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December 05, 2017, 09:04:49 AM
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@Citronick, how did you do the redundant internet cabling? Was wondering if it can be done with regular network switches or require those more expensive "managed" switches.

Because I've rented another shoplot beside mine for another $250 usd/month and can do redundancy now. Another 3 phase, 60A, 240V to play with at 7.5cents/kwh

For the expansion I'll use these 8 gpu riserless solutions: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/mining-machine-ETH-machine-4u-8xgpu_60708486305.html

It's rather inexpensive compared to the nightmare called riser troubleshooting lol.

I'm going full 1070ti for expansion and selling my vegas (pm me if interested), they just take too much effort to deal with. Probably I'll start moving in rigs by Jan. Mine for a couple of months and add volta.

I've also seen some huge warehouses in Kuching. 45000sqft, supports 1000 KW of power, but will cost $60K USD to setup the place, rental deposit ,wiring and ventilation, and cost $5K usd a month rent. Roughly 5.3 cents/kwh. Pretty good value, but I don't have capital for this scale.


2 x ISPs - 2 subnets - plenty of IPs to go around there. Also you can assign static DHCP to each rig using mac address.

If you want to rent me half of that warehouse... I don't mind cost-sharing with you. Good excuse for me to fly up there for laksa.

@marvell - one thing I learnt about mining this past 2 years is avoid dual mining like a plaque, your GPUs will last longer that way. Yes, you will earn a bit more, but if you take a closer look on the revenue you get from mining that 2nd coin.... its not worth it at the expense of more heat, more power and cut down the life of your GPUs.

@kemo - interesting thought - did not cross my mind to do that way - however, i will use whatever power allocation/format the mobo was designed for -- this will reduce any risks or surprises in future. I use the 6pin to 2 x 6+2pin splitter to support the 2x8pin cards... as long as you dont overload those cables (not exceeding 300w-350w) it should be ok.

@ VyprBTC - my GPU farm is standardized on smOS Linux. Some NVIDIA rigs use W10 and nvOC. My dashboard eventually is the NH dashboard - all in one reporting - including your daily tally$,  rig details etc.
Btw, if you have NVIDIA cards... why mine cryptonite? Those cards are the boss in Equihash by far vs AMD. All my AMDs are Cryptonite mining with sgminer-gm-v5.5.5.8-NH -- overall a bit slower but rock stable, pool failover support and best of all no dev fees. Until smOS comes in with Linux versions of stak-amd, cast-amd or dstm-amd with Nicehash support - I will stick to the proven workshorse like sgminer-gm (... just like Genesis Mining  Grin)


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@kemo - interesting thought - did not cross my mind to do that way - however, i will use whatever power allocation/format the mobo was designed for -- this will reduce any risks or surprises in future. I use the 6pin to 2 x 6+2pin splitter to support the 2x8pin cards... as long as you dont overload those cables (not exceeding 300w-350w) it should be ok.

Most of this boards are designed for 1060GTX GPUs , my RX580 8GB rigs already using more than 1300W from the wall when dual mining  , if we assumed that they are using 400-500W from the PCI slots then there is more than 800W are just passing through the board from input point to output point , that is extra heat on the PCB and extra stress on the low quality connectors .

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That is correct. Kuching, Malaysia, the land of oversupplied real estate. $250 usd = 1600sqft. In Hong Kong (where I live), the same space cost 15-20x more lol.

 Very nice - best I've seen anywhere in the US in the last decade was $1000 for a 3000 square foot "mostly warehouse with a small office space" setup I had in the Indianapolis area for a while, unless the place was HUGE (10,000+ feet).

 $500 for 1000 feet with water/sewer/garbage included where I'm at now though is good for this area, expecially with the "cooling vents/louvers" built into the building front-and-back of the space, the "gable-type exhaust fan" that was already installed in the space (but in a bad spot, it'll work better as another intake), and I'm on the end of the building with 2 A/C units mounted in the "side" wall (one I converted to additional "vent" area with prior landlord approval but in a way I can easily put it back the way it was when I move out).

 I suspect part of the reason it's as low as it is would be the ACTIVE railroad track (single-track BNSF main-line) the property backs up onto - but I grew up almost as close to a dual-track Penn Central line so the train noise is no big deal to me.

 A standard 192.168.x.x privatenet offers ballpark 64,000 usable addresses - I don't think even BITMAIN needs much more than that, though I'd guess they probably use a 10.x.x.x privatenet "just in case".
 For example, I run my A2 miners on the 192.168.2.x subnet, most of the rest of my machines on the 192.168.100.x subnet, I USED to run a bunch of machines on 192.168.10.x via 10Base2 coax, I USED to run my S5 farm (and the SP20) on the 192.168.5.x subnet, and I have a DHCP address space set up for "short term usage on new machines I've not had the chance to fully configure yet" on 192.168.254.x
 My mining farm area though is starting to subdivide - each 6-rig "rack/shelf" unit will have it's own 192.168.100.xx1 through .xx6 address set, moving probably to 192.168.0.xx0 range if I get big enough eventually - makes it easy when I look at remote monitoring to say "ok, that IP is down, it is located THERE".
 I already had that implimented on the previous shelving units, each "row" with it's own .xx# and the # being the rig IN the row from top to bottom.
 I'm SURE this is not a new idea, though I've not seen it in actual usage anywhere that I can remember.

 It's NOT a good idea to push 300+ watts through a "dual PCI-E" type cable in a lot of cases - check the gauge of the wiring first, some of them are only intended to handle the 225 "8-pin + 6-pin" that are attached to them with VERY LITTLE left over if at all.
 EVGA and Seasonic cables should be OK - EVGA uses fairly heavy duty wiring on it's VGA cables for the G2/P2/T2 series (and I think they carried the cables over to the G3 series) and Seasonic tends to "double up" on the wires on their dual-connector cables.




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Anybody had any experience or thoughts on the Colorful Igame Vulcan 1080ti?
Tossing up between that, the MSI duke, and the EVGA SC2

 I have no experience with the Duke, but IIRC it needs 2 x 8-pin connectors which makes it harder to run a lot of them in one rig.

 EVGA FTX is the same way as I recall.

 SC2 is 8-pin plus 6-pin, has good cooling (though not quite up to my Aorus cards which are ALSO 2 x 8-pin), and runs quite well - also seems to be the highest-performance card that does NOT need 2 x 8-pin connectors at this point, though that's splitting very fine hairs.


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That is correct. Kuching, Malaysia, the land of oversupplied real estate. $250 usd = 1600sqft. In Hong Kong (where I live), the same space cost 15-20x more lol.

 Very nice - best I've seen anywhere in the US in the last decade was $1000 for a 3000 square foot "mostly warehouse with a small office space" setup I had in the Indianapolis area for a while, unless the place was HUGE (10,000+ feet).

 $500 for 1000 feet with water/sewer/garbage included where I'm at now though is good for this area, expecially with the "cooling vents/louvers" built into the building front-and-back of the space, the "gable-type exhaust fan" that was already installed in the space (but in a bad spot, it'll work better as another intake), and I'm on the end of the building with 2 A/C units mounted in the "side" wall (one I converted to additional "vent" area with prior landlord approval but in a way I can easily put it back the way it was when I move out).

 I suspect part of the reason it's as low as it is would be the ACTIVE railroad track (single-track BNSF main-line) the property backs up onto - but I grew up almost as close to a dual-track Penn Central line so the train noise is no big deal to me.

 A standard 192.168.x.x privatenet offers ballpark 64,000 usable addresses - I don't think even BITMAIN needs much more than that, though I'd guess they probably use a 10.x.x.x privatenet "just in case".
 For example, I run my A2 miners on the 192.168.2.x subnet, most of the rest of my machines on the 192.168.100.x subnet, I USED to run a bunch of machines on 192.168.10.x via 10Base2 coax, I USED to run my S5 farm (and the SP20) on the 192.168.5.x subnet, and I have a DHCP address space set up for "short term usage on new machines I've not had the chance to fully configure yet" on 192.168.254.x
 My mining farm area though is starting to subdivide - each 6-rig "rack/shelf" unit will have it's own 192.168.100.xx1 through .xx6 address set, moving probably to 192.168.0.xx0 range if I get big enough eventually - makes it easy when I look at remote monitoring to say "ok, that IP is down, it is located THERE".
 I already had that implimented on the previous shelving units, each "row" with it's own .xx# and the # being the rig IN the row from top to bottom.
 I'm SURE this is not a new idea, though I've not seen it in actual usage anywhere that I can remember.

 It's NOT a good idea to push 300+ watts through a "dual PCI-E" type cable in a lot of cases - check the gauge of the wiring first, some of them are only intended to handle the 225 "8-pin + 6-pin" that are attached to them with VERY LITTLE left over if at all.
 EVGA and Seasonic cables should be OK - EVGA uses fairly heavy duty wiring on it's VGA cables for the G2/P2/T2 series (and I think they carried the cables over to the G3 series) and Seasonic tends to "double up" on the wires on their dual-connector cables.





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do you use differnt interfaces for each subnet on your router or something? or is it on the switch level?   how do you set it you can access all  the subnets from you monitoring machine?

im up to 70 machines here btw asics and rigs and already stsrting to worry that my 192.168.0.xxx 256 addresss could be a long term issue.

I also use static addresses set up on the subnet on the sonicwall router since they are all on interface x0
i do have another isp on interface x1 which i use to load balance and failover

all this network stuff is a pain to figure out but subnetting maybe on individual switches would be cool but i like setting up all the statics from one machine

@citronic yeah i get the relaiblity deal but for smaller ops like mine 10k extra lbr mined a day is like $50 a day
that pays a large chunk of my electricity expenses I kinda need it lol
 

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December 05, 2017, 12:02:04 PM
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It will be in the farm in a few hours - the farm will be the real test if this guy survives.

The farm runs 34-35c on normal days and can get higher during hotter days.

The miner in question is the black box behind the 8 x R7-370 on a "k17" China mobo.

Very cool - definitely interested to find out as well!

Office space or warehouse? Also curious how are you ventilating the space?

my generic k17  seems good   does 7  1070ti's and 1 1070   all  evga hybrid  water cooled smos about 1000 watts  using a delta 2400 watt server

 



Nice settings Phil!


How do you have the rig set up? Curious how you have the hybrid fans mounted!

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Phil - I am getting the newer K35 8-slots server PSU powered mobo too. Improved version of K17 but with no CPU and no RAM -- but they said that this K35 uses only DDR3 notebook sodimm. Got one for you too  Grin

Nice I will test it out.

Okay  of the  cards + gear on hand

buysolar - solar array   13  1070s plus 1080 tis
ira's office                     6   three 2 card pc's all  1080tis
my garage                   24   one 8 card one 6 card two 3 card one 4 card

so 43 cards mining.

one asus turbo 1080 ti fan died  I did a fix  will photo it
one msi aero   1080 ti won't post  rma status
one evga 1070 hybrid  pump went bad rma status

all onda boards  the b250  8 slots 4 riser  21 total posted  and work  so it is reliable  so far.

the onda  b1800  with a built in  cpu  six slot works  but seems flaky

the generic  k17  works well  at about 1000 watts  using a delta

the ryzen  1800x using water cooling  is going to pay off  it is doing about 1.50 a day  using only 60 watts above   when the board mines with 3 gpus

my fun little moonlander usb sticks  are solo mining ltc+doge  at http://ltc.tbdice.org/users.htm


LWdix...uDYH8   Self   4.33M / 0.004%   3.78M / 0.247%   4.05M / 0.463%   3.53M / 3.200%   721K / 4.583%   14.92760

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stratum+tcp://tbdice.org:13333 -u LWdix5Rxpqmzk6w7xjZjq7Vvm9TBquDYH8 -p diff_256:D5TajjV9SXL7uWN97L5K8yUrjRcE1UrTtX -S MLD:all --set MLD:clock=500


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December 05, 2017, 12:03:03 PM
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Thought I'd share my experience with the D1800 so far...

Installed everything, installed Win10, 6 Vega 56's...

Windows was very, very "sticky". Even completely unresponsive at times. Start button wasn't working, had to right-click after every left click to make apps start. Very very weird. Anyway managed to get 6 Vegas to mine, albeit only at approx 1300 H/s cryptonight.

So I kept going with the tweaking and thought I'd give some soft power tables a go. Mistake. I obviously didn't use the right one and essentially booted to a completely garbled up screen. Nothing else for me to do but re-install Windows.

Once that was done, I decided this Windows crappiness had to be linked to the mobo... so I went to search for an updated bios. So there's me browsing on the Chinese ONDA site looking for the right bios for my board.

Unfortunately I didn't get the right one.
After flashing, no beep, no post.
After removing the GPUs, board battery, clearing CMOS I managed to get it to beep again. Still no picture though. At this stage I was ready to send the mobo back. But I had an idea. There was another bios on that Chinese website. I had recently read somewhere here that the D1800 was now shipping a rev.2 of the board... So I linked two and two together in my little brain. I had just flashed the bios for the rev.2 onto my 1.00 board. Sad

This however gave me hopes that my mobo might not be totally bricked after all. So I went on and looked for the correct bios file (yep, on the same Onda Chinese website). It ended with -101 instead of -201. Copied that file onto the bootable usb stick, disconnected the SSD and booted the Onda. I then let it boot, waited a couple of minutes and then typed the flashing command blindly.

A minute later, the board shuts off (as expected, since the last command within the .bat file was "shutdown").

So I then powered it back on and - oh miracle - beep and post! Cheesy

Needless to say I was pretty happy. Oh and Windows isn't sticky and unresponsive anymore. I've now created a system restore point. Tonight I'll proceed with the installation of the Vega's.

Moral of the long story: Folks, be careful when you download Chinese files! Cheesy


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December 05, 2017, 12:12:52 PM
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So I kept going with the tweaking and thought I'd give some soft power tables a go. Mistake. I obviously didn't use the right one and essentially booted to a completely garbled up screen. Nothing else for me to do but re-install Windows.


This can happen for any old reason.
I had a stable miner, 4 * Vega56 at 1950H/s each.
I shut it down to move to a permanent position - it didn't survive the 10 metre journey and had a mashed screen on windows login.

So back into the lab and back to square one. The next time I just logged in remotely from it's permanent position to set everything up so I didn't have to unplug and move it Wink

I know the day is coming where I have to put it back on the operating table... so far 56hrs mining without crashing! happy.
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@Citronick, how did you do the redundant internet cabling? Was wondering if it can be done with regular network switches or require those more expensive "managed" switches.

Because I've rented another shoplot beside mine for another $250 usd/month and can do redundancy now. Another 3 phase, 60A, 240V to play with at 7.5cents/kwh

For the expansion I'll use these 8 gpu riserless solutions: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/mining-machine-ETH-machine-4u-8xgpu_60708486305.html

It's rather inexpensive compared to the nightmare called riser troubleshooting lol.


I'm going full 1070ti for expansion and selling my vegas (pm me if interested), they just take too much effort to deal with. Probably I'll start moving in rigs by Jan. Mine for a couple of months and add volta.


I've also seen some huge warehouses in Kuching. 45000sqft, supports 1000 KW of power, but will cost $60K USD to setup the place, rental deposit ,wiring and ventilation, and cost $5K usd a month rent. Roughly 5.3 cents/kwh. Pretty good value, but I don't have capital for this scale.




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So I kept going with the tweaking and thought I'd give some soft power tables a go. Mistake. I obviously didn't use the right one and essentially booted to a completely garbled up screen. Nothing else for me to do but re-install Windows.


This can happen for any old reason.
I had a stable miner, 4 * Vega56 at 1950H/s each.
I shut it down to move to a permanent position - it didn't survive the 10 metre journey and had a mashed screen on windows login.

So back into the lab and back to square one. The next time I just logged in remotely from it's permanent position to set everything up so I didn't have to unplug and move it Wink

I know the day is coming where I have to put it back on the operating table... so far 56hrs mining without crashing! happy.

had a 2 card  2 1080 tis on nvoc mining  zec at nicehash

moved them to one of the 8 card boards.
the msi is now rma's  won't post  and can no longer be detected
the asus fan failed I slapped a fan on it and will waterblock this card down the road.

going to leave the other 3 card nvoc  build alone Grin

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December 05, 2017, 02:27:15 PM
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@Citronick, how did you do the redundant internet cabling? Was wondering if it can be done with regular network switches or require those more expensive "managed" switches.

Because I've rented another shoplot beside mine for another $250 usd/month and can do redundancy now. Another 3 phase, 60A, 240V to play with at 7.5cents/kwh

For the expansion I'll use these 8 gpu riserless solutions: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/mining-machine-ETH-machine-4u-8xgpu_60708486305.html

It's rather inexpensive compared to the nightmare called riser troubleshooting lol.


I'm going full 1070ti for expansion and selling my vegas (pm me if interested), they just take too much effort to deal with. Probably I'll start moving in rigs by Jan. Mine for a couple of months and add volta.


I've also seen some huge warehouses in Kuching. 45000sqft, supports 1000 KW of power, but will cost $60K USD to setup the place, rental deposit ,wiring and ventilation, and cost $5K usd a month rent. Roughly 5.3 cents/kwh. Pretty good value, but I don't have capital for this scale.




I like the idea of the new expansion csse!!
Question how will you watchdog it or if you even do that?


They use the 8 slot onda mobo which has standard power/reset pins. I'll plug in my simplerigresetters, make a small hole in the case if required. They are my remote reboot solution and worked flawless since I got them. I don't use watchdog because my rigs can run for months and if they do crash usually it's some hardware issue like a riser or a burnt rx470. I'd like the rig to go down to get the notification, so I can troubleshoot in greater detail.


@Citronick: I totally want to, but the 60k is better put in rigs for now. I can't justify the setup costs in the near future till I have a few hundred K usd to play with. Also the value at risk (worst case scenario amount I'll lose if crypto crash 90%) is too high to go this path. Wish I was born a few years earlier and have the capital Grin
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December 05, 2017, 02:31:42 PM
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Needless to say I was pretty happy. Oh and Windows isn't sticky and unresponsive anymore. I've now created a system restore point. Tonight I'll proceed with the installation of the Vega's.

whenever i make a change and am sure the system is stable i make a full disk image using macrium reflect free. its saved me a few times when something goes south after updates or changes. its free, makes a bootable "rescue" iso that you copy to usb. boot the rescue usb, then just restore the image (thats saved on a different usb/partition/network share/whatever) and away you go.

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December 05, 2017, 02:52:16 PM
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For the expansion I'll use these 8 gpu riserless solutions: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/mining-machine-ETH-machine-4u-8xgpu_60708486305.html
I'm going full 1070ti for expansion and selling my vegas (pm me if interested).
I'll plug in my simplerigresetters, make a small hole in the case if required. They are my remote reboot solution and worked flawless since I got them.

First, thanks for the link. A real nice product.
How many Vegas for sale? $?
Please explain rig resetter? custom made or can you buy these? I am going on holidays soon and will not have fun if something goes down while I'm gone Wink

Thanks for reading.
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For the expansion I'll use these 8 gpu riserless solutions: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/mining-machine-ETH-machine-4u-8xgpu_60708486305.html
I'm going full 1070ti for expansion and selling my vegas (pm me if interested).
I'll plug in my simplerigresetters, make a small hole in the case if required. They are my remote reboot solution and worked flawless since I got them.

First, thanks for the link. A real nice product.
How many Vegas for sale? $?
Please explain rig resetter? custom made or can you buy these? I am going on holidays soon and will not have fun if something goes down while I'm gone Wink

Thanks for reading.

I got 2x Vega 64 and 1x Vega frontier edition for sale. Only selling them as a set for now, asking $1900 usd + $50 usd worldwide shipping via EMS (paypal/crypto/ether escrow is ok). You should receive in 10 days. A Vega is making over $9 a day on nicehash now.

Here's  the site for SRR: https://shop.simplemining.net/

Each SRR plugs into 8 mobos, and you can remotely control on/off for the 8 machines. It's really worth the money imo, costing only $20/rig to remotely reboot them. Not like they'll go obsolete like gpus too.
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Here's  the site for SRR: https://shop.simplemining.net/

Thank you sir! That is amazing - just what I need.
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hey guys I know a lot of you use smOS -- Tytanick added DSTM Cheesy

Everyone here knows how to do this but I put together a quick video on it

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hey guys I know a lot of you use smOS -- Tytanick added DSTM Cheesy

Everyone here knows how to do this but I put together a quick video on it

https://youtu.be/oF9zMJ-EhvQ


looks like its working

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hey guys I know a lot of you use smOS -- Tytanick added DSTM Cheesy

Everyone here knows how to do this but I put together a quick video on it

https://youtu.be/oF9zMJ-EhvQ


looks like its working

--server equihash.hk.nicehash.com  --port 3357  --user putBTCaddressHere.$rigName --pass x
my 12 gpu rig isn't working consistently with it :c keeps losing connection

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Mining at 11500h/s on my 6x Vega56 powered Onda D1800 tonight! Cool

Took a while (and some tweaking could still be done), but I'm pretty happy, considering what I went through last night!

Damn those Vegas are loud though... Cheesy


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hey guys I know a lot of you use smOS -- Tytanick added DSTM Cheesy

Everyone here knows how to do this but I put together a quick video on it

https://youtu.be/oF9zMJ-EhvQ


looks like its working

--server equihash.hk.nicehash.com  --port 3357  --user putBTCaddressHere.$rigName --pass x


nice  I will do some rigs.

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