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December 18, 2013, 07:09:41 PM
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Please find my new ASCIMINER direct shares auction here:

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December 19, 2013, 09:28:03 AM
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dividend 0.0012...

Is that confirmed? I have got nothing through from havelock yet.
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December 19, 2013, 09:57:27 AM
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dividend 0.0012...

Is that confirmed? I have got nothing through from havelock yet.

.0012171 to be precise.

Dividends have been paid for my direct shares.  I have none on Havelock so I can't help you out there.
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December 19, 2013, 10:36:46 AM
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dividend 0.0012...

Is that confirmed? I have got nothing through from havelock yet.

.0012171 to be precise.

Dividends have been paid for my direct shares.  I have none on Havelock so I can't help you out there.

Anyone with havelock shares? They are normally paid in an hour or two ....
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December 19, 2013, 11:13:57 AM
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dividend 0.0012...

Is that confirmed? I have got nothing through from havelock yet.

.0012171 to be precise.

Dividends have been paid for my direct shares.  I have none on Havelock so I can't help you out there.

Anyone with havelock shares? They are normally paid in an hour or two ....

I have havelock shares and divs were posted yesterday as well.

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December 19, 2013, 11:14:05 AM
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dividend 0.0012...

Is that confirmed? I have got nothing through from havelock yet.

.0012171 to be precise.

Dividends have been paid for my direct shares.  I have none on Havelock so I can't help you out there.

Anyone with havelock shares? They are normally paid in an hour or two ....

I have shares on Havelock, no dividends yet. TAT is probably late, I trust him to get it done ASAP
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December 19, 2013, 11:25:28 AM
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ok thanks. I'll contact them. I didn't get anything
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December 19, 2013, 12:23:07 PM
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I have havelock shares and divs were posted yesterday as well.
No, they were not. Last div for AM on Havelock is 2013-12-11 (last week).
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December 19, 2013, 12:58:53 PM
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What a nice strike of luck - 5 blocks found in last 24 hours.
Probably that's why prices on Havelock are rising - someone thinks AM is deploying new hardware, before gen3 tape-out.
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December 19, 2013, 02:36:39 PM
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very impressive,Maybe 0 block in coming few days.
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December 19, 2013, 04:47:40 PM
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I have havelock shares and divs were posted yesterday as well.
No, they were not. Last div for AM on Havelock is 2013-12-11 (last week).

AM1 and AM100 dividends will come today, don't worry folks, just a bit behind.
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December 20, 2013, 12:19:50 AM
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I'm curious why the share price went (very slightly) up, even though the divs were confirmed to keep sinking. Any idea/opinion?
I wonder if the "dry period" for the next months has been already fully integrated by the market. I doubt it, I've seen how much the price was correlated to each week dividends... but thus my suprise it doesn't tank further.


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December 20, 2013, 12:31:41 AM
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I'm curious why the share price went (very slightly) up, even though the divs were confirmed to keep sinking. Any idea/opinion?
I wonder if the "dry period" for the next months has been already fully integrated by the market. I doubt it, I've seen how much the price was correlated to each week dividends... but thus my suprise it doesn't tank further.



It really made no sense that they were so closely correlated in the first place. Do you think AM will pay more than 0.3 btc per share over the next 2-3 years?  Are you patient? If yes to both, you should buy today. If you want to wait for the price to go down you are bottom fishing and it may not work out for you.
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December 20, 2013, 12:55:44 AM
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I'm curious why the share price went (very slightly) up, even though the divs were confirmed to keep sinking. Any idea/opinion?
I wonder if the "dry period" for the next months has been already fully integrated by the market. I doubt it, I've seen how much the price was correlated to each week dividends... but thus my suprise it doesn't tank further.



It really made no sense that they were so closely correlated in the first place. Do you think AM will pay more than 0.3 btc per share over the next 2-3 years?  Are you patient? If yes to both, you should buy today. If you want to wait for the price to go down you are bottom fishing and it may not work out for you.
I agree with you, but historically I've seen the price so much attached to the weekly divs, I'm surprised it would have changed that much.
Maybe we're so low that the market valuation is now integrating more long-term expectations. I'm dumb in finance and market behavior, but I'm a scientist and it can be easily explained by the proportion of long-term investor VS short-term ones. In short, we now have a larger and larger majority of long-term investors and this set a bottom to the price that is less and less linked to the weekly div.
I doubt this is the bottom, though, honestly.

Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. 
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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December 20, 2013, 02:29:37 AM
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I'm curious why the share price went (very slightly) up, even though the divs were confirmed to keep sinking. Any idea/opinion?
I wonder if the "dry period" for the next months has been already fully integrated by the market. I doubt it, I've seen how much the price was correlated to each week dividends... but thus my suprise it doesn't tank further.



It really made no sense that they were so closely correlated in the first place. Do you think AM will pay more than 0.3 btc per share over the next 2-3 years?  Are you patient? If yes to both, you should buy today. If you want to wait for the price to go down you are bottom fishing and it may not work out for you.
I agree with you, but historically I've seen the price so much attached to the weekly divs, I'm surprised it would have changed that much.
Maybe we're so low that the market valuation is now integrating more long-term expectations. I'm dumb in finance and market behavior, but I'm a scientist and it can be easily explained by the proportion of long-term investor VS short-term ones. In short, we now have a larger and larger majority of long-term investors and this set a bottom to the price that is less and less linked to the weekly div.
I doubt this is the bottom, though, honestly.

Yeah, this is really the first week since July the share price hasn't gone down. Perhaps divs are just better than people expected this week?

Anyway, let's see how it plays out in the next month. I don't see anyone rushing in to push the share price up. Wasn't there an auction starting 0.27 last week that failed to get any bids?
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December 20, 2013, 02:58:32 AM
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I'm curious why the share price went (very slightly) up, even though the divs were confirmed to keep sinking. Any idea/opinion?
I wonder if the "dry period" for the next months has been already fully integrated by the market. I doubt it, I've seen how much the price was correlated to each week dividends... but thus my suprise it doesn't tank further.



It really made no sense that they were so closely correlated in the first place. Do you think AM will pay more than 0.3 btc per share over the next 2-3 years?  Are you patient? If yes to both, you should buy today. If you want to wait for the price to go down you are bottom fishing and it may not work out for you.

The problem with buying today is just that we aren't expecting gen3 until April. That's a huge time interval, in bitcoinland at least, and just more risk.

Dividends weren't that bad this week, to my mind anyway. But if they go down considerably in the next month, so will the share price. Thats why I'm not buying at the moment.
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December 20, 2013, 03:22:23 AM
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I'm curious why the share price went (very slightly) up, even though the divs were confirmed to keep sinking. Any idea/opinion?
I wonder if the "dry period" for the next months has been already fully integrated by the market. I doubt it, I've seen how much the price was correlated to each week dividends... but thus my suprise it doesn't tank further.



It really made no sense that they were so closely correlated in the first place. Do you think AM will pay more than 0.3 btc per share over the next 2-3 years?  Are you patient? If yes to both, you should buy today. If you want to wait for the price to go down you are bottom fishing and it may not work out for you.

The problem with buying today is just that we aren't expecting gen3 until April. That's a huge time interval, in bitcoinland at least, and just more risk.

Dividends weren't that bad this week, to my mind anyway. But if they go down considerably in the next month, so will the share price. Thats why I'm not buying at the moment.

I was thinking the same, but there sure seems to be a rash of enthusiasm for BTC0.29 AM1  right now on Havelock. Over 100 shares so far.
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December 20, 2013, 03:24:20 AM
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I'm curious why the share price went (very slightly) up, even though the divs were confirmed to keep sinking. Any idea/opinion?
I wonder if the "dry period" for the next months has been already fully integrated by the market. I doubt it, I've seen how much the price was correlated to each week dividends... but thus my suprise it doesn't tank further.



It really made no sense that they were so closely correlated in the first place. Do you think AM will pay more than 0.3 btc per share over the next 2-3 years?  Are you patient? If yes to both, you should buy today. If you want to wait for the price to go down you are bottom fishing and it may not work out for you.

The problem with buying today is just that we aren't expecting gen3 until April. That's a huge time interval, in bitcoinland at least, and just more risk.

Dividends weren't that bad this week, to my mind anyway. But if they go down considerably in the next month, so will the share price. Thats why I'm not buying at the moment.

I was thinking the same, but there sure seems to be a rash of enthusiasm for BTC0.29 AM1  right now on Havelock. Over 100 shares so far.

They should have bought those direct shares on offer 0.27 then Wink
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December 20, 2013, 03:34:44 AM
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I'm curious why the share price went (very slightly) up, even though the divs were confirmed to keep sinking. Any idea/opinion?
I wonder if the "dry period" for the next months has been already fully integrated by the market. I doubt it, I've seen how much the price was correlated to each week dividends... but thus my suprise it doesn't tank further.



It really made no sense that they were so closely correlated in the first place. Do you think AM will pay more than 0.3 btc per share over the next 2-3 years?  Are you patient? If yes to both, you should buy today. If you want to wait for the price to go down you are bottom fishing and it may not work out for you.

The problem with buying today is just that we aren't expecting gen3 until April. That's a huge time interval, in bitcoinland at least, and just more risk.

Dividends weren't that bad this week, to my mind anyway. But if they go down considerably in the next month, so will the share price. Thats why I'm not buying at the moment.

It doesn't matter. By the end of January we might have an update on whether tape out was successful... and if it was then good luck getting sub 0.3 btc shares. Even if increased dividends don't come for many more months, the anticipation will keep creeping in as we get closer.
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December 20, 2013, 03:41:06 AM
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I'm curious why the share price went (very slightly) up, even though the divs were confirmed to keep sinking. Any idea/opinion?
I wonder if the "dry period" for the next months has been already fully integrated by the market. I doubt it, I've seen how much the price was correlated to each week dividends... but thus my suprise it doesn't tank further.



It really made no sense that they were so closely correlated in the first place. Do you think AM will pay more than 0.3 btc per share over the next 2-3 years?  Are you patient? If yes to both, you should buy today. If you want to wait for the price to go down you are bottom fishing and it may not work out for you.

The problem with buying today is just that we aren't expecting gen3 until April. That's a huge time interval, in bitcoinland at least, and just more risk.

Dividends weren't that bad this week, to my mind anyway. But if they go down considerably in the next month, so will the share price. Thats why I'm not buying at the moment.

It doesn't matter. By the end of January we might have an update on whether tape out was successful... and if it was then good luck getting sub 0.3 btc shares. Even if increased dividends don't come for many more months, the anticipation will keep creeping in as we get closer.

"End of January we might have an update of whether tape out was successful"

Two bits of risk right there:
1) The date might slip
2) The tape out might not have been successful

That's a month away anyway. Dividends will slip during that month, I'm 99% sure of that. If the price is still around 0.30 then, I'll accept a bottom has been reached and act accordingly. But the price isn't going to shoot up even then.

Put simply, for my money, there is still a big risk of AM going below 0.20 in the next couple of months. And little risk of it going 0.40 or more. So I'm better off not buying yet.

You obviously think otherwise, so buy, buy, buy! Smiley
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