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May 30, 2013, 03:48:23 PM
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Can't wait for VAT in USA!
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May 30, 2013, 03:53:04 PM
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May 30, 2013, 03:55:56 PM
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you do realize there is nothing after "hero member" right? (unless you donate some BTC!)

I bet you'll never become the top poster! Evaaaaaaaaaah!

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May 30, 2013, 03:58:59 PM
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I'm sick of vat

But it's not all VAT, it's actually called MOMS in Sweden; Grin



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May 30, 2013, 04:02:35 PM
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There's gotta be more, where's the leader board

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May 30, 2013, 04:03:49 PM
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That's it

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I bet you'll never become the top poster! Evaaaaaaaaaah!

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Well he must done a lot of postings on different thread, his fingers must be kind of tired out so he can't type many words and sentences. but have to agreed is tough for him to become a top poster Wink
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May 30, 2013, 04:07:06 PM
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Thank you. Yes I'm very tired from helping and contributing so much on other boards.

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Well he must done a lot of postings on different thread, his fingers must be kind of tired out so he can't type many words and sentences. but have to agreed is tough for him to become a top poster Wink

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May 30, 2013, 04:18:51 PM
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I'm sick of vat

But it's not all VAT, it's actually called MOMS in Sweden; Grin




I wonder how they call "getting screwed by moms" in Sweden...

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May 30, 2013, 04:21:55 PM
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I'm sick of vat

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I wonder how they call "getting screwed by moms" in Sweden...

Feminism?  Wink
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May 31, 2013, 12:24:16 AM
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If I recall correctly, they said they would accept either bitcoin or Paypal etc., true?

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May 31, 2013, 12:34:24 AM
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If I recall correctly, they said they would accept either bitcoin or Paypal etc., true?

According to the site itself (bottom right hand screen); they will be accepting Visa, MasterCard and Paypal. I saw them mention Bitcoins as well somewhere I think.

Visa and MasterCard payments made direct (not through a third party like Paypal or Amazon) give you the best security. Credit card, not debit card.

Given the preference over direct card payment and Paypal, credit card is better as Visa/Mastercards own buyer protection lasts longer and they assume the risk. If you pay via Paypal unfortunately the card protection is negated by Paypal's own protection.

Paypal's protection is max 45 days, whereas Visa and Mastercard both give a full 120 days after the proposed date of delivery to complain and apparently 6 years buyer protection.  

This was covered yesterday in either this, or the other KnC thread. I added some links explaining it early afternoon after someone else had mentioned it.

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May 31, 2013, 02:34:41 AM
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There's gotta be more, where's the leader board

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I bet you'll never become the top poster! Evaaaaaaaaaah!

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I doubt we will see a lot more 'donators' in the future. If I am not mistaken the lifetime BTC foundation donation is BTC200 so, just a little bit on the expensive side for the privilege of getting some forum-swag Smiley
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May 31, 2013, 08:18:35 AM
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There's gotta be more, where's the leader board

That's it

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I bet you'll never become the top poster! Evaaaaaaaaaah!

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I doubt we will see a lot more 'donators' in the future. If I am not mistaken the lifetime BTC foundation donation is BTC200 so, just a little bit on the expensive side for the privilege of getting some forum-swag Smiley

Have faith! Grin

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May 31, 2013, 08:42:30 AM
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If I recall correctly, they said they would accept either bitcoin or Paypal etc., true?

According to the site itself (bottom right hand screen); they will be accepting Visa, MasterCard and Paypal. I saw them mention Bitcoins as well somewhere I think.


KNC writes nowhere that they will accept CC directly
https://www.kncminer.com/pages/payment.
In each shop, which accepts paypal  is a Visa and Mastercard icon because u can use CC throug Paypal. That means not, that the shops accepts
CC directly.
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May 31, 2013, 09:47:54 AM
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If I recall correctly, they said they would accept either bitcoin or Paypal etc., true?

According to the site itself (bottom right hand screen); they will be accepting Visa, MasterCard and Paypal. I saw them mention Bitcoins as well somewhere I think.


KNC writes nowhere that they will accept CC directly
https://www.kncminer.com/pages/payment.
In each shop, which accepts paypal  is a Visa and Mastercard icon because u can use CC throug Paypal. That means not, that the shops accepts
CC directly.

Actually until a couple of weeks back there was a whole variety of card payment logos, now there is just Visa and MasterCard on site. From yesterday's discussion (only a page or two back), thanks to 'Retro 72' who divulged the following;

Visa/MasterCard stipulate you have upto 120 days after agreed delivery date to initiate a complaint. The card companies assume the risk in this case. Third parties, such as Paypal and Amazon negate that.

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/shopping/section75-protect-your-purchases
http://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/publications/technical_notes/goods-and-services-bought-with-credit.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/jan/20/section-75-chargeback

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May 31, 2013, 09:53:25 AM
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Is the change in payment logos something to be concerned about regarding the credibility of the company?
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May 31, 2013, 10:15:20 AM
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Is the change in payment logos something to be concerned about regarding the credibility of the company?

Not necessarily, probably means they are changing payment methods. Just Visa and MasterCard (Credit) should be the preferred payment methods for safe purchases as they have the greatest buyer protection and assume the risk themselves instead of placing the buyer or the seller in jeopardy...

Can't rem if I saw Discover and Amex listed before, but the both charge a lot more fee wise, especially American Express, around double, which is why retailers hate them.

If there's any confusion, this is the contact for Visa card purchases In Sweden, she can confirm any buyer protection queries;

Contact: Ellen Hellstadius, MS&L - Visa Europe Email: ellen.hellstadius@mslpr.se
Tel: +46 70555 31 36

Her contact was taken from this, whilst it concerns fraudulent card usage, she is still the best point of contact;

http://www.visa.se/se/press/idoc.ashx?docid=cc209ea2-b18c-454d-b89c-403be91bcb9d&version=-1

Also general consumer advice for purchases in Sweden and another contact;

Konsument Europa
e-mail address: info@konsumenteuropa.se telephone: 08-429 07 80
week days 09:00-13:00 www.konsumenteuropa.se

http://www.konsumentverket.se/Global/Konsumentverket.se/Beställa%20och%20ladda%20ner/Broschyrer/Dokument/kis_engelska_06.pdf

More general Swedish consumer e-commerce rights;

http://www.konsumenteuropa.se/en/Topics/E-commerce/E-commerce-within-the-EU/Your-rights-when-shopping-online/

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May 31, 2013, 10:22:07 AM
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Why no have a staging website where they can play around with all these things?

Seriously?

For a hosting company, you'd think they knew how to make a professional website.

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May 31, 2013, 12:12:52 PM
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Why no have a staging website where they can play around with all these things?

Seriously?

For a hosting company, you'd think they knew how to make a professional website.

Meh, they've had a site live for a few weeks for traffic generation/recognition amd as a voicebox for official announcements. They're not taking payments and had no product to show at the beginning, so it's work in progress until they are able and comfortable with their product offering to open the checkout.

If you had a staging website outside of public view with such a short timeframe available to generate awareness it would cost them the attention gained. Along with it the hype, speculation and criticism. This way they have been able to respond, adapt and evolve and generate interest whilst appeasing legitimate criticism as it unfolds.

I think it's been logical this route to evolve with the given time available. Above and beyond it's the products themselves, ability to deliver, and the protected payment choices with their given timeframes that matter.

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May 31, 2013, 12:57:42 PM
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Why no have a staging website where they can play around with all these things?

Seriously?

For a hosting company, you'd think they knew how to make a professional website.

Meh, they've had a site live for a few weeks for traffic generation/recognition amd as a voicebox for official announcements. They're not taking payments and had no product to show at the beginning, so it's work in progress until they are able and comfortable with their product offering to open the checkout.

If you had a staging website outside of public view with such a short timeframe available to generate awareness it would cost them the attention gained. Along with it the hype, speculation and criticism. This way they have been able to respond, adapt and evolve and generate interest whilst appeasing legitimate criticism as it unfolds.

I think it's been logical this route to evolve with the given time available. Above and beyond it's the products themselves, ability to deliver, and the protected payment choices with their given timeframes that matter.

Geez, you never stop finding excuses for them.

They have sites on MS Azure. How much do you think it costs to throw a dev/staging website? Really.

It's just unprofessional.


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