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June 09, 2013, 06:17:16 PM
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I think they were kinda clear that much of this will be outsourced.

So, figuratively they will get the first one at the same time they could easily send to customers too.

It looks like they feel they can do the same steps to produce Mars and betting the house on it.

In the name of speed everyone will love it..  if we crash around a corner.. ahh well.


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June 09, 2013, 06:32:01 PM
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What are their fallback procedures for IF they cannot produce the larger units, but can produce the smaller ones?

Will they deliver multiple smaller units to users who buy the bigger ones if production catches any major snags.

No one wants to see another BFL jalapeno/MiniRig debacle again.

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June 09, 2013, 06:44:47 PM
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What are their fallback procedures for IF they cannot produce the larger units, but can produce the smaller ones?

Will they deliver multiple smaller units to users who buy the bigger ones if production catches any major snags.

No one wants to see another BFL jalapeno/MiniRig debacle again.

Seriously, why do peeps find the request to PM me q's so difficult?! I've included you q btceic...Wink

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June 09, 2013, 07:14:00 PM
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What are their fallback procedures for IF they cannot produce the larger units, but can produce the smaller ones?

Will they deliver multiple smaller units to users who buy the bigger ones if production catches any major snags.

No one wants to see another BFL jalapeno/MiniRig debacle again.

Seriously, why do peeps find the request to PM me q's so difficult?! I've included you q btceic...Wink

I missed that, maybe put it in bold red? Wink

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June 09, 2013, 07:25:12 PM
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What are their fallback procedures for IF they cannot produce the larger units, but can produce the smaller ones?

Will they deliver multiple smaller units to users who buy the bigger ones if production catches any major snags.

No one wants to see another BFL jalapeno/MiniRig debacle again.

Seriously, why do peeps find the request to PM me q's so difficult?! I've included you q btceic...Wink

I missed that, maybe put it in bold red? Wink

No worries bro, you're on there.  KS isn't though, never did PM me any questions after all. Clearly he doesn't give two shi*s after all??

Right Q submission is over now, need my beauty sleep and still have to pack!

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June 09, 2013, 10:09:45 PM
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Right Q submission is over now, need my beauty sleep and still have to pack!


Pack? You've going for a day. What's there to pack?

Seriosuly; I hope you find the trip worthwhile and I look forward to your feedback....
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June 10, 2013, 01:27:49 AM
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Okay guys a head's up, these are the questions for tomorrow. You have about an hour to PM anything else you want asked before I try and put my head down so I may awake bright-eyed and bushy-tailed!

Note: I've slept like 7 hours these past two days due to some crazy physical work I've undertaken, so i'm making sure I get an early night!!

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ChipGeek

Note: These questions come from a guy (me) that has worked in (non bitcoin) ASIC design companies for over 25 years so my focus is from that perspective.

My questions are:

1) Is your ASIC design a hardcopy of the existing FPGA design or is it a semi-custom standard cell design?  (They've said "standard cell" before but other information makes it look like hardcopy.)

2) Have you done a (semi-) custom ASIC design of this complexity before?  Have you taken wafers through all of the post-fab production steps: wafer test, bumping, packaging, package test and binning?

3) Are you doing pre-package wafer test?

4) Are you doing post-packaging testing on a real production tester (Teradyne or similar)?

5) (This question only makes sense if they are NOT doing hardcopy.)  Is your package the same as the FPGA package or a custom one?  If custom, have you done custom packages before?


ElGabo

How many miners will you able to produce a day? Not exactly, their realistic perceived capacity + - 10%.

retro72

1) Did they design the Mars chips or buy them off the shelf?

2) They seemed to imply they were Altera chips. Did they design them for Altera?

3) If they did not design the chips, how is the Mars prototype relevant to the asic designs?

4) Did they design and fab the PCB?

5) Is the software they developed for the Mars, directly applicable to the asics?

6) What problems did they actually run into with the Mars?

7) Have these been solved?

8)Do they translate/ have any bearing on the asic design?

9) Did they learn anything significant from these issues?

10) They seem to be significantly cheaper than all the other options out there. Why is this?

11) Will their prices be fixed, or will they follow the trends in the BTC price/ROI?

12) Will the prices be raised after this initial pre-order period or are these the final RRP?


wowc8

1) I would love to know if they have a date set for when we can see one of their ASIC units hashing like the video they posted about Mars.

2) If their plan for shipping Jupiters is indeed the end of September, then they should have a working product soon, I would hope, for all of us to see.  There was some mention about them not needing to prototype these units, but I would think that they should at least have an idea when the first one will be fully manufactured and ready to present.


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Not sure who asked the following:

I'd ask the attendees on Monday to start to get some questions tied to dates on the calendar.  Such as: When will chips be ordered to meet September deadline?  How long will is the queue from the manufacturer once the chips are order (ie: 8-10 weeks?)  If 8-10 week lead time needed to get in queue from manufacturer what date will KNC be placing order?  Etc...

It would benefit us as pre-order "investors" to have dates of the process on the calendar so we can hold the company to their word.  This sets up check points we can all look to along the next 3 months.  Otherwise we're at the mercy of News updates and a lot of times those come in reaction to criticism (lack of updates) from the community versus anything else.

We need to be proactive versus reactive in this pre-order process.  We're trusting our coins


Ok You have a good trip and look forward to your report earlier before Monday 18.00/CET when the early pre order closes. Thanks and have a great trip. Smiley
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June 10, 2013, 01:29:28 AM
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June 10, 2013, 09:16:10 AM
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don´t forget pics of their jupiter prototype.  Shocked
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June 10, 2013, 09:17:10 AM
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don´t forget pics of their jupiter prototype.  Shocked
There won't be any prototype for Jupiter or Saturn ...
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June 10, 2013, 09:20:03 AM
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don´t forget pics of their jupiter prototype.  Shocked
There won't be any prototype for Jupiter or Saturn ...

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June 10, 2013, 09:28:37 AM
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What are their fallback procedures for IF they cannot produce the larger units, but can produce the smaller ones?

Will they deliver multiple smaller units to users who buy the bigger ones if production catches any major snags.

No one wants to see another BFL jalapeno/MiniRig debacle again.

Seriously, why do peeps find the request to PM me q's so difficult?! I've included you q btceic...Wink

I missed that, maybe put it in bold red? Wink

No worries bro, you're on there.  KS isn't though, never did PM me any questions after all. Clearly he doesn't give two shi*s after all??

Right Q submission is over now, need my beauty sleep and still have to pack!


Man, you're decidedly trying too hard.

Be a sport and admit your own BS.

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June 10, 2013, 12:57:37 PM
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So far no news on the open day?
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June 10, 2013, 01:02:55 PM
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So far no news on the open day?

Ok, we need to stop that undressed-chicks-on-trucks thing or we are doomed.

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June 10, 2013, 01:14:16 PM
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So far no news on the open day?

I heard they were seen boarding the truck!
..and haven't been seen since.
They never arrived at KnC headquarters..

Ok, we need to stop that undressed-chicks-on-trucks thing or we are doomed.



Let's calculate a few hashes for their poor souls.

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June 10, 2013, 08:39:04 PM
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Seriously the last crew never surfaced.

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June 10, 2013, 08:43:11 PM
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so they are gone ?  Huh
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June 10, 2013, 08:43:59 PM
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Looking for PreOrder-Queue-sales for my already payed Saturns. Please PM me with your offer.
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June 10, 2013, 08:44:16 PM
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Like for the first openday, they all disappeared.
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June 10, 2013, 08:44:36 PM
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They are become bio material for the new chips Smiley

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