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December 11, 2017, 10:44:21 AM
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When you bet as an expert in a game of gambling you already take into account your 'experience' which is nothing but fixed patterns in your brain and how you are well used to the game. Mathematics also can deal with these patterns in terms of probabilities and can help to some extent in predicting the outcome of a bet.

Tossing a coin can give you head or tail. 50% chance for either of the two. But if you continuously get a 'tail' it is just a coincidence but the person tossing the coin and which coin is used and where it is being tossed - all these can be accounted for - to create a pattern in prediction. In the same way in any gambling maths can help to a certain extent.

But when you take games like blackjack or roulette the number of parameters affecting the game are very high. Further, the variance is too high to make a prediction as the study probabilities will not help determining the outcome. It is alright to play once in a while but continuous gambling will lead to doom! All prediction is to help you at what time point you should stop playing!
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December 11, 2017, 12:25:57 PM
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When you bet as an expert in a game of gambling you already take into account your 'experience' which is nothing but fixed patterns in your brain and how you are well used to the game. Mathematics also can deal with these patterns in terms of probabilities and can help to some extent in predicting the outcome of a bet.

Tossing a coin can give you head or tail. 50% chance for either of the two. But if you continuously get a 'tail' it is just a coincidence but the person tossing the coin and which coin is used and where it is being tossed - all these can be accounted for - to create a pattern in prediction. In the same way in any gambling maths can help to a certain extent.

But when you take games like blackjack or roulette the number of parameters affecting the game are very high. Further, the variance is too high to make a prediction as the study probabilities will not help determining the outcome. It is alright to play once in a while but continuous gambling will lead to doom! All prediction is to help you at what time point you should stop playing!

Predictions are almost always non-existent, I agree with you there.. Getting stuck in a mindset that you somehow can tell the future is extremely dangerous and even though you may have been lucky 10 times in the past that does not mean you will automatically be correct the next 10 times.

I agree that the patterns some people get suck in are dangerous. I should know as I've been stuck in the same mindset previously.. All good now though Cheesy.

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December 11, 2017, 06:51:27 PM
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When you bet as an expert in a game of gambling you already take into account your 'experience' which is nothing but fixed patterns in your brain and how you are well used to the game. Mathematics also can deal with these patterns in terms of probabilities and can help to some extent in predicting the outcome of a bet.

Tossing a coin can give you head or tail. 50% chance for either of the two. But if you continuously get a 'tail' it is just a coincidence but the person tossing the coin and which coin is used and where it is being tossed - all these can be accounted for - to create a pattern in prediction. In the same way in any gambling maths can help to a certain extent.

But when you take games like blackjack or roulette the number of parameters affecting the game are very high. Further, the variance is too high to make a prediction as the study probabilities will not help determining the outcome. It is alright to play once in a while but continuous gambling will lead to doom! All prediction is to help you at what time point you should stop playing!

Predictions are almost always non-existent, I agree with you there.. Getting stuck in a mindset that you somehow can tell the future is extremely dangerous and even though you may have been lucky 10 times in the past that does not mean you will automatically be correct the next 10 times.

I agree that the patterns some people get suck in are dangerous. I should know as I've been stuck in the same mindset previously.. All good now though Cheesy.

Maths is best when you want to calculate but it will not at any point help in the determination of a right bet/decision to gamble and hence i will conclusively state that it can  not help you win in gambling. Even certain gambling games are based on pure luck and not skill and  so even the molst skillful mathematician will could fail at those games.
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December 15, 2017, 08:27:00 AM
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Maths could help us win in gambling if you're playing the right game . Example : Poker ... Of course lucky is the decided thing.

Not only poker but also sports. If you analyze the leagues and games and if you develop a system and good staking plan you can use maths and probability to bet smart and to be in profits. You don't need to have high win rate, you just need to realize what probabilities you are working with.
I wasn’t able to make a link between math and winning of a sports match by some team. I mean, how really this is possible because as far as my knowledge is concerned the only thing that enables a team to win is just their own efforts not the math.  I guess you want to say that they solve questions of math and practice different formulas before the playing the match, if they do I haven’t heard about such blooper.

Well not really. Stats and records are numbers that can affect the result of any sport. Figuring out the math to see which player or team has the advantage can really give you a big advantage

 
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December 15, 2017, 09:08:08 AM
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Gambling is an uncertain game and we just rely on luck. I do not think mathematics would matter in the gambling game. Whatever we do like doing calculations then it will not have a significant impact. Mathematics will not mean in gambling and gambling does not require math to be able to achieve victory. Only luck can change everything. So multiply prayer than you should think to calculate what you want to get.
It can use but it doesn't guarantees winning, most often gambling relies on luck, it doesn't matter whether you calculate it for long hours or long days it will not really determines the probability of winning.
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December 15, 2017, 09:19:30 AM
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Gambling is an uncertain game and we just rely on luck. I do not think mathematics would matter in the gambling game. Whatever we do like doing calculations then it will not have a significant impact. Mathematics will not mean in gambling and gambling does not require math to be able to achieve victory. Only luck can change everything. So multiply prayer than you should think to calculate what you want to get.
It can use but it doesn't guarantees winning, most often gambling relies on luck, it doesn't matter whether you calculate it for long hours or long days it will not really determines the probability of winning.

Not most often but always gambling relies on luck. If we are not lucky then there is no way for us to win. Sometimes we think that we are one of those lucky player but in fact we are not. The math formula is just going to let us know what our chances to win so it helps us in a way as well so I wouldnt say that it is useless at this point
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December 15, 2017, 12:33:53 PM
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interesting😃... sometimes it helps because in gambling you need to be alert also in figure, it makes sense when you’re good in mathematics because usually a gambler is fast to calculate on figures, therefore yes math can also help in some ways, but of course in gmbling, Luck also plays role always, because if it is your lucky day day, it should be your win day too😃
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December 15, 2017, 03:39:22 PM
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I'm not sure mathematics can affect the victory of a gambling. I am more sure if a gambler makes more practices on his or her skills and being good at playing a gambling trick, then a greater victory may become hers or his.

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December 16, 2017, 06:26:37 AM
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Maths could help us win in gambling if you're playing the right game . Example : Poker ... Of course lucky is the decided thing.

Not only poker but also sports. If you analyze the leagues and games and if you develop a system and good staking plan you can use maths and probability to bet smart and to be in profits. You don't need to have high win rate, you just need to realize what probabilities you are working with.
I wasn’t able to make a link between math and winning of a sports match by some team. I mean, how really this is possible because as far as my knowledge is concerned the only thing that enables a team to win is just their own efforts not the math.  I guess you want to say that they solve questions of math and practice different formulas before the playing the match, if they do I haven’t heard about such blooper.
Math is something totally different from the winning of some sports team. As you said that teams win their matches by hard practices and putting all of their efforts which at last bore fruits for them. Math can only help them to make their strategies of how to play, in what circumstances which decision is to be made and things like that; it cannot help them win the match because no player had ever said that math was helpful for them in winning however they usually say their efforts bore fruit.
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December 16, 2017, 07:29:09 PM
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I'm not sure mathematics can affect the victory of a gambling. I am more sure if a gambler makes more practices on his or her skills and being good at playing a gambling trick, then a greater victory may become hers or his.
Hard efforts always gives you a better result. Doesn’t matter either it is gambling or trading or any other chore related to any walk of life. Whenever you put your maximum in something, it just turns out to be amazing with most efficient results. Things are always there for you, need is only to make some better strategies so that luck is your way to welcome you and happiness is there for you.
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December 16, 2017, 08:14:46 PM
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Math is good for calculating the odds that are in your favor. The only game that is known worldwide that has the strict rule that forbids the counting of the cards is the BlackJack in the land-based casinos. Before some time technique of the counting cards was so popular that most casinos had forbidden this and were looking for the possible counters trough the cameras. Today in this game cards are divided into more decks so it is impossible to count the cards. For this subject that you mentioned math is only possible to count possible outcome but it is not 100 percent sure and the luck is the main factor that decides on your win in the end.

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December 16, 2017, 11:08:27 PM
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Math is good for calculating the odds that are in your favor. The only game that is known worldwide that has the strict rule that forbids the counting of the cards is the BlackJack in the land-based casinos. Before some time technique of the counting cards was so popular that most casinos had forbidden this and were looking for the possible counters trough the cameras. Today in this game cards are divided into more decks so it is impossible to count the cards. For this subject that you mentioned math is only possible to count possible outcome but it is not 100 percent sure and the luck is the main factor that decides on your win in the end.
Yes, but in the trend of game today that are mostly computer generated gambling game i think math calculation cannnot be use since computer will generate in every game at random mode so its all unpredicatable, it depends only if your luck strike and that is the reality of gambling.
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December 17, 2017, 12:03:02 AM
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I'm not sure mathematics can affect the victory of a gambling. I am more sure if a gambler makes more practices on his or her skills and being good at playing a gambling trick, then a greater victory may become hers or his.
Hard efforts always gives you a better result. Doesn’t matter either it is gambling or trading or any other chore related to any walk of life. Whenever you put your maximum in something, it just turns out to be amazing with most efficient results. Things are always there for you, need is only to make some better strategies so that luck is your way to welcome you and happiness is there for you.

But somehow I'm not convinced that hard work will help you to win money from gambling because as for as I know it only needs your luck to give you money, not your hard work. I do agree that if you put more efforts you can make money from trading because if you gain knowledge then you can increase your profits in trading. But in gambling, if you try to work hard every day then slowly you may addict to these games and start losing money instead of making money.
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December 17, 2017, 03:13:32 PM
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Well all gambling games without exceptions, have probabilities in them and grasping that concept is what will make you win more. Math is a powerful tool and it could make a beginner guy have a better win ratio than someone who have been playing for a long time and doesnt have any clue in probabilties or statistics.
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December 17, 2017, 11:01:09 PM
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i heard some people have the ability to count cards and that give them an edge when they are gambling at the casino, i really don't know whether it entails some mathematical calculations or not but it really does work.
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December 17, 2017, 11:09:33 PM
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The answer to your question is very simple: If math can help you winning in roulette, the casinos would be already broke, wouldn't they? The only game I know where math can help you to win is poker, because here you can calculate your odds to determine your bets or calls or allins.
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December 18, 2017, 02:15:11 AM
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it will only help in sport.. in casino game such as roulette,cards,etc there is no hope.. house always win  Grin

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December 18, 2017, 05:41:07 AM
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There could math, statistics can be use in calculating the probabilty of your bet but its not that helpful because when you are betting in rollete its easy to see that which bet has more lesser probabality in amount of winnings e.g. 2x winnings high higher chances 26x. Also martingale method involves math but its not help you to win but only provide a chance of recovering on win after losing streaks.When it comes to winning in roullete and most form of gambling its more on luck than math or anybother techniques

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December 18, 2017, 07:58:46 AM
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Maths could help us win in gambling if you're playing the right game . Example : Poker ... Of course lucky is the decided thing.

Not only poker but also sports. If you analyze the leagues and games and if you develop a system and good staking plan you can use maths and probability to bet smart and to be in profits. You don't need to have high win rate, you just need to realize what probabilities you are working with.
I wasn’t able to make a link between math and winning of a sports match by some team. I mean, how really this is possible because as far as my knowledge is concerned the only thing that enables a team to win is just their own efforts not the math.  I guess you want to say that they solve questions of math and practice different formulas before the playing the match, if they do I haven’t heard about such blooper.

Well not really. Stats and records are numbers that can affect the result of any sport. Figuring out the math to see which player or team has the advantage can really give you a big advantage
I completely agree with your saying that math cannot help the team from winning the game, it’s just the hard work of the team and their determination which leads them to success not the math. I just want to add that math can only help them in a way to make their line-up that which line-up will help them more in winning the game. This is the only thing that I was able to relate with sports and nothing more to relate.
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December 18, 2017, 09:13:52 AM
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The answer to your question is very simple: If math can help you winning in roulette, the casinos would be already broke, wouldn't they? The only game I know where math can help you to win is poker, because here you can calculate your odds to determine your bets or calls or allins.
Math can't make you guaranteed to win, math can only predict how much your chance to win and it's clearly stated based on a lot of research that no one can beat the house edge in the long run include roulette. Then now it's up to you to understand about that definition.

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