Can maths help you win in gambling ?

[wxxyrqa]

Indeed for gambling we have lots of confusion in it, because it is in gambling we also sometimes confused as to whether that was done right or wrong. But indeed to be able to get many of the advantages we also need calculations i.e. math, because every gambling also have the techniques or strategies so that they can get the victory. If it does not we do or we just let go about what we do, then the results will be obtained as just an unfortunate thing.

The fact is that in most cases, those people who play gambling and who met me, are not more than lucky in this matter. But I've heard a lot of stories about the fact that it is the math experts who are good players. But this was still hoped for by anyone.

[Aamir1]

Indeed for gambling we have lots of confusion in it, because it is in gambling we also sometimes confused as to whether that was done right or wrong. But indeed to be able to get many of the advantages we also need calculations i.e. math, because every gambling also have the techniques or strategies so that they can get the victory. If it does not we do or we just let go about what we do, then the results will be obtained as just an unfortunate thing.

Well, i only understood some parts of your text, but still i want to tell you, that maths is used for calculations, you are right about that, but the thread is not about that, but it says whether we can use math to win in gambling, or in roulette more specifically, and that is probably not possible. There is no techniques in gambling, but there are only strategies, and those strategies do apply mathematics but they don't always make you win. Those strategies are only used to gain what is lost, and even that is not accomplished most of the times. So it is not possible to win in gambling using math.

[Aikidoka]

Mathematics is very useful in our everyday life. My teacher told us that if we want to get rich, we must first be financially intelligent. He also told us that if we are sad, all we can do is reach for a calculator and compute for the amount of money we might own in the future.

Math is helpful in gambling because you can learn about the probabilities and chances that is happening in gambling. Gambling is always a risk because there are gambles that the lose chances are higher than the chances of winning.

I like the example of your teacher. However, dreaming without commitment is not sufficient enough to reach your goal and be rich. For me, I do not need math to gamble and it does not help me to win. All I need and require is a logical mind and a mind of prediction.

It is a fact that math is logic, but my logic is different. I use logic based on common sense and other different things that allow me to predict and win without attempting to calculate. 

[Malsetid]

Mathematics is very useful in our everyday life. My teacher told us that if we want to get rich, we must first be financially intelligent. He also told us that if we are sad, all we can do is reach for a calculator and compute for the amount of money we might own in the future.

Math is helpful in gambling because you can learn about the probabilities and chances that is happening in gambling. Gambling is always a risk because there are gambles that the lose chances are higher than the chances of winning.

I like the example of your teacher. However, dreaming without commitment is not sufficient enough to reach your goal and be rich. For me, I do not need math to gamble and it does not help me to win. All I need and require is a logical mind and a mind of prediction.

It is a fact that math is logic, but my logic is different. I use logic based on common sense and other different things that allow me to predict and win without attempting to calculate. 

That's correct. Math is logic and the only time that applies to gambling is when you know that you have less chance of getting a good result especially if you play for an extended time. That's speaking for most gambling games though as it can also ve useful for a few games. If you're playing a luck based gamblig game, don't bither yourself by doing maths, just hope you're going to win

[Wall-ET]

I think it helps with roulette a bit. Of course it depends on luck but I'm talking only about the "help". Also I think if you are a math person you have better options of being a good poker player. 

Well it really boils down to what game you're going to use math on. It certainly won't help you on games that's purely luck reliant like dice and slots. Aside from calculating the money you're going to burn of course.

Yes gambling is far from calculating and math is not an option when we play gambling. Gambling games rely solely on luck and that is a matter of course. If you see anyone saying that he can win the gambling with the help of mathematical calculations then it is a lie !! do not believe and use your mind!

So you want to tell me that all casino owners are the luckiest people on the planet, as they allays win!
You are sooo wrong.. you say "gambling is pure luck" then "use your brain"...
What you mean? That you can use your brain to be lucky?!?!?

All games of chance are 100% pure math, so casino owners are using math in order to win 100% guarantee.
There is no luck in this.
If you know what math is and how to use it, then it will help you, if you don't => nothing will help you.

[doomistake]

Mathematics is very useful in our everyday life. My teacher told us that if we want to get rich, we must first be financially intelligent. He also told us that if we are sad, all we can do is reach for a calculator and compute for the amount of money we might own in the future.

Math is helpful in gambling because you can learn about the probabilities and chances that is happening in gambling. Gambling is always a risk because there are gambles that the lose chances are higher than the chances of winning.

I like the example of your teacher. However, dreaming without commitment is not sufficient enough to reach your goal and be rich. For me, I do not need math to gamble and it does not help me to win. All I need and require is a logical mind and a mind of prediction.

It is a fact that math is logic, but my logic is different. I use logic based on common sense and other different things that allow me to predict and win without attempting to calculate. 

That's correct. Math is logic and the only time that applies to gambling is when you know that you have less chance of getting a good result especially if you play for an extended time. That's speaking for most gambling games though as it can also ve useful for a few games. If you're playing a luck based gamblig game, don't bither yourself by doing maths, just hope you're going to win

It is too hassle to do math while you are playing gambling, and you are just going to be annoyed to the fullest if you did the math but you still lost, but I'm not saying you don't have to do it, because it won't help you to win, stuffs like that. Luck is still the one who plays the biggest role in gambling, so basically, if you are not lucky on gambling, even though if you are good at math, you are still going to lose.

[jennywhzz]

Indeed for gambling we have lots of confusion in it, because it is in gambling we also sometimes confused as to whether that was done right or wrong. But indeed to be able to get many of the advantages we also need calculations i.e. math, because every gambling also have the techniques or strategies so that they can get the victory. If it does not we do or we just let go about what we do, then the results will be obtained as just an unfortunate thing.

The fact is that in most cases, those people who play gambling and who met me, are not more than lucky in this matter. But I've heard a lot of stories about the fact that it is the math experts who are good players. But this was still hoped for by anyone.

I just don't get it, how can Math play any role in gambling. Gambling is just by luck and you don;t need to be expert in complex mathematical formulas to be able to win in gambling. We have Dice games, slot games , numbers games where there is no use of maths. Maybe if you are a developer than Math can really help in developing a more strategic site buy only playing gambling needs no math.

[megynacuna]

Indeed for gambling we have lots of confusion in it, because it is in gambling we also sometimes confused as to whether that was done right or wrong. But indeed to be able to get many of the advantages we also need calculations i.e. math, because every gambling also have the techniques or strategies so that they can get the victory. If it does not we do or we just let go about what we do, then the results will be obtained as just an unfortunate thing.

The fact is that in most cases, those people who play gambling and who met me, are not more than lucky in this matter. But I've heard a lot of stories about the fact that it is the math experts who are good players. But this was still hoped for by anyone.

I just don't get it, how can Math play any role in gambling. Gambling is just by luck and you don;t need to be expert in complex mathematical formulas to be able to win in gambling. We have Dice games, slot games , numbers games where there is no use of maths. Maybe if you are a developer than Math can really help in developing a more strategic site buy only playing gambling needs no math.

All those games you listed above are luck based games and I agree with you that maths can't play any role in making you win then but there are strategic gambling games line sports betting where you can apply your analytical insight into making future predictions. These are just internal skills that you develop over time according to your knowledge of the game.

[JL421]

To win in gambling not only maths will help you have to apply on the right timing and at the right move. Otherwise maths has no use in gambling to win. To win in gambling along with maths smartness and the strategic move only lead you to win.

maths doesn't have much of use in gambling it can help us sometimes to predict the roll but
the most and only important thing in gambling is luck if you dont have any luck you will never
be able to make any profit

Yes, that is correct. Maths only help to reduce your losing chances but to win our bet we much be a lucky person on that day.

maths can help in sports betting though we can compare the scores of the team previous result
or even the same match which has been played in the past with this we can find out if the team is
is going to win or lose

[cjmoles]

Indeed for gambling we have lots of confusion in it, because it is in gambling we also sometimes confused as to whether that was done right or wrong. But indeed to be able to get many of the advantages we also need calculations i.e. math, because every gambling also have the techniques or strategies so that they can get the victory. If it does not we do or we just let go about what we do, then the results will be obtained as just an unfortunate thing.

The fact is that in most cases, those people who play gambling and who met me, are not more than lucky in this matter. But I've heard a lot of stories about the fact that it is the math experts who are good players. But this was still hoped for by anyone.

I just don't get it, how can Math play any role in gambling. Gambling is just by luck and you don;t need to be expert in complex mathematical formulas to be able to win in gambling. We have Dice games, slot games , numbers games where there is no use of maths. Maybe if you are a developer than Math can really help in developing a more strategic site buy only playing gambling needs no math.

May I ask:  How do the casinos always win?  Are they just very lucky?  Or, do they have math in their favor?  The main thing to understand is that it is ALL math ---> ALL OF IT IS MATH!  If you play when the odds are against you because you believe in "luck" and you lose, it's your fault for not believing the math.  Math helps you to understand when the odds are against you.  Do the math and if the math demonstrates that the odds are against you, then don't play that game ---> Find an event where the odds are in your favor  <---- It's that easy! 

[m1c0]

of course maths can help in gambling, I would never gamble on something that has a very bad return on investment, for example 10% chance to win 5x is super bad. Thats why I love sports betting and poker because you can avoid bad deals

[rocketbits]

This is all you need. In fact if you are able to calculate when to bet and how much to bet you can win in any game.

Let's say you toss a coin.
You got only two options heads or tails.
so it will monitor and tell you when to bet.
As for the first toss to be hears (or tails) is 50% it will tell you to bet 0.
Second time to toss heads again has fallen to 25% and so on until you decide you are ok to bet.
So if you say it is only luck, and you are totally unlucky, you can set this to be lower then 1%.
So once you hit that odds you make a bet and you win, if not you can then double your bet and so on until you win, as by then the possibility will get insane low (better chance to be killed by alien bacteria that has just arrived from a meteoroid that has just landed on the other side of the platen in the next 5 seconds...

So no matter how unlucky you are math can help you win in any game of chance, you just need to understand the math and know how to use it.

I can't believe what I am reading.
You sound like you know all gambling secrets, how to beat casino and I wonder why do you wear signature when you can beat casino with your math and strategies.
Also this whole toss story is wrong. You can toss coin 50 times, bet on head and it can fall on head 51 times, each roll is independent and your chance is always 50%, no matter how many times you toss coin. Chance for such combination(51 heads) is 0.0000000000001% but that is something different.

Honestly I don't understand one thing why people put this much effort in gambling. It is just a game so take it as a game. There’s no need to go through all these troubles and difficult calculations, wearing out your brain spending a lot of time and even then do not coming up with a perfect solution. It’s better to live a cool life   and put your efforts in the right direction.  Play small bets and enjoy.

[RealPhotoshoper]

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

Maybe math can help us win on roulette or in dice games in terms of calculating how much reds will go for our bankroll. But still in gambling we still need some luck and must know how to stop when we have profit and not to be greedy....

They are random, math cannot help you to choose the correct bet but it can only help you to manage your bankroll.
It's a game where we have to consider playing it for fun only since there is a house edge and you will never win in the long run, let's be matured and know the difference of skilled based games to luck based, so we will decide on how we are going to manage our bets and bankroll.

At least with math you can see the odds how much you win the game , will it be worth or not etc.
But yeaa i don't know if there is a certain technical way to do math to make you have higher chance to win.
For me Those people who knows well about math might stay away from gambling just like what einstein said about to win a game on roulette always impossible .

[oHnK]

At least with math you can see the odds how much you win the game , will it be worth or not etc.
But yeaa i don't know if there is a certain technical way to do math to make you have higher chance to win.
For me Those people who knows well about math might stay away from gambling just like what einstein said about to win a game on roulette always impossible .

We can only know the odds but we know that even with maths we cant win the game. So for me it is just to troublesome to figure things out with math. It is better to just let everything flow in accordance to what the thing is. We cant win in gambling and we need to be aware of that. That is why it is better to forget everything and just play for fun

[cjmoles]

Grrrrr!

Anybody who says that math can't help is delusional.

If we played heads or tails, and the rules were that heads you pay me 1.2 cents and tails I pay you 1.0 cents, then I would win your money in the long run because by probability the number of heads rolled would closely approximate the number of tails rolled in large samples, right?

That's how it works when you play against house odds ---> they just mix the math up so you don't realize it.

That's why math is important.  It helps you decide if the game is going to work with you or against you.  If the odds are against you, like above, find another game in which the odds are in your favor.  In other words, find a mark that will take your 1.2 to 1 bet, as above ---> find somebody who thinks gambling is all luck and no math ---> that's how you win!

[Dodoymabs]

Indeed for gambling we have lots of confusion in it, because it is in gambling we also sometimes confused as to whether that was done right or wrong. But indeed to be able to get many of the advantages we also need calculations i.e. math, because every gambling also have the techniques or strategies so that they can get the victory. If it does not we do or we just let go about what we do, then the results will be obtained as just an unfortunate thing.

The fact is that in most cases, those people who play gambling and who met me, are not more than lucky in this matter. But I've heard a lot of stories about the fact that it is the math experts who are good players. But this was still hoped for by anyone.

Being good at math is an advantage when you're involved in gambling. Especially playing cards because you need to calculate and analyze what was already thrown away. But in other cases like playing dice and roulette it does not require math only lucky is your hope.

[barbara44]

Mathematics is very useful in our everyday life. My teacher told us that if we want to get rich, we must first be financially intelligent. He also told us that if we are sad, all we can do is reach for a calculator and compute for the amount of money we might own in the future.

Math is helpful in gambling because you can learn about the probabilities and chances that is happening in gambling. Gambling is always a risk because there are gambles that the lose chances are higher than the chances of winning.

I like the example of your teacher. However, dreaming without commitment is not sufficient enough to reach your goal and be rich. For me, I do not need math to gamble and it does not help me to win. All I need and require is a logical mind and a mind of prediction.

It is a fact that math is logic, but my logic is different. I use logic based on common sense and other different things that allow me to predict and win without attempting to calculate. 

I don't think that math or anything can help a gambler to win his bets. In random games, we cannot make accurate predictions and Gambling is a random game. If not all then most of the games that are played in casinos are pure luck.

For examples, roulette dice and slot are unpredictable. We can find the probability of an outcome and nothing else can be calculated, not with a good accuracy rate.

[cjmoles]

The people in this thread who are subscribing to the "gambling is all luck and no math" ideology are the reason casinos operators are getting so wealthy!  As long as you keep believing that it is all luck and no math, the casino operators will continue to generate a steady income.  If you understood the math ---> you wouldn't be throwing away your money!

[TheKeyLongThumbI]

Math is very different on how gambling works. Math is all about computations while gambling is picking or betting any number or sides from your own guesses. The outcome to mathematics is always the right number while the outcome of gambling is a random number.

[cjmoles]

Math is very different on how gambling works. Math is all about computations while gambling is picking or betting any number or sides from your own guesses. The outcome to mathematics is always the right number while the outcome of gambling is a random number.

Are you trying to tell us that calculating probabilities is not math?  That standard deviations, normal curves, variance, and all the formulas applied in statistical analysis are not real?  They are real and the casinos employ them when they are creating their games ---> they understand the math and that's why they win!