glendall
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2170
Merit: 1018
PredX - AI-Powered Prediction Market
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 23, 2013, 02:33:30 PM |
|
That's great news and a relief to hear. Thank you for this arrangement Sam Cole.
Thanks for taking care of this today ragin... I think everyone can be much less worried that you're going to run away with the miners now, and we can proceed to just refund this mess as best we can and move on.
|
|
|
|
nicksmith
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 23, 2013, 02:34:54 PM |
|
I think we are all still in for refund, even if it is minus the market changes, we do not want to keep our money in this GB at all.
|
|
|
|
ragingazn628 (OP)
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 23, 2013, 02:39:55 PM |
|
That's great news and a relief to hear. Thank you for this arrangement Sam Cole.
Thanks for taking care of this today ragin... I think everyone can be much less worried that you're going to run away with the miners now, and we can proceed to just refund this mess as best we can and move on.
Thank you guys again for being so very patient with me. I don't that there were a few people going crazy and skeptical about me but my word is gold. I am not going anywhere. About 20+ people in this group buy are real life friends. 3 of whom lives with me in this house. So is everyone OK with receiving their BTC back in today's price? if not Sam Cole can wait until the price drops so he can buy at a lower rate so you will get more BTC back ...
|
|
|
|
pluMmet
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 23, 2013, 02:44:07 PM |
|
BTC now plz ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
|
|
|
|
glendall
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2170
Merit: 1018
PredX - AI-Powered Prediction Market
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 23, 2013, 02:45:05 PM |
|
Yes I don't think anyone wants to stay in the group buy. If we want to be democratic we could set up a poll in a thread for folks to vote, or to a private vote through PMs to someone (I'll do it if need be). But ya, don't think that is necessary personally, as I really doubt anyone wants to stay in. How about this for a plan: We have the refund google docs sheet, lets keep building on that. Check the sheet, if you aren't on it, add yourself. We'll set a deadline of [open to suggestions] Wednesday, Friday? I'll send PM's to those people who are NOT on the refund list letting them know that they have until the deadline to claim a refund. There will undoubtedly be non-responders, they can be combined into a jupiter or two, if there are enough shares. I think it's also safe to say that there is no question that the Saturns are not going to be purchased. "re: So is everyone OK with receiving their BTC back in today's price? if not Sam Cole can wait until the price drops so he can buy at a lower rate so you will get more BTC back ... " I think this is the only way to go myself. It's just too messy otherwise. Link for the refund open doc. : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ag33NSOc15F-dGhlVGltbmZWSDBMTjR1SXRBS2dqb1E#gid=0
|
|
|
|
pluMmet
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 23, 2013, 02:47:27 PM |
|
BTW the refund list has me as pluMet with 1 'm' ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
|
|
|
|
Kushedout
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1123
Merit: 1000
SaluS - (SLS)
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 23, 2013, 02:57:03 PM |
|
Guys,
prodigits07 was at my house 2 days ago and we processed refunds. Those who paid with BTC will be getting refunds in BTC back.
I have emailed johnK so he can confirm this. Again. I am NOT here to take anyone's money... I have refunded over 500BTC+ in the Avalon Chips Group Buys. It is senseless for me to run away with any money at this point. Please be patient.
When can we expect a refund for Jupiter #2? You should still have does BTC on hand since the order was not placed. Kush, I see you're on the list for 3.0BTC. I'll make sure you get your refund ASAP. Still have not received my refund. Please refund 3.0 to 12hv7UcFgrBWLjWs5McPYP63Yza6ufT6Sw Thanks.
|
|
|
|
m_yaw
Member
![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif)
Offline
Activity: 113
Merit: 10
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 23, 2013, 03:02:27 PM |
|
Why wait with the refunds until a deadline. There are many people, including me, who really have been waiting for a long time to get their money back -> refund them as soon as possible. "re: So is everyone OK with receiving their BTC back in today's price? if not Sam Cole can wait until the price drops so he can buy at a lower rate so you will get more BTC back ... "
Yes, I am fine with that. Maybe we can also build upon the refund list originally created by danieldaniel. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0An6qwdlD-DbCdHNPLXd5Q2VYMTlMSUlOTVp3VVk4VUE#gid=0
|
|
|
|
chenchunyu88
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 23, 2013, 03:07:54 PM |
|
I am wondering if I can buyout one Saturn, and KNCminer can send one miner to me. Is there anyone would like to sell their shares to me?
|
|
|
|
chenchunyu88
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 23, 2013, 03:11:31 PM |
|
I am wondering if I can buyout one Saturn, and KNCminer can send one miner to me. Is there anyone would like to sell their shares to me? Is it possible that if I buy the shares from others in this groupbuy and KNCminer send me the miner at the scheduled date? If that's possble, I am willing to pay the BTC or USD to people who don't want this groupbuy anymore. Hi Guys/Gals
We are of course able to process refunds. After many people have contacted us indirectly and directly about this particular case. we have come to a special arrangement in this particular case only to refund in BTC. Mainly so the transaction can be seen publicly. The issue is that we will only refund based on today’s value not on the purchase value.
So I will speak to the OP again later this week for those of you who wish to have a refund that's still possible but you must agree to either keep your shares in this group buy or be refunded at today’s rate
I will speak to the OP (original poster) later this week so please make your decision clear so we can all move on
Sam
|
|
|
|
ragingazn628 (OP)
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 23, 2013, 03:17:45 PM |
|
Yes I don't think anyone wants to stay in the group buy. If we want to be democratic we could set up a poll in a thread for folks to vote, or to a private vote through PMs to someone (I'll do it if need be). But ya, don't think that is necessary personally, as I really doubt anyone wants to stay in. How about this for a plan: We have the refund google docs sheet, lets keep building on that. Check the sheet, if you aren't on it, add yourself. We'll set a deadline of [open to suggestions] Wednesday, Friday? I'll send PM's to those people who are NOT on the refund list letting them know that they have until the deadline to claim a refund. There will undoubtedly be non-responders, they can be combined into a jupiter or two, if there are enough shares. I think it's also safe to say that there is no question that the Saturns are not going to be purchased. "re: So is everyone OK with receiving their BTC back in today's price? if not Sam Cole can wait until the price drops so he can buy at a lower rate so you will get more BTC back ... " I think this is the only way to go myself. It's just too messy otherwise. Link for the refund open doc. : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ag33NSOc15F-dGhlVGltbmZWSDBMTjR1SXRBS2dqb1E#gid=0Guys that is list NOT valid. Prodigits7 said that he's refunded over 60BTC out of his own pocket. But as I can see this is NOT the case. I have all of this recorded. Sam Cole said that we have until Wednesday to decide what to do. He said he can send the BTC today (249 BTC) and everyone's refund will be reflected upon the new price. So for example: If you paid .5 BTC = $50 you will get ~.4 BTC = $52 back We can have the BTC refunded TODAY! I am wondering if I can buyout one Saturn, and KNCminer can send one miner to me. Is there anyone would like to sell their shares to me? Is it possible that if I buy the shares from others in this groupbuy and KNCminer send me the miner at the scheduled date? If that's possble, I am willing to pay the BTC or USD to people who don't want this groupbuy anymore. Hi Guys/Gals
We are of course able to process refunds. After many people have contacted us indirectly and directly about this particular case. we have come to a special arrangement in this particular case only to refund in BTC. Mainly so the transaction can be seen publicly. The issue is that we will only refund based on today’s value not on the purchase value.
So I will speak to the OP again later this week for those of you who wish to have a refund that's still possible but you must agree to either keep your shares in this group buy or be refunded at today’s rate
I will speak to the OP (original poster) later this week so please make your decision clear so we can all move on
Sam
Yes you will be able to do this if people are willing to sell you their shares. I can have the machine shipped to you either by changing the address on the order or when the machine arrives I will ship straight to you.
|
|
|
|
|
donut
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 23, 2013, 03:33:30 PM |
|
This was a great investment, with a -20% return.
|
|
|
|
stevenroose
Full Member
![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif)
Offline
Activity: 530
Merit: 100
https://www.pax-coin.io/
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 23, 2013, 03:33:57 PM |
|
I am wondering if I can buyout one Saturn, and KNCminer can send one miner to me. Is there anyone would like to sell their shares to me?
I'm very willing to sell you my shares (12 @ 0.5 btc each) for 90% of the price.
|
|
|
|
|
m_yaw
Member
![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif)
Offline
Activity: 113
Merit: 10
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 23, 2013, 03:42:51 PM |
|
@ragin: For the refund form: What should people do that made multiple transactions? Should we submit the form multiple times?
|
|
|
|
ragingazn628 (OP)
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 23, 2013, 03:44:45 PM |
|
@ragin: For the refund form: What should people do that made multiple transactions? Should we submit the form multiple times?
no just please tally up the total. Thanks. I can see it from the list I made as well.
|
|
|
|
physalis
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 23, 2013, 03:48:41 PM |
|
I am wondering if I can buyout one Saturn, and KNCminer can send one miner to me. Is there anyone would like to sell their shares to me? Is it possible that if I buy the shares from others in this groupbuy and KNCminer send me the miner at the scheduled date?
Ragin confirmed this can be arranged. I'll gladly sell you my 10 shares for the orginal price (5 BTC). Pay to 1F4VxLQGu1sbjPonrEDZV3hCtngG8NMhSX (this is also the address OP has from me) and post the tx-id. 5 BTC arriving at that address from an address in your control shall suffice as proof that my shares have been sold to you. After you've payed, please clear the rest with ragin yourself, because I just don't want to deal with this anymore, it has been long enough. PM me if you need to discuss this further
|
|
|
|
ragingazn628 (OP)
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 23, 2013, 03:50:13 PM |
|
I am wondering if I can buyout one Saturn, and KNCminer can send one miner to me. Is there anyone would like to sell their shares to me? Is it possible that if I buy the shares from others in this groupbuy and KNCminer send me the miner at the scheduled date?
Ragin confirmed this can be arranged. I'll gladly sell you my 10 shares for the orginal price (5 BTC). Pay to 1F4VxLQGu1sbjPonrEDZV3hCtngG8NMhSX (this is also the address OP has from me) and post the tx-id. 5 BTC arriving at that address from an address in your control shall suffice as proof that my shares have been sold to you. PM me if you need to discuss this further yes this can be arranged. After all of this I got to know Sam Cole quite a bit. He's a super cool guy and he's trying to help me and all of us with this refund.
|
|
|
|
fydel
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 23, 2013, 03:51:57 PM Last edit: September 23, 2013, 04:02:17 PM by fydel |
|
That's a good development. I was 90% sure my BTCs were lost and was getting very annoyed lately.
I was wrong. I apologize.
Edit: Typo
|
hamster
|
|
|
|