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December 06, 2017, 07:34:56 AM
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I think it helps with roulette a bit. Of course it depends on luck but I'm talking only about the "help". Also I think if you are a math person you have better options of being a good poker player.  Smiley

Well it really boils down to what game you're going to use math on. It certainly won't help you on games that's purely luck reliant like dice and slots. Aside from calculating the money you're going to burn of course.
Yes gambling is far from calculating and math is not an option when we play gambling. Gambling games rely solely on luck and that is a matter of course. If you see anyone saying that he can win the gambling with the help of mathematical calculations then it is a lie !! do not believe and use your mind!

So you want to tell me that all casino owners are the luckiest people on the planet, as they allays win!
You are sooo wrong.. you say "gambling is pure luck" then "use your brain"...
What you mean? That you can use your brain to be lucky?!?!?

All games of chance are 100% pure math, so casino owners are using math in order to win 100% guarantee.
There is no luck in this.
If you know what math is and how to use it, then it will help you, if you don't => nothing will help you.


If math’s is that great that it can tell future with hundred percent accuracy then why you don’t just gamble and win every bet. This way you will become the world's richest person in no time, believe me.

As far as the owners of the casino or gambling websites are concerned, they are the owner which means they can win all the games they play as that is their yard. They are the king of that Empire. However I don't think they gamble and nothing can predict luck or future.
Lol, At least there is someone who understands that mathematics has to do nothing with winning gambling bet or losing it. Gambling is the game which is totally dependent on your luck. This is the only reason there are not as such experts of gambling.

No one can ever tell you how to win the bet, they will simply give you some suggestions about leaving the game when you have some good profit. Gambling is the only game which has no strategies.

I'll have to strongly disagree with you and would like to tell you that it all depends on what kind of gambling you are doing. Playing slots - fine, there's no strategies you can apply and you are relying on luck to get profits but other games like card games, mainly poker, or sports betting does require you to think and calculate. Poker is basically all about maths as you predict over a long streak of hands the chances of your hand beating his hand etc. So by saying all gambling is pure luck is just wrong.

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December 06, 2017, 08:32:38 AM
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Math can help you to stand a chance against the house. Math can make you last a little longer but in the end we all know that its house who wins. No matter what or how big mathematician you are. Probability always favor the house.
Yep! If you are going into land based casinos, then definitely you are unable to win the age without the courtesy of the house. The results are usually preplanned and even same complaints have been seen against online gambling games.

No matter what type of gambling you play, the one who is always in profit is the house. This is the reason why I hate gambling because no matter how good you are at mathematics, it is not going to help you.

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December 07, 2017, 04:33:41 AM
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LUCK can be on your side not maths
As luck plays a key role in gambling not the math because gambling totally revolves around luck. This we can prove from the fact that not every gambler who is good in math wins every game, also the players who are more experienced but very weak in math win in more ratio because there experience to tackle situations is more. Math can help a gambler to avoid taking wrong decisions but here also experience has more priority than math.
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December 07, 2017, 07:41:35 AM
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I do not think math will helps you to win in gambling because all of this are base on the luck of every players even you are more experienced gambler you can not take that as advantage to the players having great luck in gambling even they are only new in gambling.
Why? Playing gambling need some strategies. Knowledge about math is also strategy that you can use when playing gambling. In order for you to win sometimes you need to use strategies.
I didn’t agree with your statement that math is related to strategies. If it’s true then the people having little or no knowledge of math can never ever win because they are unable to make strategies.

Strategies are something related to how sharp your mind is and how easily you pick up things happening around you and if you have great sense of vision then it will be easier for you to make strategies than those have knowledge of math.
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December 07, 2017, 08:53:58 AM
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LUCK can be on your side not maths
As luck plays a key role in gambling not the math because gambling totally revolves around luck. This we can prove from the fact that not every gambler who is good in math wins every game, also the players who are more experienced but very weak in math win in more ratio because there experience to tackle situations is more. Math can help a gambler to avoid taking wrong decisions but here also experience has more priority than math.
Exactly I do agree with your words, gambling is mainly based on luck so how come maths plays a role in playing gambling. Maths can be helpful for trading, maths nothing to do with gambling. Gamblers never think of about maths, only traders are in line with maths
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December 07, 2017, 05:38:13 PM
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of course maths can help in gambling, I would never gamble on something that has a very bad return on investment, for example 10% chance to win 5x is super bad. Thats why I love sports betting and poker because you can avoid bad deals
sports betting has higher risks involved all the double odds have less chance of wiining most
of the time and when you are betting low the reward is really less plus you are in risk of losing
all your funds sports betting are for people who are completely sure
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December 10, 2017, 08:34:00 AM
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If the type of gambling you're getting into is matched betting or Poker, then of course math can help you win. You can calculate the odds of certain hands appearing, calculate your value bets etc.
Poker may sound more like it but trust me mate, you are still calculating odds and as long as you keep doing that, everything still centers on your luck. Mathematics can only help to a certain extent, but to a full extent, luck is still the main backbone of every gamble. Most times, I do ask myself, if all of you on the poker table are good at math, what then happens ?

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December 10, 2017, 08:45:11 AM
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Since i'm not very fund of maths i can't really use it or deploy my mathematical mind in anything except for calculating how much will the groceries cost me . So i can't really use that in my favor while gambling . And i think that whenever someone uses it , he can be considered as cheating .
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December 10, 2017, 10:27:53 AM
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So you want to tell me that all casino owners are the luckiest people on the planet, as they allays win!
You are sooo wrong.. you say "gambling is pure luck" then "use your brain"...
What you mean? That you can use your brain to be lucky?!?!?

All games of chance are 100% pure math, so casino owners are using math in order to win 100% guarantee.
There is no luck in this.
If you know what math is and how to use it, then it will help you, if you don't => nothing will help you.
They are not luckiest players in planet, they are not even players, they are casino owners and math is working - for them. They have house edge on their side, they have advantage over players. But this is not point of this topic. We are not discussing "can math help casino owners" read topic again, read article if you haven't done it already.
Math won't help you to win in game with negative expected value because it is game with bloody negative expected value.
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I'll have to strongly disagree with you and would like to tell you that it all depends on what kind of gambling you are doing. Playing slots - fine, there's no strategies you can apply and you are relying on luck to get profits but other games like card games, mainly poker, or sports betting does require you to think and calculate. Poker is basically all about maths as you predict over a long streak of hands the chances of your hand beating his hand etc. So by saying all gambling is pure luck is just wrong.
Poker is game of skills(proven 88% skills and 10% luck) and good money management, that's why lots players are making a living of it, sports betting does have house edge and it is ev- game, i know at least hundred bettors, thinking they are professional sport bettors, looking all day at odds, calculating everything and yet they are in negative profit. But still, when they win they all always say the same- "did I tell you? You didn't listen to me you could have won". Of course, there are certain people who are so damn good in prediction that they really can make living out of it but they are just very rare, also there are people who made living out of gambling because they are super lucky but they are also very rare.
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December 10, 2017, 03:04:43 PM
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LUCK can be on your side not maths
As luck plays a key role in gambling not the math because gambling totally revolves around luck. This we can prove from the fact that not every gambler who is good in math wins every game, also the players who are more experienced but very weak in math win in more ratio because there experience to tackle situations is more. Math can help a gambler to avoid taking wrong decisions but here also experience has more priority than math.
Exactly I do agree with your words, gambling is mainly based on luck so how come maths plays a role in playing gambling. Maths can be helpful for trading, maths nothing to do with gambling. Gamblers never think of about maths, only traders are in line with maths
I do accept what you are telling without luck you cannot win any game. Even I also don't know how people use math in gambling. But I heard that people could do calculations when they play skill games. I will just calculate how much I lost and how much I gain apart from this I will not do any calculation while playing gambling.
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December 10, 2017, 03:08:27 PM
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LUCK can be on your side not maths
As luck plays a key role in gambling not the math because gambling totally revolves around luck. This we can prove from the fact that not every gambler who is good in math wins every game, also the players who are more experienced but very weak in math win in more ratio because there experience to tackle situations is more. Math can help a gambler to avoid taking wrong decisions but here also experience has more priority than math.
Exactly I do agree with your words, gambling is mainly based on luck so how come maths plays a role in playing gambling. Maths can be helpful for trading, maths nothing to do with gambling. Gamblers never think of about maths, only traders are in line with maths
I do accept what you are telling without luck you cannot win any game. Even I also don't know how people use math in gambling. But I heard that people could do calculations when they play skill games. I will just calculate how much I lost and how much I gain apart from this I will not do any calculation while playing gambling.
There are really players who do make use of calculation regarding on their bets either on risking a certain amount to possibly win some amount. We dont know such thing since we arent there to play it. We do have different fields knowing that there are lots of types of gambling games which would differently need different strategies.Some may help some may not as being said here luck would really be always the main thing why we do won.

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December 10, 2017, 03:14:49 PM
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440
There are many perceptions regarding this topic but i don't think math can help you win in roulette or any other game , though it could help you at at some extent but not winning. If a person is familiar with the concept of combinations and permutations then the math can be really useful to the person.
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December 10, 2017, 03:16:34 PM
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Nah.. It's all luck brotherr..
Or count cars, which probably isn't a good idea lol

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December 10, 2017, 03:24:30 PM
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No maths can't determine the results if they are probably fair but math's probability equations can find out probability of your winning which will not allow you to win anything, it will just give you idea what is your chance of winning that bet.

Gambling is purely based on your luck.

 
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December 10, 2017, 03:57:39 PM
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No maths can't determine the results if they are probably fair but math's probability equations can find out probability of your winning which will not allow you to win anything, it will just give you idea what is your chance of winning that bet.

Gambling is purely based on your luck.
Yes bro, it can be used as basis but we cant relied on it, its always luck who will bring profits but nonetheless no actual source of information which we can get to help us even math cant calculate that, just an assumptions but nothing is for sure.

Luck, and only luck will bring good result inside our gambling activity.
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December 10, 2017, 04:27:39 PM
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Maths can help you to make the strategy to win in gambling but it is not guarantee you the winning but it will lead you to the winning post. Basically in gambling only luck only reflect in winning nothing else it is my personal experience. 

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December 10, 2017, 04:33:12 PM
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Sometimes. Most of the gambling games are about numbers so when we are talking about numbers mathematics will exist. In some games you should know how to count, add, subtract, multiply and divide because this is how you will win the game.
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December 10, 2017, 07:38:28 PM
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Maths could help us win in gambling if you're playing the right game . Example : Poker ... Of course lucky is the decided thing.
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December 10, 2017, 07:43:22 PM
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Maths could help us win in gambling if you're playing the right game . Example : Poker ... Of course lucky is the decided thing.

Not only poker but also sports. If you analyze the leagues and games and if you develop a system and good staking plan you can use maths and probability to bet smart and to be in profits. You don't need to have high win rate, you just need to realize what probabilities you are working with.
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December 10, 2017, 08:50:49 PM
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Maths for me only valid once and can't be used for longterm. In gambling, any possibility can always happen so that maths can be countered with ease.
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