Can maths help you win in gambling ?

[katiecbell]

not completely, we need math to accelerate us in counting. for victory, luck is the most decisive.

Math could helps us in gambling but we can never rely on math alone every time we play gambling, just like what you have said, luck is still playing the big role in gambling, if we are just a newly comers in the gambling world and have the confident that we could win then probably we will just lose, I guess, in order to win in gambling, you must also need the experience.

I once had a friend who is so good with mathematics and probability was even his best subject. He relied on using that to gamble and making the best use of it but I guess I do not need to tell you how he ended up and it took a lot of intervention himself, relatives and friends to get him out of that.

Gambling is not all about the math that you know, it is all about luck and anyone that is trying to be dependent on math, will obviously rely too much that they mess up big time.

[Betwrong]

Just yesterday I saw a promo video about Daniel Negreanu's masterclass where he was saying that you have to apply math, apart from other things, to poker in order to win more frequently. Although I agree that knowing probability can help in poker, I think that math can't help you in other games, where it's already taken into account, meaning that the higher probability of you winning a bet the lower the reward you get in case of winning.

[Pan Troglodytes]

Just yesterday I saw a promo video about Daniel Negreanu's masterclass where he was saying that you have to apply math, apart from other things, to poker in order to win more frequently. Although I agree that knowing probability can help in poker, I think that math can't help you in other games, where it's already taken into account, meaning that the higher probability of you winning a bet the lower the reward you get in case of winning.

His statement is true in relation to poker, but you are not 100% accurate: there are other games where math can help you: whenever luck is not the only factor, you might make decisions influencing the gameplay, then there is a chance to use math and make sound decisions (in comparison to making emotional decisions which are usually poor). But of course in a number of games math cannot help you because the decision you make is only illusoric (you decide between equally probable possibilities, all leading eventually to negative expactation).

[Elai101]

Just yesterday I saw a promo video about Daniel Negreanu's masterclass where he was saying that you have to apply math, apart from other things, to poker in order to win more frequently. Although I agree that knowing probability can help in poker, I think that math can't help you in other games, where it's already taken into account, meaning that the higher probability of you winning a bet the lower the reward you get in case of winning.

His statement is true in relation to poker, but you are not 100% accurate: there are other games where math can help you: whenever luck is not the only factor, you might make decisions influencing the gameplay, then there is a chance to use math and make sound decisions (in comparison to making emotional decisions which are usually poor). But of course in a number of games math cannot help you because the decision you make is only illusoric (you decide between equally probable possibilities, all leading eventually to negative expactation).

Mathematics is not nesecary useful in gambling, their are some aspects but not all.Their are games doesn't invovle math like some of online games. Strategy and luck are the most helpful one plus the positive view of mind.

[StarofBTC]

not completely, we need math to accelerate us in counting. for victory, luck is the most decisive.

Gambling is purely luck dependent thing and saying this that math can help in winning the gambling game would be an insane thing for me because math is not related with gambling. One thing where math is helpful for the gamblers is to maintain their record that how much he lost or won in gambling is that in future if he wants to leave the gambling, he can easily do it.

Yeah, pure luck and nothing else. A lot of people always get themselves deceived by the mentality that if they have an edge in a particular thing by making use of math or some strategy they will be able to win a lot from gambling. If that is the case, then all the best mathematicians all over the world should have sent the casinos packing all these while. Everything is all about luck and i do not see anyway math can help a living soul to win in gambling.

[Chainsmokers]

it could happen, in mathematics there are "theory of probability" this measure a possibility that occurs, and usually the example with dice. it could be math predicting it, but it's in offline gambling not in online gambling.

[Pan Troglodytes]

Just yesterday I saw a promo video about Daniel Negreanu's masterclass where he was saying that you have to apply math, apart from other things, to poker in order to win more frequently. Although I agree that knowing probability can help in poker, I think that math can't help you in other games, where it's already taken into account, meaning that the higher probability of you winning a bet the lower the reward you get in case of winning.

His statement is true in relation to poker, but you are not 100% accurate: there are other games where math can help you: whenever luck is not the only factor, you might make decisions influencing the gameplay, then there is a chance to use math and make sound decisions (in comparison to making emotional decisions which are usually poor). But of course in a number of games math cannot help you because the decision you make is only illusoric (you decide between equally probable possibilities, all leading eventually to negative expactation).

Mathematics is not nesecary useful in gambling, their are some aspects but not all.Their are games doesn't invovle math like some of online games. Strategy and luck are the most helpful one plus the positive view of mind.

All games involve mathematics because life itself involves mathematics. If there is any room for a gambler to use math is another question altogether. If you can use use a strategy for a particular game, then you can and should choose the best strategy with the use of mathematics. On the other hand, for some games, all strategies you can use are useless because there the game is purely random-based.

As to the luck: I can bet, that if you were to play against a skillfull poker player with your luck only, you would get broke in no time.

[Bitcotalk]

not completely, we need math to accelerate us in counting. for victory, luck is the most decisive.

Math could helps us in gambling but we can never rely on math alone every time we play gambling, just like what you have said, luck is still playing the big role in gambling, if we are just a newly comers in the gambling world and have the confident that we could win then probably we will just lose, I guess, in order to win in gambling, you must also need the experience.

Who told you that math can help us to win a game in gambling? For me math only has the role in gambling for maintaining the record of the gambler that how much he lost and won in gambling so that in future when he would need this, he can easily get access over it. Luck is the only thing involved in gambling and beside this nothing is more useful and important for gambling.

Well, let's say maybe math can help one form a strategy to play with, or like you said, maintain your loss most of the time, and know how to gamble wisely, but in terms of winning as the OP asked, this is something that is luck based.

The earlier a lot of people started realizing that luck is the only thing that matters when it comes to gambling, the more they will start gambling with some level of sanity.

[Cosbycoin]

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I think the only formula that may help in gambling is probability for roulette games, but i still believe math cannot affect to gambling games even you used probability because probability is all predicting the chances. I believe it is all about luck, so if you wanted to win you need to have good luck.

Even the probability for roulette games will not still help as the only thing that can help anyone is luck and for anyone that luck is not simply on his side, the possibility of losing hugely is still going to be there. Just as you have said, probability itself is trying to predict the level of chances and the possibilities of those coming to play and we all know it is still going to be very hard to predict what comes out next exactly.

[Ranly123]

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I do believe that mathematics help affect gambling games. One of the reason is the computations of betting and the winnings. If math does not exist in gambling then gamblers will find it hard to compute their moves and their winnings.

[finzyoj]

it could happen, in mathematics there are "theory of probability" this measure a possibility that occurs, and usually the example with dice. it could be math predicting it, but it's in offline gambling not in online gambling.

Yes It can help you in playing gambling in some games because in mathematics there is a so called probability. In probability we can know what is the chance that we can win.

Its not guarantee that we can win on it because its just a matter of luck so for us to know if we have chance on our game we can use mathematics on it.

[Betwrong]

Just yesterday I saw a promo video about Daniel Negreanu's masterclass where he was saying that you have to apply math, apart from other things, to poker in order to win more frequently. Although I agree that knowing probability can help in poker, I think that math can't help you in other games, where it's already taken into account, meaning that the higher probability of you winning a bet the lower the reward you get in case of winning.

His statement is true in relation to poker, but you are not 100% accurate: there are other games where math can help you: whenever luck is not the only factor, you might make decisions influencing the gameplay, then there is a chance to use math and make sound decisions (in comparison to making emotional decisions which are usually poor). But of course in a number of games math cannot help you because the decision you make is only illusoric (you decide between equally probable possibilities, all leading eventually to negative expactation).

Mathematics is not nesecary useful in gambling, their are some aspects but not all.Their are games doesn't invovle math like some of online games. Strategy and luck are the most helpful one plus the positive view of mind.

All games involve mathematics because life itself involves mathematics. If there is any room for a gambler to use math is another question altogether. If you can use use a strategy for a particular game, then you can and should choose the best strategy with the use of mathematics. On the other hand, for some games, all strategies you can use are useless because there the game is purely random-based.

As to the luck: I can bet, that if you were to play against a skillfull poker player with your luck only, you would get broke in no time.

I disagree. I've been watching a lot of poker tournaments on YouTube and it's obvious to me that even the greatest pokers players like Daniel Negreanu, Antonio Esfandiari, Phil Ivey and Tom Dwan can not only lose once but can have a long losing streak because of the bad luck. The thing is that professional poker players tend to bluff if the card on the river turned out to be not in their favor, and in that case if their opponent has a really good hand or out of his stupidity he thinks that two Queens is a good hand, he calls and wins big. So, no, you would not get broke in no time with your luck only. But of course playing against a skillful poker player you would lose eventually, because he\she can't be always unlucky.

[cazkooo]

The thing is that professional poker players tend to bluff if the card on the river turned out to be not in their favor, and in that case if their opponent has a really good hand or out of his stupidity he thinks that two Queens is a good hand, he calls and wins big. So, no, you would not get broke in no time with your luck only. But of course playing against a skillful poker player you would lose eventually, because he\she can't be always unlucky.

Bluffing is just part of the game. Even if we play against a pro poker player, it is never a gurarantee that we are going to lose 100 %. There is no such thing as fixed percentage like that in gambling because in the end it just depends on our luck. If you think that you are lucky then you should go and try, otherwise miracle like beating pro poker player wont happen

[Betwrong]

The thing is that professional poker players tend to bluff if the card on the river turned out to be not in their favor, and in that case if their opponent has a really good hand or out of his stupidity he thinks that two Queens is a good hand, he calls and wins big. So, no, you would not get broke in no time with your luck only. But of course playing against a skillful poker player you would lose eventually, because he\she can't be always unlucky.

Bluffing is just part of the game. Even if we play against a pro poker player, it is never a gurarantee that we are going to lose 100 %. There is no such thing as fixed percentage like that in gambling because in the end it just depends on our luck. If you think that you are lucky then you should go and try, otherwise miracle like beating pro poker player wont happen

What do you mean by "If you think that you are lucky"? No one can be lucky always. One time you are lucky and another time luck is on the other person's side. That's how it is, no one is more lucky than others. That's why skillful poker players win in the long run: they have the same amount of luck as everybody else, but also they have skills in addition. I know that there are people who think that they are more lucky than others, but it's a very big mistake to think that way, especially if you do gambling.

Back on topic.  Knowing math can help you to win in poker (and in poker only imo), but it's the same old math which tells us that the win can never be guaranteed. (Well, in poker it's never guaranteed on the preflop, but of course there are situations when your win is guaranteed when the river is dealt).

[agentx44]

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

In my own personal opinion, i think maths cannot really help you in gambling because gambling is all about luck and chances, so the only thing that can help you in math is statistics. I really believe that gambling is just all about luck not in techniques and strategies.

[Lady Coquet]

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I think maths will not help you to win in gambling because gambling is all about luck that there are no exact mathematical equations or strategies that will help you to win in gambling. Having luck in gambling is your only way for you to win in gambling.

[joshy23]

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I think maths will not help you to win in gambling because gambling is all about luck that there are no exact mathematical equations or strategies that will help you to win in gambling. Having luck in gambling is your only way for you to win in gambling.

From those many answer / replied coming out from previous post, I also agree that math can be use as basis but not exactly will help us to win when we are doing some gambling, there's no real basis that after you calculate the possible outcome from the numbers of times you win or you lose or maybe the numbers of your bets you will be able to come into any conclusions that the next one that you will do will give you an assurance that you will win, there's no such things like that, unless you are lucky and its destined for you, then you will be able to win.

[akram143]

Actually gambling is full of probability so which a part of math so it can be useful to win but the fact is there were thousands of probable numbers will come in a single bet so it is impossible to find the winning match so it is just obsolete here.

[pokeronlinestatus]

not completely, we need math to accelerate us in counting. for victory, luck is the most decisive.

Gambling is purely luck dependent thing and saying this that math can help in winning the gambling game would be an insane thing for me because math is not related with gambling. One thing where math is helpful for the gamblers is to maintain their record that how much he lost or won in gambling is that in future if he wants to leave the gambling, he can easily do it.

Yeah, pure luck and nothing else. A lot of people always get themselves deceived by the mentality that if they have an edge in a particular thing by making use of math or some strategy they will be able to win a lot from gambling. If that is the case, then all the best mathematicians all over the world should have sent the casinos packing all these while. Everything is all about luck and i do not see anyway math can help a living soul to win in gambling.

Mathematics is a skill which is rare, if all the mathematicians had to play in casinos then who will teach you maths in class rooms, no one. It needs a mindset and not all the mathematicians have the same mind and do not relate your skills with only one source, they have many other sources through which they can make money.  Maths is involved in many things and in some particular games like card game and not in all games.

[AmeSakibimasu]

not completely, we need math to accelerate us in counting. for victory, luck is the most decisive.

Gambling is purely luck dependent thing and saying this that math can help in winning the gambling game would be an insane thing for me because math is not related with gambling. One thing where math is helpful for the gamblers is to maintain their record that how much he lost or won in gambling is that in future if he wants to leave the gambling, he can easily do it.

Yeah, pure luck and nothing else. A lot of people always get themselves deceived by the mentality that if they have an edge in a particular thing by making use of math or some strategy they will be able to win a lot from gambling. If that is the case, then all the best mathematicians all over the world should have sent the casinos packing all these while. Everything is all about luck and i do not see anyway math can help a living soul to win in gambling.

Mathematics is a skill which is rare, if all the mathematicians had to play in casinos then who will teach you maths in class rooms, no one. It needs a mindset and not all the mathematicians have the same mind and do not relate your skills with only one source, they have many other sources through which they can make money.  Maths is involved in many things and in some particular games like card game and not in all games.

Yeah, there is no hope for that, mathematics can never help us to win against the house. In order to win in gambling, you have to be smart, you have to realize that making money is not just about playing in gambling, it is about realizing that you should quit playing it cause you are just losing, there is no reason to continue anymore.