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June 04, 2013, 07:38:50 PM
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Obviously, the development requires funding, hence the pre-order...
In some countries selling pre-orders is considered a fraud.
In my eyes - always.

Sweet, your country must be full of very wealthy people with deep pockets (several hundred thousand to develop an ASIC)

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June 04, 2013, 07:40:19 PM
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KnCMiner VAT number: SE556931972501

Now, I've done my research, and for the life of me I haven't a clue as what part of your ass you pull that VAT number from.

http://www.allabolag.se/5569319725/KnCMiner_AB

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President   Kennemar , Bengt Mikael Andreas
Registration: 2013
 
F-Tax: na read more
 
ADDRESS
REGERINGSGATAN 111
111 39 Stockholm
Stockholm County

http://www.allabolag.se/5569319725/befattningar

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EXECUTIVE POSITIONS   
     Kennemar , Bengt Mikael Andrew (b. 1976) , President   
 
    BOARD AND SUPERVISOR POSITIONS   
     Kennemar , Bengt Mikael Andrew (b. 1976) , Member of the Board   
     Rilegård , Lars Johan (b. 1975) , Member of the Board, Chairman   
     Cole, Samuel James (b. 1980) , Member of the Board   
     Erlandsson , Stone Marcus (born 1975) , Member of the Board   
     Unnebäck , Carl Michael (b. 1966) , Member of the Board   
 
    PERSON AUTHORIZED TO SIGN FOR A FIRM   
    The company signed by the Board   
    Characterized by a firm of   
    -Erlandsson, Marcus Stone   
    -Rilegård, Lars Johan   
    -Unnebäck, Carl Michael   
    in association with one of   
    -Cole, Samuel James   
    -Kennemar Bengt Mikael Andreas   
    In addition, the President is entitled to subscribe for the Company   
    regarding current management measures

http://www.allabolag.se/5569319725/verksamhet

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Status:   Registration of the   
    Registration Date:   2013-05-16   

    F Tax status:   Information about F-tax missing   


    Länsäte:   Stockholm County   
    County Seat:   Stockholm   

    Ownership:   Private, non-listed   
 
    ACTIVITIES / PURPOSE   
    The Company shall conduct the sale of data products.
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June 04, 2013, 07:44:33 PM
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KnCMiner VAT number: SE556931972501

Now, I've done my research, and for the life of me I haven't a clue as what part of your ass you pull that VAT number from.


As previously stated Phin; their invoice.

They have a legal responsibility to disclose it there...

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June 04, 2013, 07:47:25 PM
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KnCMiner VAT number: SE556931972501

Now, I've done my research, and for the life of me I haven't a clue as what part of your ass you pull that VAT number from.

http://www.allabolag.se/5569319725/KnCMiner_AB

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President   Kennemar , Bengt Mikael Andreas
Registration: 2013
 
F-Tax: na read more
 
ADDRESS
REGERINGSGATAN 111
111 39 Stockholm
Stockholm County

http://www.allabolag.se/5569319725/befattningar

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EXECUTIVE POSITIONS   
     Kennemar , Bengt Mikael Andrew (b. 1976) , President   
 
    BOARD AND SUPERVISOR POSITIONS   
     Kennemar , Bengt Mikael Andrew (b. 1976) , Member of the Board   
     Rilegård , Lars Johan (b. 1975) , Member of the Board, Chairman   
     Cole, Samuel James (b. 1980) , Member of the Board   
     Erlandsson , Stone Marcus (born 1975) , Member of the Board   
     Unnebäck , Carl Michael (b. 1966) , Member of the Board   
 
    PERSON AUTHORIZED TO SIGN FOR A FIRM   
    The company signed by the Board   
    Characterized by a firm of   
    -Erlandsson, Marcus Stone   
    -Rilegård, Lars Johan   
    -Unnebäck, Carl Michael   
    in association with one of   
    -Cole, Samuel James   
    -Kennemar Bengt Mikael Andreas   
    In addition, the President is entitled to subscribe for the Company   
    regarding current management measures

http://www.allabolag.se/5569319725/verksamhet

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Status:   Registration of the   
    Registration Date:   2013-05-16   

    F Tax status:   Information about F-tax missing   


    Länsäte:   Stockholm County   
    County Seat:   Stockholm   

    Ownership:   Private, non-listed   
 
    ACTIVITIES / PURPOSE   
    The Company shall conduct the sale of data products.
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June 04, 2013, 07:48:57 PM
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Alright, did a second check with a different swedish company ( http://www.babyshop.com/content/view/contact )

Seems like the EU VAT numbers are basically the swedish company registration no with an isocode prefix (SE) and 01 as suffix.

So Kncminers registration no fits with their VAT code.

Makes it slightly less fishy, but still weird. But yeah, might be a database waiting to update. Let's see what happens.


The VAT number cheks out in Sweeden:

https://snr4.bolagsverket.se/snrgate

Try searching this on the left chosing "Foretang" from the dropdown: 5569319725 (the number minus the ISO code and the last two digits, as shown in my invoice under "organization number")

I'm guessing they are waiting for their government to include their EU VAT number in the databases. Here in Spain I have requested a EU VAT number for my company and although I know what the number will be it isn't active still.

I seriously doubt that they would have an open day, produce a fpga miner and work with a reputable developer (orsoc) just to scam someone with a fake vat number. Prob just a relatively new vat number and not in any system yet.
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Q4 : How up-to-date is the data?

The data is real-time. Each time you make a request, a message is sent to the Member State which issued the VAT identification number asking if the number quoted is valid.

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June 04, 2013, 07:51:04 PM
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KnCMiner VAT number: SE556931972501

ftfy

no 01

EDIT: Just now saw the post above this one.
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June 04, 2013, 07:54:24 PM
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KnCMiner VAT number: SE556931972501

ftfy

no 01

EDIT: Just now saw the post above this one.

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June 04, 2013, 08:06:19 PM
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Now, we're back to square one. The following site is uber-up-to-date and in real time, yet nada: http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/vatResponse.html
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June 04, 2013, 08:08:55 PM
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Now, we're back to square one. The following site is uber-up-to-date and in real time, yet nada: http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/vatResponse.html

bolagsverket.se is the official Swedish 'Companies House' (don't know what your term for that is in the US. Companies house in the UK is the official company registration database).

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June 04, 2013, 08:22:54 PM
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Now, we're back to square one. The following site is uber-up-to-date and in real time, yet nada: http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/vatResponse.html

bolagsverket.se is the official Swedish 'Companies House' (don't know what your term for that is in the US. Companies house in the UK is the official company registration database).
They are registering companies, OK.
But company also has to apply for a VAT registration. It's not issued automaticaly.
I thing they (KnC) are not done that yet.
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June 04, 2013, 08:25:14 PM
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hi again

i ve posted that already in the other posts

I would like to warn you guys that you will finance these guys business ventures by paying them upfront

so please be carefull


once the money have left your accounts there is nothing you can do to recover it ,


So PLEASE BE CAREFUL


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June 04, 2013, 10:26:36 PM
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Ok Daggeteo, just emailed me this. So anyone with any questions and concerns that want them asked tomorrow;

PM him before 11am GMT+1!!

Make these Q's that concern everyone, or groups of people from particular countries, etc., not personal beef about every individual order...

It's the best chance of clearing up whatever you're not happy about, confused or concerned about with them in person.

i.e. Why can't we purchase as consumers? Why do we have to confirm we are a business?

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Received  I'll add these to the list and ask them if there is enough time.

Many thanks for compiling these last ones. I haven't had the time to go through the thread these past two days in search of new Qs so I appreciate that you did! I'll be leaving prior to noonish so if there are any other Qs you wish to add please PM 11 am the latest.

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June 05, 2013, 01:27:51 AM
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Could we get a recording from whoever is going to the open house?

Thanks!

I think he said he would, have you seen the list of questions?! Take ages to type answers to all that!

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June 05, 2013, 01:30:40 AM
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7 more hours or so we should have some Exciting News to hear from some of the members who attended their Open Day.
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June 05, 2013, 01:35:17 AM
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Can't wait!  I'm really glad they give you 7 days to pay for the pre-orders or else I probably wouldn't have put in an order.

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June 05, 2013, 01:38:32 AM
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Ok Daggeteo, just emailed me this. So anyone with any questions and concerns that want them asked tomorrow;
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June 05, 2013, 01:40:59 AM
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Ok Daggeteo, just emailed me this. So anyone with any questions and concerns that want them asked tomorrow;
<snip>


AND DON'T FORGET TO THANK HIM!!!


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Haha, geezer! Grin Cool

I meant type 'thank-you for taking the time to ask this shizzle!'...I'm sure he'll be grateful for any acknowledgement other than being taken for granted!!! Wink

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June 05, 2013, 02:48:09 AM
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Oh, yea we are waiting anxiously, sure some of our members will grill them for some answers.
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June 05, 2013, 02:53:17 AM
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Ok Daggeteo, just emailed me this. So anyone with any questions and concerns that want them asked tomorrow;
<snip>


AND DON'T FORGET TO THANK HIM!!!


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Haha, geezer! Grin Cool

I meant type 'thank-you for taking the time to ask this shizzle!'...I'm sure he'll be grateful for any acknowledgement other than being taken for granted!!! Wink

Geezer?!? Not yet, I hope. My kid ain't even in school yet, you young whippersnapper!  Cheesy Grin

seriously, though, I thought thank you with a tip was better than just thank you. Spent a lot of my life working for tips Tongue

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June 05, 2013, 03:02:11 AM
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Ok Daggeteo, just emailed me this. So anyone with any questions and concerns that want them asked tomorrow;
<snip>


AND DON'T FORGET TO THANK HIM!!!


Just did. Only .01 BTC, but I'z poor Smiley



Haha, geezer! Grin Cool

I meant type 'thank-you for taking the time to ask this shizzle!'...I'm sure he'll be grateful for any acknowledgement other than being taken for granted!!! Wink

Geezer?!? Not yet, I hope. My kid ain't even in school yet, you young whippersnapper!  Cheesy Grin

seriously, though, I thought thank you with a tip was better than just thank you. Spent a lot of my life working for tips Tongue

Language barrier again buddy, sorry!; http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=geezer Cool

Meant to have been a compliment!!

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