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Author Topic: [ANN][YAC] YACoin ongoing development  (Read 378911 times)
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May 29, 2013, 07:15:47 PM
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Umm so I have a question.
Why is the nfactor going up so quickly? And I mean if the point is to make GPU mining impossible then sure do it, but what I don't get is how the reward has only BARELY gone up since the difficulty changed from 9 to (currently) 1.82. I mean hell I would be happy if we were mining transaction fees cause really PPC's idea of destroying inflation via removing transaction fees only worked because it had a huge supply of coins being created with every block where as YAC has like 20. I mean is there like a logarithmic decline between the initial 100 we started mining and the 22.6 we are grinding for now? Furthermore was the difficulty/reward changed at all when it was copied from novacoin? I mean the effects of the nfactor don't seem to be taken into account. I know YAC is trying to do the fast confirmation thing but it really doesnt suit the coin, given that the speed of everyone mining gets halved nearly every couple of days doesn't seem to affect the difficulty. I don't know maybe I am just upset that POS takes so long even though the actual time between blocks is so fast. I mean for fuck's sake could we get one POS coin that allows a normal person to collect interest on their hard earned coins without having to sit on them for nearly 2 months, because I doubt anyone made their entire fortune in the first month, well except for those guys who were lucky enough to solomine with 100 yac rewards when the n factor didnt make a difference.  Cry
To be honest I don't know what I want, I would really just be happy seeing POS work properly and not take so long to kick in because it really is all the same. I would prefer that POS worked after a week but the staked coins took like from 2-4 weeks to mature or something like that.
I just hope that YAC doesn't die of auto-erotic asphyxiatioN (factor) cause I like what it stood for, the altcoin for the everyman, where the sweat on one's brow could be used to cool one's overheating CPU while simultaneously leveraging the GPU for bitcoin mining.
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May 29, 2013, 07:39:47 PM
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Happy N increase everyone!

*pulls a party popper*
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May 29, 2013, 07:54:18 PM
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the altcoin for the everyman, where the sweat on one's brow could be used to cool one's overheating CPU

I like that line. Sigged.

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May 29, 2013, 08:15:48 PM
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Hey guys, so i got YAC QT working on OSX, if anyone wants to try it out the dl is in my sig.

If there is any other ALT coin you want a mac QT for, let me know.

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May 29, 2013, 10:53:12 PM
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Could someone put up the current network hash rate?

Thanks.

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May 30, 2013, 12:52:10 AM
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It worked guys  Grin

I was half harsh sending Bter message yesterday and that bad coin description is gone while fee is lowered to standard 0.2%

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May 30, 2013, 12:58:03 AM
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It worked guys  Grin

I was half harsh sending Bter message yesterday and that bad coin description is gone while fee is lowered to standard 0.2%

Great! Thank you for your contribution. Now YAC/BTC on BTer has risen significantly.

It would be better if we could get YAC on BTC-e.
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May 30, 2013, 01:03:19 AM
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I was not alone, I've seen someone posted he sent them mail few days ago so I decided to add to it. I was pretty resolute though, as always  Grin

BTC-e, with time... what happened with ftc and cnc probably stopped the entrance for new coins and they  were pretty right not adding any of new ones.. but if YAC continues to be as stable as it is, they'll change their minds at some time.

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May 30, 2013, 02:36:37 AM
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Also wrote a email earlier today. Not long after they removed the warning. Great job everyone. As a celebration I bought a couple of thousand coins.
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May 30, 2013, 06:57:46 AM
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yacoin.org is offering windows client that does not download blockchain at this moment and just gives errors.

 I am not sure who is running that site but we need to get the new client on there if we want people to work with this coin.

 

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May 30, 2013, 07:10:11 AM
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yacoin.org is offering windows client that does not download blockchain at this moment and just gives errors.

 I am not sure who is running that site but we need to get the new client on there if we want people to work with this coin.

You mean the message about old checkpoint? It's harmless.

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May 30, 2013, 05:24:30 PM
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is this development still going? any response from pocopoco? Where is yacoin going?

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May 30, 2013, 05:35:28 PM
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is this development still going? any response from pocopoco? Where is yacoin going?
Nah, he vanished just like Satoshi. Cheesy
YAC is going to the moon and beyond!  Grin

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May 30, 2013, 06:02:16 PM
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is this development still going? any response from pocopoco? Where is yacoin going?

WindMaster has taken the lead on development, and I have contributed a tiny bit as well. If any of you are devs, or can contribute in other ways, please get involved! Let's make YACoin as good and stable as Bitcoin.
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May 30, 2013, 06:26:09 PM
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Anyone know the market cap of yac?
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May 30, 2013, 06:28:39 PM
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Anyone know the market cap of yac?

3M coins @ ~0.0004 BTC/YAC = 1200 BTC or $156000

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May 30, 2013, 06:31:19 PM
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Anyone know the market cap of yac?

3M coins @ ~0.0004 BTC/YAC = 1200 BTC or $156000

Thanks Smiley
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May 30, 2013, 06:38:01 PM
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you cant atm...

yac uses scrypt-jane, and is/was designed to be cpu mined only..

If you could, it would be the end of yac, as its core ethos would be pointless

If you think a GPU miner can't be coded for it, you're mistaken.  Both chacha20 and keccak have faster throughputs than salsa20 and sha2-256, and the value of N right now should provide extremely good GPU performance.

Except N will change _tomorrow_ and then what?

Doesn't matter -- because of the TMTO tradeoff and higher GPU memory bandwidth I doubt you'll see a point where GPU implementation is slower.  Once you have the GPU implementation adjusting it for higher N values will be trivial.

Is TacoTime right about this?  Why are people saying GPU mining will become impossible in august?

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Is TacoTime right about this?  Why are people saying GPU mining will become impossible in august?
Current GPU implementations stop working at Nfactor value due to be in august. IMHO it's unlikely that this can't be fixed. However, GPUs should be much slower by then, only slightly faster than a CPU (AFAIK).

EDIT: see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=206577.msg2162620#msg2162620
also, cpu vs gpu speed comparison at various N: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=206577.msg2241855#msg2241855

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May 30, 2013, 06:47:03 PM
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is this development still going? any response from pocopoco? Where is yacoin going?

WindMaster has taken the lead on development, and I have contributed a tiny bit as well. If any of you are devs, or can contribute in other ways, please get involved! Let's make YACoin as good and stable as Bitcoin.

This sounds great, thank you guys for the work to keep this coin going.

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