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Someone can resume the situation? if someone want to trade/sell ENV, how can do it? As i can see on coinmarketcap, only HitBtc is available on paper, but when you go there, there is no ENV/BTC market to trade.. so we are just fu*ked, or there are some news/new market?
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coingrowth
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August 20, 2018, 07:02:34 AM |
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The founders of this project also sleeping very deep like the CEO did maybe they got some money and moved to other project in their real life. That is the reason this project is heading towards the zero and soon we will see it get delist from current exchanges too. When we will hear any good news from them?
I don't think you are really following this project. If you do you will never post something like this. What good news will you hear from Envion? Who goes first to jail and for how long? Or maybe how much from the ICO funds are still left and when will be returned? Even if there will be an answer for any of this questions you can't consider them as good because there is no good news from Envion and there will be not in the future. This is a full scam and the end of Envion. Yes, we are not getting any updates from the team because there are many complaints about the project, Envion made a lot of promises they will share the dividends in the month of the August but till now, we never hear any word from the team.
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BivanF
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August 20, 2018, 07:43:50 AM |
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the money i invested in this project was a lot " for me " , i had very big hopes for this project but it is hard to find any good news about this project , all the last page's are full with negative news , my hope is that you are all wrong but i doubt it
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dr.cheema
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August 20, 2018, 09:29:46 AM |
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the money i invested in this project was a lot " for me " , i had very big hopes for this project but it is hard to find any good news about this project , all the last page's are full with negative news , my hope is that you are all wrong but i doubt it
Well if we think about past time when envion ICO finished, i really surprised that envion collected $106 million. But now many crypto mates lost the trust in new ICO's. As we know that there were overwhelming bounty participants but they waste time. Now question is.. will envion refund money to investors ?
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lofegs
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August 20, 2018, 11:11:26 AM |
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the money i invested in this project was a lot " for me " , i had very big hopes for this project but it is hard to find any good news about this project , all the last page's are full with negative news , my hope is that you are all wrong but i doubt it
Well if we think about past time when envion ICO finished, i really surprised that envion collected $106 million. But now many crypto mates lost the trust in new ICO's. As we know that there were overwhelming bounty participants but they waste time. Now question is.. will envion refund money to investors ? Still many things are uncertain. Unfortunatelly as an investor my hopes are too low.
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August 20, 2018, 11:13:23 AM Last edit: August 20, 2018, 11:29:03 AM by o48o |
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the money i invested in this project was a lot " for me " , i had very big hopes for this project but it is hard to find any good news about this project , all the last page's are full with negative news , my hope is that you are all wrong but i doubt it
Well if we think about past time when envion ICO finished, i really surprised that envion collected $106 million. But now many crypto mates lost the trust in new ICO's. As we know that there were overwhelming bounty participants but they waste time. Now question is.. will envion refund money to investors ? Envion is not in charge at the moment; FINMA will make the decision on that. I think the Envion founders are hoping that they could carry on the project after the guilty person is charged, But the problem is that the guilty person was the CEO, and if i am being totally honest to myself i can't see any reason why they would deny a refund from people who have invested and not sold (they could track those easily). But i don't think that it would be full refund and it would kill the whole project. I understand that the Envion founders would like to take the control back, but the thing is, it could be seen like their actions of choosing the CEO without a good background check would be irresponsible, and therefore Envion founders might not be responsible enough to make future decisions for Envion. Really scary part is that i don't think that they would refund the tokens bought from the markets; Only the original investors who did a KYC and didn't sell.
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August 20, 2018, 11:31:35 AM |
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the money i invested in this project was a lot " for me " , i had very big hopes for this project but it is hard to find any good news about this project , all the last page's are full with negative news , my hope is that you are all wrong but i doubt it
Well if we think about past time when envion ICO finished, i really surprised that envion collected $106 million. But now many crypto mates lost the trust in new ICO's. As we know that there were overwhelming bounty participants but they waste time. Now question is.. will envion refund money to investors ? Envion is not in charge at the moment; FINMA will make the decision on that. I think the Envion founders are hoping that they could carry on the project after the guilty person is charged, But the problem is that the guilty person was the CEO, and if i am being totally honest to myself i can't see any reason why they would deny a refund from people who have invested and not sold (they could track those easily). But i don't think that it would be full refund and it would kill the whole project. I understand that the Envion founders would like to take the control back, but the thing is, it could be seen like their actions of choosing the CEO without a good background check would be irresponsible, and therefore Envion founders might not be responsible enough to make future decisions for Envion. Really scary part is that i don't think that they would refund the tokens bought from the markets; Only the original investors who did a KYC and didn't sell. If we consider about Ethereum prices, I'm not sure refund is possible. And AFAIK some of the money cashed out early, so things are really complicated.
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August 20, 2018, 11:53:48 AM |
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the money i invested in this project was a lot " for me " , i had very big hopes for this project but it is hard to find any good news about this project , all the last page's are full with negative news , my hope is that you are all wrong but i doubt it
Well if we think about past time when envion ICO finished, i really surprised that envion collected $106 million. But now many crypto mates lost the trust in new ICO's. As we know that there were overwhelming bounty participants but they waste time. Now question is.. will envion refund money to investors ? Envion is not in charge at the moment; FINMA will make the decision on that. I think the Envion founders are hoping that they could carry on the project after the guilty person is charged, But the problem is that the guilty person was the CEO, and if i am being totally honest to myself i can't see any reason why they would deny a refund from people who have invested and not sold (they could track those easily). But i don't think that it would be full refund and it would kill the whole project. I understand that the Envion founders would like to take the control back, but the thing is, it could be seen like their actions of choosing the CEO without a good background check would be irresponsible, and therefore Envion founders might not be responsible enough to make future decisions for Envion. Really scary part is that i don't think that they would refund the tokens bought from the markets; Only the original investors who did a KYC and didn't sell. If we consider about Ethereum prices, I'm not sure refund is possible. And AFAIK some of the money cashed out early, so things are really complicated. What causes ENVION to be like this. All become neglected and there is no encouraging news for investors and bounty participants. I myself don't know about this delay, I hope that ENVION will give the best.
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Thadeous
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August 20, 2018, 01:41:57 PM |
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FINMA investigation is still proceeding. Here is what Laurent says in https://t.me/EnvionFounders"The FINMA investigation limits our ability to respond on certain topics, but I would direct everyone to the previously published materials which discuss in detail the progress of the company since the start of the project and the status of the ICO funds." "I reject the implication that the founders are attempting to shrug responsibility off when they have spent an obscene amount of their own money to finance the progress of the company and completion of ICO activities. Trado and its employees cannot legally communicate or act on behalf of Envion due to an injunction filed by Matthias Woestmann - an injunction which is being appealed. The opposite of not taking responsibility."
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August 20, 2018, 11:49:47 PM |
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But i don't think that it would be full refund and it would kill the whole project. It will take years to figure that out, lawyers etc will eat much from that 100 million, I assume all the involved guys pay(ed) them self very good also... The idea behind that ICO was worth 1000USD not more, they had nothing.... One of the founder is known for private bankrupt, that was one reason to use a outside CEO stay away from this...
told you so... Maybe I should offer ICO ratings for investors
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August 21, 2018, 03:30:16 AM |
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the money i invested in this project was a lot " for me " , i had very big hopes for this project but it is hard to find any good news about this project , all the last page's are full with negative news , my hope is that you are all wrong but i doubt it
Well if we think about past time when envion ICO finished, i really surprised that envion collected $106 million. But now many crypto mates lost the trust in new ICO's. As we know that there were overwhelming bounty participants but they waste time. Now question is.. will envion refund money to investors ? New scam ICOS are getting smarter and making better preparation before sales. It's getting harder to find something worthwhile. In addition, the bearish trend makes its own adjustments
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dr.cheema
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August 21, 2018, 05:45:28 AM |
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the money i invested in this project was a lot " for me " , i had very big hopes for this project but it is hard to find any good news about this project , all the last page's are full with negative news , my hope is that you are all wrong but i doubt it
Well if we think about past time when envion ICO finished, i really surprised that envion collected $106 million. But now many crypto mates lost the trust in new ICO's. As we know that there were overwhelming bounty participants but they waste time. Now question is.. will envion refund money to investors ? Envion is not in charge at the moment; FINMA will make the decision on that. I think the Envion founders are hoping that they could carry on the project after the guilty person is charged, But the problem is that the guilty person was the CEO, and if i am being totally honest to myself i can't see any reason why they would deny a refund from people who have invested and not sold (they could track those easily). But i don't think that it would be full refund and it would kill the whole project. I understand that the Envion founders would like to take the control back, but the thing is, it could be seen like their actions of choosing the CEO without a good background check would be irresponsible, and therefore Envion founders might not be responsible enough to make future decisions for Envion. Really scary part is that i don't think that they would refund the tokens bought from the markets; Only the original investors who did a KYC and didn't sell. If we consider about Ethereum prices, I'm not sure refund is possible. And AFAIK some of the money cashed out early, so things are really complicated. What causes ENVION to be like this. All become neglected and there is no encouraging news for investors and bounty participants. I myself don't know about this delay, I hope that ENVION will give the best. Envion Founders still want to run this project? If yes then i am sure envion price will be up and bounty hunters will be receive rewards. Let's hope next month we will see positive news about envion. Many investors still expecting success from this project. Let's see!
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August 22, 2018, 02:24:44 AM |
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Anybody know the latest news about Envion? How far is the case? What with Finma case?
If you know the answers please share, it would be nice to hear some updates. I am banned from Envion Telegram and don't have access to the latest updates. Just waiting for the courts to finish.
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daxp
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August 22, 2018, 03:25:29 AM |
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the money i invested in this project was a lot " for me " , i had very big hopes for this project but it is hard to find any good news about this project , all the last page's are full with negative news , my hope is that you are all wrong but i doubt it
Well if we think about past time when envion ICO finished, i really surprised that envion collected $106 million. But now many crypto mates lost the trust in new ICO's. As we know that there were overwhelming bounty participants but they waste time. Now question is.. will envion refund money to investors ? Envion is not in charge at the moment; FINMA will make the decision on that. I think the Envion founders are hoping that they could carry on the project after the guilty person is charged, But the problem is that the guilty person was the CEO, and if i am being totally honest to myself i can't see any reason why they would deny a refund from people who have invested and not sold (they could track those easily). But i don't think that it would be full refund and it would kill the whole project. I understand that the Envion founders would like to take the control back, but the thing is, it could be seen like their actions of choosing the CEO without a good background check would be irresponsible, and therefore Envion founders might not be responsible enough to make future decisions for Envion. Really scary part is that i don't think that they would refund the tokens bought from the markets; Only the original investors who did a KYC and didn't sell. If we consider about Ethereum prices, I'm not sure refund is possible. And AFAIK some of the money cashed out early, so things are really complicated. What causes ENVION to be like this. All become neglected and there is no encouraging news for investors and bounty participants. I myself don't know about this delay, I hope that ENVION will give the best. Envion Founders still want to run this project? If yes then i am sure envion price will be up and bounty hunters will be receive rewards. Let's hope next month we will see positive news about envion. Many investors still expecting success from this project. Let's see! peoples now write a lot of negativity about project and community is clearly unhappy. Usually in such cases there is little change
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Roidz92
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August 22, 2018, 06:39:18 AM |
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Anybody know the latest news about Envion? How far is the case? What with Finma case?
If you know the answers please share, it would be nice to hear some updates. I am banned from Envion Telegram and don't have access to the latest updates. Just waiting for the courts to finish.
I'm interested too, because it seems that we cannot even trade our tokens anymore.. i don't know the news, but all seems dead from my point of view.. If anyone has some news, would be appreciated here
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dr.cheema
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August 22, 2018, 07:03:01 AM |
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the money i invested in this project was a lot " for me " , i had very big hopes for this project but it is hard to find any good news about this project , all the last page's are full with negative news , my hope is that you are all wrong but i doubt it
Well if we think about past time when envion ICO finished, i really surprised that envion collected $106 million. But now many crypto mates lost the trust in new ICO's. As we know that there were overwhelming bounty participants but they waste time. Now question is.. will envion refund money to investors ? Envion is not in charge at the moment; FINMA will make the decision on that. I think the Envion founders are hoping that they could carry on the project after the guilty person is charged, But the problem is that the guilty person was the CEO, and if i am being totally honest to myself i can't see any reason why they would deny a refund from people who have invested and not sold (they could track those easily). But i don't think that it would be full refund and it would kill the whole project. I understand that the Envion founders would like to take the control back, but the thing is, it could be seen like their actions of choosing the CEO without a good background check would be irresponsible, and therefore Envion founders might not be responsible enough to make future decisions for Envion. Really scary part is that i don't think that they would refund the tokens bought from the markets; Only the original investors who did a KYC and didn't sell. If we consider about Ethereum prices, I'm not sure refund is possible. And AFAIK some of the money cashed out early, so things are really complicated. What causes ENVION to be like this. All become neglected and there is no encouraging news for investors and bounty participants. I myself don't know about this delay, I hope that ENVION will give the best. Envion Founders still want to run this project? If yes then i am sure envion price will be up and bounty hunters will be receive rewards. Let's hope next month we will see positive news about envion. Many investors still expecting success from this project. Let's see! peoples now write a lot of negativity about project and community is clearly unhappy. Usually in such cases there is little change Agree with you some people saying envion project will not survive and few people still believing in this project. Let's see what will happen next and i am waiting for more updates about envion project.
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Thadeous
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August 22, 2018, 12:32:59 PM |
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Anybody know the latest news about Envion? How far is the case? What with Finma case?
If you know the answers please share, it would be nice to hear some updates. I am banned from Envion Telegram and don't have access to the latest updates. Just waiting for the courts to finish.
Please read carefully what I wrote few post above. Laurent gives comprehensive answers to your questions. And check Envion Founders telegram https://t.me/EnvionFounders
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August 22, 2018, 12:36:28 PM |
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the money i invested in this project was a lot " for me " , i had very big hopes for this project but it is hard to find any good news about this project , all the last page's are full with negative news , my hope is that you are all wrong but i doubt it
Well if we think about past time when envion ICO finished, i really surprised that envion collected $106 million. But now many crypto mates lost the trust in new ICO's. As we know that there were overwhelming bounty participants but they waste time. Now question is.. will envion refund money to investors ? Envion is not in charge at the moment; FINMA will make the decision on that. I think the Envion founders are hoping that they could carry on the project after the guilty person is charged, But the problem is that the guilty person was the CEO, and if i am being totally honest to myself i can't see any reason why they would deny a refund from people who have invested and not sold (they could track those easily). But i don't think that it would be full refund and it would kill the whole project. I understand that the Envion founders would like to take the control back, but the thing is, it could be seen like their actions of choosing the CEO without a good background check would be irresponsible, and therefore Envion founders might not be responsible enough to make future decisions for Envion. Really scary part is that i don't think that they would refund the tokens bought from the markets; Only the original investors who did a KYC and didn't sell. If we consider about Ethereum prices, I'm not sure refund is possible. And AFAIK some of the money cashed out early, so things are really complicated. What causes ENVION to be like this. All become neglected and there is no encouraging news for investors and bounty participants. I myself don't know about this delay, I hope that ENVION will give the best. Envion Founders still want to run this project? If yes then i am sure envion price will be up and bounty hunters will be receive rewards. Let's hope next month we will see positive news about envion. Many investors still expecting success from this project. Let's see! peoples now write a lot of negativity about project and community is clearly unhappy. Usually in such cases there is little change As this is a security token, community has nothing to do with the possible future success. It's all in the hands of the FINMA now.
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Title of this thread they should remove Most Profitable while it is now 92% down from the initial price too. That is really painful to see how down this is due to greedy team and don't care about the feelings and expectation of the investors.
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Thadeous
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August 22, 2018, 02:38:29 PM |
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Title of this thread they should remove Most Profitable while it is now 92% down from the initial price too. That is really painful to see how down this is due to greedy team and don't care about the feelings and expectation of the investors.
I think this thread title tells about dividends generated from Envion mining facilities and has nothing to do with EVN token price. EVN is traded on open markets, same as thousands of other tokens. And its obvious that EVN price is heavily affected by the current bearish market state.
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