Can maths help you win in gambling ?

[Hhampuz]

It is just increment or decrement a number by 1, just need to know what cards are... simple as that...
It is harder to learn the rules of BJ then to count cards on BJ

More or less yeah, if you practice on your memory and how to successfully memorize in good order you can earn some on it . But that's definitely not for everyone.. only a handfull that can memorize that good .

What order?!?!
you need to know how to count to 52; how to add 1 to a number up to 52 and how to subtract 1 from the number.
If you can't do that I wonder how you can type on the keyboard...

If you have trouble remembering s single number (up to 2 digits), then how do you ever remember your name, or anything else in this matter...

Just want to note again: if you do NOT KNOW when counting cards is, do not comment on it!!!

After all you DO NOT have to remember every card (each card is +1 or -1) and you start from 0, so you add the value of each card to the 0 and you remember the number, one number and that is all....

Please inform yourself before commenting on something you do not know at all!!!!

You are the one who seem uninformed. It is not as simple as you say it is, if it is, tell me how many millions you have made from BlackJack? If it's so easy you should be out there everyday just doing it over and over until you have more money than you can spend in a lifetime, no?

It's not just +1, -1. It's not.

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[marlboroza]

I've ever read history that 1 gambler able win $ 250.000 with math , maybe at range 1900++
It's amazing right ? but for this digital era, it's quite difficult to make it happen since the system getting complicated from time to time

Everyone with little dose of luck and very large bankroll can do that. Very large bets are required to win 250000$, theoretically you can put million dollars and roll dice on 1.25X and there you go - 250000$. Math? No, he could have lost. He was lucky enough to roll his numbers.
Behind that story is probably link to casino or perhaps referral link 

[Pettuh4]

I've ever read history that 1 gambler able win $ 250.000 with math , maybe at range 1900++
It's amazing right ? but for this digital era, it's quite difficult to make it happen since the system getting complicated from time to time

Everyone with little dose of luck and very large bankroll can do that. Very large bets are required to win 250000$, theoretically you can put million dollars and roll dice on 1.25X and there you go - 250000$. Math? No, he could have lost. He was lucky enough to roll his numbers.
Behind that story is probably link to casino or perhaps referral link 

Maths can help you calculate your wins and also with a personal audit f your gambling life but it will not make you win games because you are good with numbers, NO! it doesn't work that way and so it is best if you can plan and manage your personal life and emotions before embarking on the journey of gambling.

[bitllionaire]

I've ever read history that 1 gambler able win $ 250.000 with math , maybe at range 1900++
It's amazing right ? but for this digital era, it's quite difficult to make it happen since the system getting complicated from time to time

Everyone with little dose of luck and very large bankroll can do that. Very large bets are required to win 250000$, theoretically you can put million dollars and roll dice on 1.25X and there you go - 250000$. Math? No, he could have lost. He was lucky enough to roll his numbers.
Behind that story is probably link to casino or perhaps referral link 

Maths can help you calculate your wins and also with a personal audit f your gambling life but it will not make you win games because you are good with numbers, NO! it doesn't work that way and so it is best if you can plan and manage your personal life and emotions before embarking on the journey of gambling.

i think yes calculation can be helpful but not in all formates of gambling, For example in dice games we can only depend on our luck there our calculation will be useless, It cannot help us there to increase the chances of winning the bit. But still in some gambling games like in sports betting we have some chances to use calculation and increase the chances of making money in gambling.

[JL421]

To win in gambling not only maths will help you have to apply on the right timing and at the right move. Otherwise maths has no use in gambling to win. To win in gambling along with maths smartness and the strategic move only lead you to win.

maths doesn't have much of use in gambling it can help us sometimes to predict the roll but
the most and only important thing in gambling is luck if you dont have any luck you will never
be able to make any profit

[crwth]

To win in gambling not only maths will help you have to apply on the right timing and at the right move. Otherwise maths has no use in gambling to win. To win in gambling along with maths smartness and the strategic move only lead you to win.

maths doesn't have much of use in gambling it can help us sometimes to predict the roll but
the most and only important thing in gambling is luck if you dont have any luck you will never
be able to make any profit

In my opinion, gambling is all about mathematics because you could get all the data that was done before you bet. If you watch it, it could help you predict a better bet with it using math, but you really need to work on it because it's hard to do that and you need to be really inclined to math if you want. It could be a strategy of some sorts as long as it's legal.

[thinkdifferent]

To win in gambling not only maths will help you have to apply on the right timing and at the right move. Otherwise maths has no use in gambling to win. To win in gambling along with maths smartness and the strategic move only lead you to win.

maths doesn't have much of use in gambling it can help us sometimes to predict the roll but
the most and only important thing in gambling is luck if you dont have any luck you will never
be able to make any profit

Yes, that is correct. Maths only help to reduce your losing chances but to win our bet we much be a lucky person on that day.

[poplolnman]

To win in gambling not only maths will help you have to apply on the right timing and at the right move. Otherwise maths has no use in gambling to win. To win in gambling along with maths smartness and the strategic move only lead you to win.

maths doesn't have much of use in gambling it can help us sometimes to predict the roll but
the most and only important thing in gambling is luck if you dont have any luck you will never
be able to make any profit

In my opinion, gambling is all about mathematics because you could get all the data that was done before you bet. If you watch it, it could help you predict a better bet with it using math, but you really need to work on it because it's hard to do that and you need to be really inclined to math if you want. It could be a strategy of some sorts as long as it's legal.

if you learn about probability and statistics in mathematics you might could find it easily that gambling would only make the players suffering for long time instead win over it. the only way can assure you to keep get a steady profit in gambling are by cheating , exploiting and any other illegal things there. other than that i just believe it's near impossible.

[crwth]

To win in gambling not only maths will help you have to apply on the right timing and at the right move. Otherwise maths has no use in gambling to win. To win in gambling along with maths smartness and the strategic move only lead you to win.

maths doesn't have much of use in gambling it can help us sometimes to predict the roll but
the most and only important thing in gambling is luck if you dont have any luck you will never
be able to make any profit

In my opinion, gambling is all about mathematics because you could get all the data that was done before you bet. If you watch it, it could help you predict a better bet with it using math, but you really need to work on it because it's hard to do that and you need to be really inclined to math if you want. It could be a strategy of some sorts as long as it's legal.

if you learn about probability and statistics in mathematics you might could find it easily that gambling would only make the players suffering for long time instead win over it. the only way can assure you to keep get a steady profit in gambling are by cheating , exploiting and any other illegal things there. other than that i just believe it's near impossible.

That's true because there is an addition to the house edge and in the long run, that would kill your balance over. If you want to make a profit from it then you should limit yourself, like when you reach this certain amount you will stop, it's either green or red. In the end, it's you who will be in control of it, not anyone. You should be stronger than the evils around you.

[Caladonian]

To win in gambling not only maths will help you have to apply on the right timing and at the right move. Otherwise maths has no use in gambling to win. To win in gambling along with maths smartness and the strategic move only lead you to win.

maths doesn't have much of use in gambling it can help us sometimes to predict the roll but
the most and only important thing in gambling is luck if you dont have any luck you will never
be able to make any profit

math has been used for those who believes with martingale system as they are trying to calculate the numbers of red and the numbers of green
then they will anticipated that the numbers of that particular play will give them chances to read the next outcome.

[Neddie1908]

Math could help you win a gamble in a way with the use of probability to predict your roll but it also depends on your luck or your toss of your dice.

[haileysantos95]

I do believe that math can help you win in gambling since there is an algorithm that is being followed by a certain game like playing slots etc. these kind of games have been program or modified to win at a certain degree.

[daringdiscovered]

Math could help you win a gamble in a way with the use of probability to predict your roll but it also depends on your luck or your toss of your dice.

Predicting a roll is going to be a tough once since every single roll is random, so there is no chance that you could have the right prediction and won most of the roll. If you really wanted to win, then I'm afraid there is no way to win like most of the time as much as you want. If you are thinking that gambling could double your money, then think again.

[Yanisumin]

This article doesn't state that you can win at roulette by using math, it says this at the end:

We can dress up the layout of the wheel, the layout of the betting cloth, our number selection and our money management system however we like, but the maths is always there, quietly working against us. You might as well just have fun, pick random numbers and trust to Lady Luck. Either that, or do as Einstein suggested and steal chips (not that we’d recommend it).

So no, it's not possible to win at roulette just by using math.

For other games it's possible, but keep in mind that casino's are doing everything in their power to prevent you from doing so.
I'm thinking of blackjack specifically, they have security measures in place to prevent you from counting cards. If they even suspect you're doing this, they can ban you from the casino.

For pvp games like poker, you can effectively use math to gain an edge over other players though.

The great representation on how to use math in gambling is based on the true to life story of the movie 21 where they are using the famous card counting. I've heard also in the new that one of the hollywood's brightest ben Affleck has been banned to some casinos because of using card counting. It's not easy to achieve tho' especially when you are in a game and when you don't have support by other people.
We are governed by the laws of mathematics, and when we want to watch how mathematics work in everyday life we will also know about how terrifying it can be if it can be used. Building the Burj khalifa ain't no luck man, it is pure science mathematics and engineering. I've heard also that some accounts can predict the lottery. The question here is how can you solve the problem in games and what method. Some requires a lot of time and some requires a very low probability.

In some games like the roll of the dice, ball spins, of course we can use some mathematics but it is impossible to solve for it live because we don't know the force of the roll, the edges and the friction of the surface so there is no way to play but to depend on pure luck.

I don't think Math can help you win but Math can make you have an idea on your chances of winning in any gambling activity. It makes your decisions more educated but luck still decides on who will win in gambling.

Like i have said there are multiple ways and there are lot of possibilities, and yes mathematics can also bring you down to the best choices and choose the best possible combinations.

[Wall-ET]

I've ever read history that 1 gambler able win $ 250.000 with math , maybe at range 1900++
It's amazing right ? but for this digital era, it's quite difficult to make it happen since the system getting complicated from time to time

Everyone with little dose of luck and very large bankroll can do that. Very large bets are required to win 250000$, theoretically you can put million dollars and roll dice on 1.25X and there you go - 250000$. Math? No, he could have lost. He was lucky enough to roll his numbers.
Behind that story is probably link to casino or perhaps referral link 

Maths can help you calculate your wins and also with a personal audit f your gambling life but it will not make you win games because you are good with numbers, NO! it doesn't work that way and so it is best if you can plan and manage your personal life and emotions before embarking on the journey of gambling.

i think yes calculation can be helpful but not in all formates of gambling, For example in dice games we can only depend on our luck there our calculation will be useless, It cannot help us there to increase the chances of winning the bit. But still in some gambling games like in sports betting we have some chances to use calculation and increase the chances of making money in gambling.

You are completely wrong!
Math does help you, as you can calculate the odds of winning and losing.
If you could do that, then you could skip the bets that have 90% chance of losing and bet on the odds 90% chance of winning.
If you get like this you will be winning thus math makes you win in gambling...

Yes the casino does not like you to win, so they tell you it is all luck, so you are brainwashed and think that.
In fact card counting is forbidden in casinos, as this is pure math that helps you win even when you got no luck at all.
That is why you can beat BJ game made for fun, but you can not beat the casino, as they use math to make it impossible to win, no matter how "lucky" you are...
This is the way it works.

As for the 250k win -> we need more info how exactly did he won this amount. was it one time bet or was it like 20hrs of betting, or 30 days of betting.


I remember watching documentary on casino audit and security and the chief of security said: "we got many types of gamblers.
All are different.
I remember once on New Year's eve one guy came out of noware put a briefcase of 1mil in it.
Put it on red and won.
We never seen him before and didn't see him up till next year.
He came again and repeated what he did last year - he lost.
We never seen him again."

This was a lucky guy. Risked 1mil and had a free loan of 1mil for a year, then returned it
There was no math in there, but pure luck and he won 1mil in a single bet with odds of 47.3684%


So to show you how does the math work:

In BJ:
You count cards. On a fresh deck you start from 0 and add 1 once you see color card (has value of 10, J, Q, K, A) or subtract 1 if it has a number (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9).
Once the count is 16+ it is considered hot  deck.
So when you start counting you do not bet until the deck is HOT.
Once it gets HOT you start betting. then the chance to win is considerably bigger then if you start from beginning.
You should not stop to count. Once the deck cools you should stop betting until the deck gets hot again.

This is how the card counting works.
There is no Rainman needs in order to do it. You do not have to be Monk to do it.
Just need to know how to count to 30 or so and that is it.

What casino does in order to stop you from winning:
1. does not allow you to count the cards.
2. does not allow you to sit and not bet until the deck is hot.
3. stops you if you bet small (because of 2) while the deck is cold and bet big once the deck is hot -> this will trigger the security to ask you to leave.
4. adds 6 decks (or more), making it harder for counting.
5. adds a cut card - the game will stop once the cut cards is next, so you do not use the hole set of cards, just a portion. This makes the counting harder, as you do not know how many big and small cards are in the playable deck.
6. reduces the payout odds in order to reduce the winnings if you count and/or got lucky.
7. other manipulations of the cards in order to not allow you to win.
8. min and max bet - cuts the ability to win back your loss

The roulette has it's otehr sparks:
1. you can not sit and watch it turn if no bets are placed.
2. you have a min and max bet to limit you from using unlimited increments in order to win your loss.
3. Have one 0 in EU and a second 00 in US, just so the casino has better edge (all maths). So instead of having 50-50 chance for the black/red you have 47.36% in EU and 46.1538% in US.
4. some more limitation like electronics (even on physical tables) to manipulate the output to contradict you if you start winning too much.

The slots are killers:
They just use one of the lowest payout odds in the casino.
They are used to take the money of people, yet they are set to pay BIG wins to few in order to attract more ppl to play them.

and so on and so on.





Remember in you play in a casino you are going to lose, as the maths show that and there is no casino that works in loss.
If you play on a game of chance that is made just for fun (has none of the limitation of the casino), they math will make you win no matter how unlucky you are...

[marlboroza]

To win in gambling not only maths will help you have to apply on the right timing and at the right move. Otherwise maths has no use in gambling to win. To win in gambling along with maths smartness and the strategic move only lead you to win.

maths doesn't have much of use in gambling it can help us sometimes to predict the roll but
the most and only important thing in gambling is luck if you dont have any luck you will never
be able to make any profit

In my opinion, gambling is all about mathematics because you could get all the data that was done before you bet. If you watch it, it could help you predict a better bet with it using math, but you really need to work on it because it's hard to do that and you need to be really inclined to math if you want. It could be a strategy of some sorts as long as it's legal.

if you learn about probability and statistics in mathematics you might could find it easily that gambling would only make the players suffering for long time instead win over it. the only way can assure you to keep get a steady profit in gambling are by cheating , exploiting and any other illegal things there. other than that i just believe it's near impossible.

That's true because there is an addition to the house edge and in the long run, that would kill your balance over. If you want to make a profit from it then you should limit yourself, like when you reach this certain amount you will stop, it's either green or red. In the end, it's you who will be in control of it, not anyone. You should be stronger than the evils around you.

Not really and definitely not in games with negative expected value.
You are not controlling anything, you are just making bets/rolls/spins/whatever and you are hopping that you will be lucky enough to win. It is not a rocket science.

[Hhampuz]

To win in gambling not only maths will help you have to apply on the right timing and at the right move. Otherwise maths has no use in gambling to win. To win in gambling along with maths smartness and the strategic move only lead you to win.

maths doesn't have much of use in gambling it can help us sometimes to predict the roll but
the most and only important thing in gambling is luck if you dont have any luck you will never
be able to make any profit

In my opinion, gambling is all about mathematics because you could get all the data that was done before you bet. If you watch it, it could help you predict a better bet with it using math, but you really need to work on it because it's hard to do that and you need to be really inclined to math if you want. It could be a strategy of some sorts as long as it's legal.

if you learn about probability and statistics in mathematics you might could find it easily that gambling would only make the players suffering for long time instead win over it. the only way can assure you to keep get a steady profit in gambling are by cheating , exploiting and any other illegal things there. other than that i just believe it's near impossible.

That's true because there is an addition to the house edge and in the long run, that would kill your balance over. If you want to make a profit from it then you should limit yourself, like when you reach this certain amount you will stop, it's either green or red. In the end, it's you who will be in control of it, not anyone. You should be stronger than the evils around you.

Not really and definitely not in games with negative expected value.
You are not controlling anything, you are just making bets/rolls/spins/whatever and you are hopping that you will be lucky enough to win. It is not a rocket science.

I think what he meant is that you are the only one in control of your own bets and how you will place them. Since nobody else can force you to gamble this or that much you are the one responsible in the end if you go broke or if you get stuck in a hole..

[Qartersa]

Yes I think so too. But you know, there are software that were developed to make sound mathematical predictions based on the data you provide. The key is to know what software best fits your business curricula. You cannot just use one software for all business problems you come across with. Hence, know your target and choose which software best responds to your needs. Almost everything can be predicted if you have a good, reliable data on hand.

[Hhampuz]

Yes I think so too. But you know, there are software that were developed to make sound mathematical predictions based on the data you provide. The key is to know what software best fits your business curricula. You cannot just use one software for all business problems you come across with. Hence, know your target and choose which software best responds to your needs. Almost everything can be predicted if you have a good, reliable data on hand.

I've seen that kind of software too. Usually it costs you a shitload to even get a hold of it and once you do start using it it's never what they promise it to be. I know they don't guarantee you to turn $100 to $1000000 but I've seen some really poor software out there that I bet a bunch of users have bought with the hope of making some easy money..

[poplolnman]

To win in gambling not only maths will help you have to apply on the right timing and at the right move. Otherwise maths has no use in gambling to win. To win in gambling along with maths smartness and the strategic move only lead you to win.

maths doesn't have much of use in gambling it can help us sometimes to predict the roll but
the most and only important thing in gambling is luck if you dont have any luck you will never
be able to make any profit

In my opinion, gambling is all about mathematics because you could get all the data that was done before you bet. If you watch it, it could help you predict a better bet with it using math, but you really need to work on it because it's hard to do that and you need to be really inclined to math if you want. It could be a strategy of some sorts as long as it's legal.

if you learn about probability and statistics in mathematics you might could find it easily that gambling would only make the players suffering for long time instead win over it. the only way can assure you to keep get a steady profit in gambling are by cheating , exploiting and any other illegal things there. other than that i just believe it's near impossible.

That's true because there is an addition to the house edge and in the long run, that would kill your balance over. If you want to make a profit from it then you should limit yourself, like when you reach this certain amount you will stop, it's either green or red. In the end, it's you who will be in control of it, not anyone. You should be stronger than the evils around you.

there's nothing to do with the set a limit could bring you a teady income/profit , you would remain poor against the great house edge in the long run . if there's the greatest famous mathematicians and statisticians like pythagoras or someone greater than them in modern probability theory they might get into gambling industry. but none of them nowadays do it right? which means math can only help the casino to win not to help the player.