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November 08, 2017, 05:52:54 PM
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definitely math will help you in gambling. but unfortunately im not good in math😑
It will help you to have some good analysis with the odds and other Mathematical gambling games. But if you are not good in Math it doesn't matter since you can still play with those luck-based games and other skill-based games like poker and dice game. I'm not even good at gambling but I'm only taking time to think on what games I'll play and where I'm good at. You don't have to take the risk in games that you don't know how to take advantage.
guys please can you put an example on how math actually could work and help us to win? i want to learn it if then everything makes sense. don't just talking crap , give us a concrete example with a simple proof also how to verify it.

math are so voluminous , you can not just say like that without a clear elucidation.
You will not get proof if math can help you win a gamble because there is no such evidence. In gambling, that can help you win in gambling is luck, when you luck, you'll win even though you're stupid in math.
 
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November 08, 2017, 06:08:13 PM
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If you are a mathematical genius and you know the algorithm of a certain game then your chances on winning is high.
Just like on some movies that i saw where a group of geniuses play poker and read the cards algorithm and eventually they won but been chased by the casino.
Math will help you win the game if you know how to calculate well on the game that you want to bet.

playing poker is unpredictable especially if you have unpredictable opponents too and if you're compare between the real life and in the movies i think you're clearly wrong that i have to say there is no such thing because calculate well will not guarantee you will win every single game you're played and the movies made only to attract people to watching them but the situations is different in the real life although there are some people who geniuses and good in math but i'm so doubt they will always win in gambling

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November 08, 2017, 06:24:15 PM
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If you are a mathematical genius and you know the algorithm of a certain game then your chances on winning is high.
Just like on some movies that i saw where a group of geniuses play poker and read the cards algorithm and eventually they won but been chased by the casino.
Math will help you win the game if you know how to calculate well on the game that you want to bet.

playing poker is unpredictable especially if you have unpredictable opponents too and if you're compare between the real life and in the movies i think you're clearly wrong that i have to say there is no such thing because calculate well will not guarantee you will win every single game you're played and the movies made only to attract people to watching them but the situations is different in the real life although there are some people who geniuses and good in math but i'm so doubt they will always win in gambling

I think he is talking about black jack, not poker(because math won't help you much in poker) and movie "21".
Probably he didn't watch end of movie. Counting cards is cheating, so math can't help you even in black jack if they catch you.
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November 08, 2017, 07:21:05 PM
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Math cannot really help you in gambling. The only science that can give a boost to your winning chances is statistics. If you take notes and have been doing this for years like me, I usually know which game has 80-90% chances to be a both teams to score game in soccer. This doesn't mean that you will win 100% but you will win more than you will lose.
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November 08, 2017, 10:09:48 PM
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Well... I believe that using math in your gambling strategy can give you a small edge,but after all it all resumes to LUCK. The most obvious example is the martingale strategy which fails every time unless you have a freakingly huge bankroll. Let's say you are playing dice and betting on >50.. What are the chances of losing 14-15 or even 26 in a row?! I can tell you it happened to me,but fortunately I was playing with test money. Smiley  So math can't really make you win. The casino's edge will always be bigger than yours, so try and reap your short term gambling profit and then STOP,take your won money home and my recommendation is ALWAYS play for FUN and not for profit!
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November 09, 2017, 07:46:22 AM
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Well... I believe that using math in your gambling strategy can give you a small edge,but after all it all resumes to LUCK. The most obvious example is the martingale strategy which fails every time unless you have a freakingly huge bankroll. Let's say you are playing dice and betting on >50.. What are the chances of losing 14-15 or even 26 in a row?! I can tell you it happened to me,but fortunately I was playing with test money. Smiley  So math can't really make you win. The casino's edge will always be bigger than yours, so try and reap your short term gambling profit and then STOP,take your won money home and my recommendation is ALWAYS play for FUN and not for profit!

Yep, we should always take that in mind that enjoying is much needed than wanting to earn more from it, but I still believe and let's not conclude the thread topics that there is a formula to solve the random result of dice or any in gambling, Even if it is just a slim percentage but who knows someday someone will formulate their own method without the casinos knowing it.
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November 09, 2017, 08:05:53 AM
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I used to be in trollbox every day and there are people that claimed to be using some Math formula to calculate the probability of the next round. The bet amount and the multiplier changes every single match depending on what happened in the past. It seems like it was working at that time. But last time I checked their profiles, they are all in negative profit. That proves that even some complicated Math formula fails in the long run in gambling. I mean what's the use of all those Math when the gambling site you are playing on has that sure loss (0.00x) chance and sometimes it happens a couple of times. Most gambling techniques are increasing the bet amount whenever they lose and being in a gambling site for so long, I noticed that there are times when there are reds (instaloss or sure loss) that comes consecutively. That means your bet amount increases and increases until the number of loss outnumbered the amount of bets your bankroll can recover from. And that's what finishes of most gambling betting strategies.

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November 09, 2017, 12:26:27 PM
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Math cannot really help you in gambling. The only science that can give a boost to your winning chances is statistics. If you take notes and have been doing this for years like me, I usually know which game has 80-90% chances to be a both teams to score game in soccer. This doesn't mean that you will win 100% but you will win more than you will lose.

I agree, math could only help you to win in gambling sometimes, but never always, luck is the most important thing that we should have in gambling, that way, we could assure ourselves that we could win and not worry about losing our money. But there are games in gambling which math plays a big role and I guess that could help you to win in gambling, however, avoid having too much confident on gambling.
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November 09, 2017, 12:56:53 PM
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Math cannot really help you in gambling. The only science that can give a boost to your winning chances is statistics. If you take notes and have been doing this for years like me, I usually know which game has 80-90% chances to be a both teams to score game in soccer. This doesn't mean that you will win 100% but you will win more than you will lose.

I agree, math could only help you to win in gambling sometimes, but never always, luck is the most important thing that we should have in gambling, that way, we could assure ourselves that we could win and not worry about losing our money. But there are games in gambling which math plays a big role and I guess that could help you to win in gambling, however, avoid having too much confident on gambling.

I think you guys are not understanding the idea here.. It's not about math magically telling you what will win or how you'll win. It's about using math to your advantage and getting an edge in certain games. Statistics and all of that is a sort of math that you will use. Nobody can argue that you always need a bit of luck to win but yeah. You can use maths to your advantage.

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November 09, 2017, 01:40:03 PM
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i don't really believe that math can help me winning in gambling even how smart you are in math but you are not lucky today the you will lose.i do more believe if you are lu ky then you will always winning.
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November 09, 2017, 02:19:22 PM
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No, gambling is purely based on sheer luck and little bit knowledge about technicalities, maths is nothing to do with gambling.
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November 09, 2017, 02:39:43 PM
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Math cannot really help you in gambling. The only science that can give a boost to your winning chances is statistics. If you take notes and have been doing this for years like me, I usually know which game has 80-90% chances to be a both teams to score game in soccer. This doesn't mean that you will win 100% but you will win more than you will lose.

I agree, math could only help you to win in gambling sometimes, but never always, luck is the most important thing that we should have in gambling, that way, we could assure ourselves that we could win and not worry about losing our money. But there are games in gambling which math plays a big role and I guess that could help you to win in gambling, however, avoid having too much confident on gambling.

I think you guys are not understanding the idea here.. It's not about math magically telling you what will win or how you'll win. It's about using math to your advantage and getting an edge in certain games. Statistics and all of that is a sort of math that you will use. Nobody can argue that you always need a bit of luck to win but yeah. You can use maths to your advantage.

Maybe math can help them realize that it isn't appropriate for the game to play more than normal. So if you use that math with gambling, well it can be because you can calculate the basic addition and subtraction particular on the losses from the previous game plays. That's why you will have to add if you're with win but subtract if you loss, so basically that's how i knew it and actually if you are clever enough, you can have the signs that you can stop betting due to funds is getting smaller after calculations.
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November 09, 2017, 03:15:55 PM
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i don't really believe that math can help me winning in gambling even how smart you are in math but you are not lucky today the you will lose.i do more believe if you are lu ky then you will always winning.
I think this kind of math calculations only works in movies. if you try that in real life I think no calculation will help you to win your bet.
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November 09, 2017, 03:59:49 PM
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Math can tell you the probability of a chance you are playing on and the number of odds you can afford with a limited about of money. You can be lucky on your first chance or you can loose all the reds you have ever imagined.
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November 09, 2017, 05:00:29 PM
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Math cannot really help you in gambling. The only science that can give a boost to your winning chances is statistics. If you take notes and have been doing this for years like me, I usually know which game has 80-90% chances to be a both teams to score game in soccer. This doesn't mean that you will win 100% but you will win more than you will lose.

I agree, math could only help you to win in gambling sometimes, but never always, luck is the most important thing that we should have in gambling, that way, we could assure ourselves that we could win and not worry about losing our money. But there are games in gambling which math plays a big role and I guess that could help you to win in gambling, however, avoid having too much confident on gambling.

I think you guys are not understanding the idea here.. It's not about math magically telling you what will win or how you'll win. It's about using math to your advantage and getting an edge in certain games. Statistics and all of that is a sort of math that you will use. Nobody can argue that you always need a bit of luck to win but yeah. You can use maths to your advantage.
The problem is to use that math itself not easy , if you think you can do it then that's good for you.
But how if you don't understand a single thing about this math strategy could help you out here ?
You will struggle even to figure out step by step how and where the math magic actually? Is that really worth to learn about math for the sake of gambling ? I don't think so , better to gamble randomly without any confusion.
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November 09, 2017, 05:03:42 PM
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Math cannot really help you in gambling. The only science that can give a boost to your winning chances is statistics. If you take notes and have been doing this for years like me, I usually know which game has 80-90% chances to be a both teams to score game in soccer. This doesn't mean that you will win 100% but you will win more than you will lose.

I agree, math could only help you to win in gambling sometimes, but never always, luck is the most important thing that we should have in gambling, that way, we could assure ourselves that we could win and not worry about losing our money. But there are games in gambling which math plays a big role and I guess that could help you to win in gambling, however, avoid having too much confident on gambling.

I think you guys are not understanding the idea here.. It's not about math magically telling you what will win or how you'll win. It's about using math to your advantage and getting an edge in certain games. Statistics and all of that is a sort of math that you will use. Nobody can argue that you always need a bit of luck to win but yeah. You can use maths to your advantage.

Maybe math can help them realize that it isn't appropriate for the game to play more than normal. So if you use that math with gambling, well it can be because you can calculate the basic addition and subtraction particular on the losses from the previous game plays. That's why you will have to add if you're with win but subtract if you loss, so basically that's how i knew it and actually if you are clever enough, you can have the signs that you can stop betting due to funds is getting smaller after calculations.

Haha.. What the hell did you just write? Grin.. Honestly I have no clue what you are getting at here? "If you lose you subtract, if you win you add" No way, is that how maths work?

That is not what I meant with my quoted post at all.. lol.

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November 09, 2017, 05:28:24 PM
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i don't really believe that math can help me winning in gambling even how smart you are in math but you are not lucky today the you will lose.i do more believe if you are lu ky then you will always winning.
I think this kind of math calculations only works in movies. if you try that in real life I think no calculation will help you to win your bet.

Really guys? You've never heard of card counting? It's a very common thing especially in blackjack. It won't help you in an online casino, because it picks a random string every time and doesn't change the deck, but if you play real BJ with live dealers (for instance at jetwin) you'll see that they have full decks stack up in line and start another deck once the first one comes to an end. When they go through like 3 or 4 decks all of them are taken back for shuffling, which is also done in the background so you can see that they don't set the decks in any way. If you're smart and you're getting near the end of one deck you will know what cards were put on the table and what you can get.
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November 09, 2017, 06:26:30 PM
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im not sure about this people say that analysing your gains and losses helps you to manage you profits as well as losses easier but in this maybe maths is required im not completely sure about this
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November 09, 2017, 07:45:03 PM
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The only math that I do with my betting strategy is how many times I have lost. I add those up and think that I will win the next round with the number also.  Grin
Or sometimes when it is lose then win back and forth I score how many times I lose and win. Somehow I survived by doing that but I am still at loss. Guess there is no such thing as that. Maybe a deeper math can do.
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November 10, 2017, 04:34:29 AM
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GAmbling lords wont let anyone to overpower them.specially in winning against their system.every measure or actions we do they will make counter attacks.maybe in the first you can use those but the end of the day winnings is on their side.for me better to rely on luck coz thats the reality on gambling.we will win if we are lucky
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