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Author Topic: [ANN][ICO] 🌟🌟 Datum - Unlock the Bln $$ Data Economy - ICO 29th October - 🌟🌟  (Read 84825 times)
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October 16, 2017, 07:55:54 PM
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The first fork will rise about 6000, the second will 6800, though I'm not sure if the second one will benefits BTC, it appears that is kind of illegal, I personally won't support the segwit BTc fork, so on a good note, it will increase BTC anyway, up until 6800, then it will go down to alts Cheesy.

We are all waiting for that to happen.
This will also be the time that a lot of money will come into ICO, some will come to Datum!

So dont panic when the ICO in begin aint getting much funding, it will explode after the forks Smiley
Cant wait to invest in this project!
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October 16, 2017, 08:00:51 PM
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What is the technology that allows data from one app on your Android or iPhone to be collected by a 3rd party app? Aren't apps isolated from each other?

No not really, for example there are tracking features wich allow to control other apps. Further everything is (temporarily) saved on the smartphone/pc. The app just needs access (;

I did not know that. Shocked Are you saying that potentially any app on a smartphone could have been eavesdropping on activity in other apps? Or what do you mean with "just needs access"?

This is not new. Say you like to surf website regarding cryptocurrency and blockchain, you will have more advertisement from those subjects delivered to you. You see it in youtube, facebook and other websites that has on-site advertising. So these few days some of us may be bombarded by advertisement from a certain ICO. These apps got your data from the phone. They took it free. Imagine with Datum you get to monetize it. Brilliant really.
Cookies and tracing addons are plague in these days. I hope that with Datum I will be able to benefit on this and monetize it  Cool
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October 16, 2017, 08:27:05 PM
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The first fork will rise about 6000, the second will 6800, though I'm not sure if the second one will benefits BTC, it appears that is kind of illegal, I personally won't support the segwit BTc fork, so on a good note, it will increase BTC anyway, up until 6800, then it will go down to alts Cheesy.

We are all waiting for that to happen.
This will also be the time that a lot of money will come into ICO, some will come to Datum!

So dont panic when the ICO in begin aint getting much funding, it will explode after the forks Smiley
Cant wait to invest in this project!
The more expensive the bitcoin will be the better for us, all investors will  to go into forks and buy on the tokens on ICO.
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October 16, 2017, 08:39:39 PM
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Datum is the perfect platform for backing up your data, whether from social networks, health data, navigation data, domotic ect, you can also sell them according to your own conditions, this is what gives back a label for personal data.
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October 16, 2017, 08:43:56 PM
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Finally I've read all the whitepaper. And I have a question. Won't Datum need some kind of monopoly to successfully function on the data market? Because large data consumers (facebook, google etc.) acquire and manage users data themselves. Or maybe Datum will be bought by some large player, data consumer shortly after launch (in june 2018)?

Yeah, there must also be a private function, so that only Datum get the data. For companies like Facebook it would be difficult, but, for example, there are many possibilities to block google "Services" who are saving what you are doing
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October 16, 2017, 08:57:29 PM
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How many coins are reserved for the giveaway trough the campaign that is already going on for weeks?  Is there a fear that they reserved too much coins for bounties which might influence the value after ICO?

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October 16, 2017, 09:00:52 PM
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since eth is rising in fiat, maybe datum should reconsider the amount given of DAT Tokens for 1 ETH at the upcoming ico?

Probably it's pointless. In dollars, they will still collect the amount that can be collected. In addition, possibly eth will drop in price until the 29th. Now if there are unsold tokens, what will happen to them?

Well I hope unsold tokens will get burned, but I am not 100% sure. Can someone confirm this?

Good point, I don't know, there's nothing stated in their wp but  I hope so too, with this huge total supply of token.

Well there has been a statement from Roger Haenni on Telegram but its from mid-August. He said Unsold tokens won't be burned. They will go to a reserve to be used for another funding round once the network goes live for example.
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October 16, 2017, 09:02:44 PM
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Yes im not worried about the ico, i really think that datum will raise a lot of money, ico start after the Bitcoin fork, and the market will be better for ico after it. And with that datum is a very bankable project with a huge target market and a lot of possibility and visibility. Datum will be a sucess I think.
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October 16, 2017, 09:06:03 PM
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Data Consumers can choose to disclose the following (or nothing):
1. Identity
2. General Privacy Policy
3. Use of Data
4. Lifetime of Data
5. Datum Network Trust Rating

I cant understand about last. What is "Datum Network Trust Rating"? Can anyone explaine me, please?

Datum plans a rating system as described in their whitepaper:

"Datum also plans to implement a trust ranking system for all users (this includes​ ​owners​ ​of​ ​data​ ​and​ ​buyers​ ​of​ ​data​ ​as​ ​well​ ​as​ ​storage​ ​node​ ​operators)"

Who will estimate this rank system? Users or datum service?
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October 16, 2017, 09:06:18 PM
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since eth is rising in fiat, maybe datum should reconsider the amount given of DAT Tokens for 1 ETH at the upcoming ico?

Probably it's pointless. In dollars, they will still collect the amount that can be collected. In addition, possibly eth will drop in price until the 29th. Now if there are unsold tokens, what will happen to them?

Well I hope unsold tokens will get burned, but I am not 100% sure. Can someone confirm this?

Good point, I don't know, there's nothing stated in their wp but  I hope so too, with this huge total supply of token.

Well there has been a statement from Roger Haenni on Telegram but its from mid-August. He said Unsold tokens won't be burned. They will go to a reserve to be used for another funding round once the network goes live for example.
If the tokens are not burned but will be frozen, this is not very good for investors, this will affect the price on the exchange negatively.
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October 16, 2017, 09:13:10 PM
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Finally I've read all the whitepaper. And I have a question. Won't Datum need some kind of monopoly to successfully function on the data market? Because large data consumers (facebook, google etc.) acquire and manage users data themselves. Or maybe Datum will be bought by some large player, data consumer shortly after launch (in june 2018)?

For me that's the most important question, how to convince the big players to use datum, what are benefits for the companies against the old ways of recolting data ?
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October 16, 2017, 09:25:37 PM
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really like this project...you want my data you pay for it
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October 16, 2017, 09:26:32 PM
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since eth is rising in fiat, maybe datum should reconsider the amount given of DAT Tokens for 1 ETH at the upcoming ico?

Probably it's pointless. In dollars, they will still collect the amount that can be collected. In addition, possibly eth will drop in price until the 29th. Now if there are unsold tokens, what will happen to them?

Well I hope unsold tokens will get burned, but I am not 100% sure. Can someone confirm this?

Good point, I don't know, there's nothing stated in their wp but  I hope so too, with this huge total supply of token.

Well there has been a statement from Roger Haenni on Telegram but its from mid-August. He said Unsold tokens won't be burned. They will go to a reserve to be used for another funding round once the network goes live for example.
If the tokens are not burned but will be frozen, this is not very good for investors, this will affect the price on the exchange negatively.

I also don't like this proposal to put unsold tokens in a reserve and do another token-sale round. But as I said, it's quite some time ago since Roger made this announcement on Telegram. Maybe they changed their mind in the meantime. Would be good to have an updated statement from the team regarding unsold tokens.
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October 16, 2017, 09:27:53 PM
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Hi, this project looks nice you also have a German whitepaper?

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October 16, 2017, 09:37:49 PM
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Hi, this project looks nice you also have a German whitepaper?
I think whitepaper only in English, at least on their site others have not seen
German theme, you can ask there: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2216896.0
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October 16, 2017, 09:56:54 PM
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Datum is the perfect platform for backing up your data, whether from social networks, health data, navigation data, domotic ect, you can also sell them according to your own conditions, this is what gives back a label for personal data.
Well said, the data in the future will be greatly appreciated, there will be a battle between companies for your data.
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October 16, 2017, 10:08:43 PM
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Datum is the perfect platform for backing up your data, whether from social networks, health data, navigation data, domotic ect, you can also sell them according to your own conditions, this is what gives back a label for personal data.
Well said, the data in the future will be greatly appreciated, there will be a battle between companies for your data.
And who put up more prices will get it  Grin
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October 16, 2017, 10:59:04 PM
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Datum is the perfect platform for backing up your data, whether from social networks, health data, navigation data, domotic ect, you can also sell them according to your own conditions, this is what gives back a label for personal data.
Indeed this platform has great potential and almost no competition in crypto world. With their dev team everything is possible  Wink
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October 16, 2017, 11:03:40 PM
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Datum is the perfect platform for backing up your data, whether from social networks, health data, navigation data, domotic ect, you can also sell them according to your own conditions, this is what gives back a label for personal data.
Indeed this platform has great potential and almost no competition in crypto world. With their dev team everything is possible  Wink

Literally zero competition afaik. This coin could reach 1$ fairly quickly I believe, less than 1 year after listing

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October 16, 2017, 11:07:55 PM
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Me too, i want in! Also, i don't understand the value of the collecting weather data. Doesn't that info come with my location anyway? Or have i misunderstood the point of collecting this data?

Yeah, because of the earlier mockups I thought Datum was mainly about social media data.

In the whitepaper they say something about DSensor SenseMaking. I just checked the website:

Dsensor uses Peer to Peer technology to apply the scientific method to data collected from sensors.

That makes it a bit more interesting to me than just Facebook and Google data.

IT actually all data you gather with your phone. IF you have an Apple device you could sell your HealthKit data. Or any other sensor data that is connected to your mobile.
It's actually a big market if you start investigating it.

My question was more like, can't you collect weather data automatically when you get my geolocation data? Is there a reason for selling that data separately? It would be like selling any freely available data pinned to some location. Since my phone doesn't have sensors for weather, but it downloads the information from somewhere. So i am guessing there's some reason for that picture that i haven't thought about.

I think the idea is that that sensor data does not come from the phone, but from separate hardware with a data connection to the phone. In this case it could be a personal, unofficial weather station. If you request weather data by location, you get from the nearest official weather station which might be miles away. If you wonder why people perform their own measurements, look up the citizen science movement.

I think this is just some proof of concept. I don't believe Datum will use weather data Smiley
Sensors are readily available on the internet for these kind of basic things.
Datum will yield a lot more when they use personal data like health and so on.
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