Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread.

[timeshifter]

I ordered ten more mobos.

Five six slot
Five eight slot plus four riser

Should come on fri the 5th or Monday the 8th .   I was looking at the case for sale and I am pretty sure it needs to use a lot of short cards.  Not sure I need it.

Are any of the 8 slot for sale?  I'd like to get two.  Can you recommend where I can buy two if you're not selling?

no commitment on me selling them.

last set of sales  I priced at a very low price and 1 rma killed all profit.

1 sample direct from Sidonia of sales@letine.com   is about 180  to USA use paypal and you are covered.


amazon has it for 275

https://www.amazon.com/Mining-Motherboard-Graphics-LGA1151-D8P-D4/dp/B078NTX8T6/ref=sr_1_2?


I was selling mine at 170 and making 10 bucks

I don't think I will sell that low.

If I sell  any of them at all  it will not be  2 of the 8+4  for 340.

I may do

1 six plus
1 eight/four        as a package   with no returns or rmas  I will pretest boards  and ship to USA only.

the J1800 six slot does come with a built in cpu.

No sales or pms  until they come.

I also may  send each pair  with ram and with  usb sticks for smos nvidia.

2 board Package deals only  fully pretested loaded with nvidia smos  and an email of your choice

This is v1 of the 8/4 board?  Is the v2 worth waiting for / available?  Not interested in the 6 slot board.

Also, I initially dismissed the Amazon listing.  ETA was 1/23 - 2/13.  One review for the seller with 1 star, tracking number didn't match, don't know if the guy ever got his order.  BUT, for $8.99 it says delivery 1/3 - 1/5.

[1715087097]

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[rawbert]

Meanwhile we're at 154 pages on this thread, heh! Might be time to think about the "Seventh altcoin thread"?

I'm so annoyed I have literally ran out of space in my house. Mining is obviously going very, very strong currently and I can't see it ending any time soon (as opposed to 2014...). New paradigm?

New Years day  will be thread 7


Not sure what to think about 2018.

way way way better then 2017 ?
way way way worse then 2017 ?
somewhere in the middle of that ?


I am mining for now.

Happy to report nicehash paid my 0.1 for this account's current mining.

https://www.nicehash.com/miner/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

Happy New Year to all of you!
Thanks for sharing all the great info and special thanks to you Phil.

2017 was a very good year and I think 2018 will be even better.

I got some big plans for 2018.. expanding mining.. buying commercial land and building dedicated mining warehouses, maybe adding solar panels too, rig hosting, cloud mining.. found cheap commercial power here in Florida at 4.6 cents, net metering also available. I'm still in the research phase but I see great potential for this.

[GabryRox]

Meanwhile we're at 154 pages on this thread, heh! Might be time to think about the "Seventh altcoin thread"?

I'm so annoyed I have literally ran out of space in my house. Mining is obviously going very, very strong currently and I can't see it ending any time soon (as opposed to 2014...). New paradigm?

New Years day  will be thread 7


Not sure what to think about 2018.

way way way better then 2017 ?
way way way worse then 2017 ?
somewhere in the middle of that ?


I am mining for now.

Happy to report nicehash paid my 0.1 for this account's current mining.

https://www.nicehash.com/miner/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

I tend to think '18 will be a good year for mining and crypto in general... maybe not to the degree of increases we saw in '17 but after all, many coins enjoyed 100x explosions this year so very hard to duplicate that.  I don't think we will see a sustained slump... maybe your various corrections after big rising periods... but one major thing crypto did in '17 was show its resiliency!  So many things happened that could have severely hurt the market (China crackdown, hacks, forks, etc), but for every dip, BTC and most alts came back even stronger!

One cheap alt i bought into lately in KIN... that's the native token used by the KIK messenger app. For a long time it was hovering at 1/100th of a penny per coin but is starting what will likely be a nice upward trend. Seems to me that with such a huge user base, this coin is likely to enjoy huge gains in '18 but time will tell.  Also looking into BitBean a bit, which is a POS coin. I originally bought in cuz it was cheap (before I knew it was POS) but it looks like it pays out about 4-5% per month if staking, so need to look into that more.

Probably the other big good thing going right now that maybe not everyone knows about is BURST. I have actually been very critical of it most of the year... mainly due to some bad players that heavily influence that community... but this recent price bump (up to .075 at one point but now seems pretty stable at .05) has gotten me re-invigorated.  if it even holds 5 cents it will be very profitable. I had about 60TB mining it but just got 50TB more in HDDs.  The one crappy thing is that it takes forever to properly plot those HDDs. Took me almost 3 days to plot my first new 8TB drive. But, even at the 5 cent mark, it's about 2-3 months to fully ROI cost of 8 or 6 TB drives, so to me, really a no-brainer.

Good luck to everyone in the new year!

[GabryRox]

For those running Vega rigs (preferably with 56's), I wanted to ask your recommendations on settings.

I have built my 5th rig and will be firing it up shortly to install windows. I only have 3 Vega 56's (2 Gigabyte and 1 MSI - all original blower/ref models), but want to get them mining CryptoNote while i wait for more Vega's to come available.

My question is this... aside from any bios mods (which i don't want to try quite yet), what are the recommended settings (clock, core, etc) for optimizing these things (best hash per watt ratio)?

Also, do the most current AMD drivers work well or is there a previous version that is better?

[zer0k]

Phil...or anyone in this thread

Can someone please message me privately if they have a reliable source for getting bulk 1080 ti founders cards.
I need another 12 or 18 cards to build some new rigs.

cheers

[RealSwissMiner]

One question for the experts here - once you hit ROI on your gear (kind of the goal you are going for from the start and now it needs something new) are you paying out some of your coins as fiat on your bank account or do you just keep reinvesting?
I was thinking to start withdrawing coins to cover the monthly electricity costs and maybe new cards but if 2018 will be like 2017 it would be rather stupid to cash out any decent project/coin right now?

Really interested on how you guys handle this.

[BSAlex]

I tried a power line adapter for the basement - it does work in the basement but somehow it makes the entire internet connection unstable which is weird and not productive.

I resolved the same issue isolating powerline adapter in a separate vlan. I feel that powerline do not like broadcasts.

[RealSwissMiner]

I tried a power line adapter for the basement - it does work in the basement but somehow it makes the entire internet connection unstable which is weird and not productive.

I resolved the same issue isolating powerline adapter in a separate vlan. I feel that powerline do not like broadcasts.

But i got the devices without wlan do how can it interfere with my existing wlan? Also I’m using a switch for my rigs so it should not affect the regular hardwired connection. I was so glad it works in the basement:(

[BSAlex]

I tried a power line adapter for the basement - it does work in the basement but somehow it makes the entire internet connection unstable which is weird and not productive.

I resolved the same issue isolating powerline adapter in a separate vlan. I feel that powerline do not like broadcasts.

But i got the devices without wlan do how can it interfere with my existing wlan? Also I’m using a switch for my rigs so it should not affect the regular hardwired connection. I was so glad it works in the basement:(

I plugged powerline adapter directly to core switch and isolated the port to separate vlan. I also was happy, and once more happy when I figured how to isolate problems :-)

[QuintLeo]

Meanwhile we're at 154 pages on this thread, heh! Might be time to think about the "Seventh altcoin thread"?

I'm so annoyed I have literally ran out of space in my house. Mining is obviously going very, very strong currently and I can't see it ending any time soon (as opposed to 2014...). New paradigm?

 Get a bigger house, or a "mining cave".

 9-0

[QuintLeo]

One question for the experts here - once you hit ROI on your gear (kind of the goal you are going for from the start and now it needs something new) are you paying out some of your coins as fiat on your bank account or do you just keep reinvesting?
I was thinking to start withdrawing coins to cover the monthly electricity costs and maybe new cards but if 2018 will be like 2017 it would be rather stupid to cash out any decent project/coin right now?

Really interested on how you guys handle this.

 I pull enough coin to pay the bills as fiat, the rest gets reinvested into more hardware to grow the farm.

 This might change at some point in 2018 as I'm starting to see the limits of my infrastructure - worst case I shut down the A2 farm to free up some additional power for the GPU side, though I've also been thinking about replacing the A2s with 841s or something.


 Anyone else notice that NVidia "good mining" cards seem to be in much worse shortage right now than AMD "good mining" cards?

 Even the 1080 ti is getting noticeably short - which did NOT happen during the big Spring mining surge.


 I have to wonder if NVidia is ramping down Pascal production in favor of ramping up Volta production so they have a "good supply of cards" on hand when Volta gets announced and goes on sale (possibly Feb, probably March timeframe, per a comment an EVGA employee dropped somewhere in their forums).

[Last of the V8s]

Thank you, Philip, and all the contributors here. Been a good year mining, mostly down to following along these threads.

[RealSwissMiner]

One question for the experts here - once you hit ROI on your gear (kind of the goal you are going for from the start and now it needs something new) are you paying out some of your coins as fiat on your bank account or do you just keep reinvesting?
I was thinking to start withdrawing coins to cover the monthly electricity costs and maybe new cards but if 2018 will be like 2017 it would be rather stupid to cash out any decent project/coin right now?

Really interested on how you guys handle this.

 I pull enough coin to pay the bills as fiat, the rest gets reinvested into more hardware to grow the farm.

 This might change at some point in 2018 as I'm starting to see the limits of my infrastructure - worst case I shut down the A2 farm to free up some additional power for the GPU side, though I've also been thinking about replacing the A2s with 841s or something.


 Anyone else notice that NVidia "good mining" cards seem to be in much worse shortage right now than AMD "good mining" cards?

 Even the 1080 ti is getting noticeably short - which did NOT happen during the big Spring mining surge.


 I have to wonder if NVidia is ramping down Pascal production in favor of ramping up Volta production so they have a "good supply of cards" on hand when Volta gets announced and goes on sale (possibly Feb, probably March timeframe, per a comment an EVGA employee dropped somewhere in their forums).

Interesting you mention Volta. Assuming you hit the power limits and Volta is out, will you replace older cards to sell the older cards or just add Volta cards and keep the “ROI cards” to further milk them?

[JaredKaragen]

I've been milking two GTX960 and a GTX980 for quite some time now...

I bought the GTX980 when it was first out;  cost me ~750; and mining on nvidia wasn't really that profitable then.... I think you got maybe 14Mh out of Lyra2v2 back then?  But it did end up reaching ROI at current active market rates as time moved on.  Most of the earnings were spent to pay the cost of living in '15 and prior.

I still keep those three cards in a trio machine;  They happily hash away at default settings around ~500-580w depending on algo.  The only things I have done are:  re-paste all cards twice now, and replace both seized cooling fans on the GTX980 as I ran them at 100% due to the low airflow of where I was running it originally and after.

Currently, I am seeing ~0.008/mo on those 3 cards....  Which isn't too shabby at all.   They will get moved to the secondary location to die; or until sold (out of my home) when I get my onda D8P board populated with eight 10 series cards soon.....   Waiting on a few cars to sell to make that happen......

So yeah;  It so far, has been extremely profitable to keep my old junk online.  7 series and prior cards are electricity hogs.  I will only break those back out once I start running a generator here full-time to run a large farm at home off the grid.  I have ~25Kw of generator here.... waiting to be used.....

The 980 has paid for itself more than 3 times now.  [figuring its value at each instance] When it paid itself off the first time, it was still worth $400.   The second time, it was worth $250.  The third;  $250....   and guess what its still worth.....

The 960's, I took each in instead of a payment of $120; a few hours of physical labor..   Totally worth.   I haven't even cared to calc ROI on them..... who cares at that price... lol

[martyroz]

I'm so annoyed I have literally ran out of space in my house. Mining is obviously going very, very strong currently and I can't see it ending any time soon (as opposed to 2014...). New paradigm?

Yeah... I'm at 5kw across two 16A breakers. I've had to ban the wife from using hair dryer / vacuum cleaner on certain outlets. We have a third 16A breaker purely for kitchen outlets (kettle, toaster, etc) that I could probably squeeze a 1kw rig onto. But short of that, we are pretty much maxed out.

My main CB is 63A but there is a lot going on behind that - 15A air conditioner, 5A oven etc. I'm not sure what else I can hook up without a serious meter box upgrade.

[martyroz]

One question for the experts here - once you hit ROI on your gear (kind of the goal you are going for from the start and now it needs something new) are you paying out some of your coins as fiat on your bank account or do you just keep reinvesting?
I was thinking to start withdrawing coins to cover the monthly electricity costs and maybe new cards but if 2018 will be like 2017 it would be rather stupid to cash out any decent project/coin right now?

Really interested on how you guys handle this.

I'm by no means an expert, however, when I first hit 100% ROI, it was a proof of concept for me. It gave me the confidence to expand by a factor of seven. I would have preferred differently, but I cashed out $20k of crypto for that expansion.

It's a good feeling being 100% 'paid' and seeing $150 coming in every day. I always want more rigs though - that doesn't seem to abate.

[philipma1957]

I reached the point  of buying shit like 10 mobos  from alibaba having no room.

Can't get cards easy at the moment.

I am capped out  in the garage (not)  as it is fucking freezing cold in NJ,USA

 I could do 20 more cards  on 3 of the new mobos.

Not quite sure what to do.

I am selling coins on coinbase  at 13000 to lower my  schedule D bill.

I moved them in at 16,000  and sold them at 13,000  which helps to lower my short term gains earlier in the year.

I never thought coins would get this good.

[VyprBTC]

I reached the point  of buying shit like 10 mobos  from alibaba having no room.

Can't get cards easy at the moment.

I am capped out  in the garage (not)  as it is fucking freezing cold in NJ,USA

 I could do 20 more cards  on 3 of the new mobos.

Not quite sure what to do.

I am selling coins on coinbase  at 13000 to lower my  schedule D bill.

I moved them in at 16,000  and sold them at 13,000  which helps to lower my short term gains earlier in the year.

I never thought coins would get this good.

That's crazy Phil, I'm actually going to buying a few more BTC if it hits 12k again, I won't be selling any time soon. Going to dump the rest of my Class A Google Stocks Tues and have it sitting ready to buy BTC

[GabryRox]

I'm so annoyed I have literally ran out of space in my house. Mining is obviously going very, very strong currently and I can't see it ending any time soon (as opposed to 2014...). New paradigm?

Yeah... I'm at 5kw across two 16A breakers. I've had to ban the wife from using hair dryer / vacuum cleaner on certain outlets. We have a third 16A breaker purely for kitchen outlets (kettle, toaster, etc) that I could probably squeeze a 1kw rig onto. But short of that, we are pretty much maxed out.

My main CB is 63A but there is a lot going on behind that - 15A air conditioner, 5A oven etc. I'm not sure what else I can hook up without a serious meter box upgrade.

So, this has me very curious about how much rig wattage my house can take. I have 4 rx 470 rigs pulling between 700-900 watts each in 4 different rooms but i am building a Vega rig to double up in 1 room... it will only have 3 Vega 56's to start so not horribly worried about total wattage in that room, at least not yet.

The thing is, I have no idea about electricity capabilities... are there any general guidelines to go by?  My house is about 13 years old, 1700 SF, 2 story.  Like, how much wattage per outlet? per breaker? per house?  I probably need to hire an electrician for consulting as I would really like to add a 5x Vega and 6x 1070ti rig to my existing setup.  But, any general tips would be appreciated.

[P00P135]

I'm at 5kw across two 16A breakers. I've had to ban the wife from using hair dryer / vacuum cleaner on certain outlets.

LOL might be time to build a shed or find a small place to house your rigs and wire it up all proper.