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December 08, 2017, 03:02:21 AM
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I wanted to mention a feature we have coming at Christmas called E-commerce.

It lets US citizens buy products on amazon through the wallet (primarily because the wallet only supports address validation in the US at this time).  We are working behind the scenes getting Walmart on board also.  I have been notified that Europe deliveries will be possible in a few months if we have some volume in the US test market.

Anyway the reason I mention this is the pool website has additional new fields in the account settings page for name, address, city, state, phone.  I just wanted to say this is only required for E-commerce for Pool purchases.  Not for wallet purposes.  So we are not trying to track you, the fields are optional, and those only need to be filled out if you want to buy some Great Tribulation food in the Pool.

As far as buying from the wallet, I'm working on this guide:
http://wiki.biblepay.org/Ecommerce

There will be fields in the client that allow you to buy directly from the wallet without the pool.

Hopefully we will be the first crypto with built in Amazon products for sale.  Now you can spend your biblepay on real products.



In all honesty Rob, this could be the feature that propels BBP high up the rankings. People want to buy stuff with their crypto and this is difficult at the moment.

There is a service in NZ from our post company which gives you a US address (it is a warehouse owned by NZ post). You ship to their US address and they ship back to NZ.
I wonder if it will work for this...

https://www.nzpost.co.nz/tools/youshop

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I wanted to mention a feature we have coming at Christmas called E-commerce.

It lets US citizens buy products on amazon through the wallet (primarily because the wallet only supports address validation in the US at this time).  We are working behind the scenes getting Walmart on board also.  I have been notified that Europe deliveries will be possible in a few months if we have some volume in the US test market.

Anyway the reason I mention this is the pool website has additional new fields in the account settings page for name, address, city, state, phone.  I just wanted to say this is only required for E-commerce for Pool purchases.  Not for wallet purposes.  So we are not trying to track you, the fields are optional, and those only need to be filled out if you want to buy some Great Tribulation food in the Pool.

As far as buying from the wallet, I'm working on this guide:
http://wiki.biblepay.org/Ecommerce

There will be fields in the client that allow you to buy directly from the wallet without the pool.

Hopefully we will be the first crypto with built in Amazon products for sale.  Now you can spend your biblepay on real products.



In all honesty Rob, this could be the feature that propels BBP high up the rankings. People want to buy stuff with their crypto and this is difficult at the moment.

There is a service in NZ from our post company which gives you a US address (it is a warehouse owned by NZ post). You ship to their US address and they ship back to NZ.
I wonder if it will work for this...

https://www.nzpost.co.nz/tools/youshop



Thats cool, yeah I hope it does at least propel us high enough to allow our IT budget to have a full blown IT dept! That would be nice to make this a full time business with an office.  Anyway we might already have the ability to go to NZ.  Does Amazon deliver to your house currently?


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Thats cool, yeah I hope it does at least propel us high enough to allow our IT budget to have a full blown IT dept! That would be nice to make this a full time business with an office.  Anyway we might already have the ability to go to NZ.  Does Amazon deliver to your house currently?



It's a bit hit and miss. Some items ship here, some don't. But I believe there is an Amazon Australia site coming very soon which is supposed to also service NZ.
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December 08, 2017, 03:16:49 AM
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This is cool but the total supply of the coin is too much, this may go down to almost 1 sat with the bull of bitcoin.
I set up my miner and running.
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Nothing is too late to change. Everything is possible with God!

I just realized that the ones who got in early already got a 10x value in their investment. So I do think good providence would favor lowering the prices. from $750 to $7700 in only 3 weeks or so? sounds like a great ROI already!

But changing it now would be extremely unfair to the people who have purchased BBP in recent days simply to get enough for a sanctuary. If there was someone who purchased all of the 1.55 million BBP at a premium price in the last few days, then that person was told actually only 100k is needed, then they will be annoyed that they spend way more than they need.
Additionally, if that were to happen people would dump their excess coins on he exchange and lower the price.
Out theoretical person will then have purchased 1.45 million more BBP than needed at a premium price and could not get their money back due to the drop in price.

Additionally, and more convincingly, Rob has given a final price. I believe him to be a man of his word, of integrity, and I don't expect or want him to go back on his word.

It sucks if you don't have enough to run a sanctuary (I don't) because you feel locked out, but it is better for Rob to keep his word. So I am happy.
In the end, we have to keep in mind that a big reason why we invested in BBP is for helping those in need. So let's not bicker about something like the price of a sanctuary which isn't going to change in the near future.



I am not bickering. Making an observation about what would be a more fair setup and what I think will be a corrupting influence in the future. By having something so out of reach at the start and only allowing 'rich' miners (early btc owners or powerhashers) you are inviting a concentration of profit driven decision makers. The project then goes from charity driven and altruism to entirely money driven. 

If you take a look at the dash masternode proposals discussions you will find exactly how corrupting this can be. They banter around bragging about how they can now afford that superbowl commercial or how they should hire xyz stuntman or celebrity to endorse Dash.

In short it invites a committee of non believers with values opposite the bible. This happens all the time with churches now - the focus is on growing numbers so they can get more in donations. And their doctrine changes as well.

As the saying goes, serve God or money (mammon) but not both. One is master or the other.

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Has anyone looked into listing on Bittrex?  Maybe this is old information, but it looks like they will list/launch for free and spotlight biblepay for 3 BTC:

At Bittrex, we look for coins that have high community demand, innovations to digital currency technology, or a contribution to science or humanity. Given the demand for currency launches, we limit ourselves to only a handful a week.  Launching is free and at our discretion.  If your coin passes our compliance rules and you'd like to get additional marketing in our platform, we offer the option to spotlight your coin for 3.0 BTC.   

Note that we cannot list currencies where its primary purpose is to support illegal gambling, illegal drug sales, or any other activity that is illegal in our jurisdiction.  We also cannot list currencies that would be construed as a security such as digital currencies that promise/market profits or represent shares of a company.  At our discretion, we may require an additional compliance fee for listing. These happen in the extraordinary cases where your coin's use case is extremely complex and requires significant research by our staff to determine suitability.


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Has anyone looked into listing on Bittrex?  Maybe this is old information, but it looks like they will list/launch for free and spotlight biblepay for 3 BTC:

At Bittrex, we look for coins that have high community demand, innovations to digital currency technology, or a contribution to science or humanity. Given the demand for currency launches, we limit ourselves to only a handful a week.  Launching is free and at our discretion.  If your coin passes our compliance rules and you'd like to get additional marketing in our platform, we offer the option to spotlight your coin for 3.0 BTC.   

Note that we cannot list currencies where its primary purpose is to support illegal gambling, illegal drug sales, or any other activity that is illegal in our jurisdiction.  We also cannot list currencies that would be construed as a security such as digital currencies that promise/market profits or represent shares of a company.  At our discretion, we may require an additional compliance fee for listing. These happen in the extraordinary cases where your coin's use case is extremely complex and requires significant research by our staff to determine suitability.


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Description of your coin -  Why does it exist and what makes it unique?  What new technology or business concept are you bringing to the blockchain? If your ANN thread only has coin specs on it, you are not going to get listed on Bittrex. 
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Ah, I never saw the line "or a contribution to science or humanity" before. Surely sponsoring ~180 orphans qualifies?
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Nothing is too late to change. Everything is possible with God!

I just realized that the ones who got in early already got a 10x value in their investment. So I do think good providence would favor lowering the prices. from $750 to $7700 in only 3 weeks or so? sounds like a great ROI already!

But changing it now would be extremely unfair to the people who have purchased BBP in recent days simply to get enough for a sanctuary. If there was someone who purchased all of the 1.55 million BBP at a premium price in the last few days, then that person was told actually only 100k is needed, then they will be annoyed that they spend way more than they need.
Additionally, if that were to happen people would dump their excess coins on he exchange and lower the price.
Out theoretical person will then have purchased 1.45 million more BBP than needed at a premium price and could not get their money back due to the drop in price.



On further thought I think this is very inaccurate. Someone who bought 1.5 million biblepay would find themselves in a very favorable position. They could buy more sanctuaries than they originally intended. Thats a big win! (3 for 1 deal for them)

Since no masternode has been sold yet, THIS would be time to do the right thing and alter plans for the benefit of the future. Sure its tempting to get those juicy $7k. But as i mentioned before you are just going to attract the wrong crowd. Shorted sighted profit taking sacrificing long term values.

Another question/point to make here. Why is there a requirement for 1.5 million in escrow? I think I understand it to be to support features such as instant send. But is that really a real life need TODAY? Is anyone transacting in biblepay between each other that its urgent that masternodes support a buffer for instant send to the tune of 1.5 million. That sounds very off to me.

Again, my vote is for lowering of masternode pricing 100k (perhaps 500k). It will make for a more democratic node base.



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Nothing is too late to change. Everything is possible with God!

I just realized that the ones who got in early already got a 10x value in their investment. So I do think good providence would favor lowering the prices. from $750 to $7700 in only 3 weeks or so? sounds like a great ROI already!

But changing it now would be extremely unfair to the people who have purchased BBP in recent days simply to get enough for a sanctuary. If there was someone who purchased all of the 1.55 million BBP at a premium price in the last few days, then that person was told actually only 100k is needed, then they will be annoyed that they spend way more than they need.
Additionally, if that were to happen people would dump their excess coins on he exchange and lower the price.
Out theoretical person will then have purchased 1.45 million more BBP than needed at a premium price and could not get their money back due to the drop in price.



On further thought I think this is very inaccurate. Someone who bought 1.5 million biblepay would find themselves in a very favorable position. They could buy more sanctuaries than they originally intended. Thats a big win! (3 for 1 deal for them)

Since no masternode has been sold yet, THIS would be time to do the right thing and alter plans for the benefit of the future. Sure its tempting to get those juicy $7k. But as i mentioned before you are just going to attract the wrong crowd. Shorted sighted profit taking sacrificing long term values.

Another question/point to make here. Why is there a requirement for 1.5 million in escrow? I think I understand it to be to support features such as instant send. But is that really a real life need TODAY? Is anyone transacting in biblepay between each other that its urgent that masternodes support a buffer for instant send to the tune of 1.5 million. That sounds very off to me.

Again, my vote is for lowering of masternode pricing 100k (perhaps 500k). It will make for a more democratic node base.






I completely disagree, but I'm not going to argue with you about it. We can agree to disasgree
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Nothing is too late to change. Everything is possible with God!

I just realized that the ones who got in early already got a 10x value in their investment. So I do think good providence would favor lowering the prices. from $750 to $7700 in only 3 weeks or so? sounds like a great ROI already!

But changing it now would be extremely unfair to the people who have purchased BBP in recent days simply to get enough for a sanctuary. If there was someone who purchased all of the 1.55 million BBP at a premium price in the last few days, then that person was told actually only 100k is needed, then they will be annoyed that they spend way more than they need.
Additionally, if that were to happen people would dump their excess coins on he exchange and lower the price.
Out theoretical person will then have purchased 1.45 million more BBP than needed at a premium price and could not get their money back due to the drop in price.



On further thought I think this is very inaccurate. Someone who bought 1.5 million biblepay would find themselves in a very favorable position. They could buy more sanctuaries than they originally intended. Thats a big win! (3 for 1 deal for them)

Since no masternode has been sold yet, THIS would be time to do the right thing and alter plans for the benefit of the future. Sure its tempting to get those juicy $7k. But as i mentioned before you are just going to attract the wrong crowd. Shorted sighted profit taking sacrificing long term values.

Another question/point to make here. Why is there a requirement for 1.5 million in escrow? I think I understand it to be to support features such as instant send. But is that really a real life need TODAY? Is anyone transacting in biblepay between each other that its urgent that masternodes support a buffer for instant send to the tune of 1.5 million. That sounds very off to me.

Again, my vote is for lowering of masternode pricing 100k (perhaps 500k). It will make for a more democratic node base.



I completely disagree, but I'm not going to argue with you about it. We can agree to disasgree

Ok I agree you disagree Wink

Also it occurred to me that lowering the price actually wouldn't lower the ROI to nodes. Because even at third the price is still 2-3x what it was originally just 3 weeks ago. So it wouldn't introduce a flood of people getting nodes. A 2-3k investment is quite a barrier of entry. It would still weed out people and really draw in the 'middle class' miner so to speak. That group will be more committed long term to the project than the mine-for-profitability miners


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December 08, 2017, 08:47:41 AM
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After Sanctuaries Masternodes goes live, we need a popular and very used exchange, like : Bittrex , Poloniex ,  Livecoin even YoBit .
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December 08, 2017, 09:21:40 AM
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Amazing project, very capable team.... looking forward to the Bible Pay future. Glory to God!

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Without Jesus there is no Salvation
Bible + Blockchain = BiblePay (BBP)
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I want to see his appearance at HITbtc Wink Wink Wink
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December 08, 2017, 12:41:07 PM
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Here is good opportunity.  Maybe it is not so big problem to get to Kucoin. But we will need many people with Twitter Smiley But I don't know what criteria must be followed. They made this weekly:
https://twitter.com/kucoincom/status/939108944798040065

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December 08, 2017, 02:52:10 PM
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Adrian,

Would you please tone down the trash talk here?  And sit back and listen to the pros?  Its 1.5 MM BBP, and its not set that way for Greed.
You cant have it both ways- whether we start small and grow later, then you say that tranche was a bunch of heathens because they succeeded and now they have money to spend (meaning that you are just jealous).  We are fledgling and small and with the current price you can still buy a masternode for half of what it was yesterday. 

The important thing that makes us different is if our investors really care about the orphans, they wont be looking to buy new Mercedes Benz' and buying the superbowl tickets theyll be going on a gospel mission and feeding the hungry.  Maybe they will spend it to go to Israel.  Wouldnt that be cool?  So its how the investor is personally responsible in the long term.

Anyway you are detracting from the community.  You are basically accusing us to be a bunch of greedy slimeballs, and you have the disrespectful personality that coinpimp had.  If you are going to be disrespectful, please find a different project and stop posting here.


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i was think,that this project is primary for CHILDREN like CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY:

this huge problems with mining looks on any botnet or china manoeuvrers ...

info for miners:
important to know that after new year will be rewards 50% less will be harder and harder mining,im scary about miners on pool

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i was think,that this project is primary for CHILDREN like CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY:

this huge problems with mining looks on any botnet or china manoeuvrers ...

info for miners:
important to know that after new year will be rewards 50% less will be harder and harder mining,im scary about miners on pool

So how did the founder ever steal a cent from an orphan or steal a block from the pool?

Maybe time to apologize and admit you were wrong Slovakia?


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December 08, 2017, 03:54:22 PM
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Steve Cioccolanti sent me this article to get us up to speed on Christian censorship going on in the FANG  currently (Facebook amazon netflix google and Twitter):

http://www.wnd.com/2017/12/tech-giants-online-censorship-of-christians-exposed/

So apparently what is happening is Twitter suspends conservative and Christian tweet owner accounts, but allows tweets from liberals with no such discipline.  Im not sure exactly what Google is doing at this point, possibly reranking search results containing quality Christian views.  I know the news is filtered with a left bias.


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December 08, 2017, 04:00:22 PM
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biblepay you wrote about stealing pools coins,that you had problems: can you explain us,if you fixed problems? it was on old topic, dont know where,but this BOTNET problems is problems on every coins,right, but when we checked last 5 days with my friends, we mined 2times more, and in same diff we mined 2times less? wuuuut?

and what is this? https://biblepay-explorer.org/network  95% is CHINA BOTNET: that IP is from 1 operator TELECOM .... very nice!!!

biblepay=chinacoin

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BIBLEPAY 4th position

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I remember reading about DASH Masternode Shares:

http://dashmasternode.org/masternode-shares/
https://masternode.me/#shares

Basically it sounds like someone offers a service where they:
- pool other peoples coins who are interested in owning part of a masternode
- run/maintain the masternode
- payout the rewards of the masternode monthly to everyone involved
- keep a small cut of the profits

I wonder how voting works in this scenario?

Well the price is too expensive to start with. If the idea is to introduce decentralization and voting, and then you only have rich people (in btc and hashpower) be able to afford it. As a result only rich people can vote.
A bit contrary to the messages of the Bible.

With this setup it will have a concentration of votes to a group of miners or very early participants in the pool.
Then what is the point of voting if you are overruled by a concentration of people?

For me its not even a goal to have at this point. Which is fine. I will be content with ricing price and little coins I  can continue to gen out.

The only MN Sharing I've seen is with DASH.  But they don't allow for voting, it was my understanding the operator of the MN who is selling the shares COULD vote but does not (although I may have misread that).

MN Sharing in DASH makes sense, it was started when the MN cost hit about $100K (maybe a bit before) and so the operator decided to sell 40 shares at 25 DASH each (for the 1000 needed) to reduce the cost to something more feasible.  But at this point, even a share of a MN there is $20K.

As recently as four weeks ago, the 1.5M BBP for a Sanctuary (MN) would have been about $1000, which compared to most MN coins was very very affordable.  As of this very moment, that would be over $4K, which is not cheap but still in the lower end of cost for MN overall.

While it may seem the rich and powerful have an edge in MN systems (which in some ways they do), the reality is it is necessary to somehow vet people who are going to vote.  And the simplest way is to require that they hold a reasonable portion of coins so they will, in theory, make good choices for the coin overall.  If you have a situation where anyone could vote, you would risk having hostile parties try to damage the coin.  That's not to say someone could be anti-BBP and run a MN, it's just much less likely.  And furthermore, that is not to say those without a MN don't have good ideas, they do.

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