 BCH so to remain profitable the difficulty would need to be really low and really fast blocks

Your scenario is possible, but implausible.

Correct, it would be ridiculous to think that in 10 years the various groups of developers of bitcoin cash do not update the EDA  



Well core is taking more than 3 years to scale bitcoin ... maybe  

Various groups of developers ? you mean the ones that failed on XT, classic and unlimited

Well the developer does not see it as a priority and had openly said so even though the users have gave more than a few examples of how to fix it and many have suggested to just remove it altogether because its not needed anymore

The only conclusion can be that he is taking a bribe from the miners because they need it or he thinks the hard fork required would kill BCH and its best to just let it struggle

Please, no more FUD

You are on my list of core trolls

Both the multiple development groups and users of bitcoin cash are free to comment and contribute to development. Not as in the case of core that censor everything that does not respond to blockstream / Axa, bancons, capitalism, elites, government, etc.

[tekmobile]

in 10 years BTC could be down to 1.5625 BTC where BCH could have powered through 3-4 times as many blocks and only have a reward of 0.02441406 BCH or 0.01220703 BCH so to remain profitable the difficulty would need to be really low and really fast blocks

Your scenario is possible, but implausible.

Correct, it would be ridiculous to think that in 10 years the various groups of developers of bitcoin cash do not update the EDA  



Well core is taking more than 3 years to scale bitcoin ... maybe  

Various groups of developers ? you mean the ones that failed on XT, classic and unlimited

Well the developer does not see it as a priority and had openly said so even though the users have gave more than a few examples of how to fix it and many have suggested to just remove it altogether because its not needed anymore

The only conclusion can be that he is taking a bribe from the miners because they need it or he thinks the hard fork required would kill BCH and its best to just let it struggle

Please, no more FUD

You are on my list of core trolls

Both the multiple development groups and users of bitcoin cash are free to comment and contribute to development. Not as in the case of core that censor everything that does not respond to blockstream / Axa, bancons, capitalism, elites, government, etc.

I would like to hear your opinion then on why there is a delay in fixing the EDA im no full time developer but can code and could fix the EDA in well under an hour so its not time requirements.

I could even fork the code now and fix the EDA but it would need promotion and all the other stuff required to raise awareness and to convince everyone to use it which I do not have the time or interest in doing

[lonesomestranger]

Check out this promising project BitCore
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1883902.0

There is only 1 bitcoin.All other delusions are are there to steal bitcoin from the noobs who will pay for what is given free.

I have the same opinion, all forks of Bitcoin are just cheap clones, meant to confuse people and to distabilize Bitcoin. How many forks will follow after Bitcoin Gold? 1, 2, 10 ? How many briliant minds will try to improve Bitcoin in the future, following only their own advantages? Just let the Bitcoin the way it is !

[David48l]

In short, bitcoin cash is exactly that bitcoin without segwit / paypal, but without waiting in confirmation times and extremely low rates.

Do you realize that saying that Segwit = paypal is retarded, as Segwit has nothing to do with centralization? If anything, BCash is more "paypal" because it has larger blocks. It is arguable whether these larger blocks are too large or not. But there has to be reasonable limit to block size, not some "gigablock" nonsense where blocks are so large you might as well store everyone's balance in a MySQL database, forget about the blockchain and be done with it.

Please, no more FUD

You are on my list of core trolls

Or he is very ignorant and manipulative or doing an excellent job troll and fud

Your incompetence overwhelms me, Or is very ignorant and manipulative or doing an excellent job troll and fud

I will explain more slowly. Segwit is the basis on which future implementations core, Lightning network style, sidechains, = payment channels, = paypal

if you want to applaud your fud comments go to the bitcoin core forum, in fact should be there celbrando the price and not wasting time here. Unless you get paid for it

currently in core slow transactions

https://blockchain.info/es/unconfirmed-transactions

high rates

https://blockchain.info/tx/1cdd0e96eb93bd0b0964fe56f7f5111aff0bcb9c95ff0bb7d63c6cbb8127d352

explain to my grandfather that to pay in a trade when a tourist trip will first have to open a payment channel that will never use again, and will have to pay to open, pay to send and pay to close. Go rather looks like paypal

[David48l]

I don't understand the BCash fanatics irrational objections to Segwit. As far as I can tell, it's just a clever optimisation and rearrangement of how data is stored to save space. Where is the objection? It's like hating file compression because it exists and it can save space 

Use segwit if you want, I do not need to go to the core forum to talk about it.

I simply say do not come here to talk bad about the benefits of bitcoin cash.

I only defend a bitcoin for people and not for companies

This is what one of your beloved members of the core army says

https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/783994642463326208

You can go to lick her ass if you want, I'm not paid for it like you

While tando in Bitcoin core

https://blockchain.info/es/unconfirmed-transactions

And the commissions thanks to their beloved core developers

https://blockchain.info/tx/11e347f941c95751ec9e6fc158c9cd5440bb9339f751412d71ebdbc7ab10dd27

[David48l]

In short, bitcoin cash is exactly that bitcoin without segwit / paypal, but without waiting in confirmation times and extremely low rates.

Do you realize that saying that Segwit = paypal is retarded, as Segwit has nothing to do with centralization? If anything, BCash is more "paypal" because it has larger blocks. It is arguable whether these larger blocks are too large or not. But there has to be reasonable limit to block size, not some "gigablock" nonsense where blocks are so large you might as well store everyone's balance in a MySQL database, forget about the blockchain and be done with it.

PLEASE NO MORE FUD

You are on my list of core salaried trolls

Your comment is totally false and irrational and without grounds

Curiously, everyone on my list gets along very well.

[OXUS]

will bitmain only accept bch for miners ?

[David48l]

will bitmain only accept bch for miners ?

At the moment it seems that they only accept bitcoin cash

[David48l]

My list of individuals or individuals, under high suspicion of being trolls

tekmobile
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1024303;sa=showPosts

roeks
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1115744;sa=showPosts

bitcoinPsycho
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1105439;sa=showPosts

rios
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=645981;sa=showPosts

Curiously they act together, warning to navigators

[David48l]

A little more for my friends trolls

It is a forum not censored or controlled by trolls in which each individual is free to express their opinion

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/767u4h/so_let_me_get_this_straight_core_supporters_want/

[David48l]

Wow, I'm sorry, I have even more

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7672s2/im_speechless_there_is_now_a_service_where_you/

everything is bad news for the core fans

[Haslett5236]

Check out this promising project BitCore
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1883902.0

There is only 1 bitcoin.All other delusions are are there to steal bitcoin from the noobs who will pay for what is given free.

I have the same opinion, all forks of Bitcoin are just cheap clones, meant to confuse people and to distabilize Bitcoin. How many forks will follow after Bitcoin Gold? 1, 2, 10 ? How many briliant minds will try to improve Bitcoin in the future, following only their own advantages? Just let the Bitcoin the way it is !

i am very amazing that bitcoin have 4 forks ?  i only know that bitcoin cash and bitcoin gold coming soon .

wow , why we need so many forks?

[tekmobile]

in 10 years BTC could be down to 1.5625 BTC where BCH could have powered through 3-4 times as many blocks and only have a reward of 0.02441406 BCH or 0.01220703 BCH so to remain profitable the difficulty would need to be really low and really fast blocks

Your scenario is possible, but implausible.

Correct, it would be ridiculous to think that in 10 years the various groups of developers of bitcoin cash do not update the EDA  



Well core is taking more than 3 years to scale bitcoin ... maybe  

Various groups of developers ? you mean the ones that failed on XT, classic and unlimited

Well the developer does not see it as a priority and had openly said so even though the users have gave more than a few examples of how to fix it and many have suggested to just remove it altogether because its not needed anymore

The only conclusion can be that he is taking a bribe from the miners because they need it or he thinks the hard fork required would kill BCH and its best to just let it struggle

Please, no more FUD

You are on my list of core trolls

Both the multiple development groups and users of bitcoin cash are free to comment and contribute to development. Not as in the case of core that censor everything that does not respond to blockstream / Axa, bancons, capitalism, elites, government, etc.

I would like to hear your opinion then on why there is a delay in fixing the EDA im no full time developer but can code and could fix the EDA in well under an hour so its not time requirements.

I could even fork the code now and fix the EDA but it would need promotion and all the other stuff required to raise awareness and to convince everyone to use it which I do not have the time or interest in doing

[David48l]

I would like to hear your opinion then on why there is a delay in fixing the EDA im no full time developer but can code and could fix the EDA in well under an hour so its not time requirements.

I could even fork the code now and fix the EDA but it would need promotion and all the other stuff required to raise awareness and to convince everyone to use it which I do not have the time or interest in doing

First of all there is no delay, they are discussing the best solution in an environment free of opinions and solutions. I think they implemented it last November after all the swx2 noise

Secondly, it is not a single developer as in a fully centralized core, but of course that has no repercussion. A single person is not easily bribable or manipulative.

There are several development groups and each exposes their arguments to be debated and reach a real consensus, then test it in a safe environment, etc., etc. There is no censorship, no deception, no fud, no financed trolls, and it takes time. But rest assured that it will not be 3 years as core in implementing a solution

Thirdly, he is an expert in programming and he sees everything very simple, but he gives me no idea, I'm sure he has not touched a programming language in his life. Defending something that has no idea is quite absurd does not believe?

[David48l]

I would like to hear your opinion then on why there is a delay in fixing the EDA im no full time developer but can code and could fix the EDA in well under an hour so its not time requirements.

I would like to hear your opinion about why bitcoin core has not solved this in more than 3 years!

https://blockchain.info/es/unconfirmed-transactions

come on, I hear you, this forum is not censored, it can be debated freely

luckily we are not in the btc core forum  

And explain this fee too

https://blockchain.info/tx/51c97000982fa022d749d482ee5df7d634a8bc476182d986d3f9f1c226182538