[ANN][YAC] YACoin ongoing development

[seleme]

I hope WM will compile windows one soon for people to feel more safe but I don't have problems with downloading blockchain. I have the message about checkpoint but blockchain is downloaded regularly, last block right now was generated 11 seconds ago.

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[Sahtor]

We should ask anderl from 2nd post in original Yacoin thread to post a update of this client.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=99835

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196196.0

[hanzac]

I compiled a version of win64 from windmaster's git branch, if you have 64-bit windows installed, you can try it.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/hnindev/files/yacoin-qt-0.4.0.0-g32a928e-winx64.zip

[megablue]

I compiled a version of win64 from windmaster's git branch, if you have 64-bit windows installed, you can try it.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/hnindev/files/yacoin-qt-0.4.0.0-g32a928e-winx64.zip

Nice!

[ntkrnl]

I compiled a version of win64 from windmaster's git branch, if you have 64-bit windows installed, you can try it.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/hnindev/files/yacoin-qt-0.4.0.0-g32a928e-winx64.zip

nice work
lou shang liang wei xia wu hao  

[KrLos]

I compiled a version of win64 from windmaster's git branch, if you have 64-bit windows installed, you can try it.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/hnindev/files/yacoin-qt-0.4.0.0-g32a928e-winx64.zip

Thanks

[dragon2nd]

some statistics from Abe:


EDIT: it's now online at http://yacexplorer.tk/

Nice work. I did try last week but hit a few stumbling blocks, intended to come back to it, so would really appreciate seeing your code to find out what I hadn't managed to figure out.

Some addresses with too many transactions failed to display. Like this one maybe:
http://yacexplorer.tk/address/YJH8f3XKtTXWHpCAgYpQCi5HAQ7SCPGSXA

[TheSpiral]

I compiled a version of win64 from windmaster's git branch, if you have 64-bit windows installed, you can try it.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/hnindev/files/yacoin-qt-0.4.0.0-g32a928e-winx64.zip

Good deal. I'm assuming the size is how it is because the dll's are included? It works without them, so I suppose. Good work, regardless. :p

[bitdwarf]

- The original developer no longer supports it.

YaCoin has now more developers looking at it than it had at the start. And in so far the code seems to have performed as intended, nothing fundamental needed to be changed in the wooping 11 days since pocopoco's last commit.

- Even though Windmaster is maintaining it. Its really not in his best interest. He would most likely do far better of with his FPGA code on a YAC clone or releasing his own coin.

Or he could end mutually anihilating both the clone and the original. Only a gambler risks a good position for a possibly better position.

- There are no Windows binaries out there of the current fork.

You only needed to ask nicely (or maybe pay a bounty, mmh?).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=206577.msg2207446#msg2207446

- The original version has the checkpoint message which scares a lot of people away.

Or not. I don't think granma is using YaCoins yet.

- If the coin wasn't on BTER I don't think there would be any real trades for it. I don't see a way to spend it otherwise.

The coin is 22 days old. It's a bit early for it to replace the dollar, end hunger, bring world peace, walk the dog and do my laundry.

- The general trend these last couple weeks are people are just cloning coins and releasing them with minimal changes. The odds are high that a YAC clone will be released with more features than this one.

"Minimal changes" and "more features" is a contradiction. There's still no "minimal changes" clone, even less a clone with "more features".

- The total hash rate is on a constant decline.

Or not. The stable rate can be expected to be lower than the post launch spike.

- Keep in mind most people are looking for the next big jump like another Litecoin if they don't see support on a coin they just move on.

YaCoin still isn't competing for resources with new GPU coins.

I think a coin like this has some high hopes I just don't think this coin is going to be it.

I guess it would suck if it was "it" after dumping 80k of them.

[hanzac]

Good deal. I'm assuming the size is how it is because the dll's are included? It works without them, so I suppose. Good work, regardless. :p

Oh, yes, I like the client statically compiled ...

[sairon]

Some addresses with too many transactions failed to display. Like this one maybe:
http://yacexplorer.tk/address/YJH8f3XKtTXWHpCAgYpQCi5HAQ7SCPGSXA

It exceeded the limit of 1000 transactions (this address has 1960), I bumped it a little (but the result is higher server load, and it's on a crappy hardware).

[evershawn]

You never did anything for YAC except mining it with shitload of AWS-es (I guess it was them with a level of hashrate you had on dontmineme at times), when it was most profitable to do it and kept quiet collecting thousands of them when some of us were fighting against malicious fud here in it's worst hours, so good to see you departing from it but not really complaining as you did what you always planned to, you're just a bit disappointed someone didn't do more job for you to dump them at higher price, probably recently at 00064 as I see that big sell wall lost lot of his powe now . I hope it was you as it would mean you stopped the rise 2 days ago on your own just to sell it 20% cheaper, would be epic.

At just below 0005 they are in better hands now. I'm glad to see some at times big miners like you and fenican or few more that didn't felt it's necessary (and rightly so) to inform us about their trading activities and post-dump thoughts are out and the price is still in it's usual margins. That was always going to happen and market so far dealt with it pretty well.

I sense a lot of unnecessary hate in your post. Someone made a constructive post about YAC and you come in and just post a hate reply that seemed like a direct personal attack, nothing constructive at all here.

Take your meds dude. Your post would say you're jealous that someone knows how to mine better than you do...

[seleme]

You never did anything for YAC except mining it with shitload of AWS-es (I guess it was them with a level of hashrate you had on dontmineme at times), when it was most profitable to do it and kept quiet collecting thousands of them when some of us were fighting against malicious fud here in it's worst hours, so good to see you departing from it but not really complaining as you did what you always planned to, you're just a bit disappointed someone didn't do more job for you to dump them at higher price, probably recently at 00064 as I see that big sell wall lost lot of his powe now . I hope it was you as it would mean you stopped the rise 2 days ago on your own just to sell it 20% cheaper, would be epic.

At just below 0005 they are in better hands now. I'm glad to see some at times big miners like you and fenican or few more that didn't felt it's necessary (and rightly so) to inform us about their trading activities and post-dump thoughts are out and the price is still in it's usual margins. That was always going to happen and market so far dealt with it pretty well.

I sense a lot of unnecessary hate in your post. Someone made a constructive post about YAC and you come in and just post a hate reply that seemed like a direct personal attack, nothing constructive at all here.

Take your meds dude. Your post would say you're jealous that someone knows how to mine better than you do...

You can sense what you want and put the meds you know where ..

It doesn't have anything how someone mines otherwise I'd hate loads of people who are mining more than me as I mine pretty much nothing. It has more with things that yantis was one who had one of the biggest yac collections and never did anything in our attempts to build infrastructure around coin but was busy mining it despite him being someone who should be much more interested than guys with much less coins. And then after dumping has guts to come and complain about things that lack.. Well, if he activated himself some of his points, valid ones as not all of them are could be done and he, at least, could dump them for more value

I exchanged PMs with him after this and told him same things. He looks like a nice guy and not like some of twats that posted stuff around but still, even for his own good in some next mining adventure, he should know it's not the way things should be done. Windmaster, showed him how it should be done and how you react to protect your investment/property. I'm just sorry I'm such a tech noob and not being able to help him to do planned stuff faster. I am trying to do the best I can with level of capabilities I have, I even tried with selling first exclusively yac payment service few days ago, not because I wanted to work on it and bank from it (I'd sell it for BTC if I wanted that) but to make things moving a bit and help to build confidence and encourage more people to do it and you guess how many big miners went it my thread to support it, even with few words if not by buying it to help building that confidence in masses? Don't guess twice.

Anyway, he's gone, I'm very happy a dump from the guy who had big mining power at times didn't cause almost any damage on the market. Such stuff is always expected to happen and it looks like buying support absorbed his and some other dumps very, very well and it's better and healthier that those coins are in many different hands than in single individual one

YAC is the only stand-out coin made recently, just little bit of support of community and it has the chance to be one of the major ones out there. Unfortunately, community still hasn't understood that completely and some coins out there with absolute 0 innovation are outperforming yac on exchanges but this thread is proof that there are some positive movements and I'm optimist it can be done. I'm surely going to be here to help with what I am able to do.

[seleme]

New exchange https://www.cryptsy.com with yac trading too.

I'd wait for a bit though, it's pretty laggy and buggy still.

[leadnor]

Another n update now its so low. hardly getting accepted shares. lol

started at aroun 280kh/s now im on 80 kh/s

[2013-05-20 23:09:00] LONGPOLL detected new block
[2013-05-20 23:09:02] LONGPOLL detected new block
[2013-05-20 23:09:04] LONGPOLL detected new block
[2013-05-20 23:09:05] accepted: 104/127 (81.89%), 75.28 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2013-05-20 23:09:07] LONGPOLL detected new block
[2013-05-20 23:09:10] LONGPOLL detected new block
[2013-05-20 23:09:23] LONGPOLL detected new block
[2013-05-20 23:09:25] LONGPOLL detected new block
[2013-05-20 23:09:26] LONGPOLL detected new block
[2013-05-20 23:09:27] accepted: 105/128 (82.03%), 69.01 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2013-05-20 23:09:28] LONGPOLL detected new block
[2013-05-20 23:09:31] LONGPOLL detected new block
[2013-05-20 23:09:32] LONGPOLL detected new block
[2013-05-20 23:09:33] LONGPOLL detected new block
[2013-05-20 23:09:33] LONGPOLL detected new block
[2013-05-20 23:09:36] LONGPOLL detected new block
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[ralree]

Forked the client - now your stolen bitcoins go to a different address.

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[WindMaster]

I compiled a version of win64 from windmaster's git branch, if you have 64-bit windows installed, you can try it.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/hnindev/files/yacoin-qt-0.4.0.0-g32a928e-winx64.zip

Thanks for compiling up an interim Win 64-bit binary.  I was going to start looking into why the scrypt-jane library won't compile cleanly for 32-bit Windows using the mingw32 compiler as reported earlier in the thread but haven't gotten to it yet.

I'm almost ready to push changes to the repository to update the icon and graphics, and have been working on scripting up an NSIS-based installer (similar to InstallShield, but NSIS is open-source) for the Windows client.

[Eli0t]

Another n update now its so low. hardly getting accepted shares. lol

i seem to be getting the same amount of shares but at a slower hash rate, it was quite fun to mine at high hashrates on a CPU but now thats passed and the price is only goin down i feel this coin has been left in the cold while the next fashionable coin does the bter rollercoaster

[hanzac]

Thanks for compiling up an interim Win 64-bit binary.  I was going to start looking into why the scrypt-jane library won't compile cleanly for 32-bit Windows using the mingw32 compiler as reported earlier in the thread but haven't gotten to it yet.

I'm almost ready to push changes to the repository to update the icon and graphics, and have been working on scripting up an NSIS-based installer (similar to InstallShield, but NSIS is open-source) for the Windows client.

Yes, I also met the problem of the assembly code error. I just turned off some macro options for the SSE & AVX, to make it a plain generic scryp-jane impl.

In file scrypt-jane-portable-x86.h, comment out these parts:

   #if (defined(COMPILER_MSVC6PP_AND_LATER) || (defined(COMPILER_GCC) && (COMPILER_GCC >= 30000)))
      #define X86ASM_SSE
      #define X86ASM_SSE2
   #endif
   #if ((defined(COMPILER_MSVC) && (COMPILER_MSVC >= 1400)) || (defined(COMPILER_GCC) && (COMPILER_GCC >= 40102)))
      #define X86ASM_SSSE3
   #endif
   #if ((defined(COMPILER_GCC) && (COMPILER_GCC >= 40400)))
      #define X86ASM_AVX
   #endif

But if you want to make the client also has optimized mining capability, need to try to configure CPU_X86_FORCE_INTRINSICS. (gcc intrinsics are always well-organized c code.)