BiblePay - New Coin Launch - Official Thread

[maarekelets]

I just got an idea that might add some value to our community (thinking along the lines of adding features until we are worth more than $1 a coin) and pulling our own weight.

I was trying to read the news, and I had 2 problems.  The first problem was, the headline shows "Kim Jong Un launches another missile over Japan", but after 3 attempts to click on the article I was unable to actually read it because each site wants you to join to read the article (for $5 a month).  So I had to google the article to read it.

Problem #2, news article #2 was "US tank brigade rolls into Poland".  Click on this link, and you receive questionable nudity in the right column (since its from The Sun, which btw I emailed them about) and it is VERY disturbing enough to make a Christian want to avoid the site permanently.  Also on a side note the new HTML5 ads are not blockable with adblocker.

Anyway, I was thinking what if we had Blockchain News?  We could create an RPC command that stores a news article, have volunteers type them from a web page, Preview them, include pics, and the web site would transmit the HTML of the article into the block chain with external <img>tags referenced.  Then later if people view the news from in the wallet, they could up-down vote it.  Upvoted articles could reimburse some BBP back to the key who authored it (like steemit).  Downvoted makes the news sort to the bottom so people dont waste their time reading badly designed news.

Valuable?

I was literally floating a very similar concept around with my other developer friends earlier this week. I feel like there is a lot of value (and difficult problems) in the concept of trying to tie value to the information itself rather than to valuing the gatekeeper to the information. There would be a lot to learn in this about how information is actually valued. One major problem would be dealing with prevailing group bias in pivoting what people want to hear vs what the reality is but it still to me sounds like something worth trying. i really like the idea.

[616westwarmoth]

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My personal thoughts are there is no reason to limit pool workers, there are too many easy ways to get around it.  However, I'd say the solution is to show only their first 5 in the logs and then a note that says "57 additional: 542246 (584455)"  Ultimately even big miners are a benefit to the pools.  The way I see it, a big farm would just as well be off solo mining, they'll gain the law of averages and not have the overhead of pool communication (which is very small, but in aggregate adds up).
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With a miner with a lot of hashing power though, you need to watch out for the risk of a 51% attack or the possibility of one.

True, but do take into account we have a lot of hidden miners that arent in the pool, I dont know why but we have had about 300-400 solo miners since the beginning.  I am just making this assumption based on blocks not solved by the pool and the connection count to the node.biblepay.org.

Right now, since we're still in CPU only mode (and it seems mid range CPU's are punching out of their weight class), it would take a pretty big miner to go 51% (whereas if we were ASIC, well, one guy with 25 idle Antminers could fork the system and own us all).  The other beauty is right now, you can call up 5 of your friends that have a PC but only surf or play light games on it (casual computer users), tell them how to mine this coin with little impact on their system and they'll be offsetting any big farm due to the mid-range CPU bias right now.  Basically, my mom could mine this coin.  Since she's got an i5 processor (if I remember correctly), she'd offset approximately .5% of a 100 worker farm.  Multiply that by all our parents, vaguely computer literate friends and coworkers and a 51% attack in the mining sector becomes a tough feat.

I would be curious to see just how many solo miners there are, I've got a couple boxes solo just for the experience and I'm a fan of the law of averages (and believe there has got to be SOME sort of overhead to being in the pool, which for most users is so minor that it can be safely ignored, but for someone throwing 1MhS at it, probably starts to see a better return solo after a few months).

[richus]

When will be available the wallet c-cex.com??? I wrote "Maintenance..."

[Plainkoin]

Hello, Am I on the wrong chain again?  Even my ancient dual core is getting ridiculous amount of blocks solo mining.  I hesitate to say just how many today.  I am getting confirmations, but this behavior is odd.  Its raining blocks and it hasn't been like this in a long while.

I am on 1.0.3.1 (64-bit) and at this time on Block 7671.

[Shoko943]

Hello, Am I on the wrong chain again?  Even my ancient dual core is getting ridiculous amount of blocks solo mining.  I hesitate to say just how many today.  I am getting confirmations, but this behavior is odd.  Its raining blocks and it hasn't been like this in a long while.

I am on 1.0.3.1 (64-bit) and at this time on Block 7671.

Biblepay 1.0.3.4-Mandatory Upgrade
www.biblepay.org

- Fix ST13 Error
- Fix f7000 Low-Subsidy based on High-Diff calculation
- Fix Pool banning issue
- Fix Read Disk error

- At block 7500, we raise the subsidy back to ~18,000.

You're on the wrong chain. There was a new mandatory 2 days ago.

[slovakia]

very weird= on my htpc machine wallet still crashing 

[inblue]

If pool payouts are based on HPS and not HPS2 (are they?), then why is the leaderboard sorted by HPS2 by default?

P.S. I didn't have time, I will test the 1.0.3.5 soon and report back if the miners stopped disappearing.

[slovakia]

Is it normal that an I5 4210M (2 cores-4 threads and genproclimit=4) gives better HPS than an Xeon x5650 (6 cores-12 threads and genproclimit=6 or 12)
Also the six core Xeon gives better results with genproclimit=6 than 12.

for this question BLIBLE_PAY doesnt know answer... cos my best slow 2core=8500hashes has better results like like my RYZEN 1700 8cores with 5000 hashes

[nananaminer]

I noticed my linux miner seems to dissapear from the pool 10-60 minutes after restarting it, but it still says poolmining true

I do run the linux machine at 32 threads, is there still a thread limit on the pool?
Ill double check the debug.log but I think last time I checked nothing popped out at me.

My miners are disappearing from the pool since two days ago with even only 4 threads and it's still like that. I just set up an automatic restarting of the daemon every 20 minutes with this command:

Code:

watch -n 1200 "./biblepay-cli stop && sleep 10 && ./biblepayd -daemon"

Ok for those dropping from the pool, I just sent out 1.0.3.5 (Non-Mandatory) as a pre-release.
Please test it and we can burn in overnight then release tomorrow.

Regarding the error Happy reported Im still looking at that, it seems to be going away, so Im still trying to get a true root cause.

Upgraded to new 1.0.3.5 and tested the new build with linux miners, the miners are still dropping off from the pool as before .
I'm pretty much running a recursive command as inblue does since yesterday.

Code:

while [1]; do ./biblepayd -daemon && sleep 1300 && ./biblepay-cli stop && sleep 15; done

[inblue]

Upgraded to new 1.0.3.5 and tested the new build with linux miners, the miners are still dropping off from the pool as before .
I'm pretty much running a recursive command as inblue does since yesterday.

Code:

while [1]; do ./biblepayd -daemon && sleep 1300 && ./biblepay-cli stop && sleep 15; done

Thanks for reporting about 1.0.3.5. Btw in the meantime I found out it's much easier to do it like you did, with "while true" and not "watch", and also I put the command in a file I named "autorestart.sh" with #!/bin/sh on top and I just run that file and the miners have stayed on the pool all night.

[oliwer21]

Is it normal that an I5 4210M (2 cores-4 threads and genproclimit=4) gives better HPS than an Xeon x5650 (6 cores-12 threads and genproclimit=6 or 12)
Also the six core Xeon gives better results with genproclimit=6 than 12.

for this question BLIBLE_PAY doesnt know answer... cos my best slow 2core=8500hashes has better results like like my RYZEN 1700 8cores with 5000 hashes

Hps2 is this what we should watch cuz this give us coins.
P.S. read my last post about my hash on ryzen

[richus]

When will be available the wallet c-cex.com??? I wrote "Maintenance..."

[svirusxxx2]

Upgraded to new 1.0.3.5 and tested the new build with linux miners, the miners are still dropping off from the pool as before .
I'm pretty much running a recursive command as inblue does since yesterday.

Code:

while [1]; do ./biblepayd -daemon && sleep 1300 && ./biblepay-cli stop && sleep 15; done

Thanks for reporting about 1.0.3.5. Btw in the meantime I found out it's much easier to do it like you did, with "while true" and not "watch", and also I put the command in a file I named "autorestart.sh" with #!/bin/sh on top and I just run that file and the miners have stayed on the pool all night.

use http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html
svc can monitoring process and weake up when it die.
it's very simple to use

BTW all my miners are online from 13. september. no one die , all are working.

[jamie1989]

"poolinfo3": "SNA; ",

What does that mean, also just say i want to do some solo mine what would i need to take out in the config to do it.

Code:

addnode=node.biblepay.org  
addnode=biblepay.inspect.network  
gen=1  
genproclimit=7
poolport=80  
pool=http://pool.biblepay.org  
workerid= jamie 

[emdes]

"poolinfo3": "SNA; ",

What does that mean, also just say i want to do some solo mine what would i need to take out in the config to do it.

Code:

addnode=node.biblepay.org  
addnode=biblepay.inspect.network  
gen=1  
genproclimit=7
poolport=80  
pool=http://pool.biblepay.org  
workerid= jamie 

The 3 lines with pool info. poolport=80, pool=http://pool.biblepay.org and workerid= jamie 

[bible_pay]

When will be available the wallet c-cex.com??? I wrote "Maintenance..."

C-CEX is waiting for us to give them green light to upgrade.

I want to ensure the ReadBlockFromDisk error is Dead before I green light them.

Overnight, I made an update internally to the pool server with new code.  Now I am burning it in. 
We will have to wait until I have time to parse the logs and ensure the error is dead.

[bible_pay]

Upgraded to new 1.0.3.5 and tested the new build with linux miners, the miners are still dropping off from the pool as before .
I'm pretty much running a recursive command as inblue does since yesterday.

Code:

while [1]; do ./biblepayd -daemon && sleep 1300 && ./biblepay-cli stop && sleep 15; done

Hmm, Im not sure if I agree with this; when I debugged yesterday, it was definitely the cache, and after 1035 the miner is definitely re-reporting every 6 mins; before the problem, my Vultr Nix box was dropping, After upgrade is not dropping; vultr nix log info showing it is working.

Could you please try the latest version again without your script?

[bible_pay]

Anyway, I was thinking what if we had Blockchain News?  We could create an RPC command that stores a news article, have volunteers type them from a web page, Preview them, include pics, and the web site would transmit the HTML of the article into the block chain with external <img>tags referenced.  Then later if people view the news from in the wallet, they could up-down vote it.  Upvoted articles could reimburse some BBP back to the key who authored it (like steemit).  Downvoted makes the news sort to the bottom so people dont waste their time reading badly designed news.

I was literally floating a very similar concept around with my other developer friends earlier this week. I feel like there is a lot of value (and difficult problems) in the concept of trying to tie value to the information itself rather than to valuing the gatekeeper to the information. There would be a lot to learn in this about how information is actually valued. One major problem would be dealing with prevailing group bias in pivoting what people want to hear vs what the reality is but it still to me sounds like something worth trying. i really like the idea.

Thanks for all the input guys, sounds like something we might be able to do.
One other thing though, CBN.COM has an online prayer room.

Here is the valuable Link:

http://www1.cbn.com/prayer

 People post prayers in the 'trollbox', for example this one persons relative had cataract surgery, when you click the link and many many people pray for that person.

This is a higher calling, we may need a Prayer room, either in the pool or in the wallet. 

[svirusxxx2]

When will be available the wallet c-cex.com??? I wrote "Maintenance..."

C-CEX is waiting for us to give them green light to upgrade.

I want to ensure the ReadBlockFromDisk error is Dead before I green light them.

Overnight, I made an update internally to the pool server with new code.  Now I am burning it in. 
We will have to wait until I have time to parse the logs and ensure the error is dead.

hmm... on my non-mining nodes I last seen "ReadBlockFromDisk: Errors in block header" on 13 september

[nmmbeginner]

Can someone explain to me what the "genproclimit" number is and how it works. I know the higher it goes the more processing power you use in turn generating more coin. but the other day i was running it at 15 and now i can't run it over 8. is there a reason for that?