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[togoshigekata]

BiblePay Forum - TestNet - BiblePay-Evolution & GSCs (Generic Smart Contracts)
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=391.0

BiblePay Evolution
https://github.com/biblepay/biblepay-evolution

I'm starting to add some documentation to explain to new users how to get started:

Getting started with Evolution:
https://wiki.biblepay.org/Getting_Started_with_Evolution

GSC's:
https://wiki.biblepay.org/Generic_Smart_Contracts

Healing Campaign:
https://wiki.biblepay.org/BiblePay_Healing_Campaign

Street Healing:
https://wiki.biblepay.org/Street_Healing

Spiritual Warfare:
https://wiki.biblepay.org/Spiritual-Warfare-I

I realize we need a specific section for Grandma also - I'll continue to refine the getting started guide.

Please let me know if anyone would like to see more expanded info on any of these, and/or if this is sufficient to call us "easy to use" with the release of Evo.

Reference: https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=391.msg5803#msg5803

Work continues in testnet!

[zthomasz]

Automatic withdrawals hasn't worked since April 10th.

edit: at pool.biblepay.org

[inblue]

When I hear Biblepay, I think of Paypal, or some method of paying for goods. But as we know, adoption of a coin is a really rare and limited thing. So when someone asks, "What can I pay for with Biblepay?", we can only say Subway sandwiches?

Exactly how I feel. I focused on the religious part, but I forgot to write that the "pay" part really bugs me. It's totally misleading, because BiblePay is not a payment service and its primary goal is something completely unrelated to the name. And the average Joe doesn't care about the fact that the algorithm uses Bible verses. A relevant name would be "CharityChain" or something of the sort. Also, one of the most problematic things is that the BiblePay name evidently looks like a joke to many who encounter it for the first time, which I don't think is possible to amend without changing the name. It's a shame that people can't take BiblePay seriously, since it's a coin with one of the most serious goals I know, and with serious active development.

[CjMapope]

i dont consider myself a religious man
but ill never understand how people can attack biblepay
you guys have proven the charity is being given too
it was fair launch i believe, cpu mining (CAN you gpu mine this through BOINC at all?)

Be nice to BiblePay! haha
anyways, projects like this are simple use case for blockchain and a good cryptocurrency example imo

[secoccular]

When I hear Biblepay, I think of Paypal, or some method of paying for goods. But as we know, adoption of a coin is a really rare and limited thing. So when someone asks, "What can I pay for with Biblepay?", we can only say Subway sandwiches?

Exactly how I feel. I focused on the religious part, but I forgot to write that the "pay" part really bugs me. It's totally misleading, because BiblePay is not a payment service and its primary goal is something completely unrelated to the name. And the average Joe doesn't care about the fact that the algorithm uses Bible verses. A relevant name would be "CharityChain" or something of the sort. Also, one of the most problematic things is that the BiblePay name evidently looks like a joke to many who encounter it for the first time, which I don't think is possible to amend without changing the name. It's a shame that people can't take BiblePay seriously, since it's a coin with one of the most serious goals I know, and with serious active development.

Jesus Christ died on the cross and paid for your sins.

So you're saying that's the Pay part of BiblePay?

[noxpost]

Not much activity on the proposal forum, so I thought I'd bring it up here....

The Uganda proposal has a surprisingly large number of "No" votes - but not a lot of people explaining why. It isn't required, of course, but I would love to hear thoughts on this from others. I feel like the charity mission is pretty much top of the list in terms of things to fund (other than what is necessary to keep us developing / releasing).

I am curious to know if this is reflective of a community voice against that particular proposal, about the wider mission, etc. - if a lot of people feel strongly, or just a few. What's the current "mood" of the community in terms of our charitable giving/support?

Sometimes the black/white nature of the voting removes discussion, and I find that getting context can be very healthy.

EDIT: I should be clear that this has enough to PASS, but it seems like a hot topic because of both the total # of votes and the split of yes/no.

[bible_pay]

Automatic withdrawals hasn't worked since April 10th.

edit: at pool.biblepay.org

Thanks, I try to stay on top of it, but I also try to keep the pool hot wallet low just in case.

Recently we had a lot of letters written and the pool paid out a huge amount for those all at once.

I'll update this post again as soon as its refilled.

EDIT:  Note that everyone's balance is fine while the pool is not auto-paying (balances keep accruing higher).
EDIT:  Refilled.  Should auto-pay today.

[bible_pay]

When I hear Biblepay, I think of Paypal, or some method of paying for goods. But as we know, adoption of a coin is a really rare and limited thing. So when someone asks, "What can I pay for with Biblepay?", we can only say Subway sandwiches?

Exactly how I feel. I focused on the religious part, but I forgot to write that the "pay" part really bugs me. It's totally misleading, because BiblePay is not a payment service and its primary goal is something completely unrelated to the name. And the average Joe doesn't care about the fact that the algorithm uses Bible verses. A relevant name would be "CharityChain" or something of the sort. Also, one of the most problematic things is that the BiblePay name evidently looks like a joke to many who encounter it for the first time, which I don't think is possible to amend without changing the name. It's a shame that people can't take BiblePay seriously, since it's a coin with one of the most serious goals I know, and with serious active development.

Thanks, it's interesting, and rebranding is something we can talk about in the background through this journey.

Know that it's also a style, consistency, and best-practices issue to originally base ourselves off of a proven model or template, and we originally forked from DashPay (who had re-branded from DarkCoin).  So it was the origin spirit of consistency that we started as "BiblePay", inheriting Dash's governance model for our DAC (decentralized autonomous charity) vision.

But just as they decided to rebrand To DashPay From DarkCoin - we can discuss that also as we mature.

[bible_pay]

Let us remember what Jesus did for us today, approximately 1990 years ago, at the cross.

https://www.christianity.com/god/jesus-christ/what-s-so-good-about-good-friday.html

Jesus - thank you for dying for our sins.

We can never repay you.

[bible_pay]

i dont consider myself a religious man
but ill never understand how people can attack biblepay
you guys have proven the charity is being given too
it was fair launch i believe, cpu mining (CAN you gpu mine this through BOINC at all?)

Be nice to BiblePay! haha
anyways, projects like this are simple use case for blockchain and a good cryptocurrency example imo

Thanks!

At launch we just had CPU mining.
Although we don't have BOINC rewards right now (PODC), when we did have PODC we only allowed the non-gpu projects (Rosetta@Home and WCG), so we've always been CPU based.

We are moving to a 50% hybrid model where half goes to POW/Sancs (POBH) and the other half goes to campaign rewards in Biblepay-Evolution.

[Mart1250]

Hello Everyone,

I'm mining / podc (when it was active) this coin now for about 5 months.

I have my worries about the fact that this project still is listed on c-cex. This exchange is a fraud, and if you don't believe that, just read the comments in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=418700.4560
I would like to insist to the owners of this project to reconsider this exchange. If it works it works, I had my funds there too when I wanted to buy some bbp (it didn't came that far), but this exchange is known for funds that are lost suddenly and account's that are randomly blocked. Luckily my funds are not lost, but at that time when I wanted to generate a bbp wallet the website went down and after a few minutes there appeared an error message on the website. It's not a stable exchange at all, beside that it's a fraud.

I have mentioned earlier that it is a fraud, but it seems nobody cares, since it's still listed in this thread. So I wanted to point this out again.

Thanks for your time.


Best Regards,

Mart1250

[bible_pay]

Hello Everyone,

I'm mining / pobh (when it was active) this coin now for about 5 months.

I have my worries about the fact that this project still is listed on c-cex. This exchange is a fraud, and if you don't believe that, just read the comments in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=418700.4560
I would like to insist to the owners of this project to reconsider this exchange. If it works it works, I had my funds there too when I wanted to buy some bbp (it didn't came that far), but this exchange is known for funds that are lost suddenly and account's that are randomly blocked. Luckily my funds are not lost, but at that time when I wanted to generate a bbp wallet the website went down and after a few minutes there appeared an error message on the website. It's not a stable exchange at all, beside that it's a fraud.

I have mentioned earlier that it is a fraud, but it seems nobody cares, since it's still listed in this thread. So I wanted to point this out again.

Thanks for your time.


Best Regards,

Mart1250

Dear Mart1250,

Thanks for the message.  I didn't see your prior message representing anything before, so please realize that it must have slipped through one of the old pages.

Let me investigate.

Thanks,
Rob

[Mart1250]

Dear Rob,

Thanks for your reply. It's ok, you are doing a lot of work after all! You can check my posts through my account if it matters.

Thanks for looking into it!


Best Regards,

Mart1250

[SEO_Account]

Where can I read everything I need to know about biblepay-evolution?

[togoshigekata]

Where can I read everything I need to know about biblepay-evolution?

Some Dash Evo Documentation
https://docs.dash.org/en/latest/introduction/features.html#evolution
https://dashcrypto.org/technology/dash-evolution/
https://github.com/dashpay/dash/blob/v0.13.0.0/doc/release-notes.md

Dash Roadmap
https://www.dash.org/roadmap/

Dash Paper v13
https://issuu.com/dash-coin/docs/dashpaper-v13-v1
(Read by Amanda B Johnson?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfBAsxh6H50)

Dash DIPs (Dash Improvement Proposals)
https://github.com/dashpay/dips

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Dash Releases Evolution's Foundation in Largest Upgrade Ever by Amanda B Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLInZDCIdEo

Dash To Become Immune to 51% Attacks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDIfxfjbpkA

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TestNet - BiblePay-Evolution & GSCs (Generic Smart Contracts)
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=391.msg5518#msg5518

Generic Smart Contracts
https://wiki.biblepay.org/Generic_Smart_Contracts

Github - BiblePay Evolution
https://github.com/biblepay/biblepay-evolution

BiblePay Roadmap
https://wiki.biblepay.org/Roadmap

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BiblePay is a fork of the Dash code, our code started out as some version of the Dash coin code,
but we havent included (merged in) all the latest Dash code changes (we have had our own developments and only merged in security things)

Dash has released a few new updates called Dash Evolution, and Rob is [adding] those into BiblePay
A little more technical, I believe Rob [starting] with the latest Dash code, and then [putting] all the BiblePay stuff inside of it

Yes, this is exactly right, BiblePay Evolution is going to be our next version, and it includes all the features of Dash Evolution

- deterministic sanctuaries
- chainlocks
- non-financial transactions
- atomic trade
- lightning support
- daaps
- decentralized api
- segwit
- all the new DIPS
- all the latest bitcoin commits for security
- all the stuff that happened over the last year in Dash
- the Depends system for devs
- c++14 source code
- new compiler support
- easier building

Lots of good things to be a base from.  
And we do whats called a "re-base", meaning we merge our biblepay code into Evolution, and offer a new release.  

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With the release of BiblePay-Evolution coming in 60 days, I thought this would be a good time to:

1.  Demonstrate our differences - and explain how/why we are Superior to other cryptos

2.  Compare BiblePay to a potential slot in the Top 100 (I see that our features rank us somewhere between #70 and #100, but I will make a case for #26 once Evolution is released - see chart column D features to achieve #26)

3.  Show exactly where we expect this feature to fit in our release schedule (note that most of these features are being tested in Evo, and only some are held back for Dec 2019 and Dec 2020).

4.  Show our progress over time - how our decisions evolved that resulted in constant improvements to our core platform over time.  See on this matrix how we have transcended from problematic in certain areas, with responsible improvements addressing the problems, and finally releasing a good and permanent solution (See Chart #2).

In the First Chart, (Nutritional Info Guide), you can see some of BiblePay's advanced features.  These are things that are not in other communities wallets.  Obviously over the last 2 years, some features have been removed, but its clear that a significant amount of our code has withstood the test of time and has survived the transition to Evo and is useful to the community.  

The in-wallet bible reader, the decentralized GSC creator/voter, our persisted data storage cache (for prayers, campaigns and points), our anti-gpu and upcoming ABN feature, etc.  The wallet is changing again in it's foundation, to provide new interfaces and abstraction layers (as Q3 approaches) so we will have the base to add our extended UI (HTML5) for example for the features to the far right in the chart.

I also provide a key of definitions for anyone that is not familiar - or if you think we need more explanation for a term.  Please don't hesitate to ask for definitions to be added, and I will modify the wiki!

Finally at the bottom of the page, please see the detail table demonstrating how we have evolved in a positive way.  This shows that we have taken into consideration everything complaints in production (for example, improving Prod reliability as you can see is #1 in paramount importance, anti-fork technology is prioritized to #2, etc).  You can also see that all the work we did in 2018 has not been wasted and that what we learned about botnets and POBH is also still present and has evolved for this next release.

Nutritional Information Guide:
https://wiki.biblepay.org/Nutrition_Information

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I spoke to RattleR at GIN today and he confirmed they have upgraded their platform to handle Deterministic Sanctuaries (Evolution).

So this is a positive thing for us as we will not be hindered while transitioning.

GIN Masternode Hosting:
https://p.ginplatform.io/#!/

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I realize we have been through an absolutely massive amount of changes and this is partially because the IT requirements list in this project has expanded beyond the original scope required for a launch and then software maintenance (even for a DAC).

But let me put your mind at ease in a couple areas.  Inside the Evo release, we are no longer looking at individual requirements to fulfill an objective.  We are now actually making a generic extensible abstraction layer that I believe can handle all of the DAC requirements in the future. (Including decentralized orphanage contracts and Cioccolanti's integration ideas and web tipping and HTML5 and all that).

So what this means is the end is coming for continual changes (and I don't want those either, I'm on board with this).
The other very large item is our change to be rebase proof that is coming.  Starting in Evo, we are going to release code in a way where we continually honor Dash's future prod commits as they commit also (meaning this will future proof biblepay).

Regarding the actual content you do have a say.  Please join us in the testnet thread and test Evo and paste wishlist items.  I want Evo to be easy to use for everyone + Grandma.  

Finally, even though Evo looks daunting because of acronyms, we are still going to create a dashboard for Grandma towards the end of the cycle so you can drive Evo like a normal car.

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BiblePay Forum - TestNet - BiblePay-Evolution & GSCs (Generic Smart Contracts)
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=391.0

BiblePay Evolution
https://github.com/biblepay/biblepay-evolution

I'm starting to add some documentation to explain to new users how to get started:

Getting started with Evolution:
https://wiki.biblepay.org/Getting_Started_with_Evolution

GSC's:
https://wiki.biblepay.org/Generic_Smart_Contracts

Healing Campaign:
https://wiki.biblepay.org/BiblePay_Healing_Campaign

Street Healing:
https://wiki.biblepay.org/Street_Healing

Spiritual Warfare:
https://wiki.biblepay.org/Spiritual-Warfare-I

I realize we need a specific section for Grandma also - I'll continue to refine the getting started guide.

Please let me know if anyone would like to see more expanded info on any of these, and/or if this is sufficient to call us "easy to use" with the release of Evo.

Reference: https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=391.msg5803#msg5803

[capulo]

Hello Everyone,

I'm mining / podc (when it was active) this coin now for about 5 months.

I have my worries about the fact that this project still is listed on c-cex. This exchange is a fraud, and if you don't believe that, just read the comments in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=418700.4560
I would like to insist to the owners of this project to reconsider this exchange. If it works it works, I had my funds there too when I wanted to buy some bbp (it didn't came that far), but this exchange is known for funds that are lost suddenly and account's that are randomly blocked. Luckily my funds are not lost, but at that time when I wanted to generate a bbp wallet the website went down and after a few minutes there appeared an error message on the website. It's not a stable exchange at all, beside that it's a fraud.

I have mentioned earlier that it is a fraud, but it seems nobody cares, since it's still listed in this thread. So I wanted to point this out again.

Thanks for your time.


Best Regards,

Mart1250

yes, c-cex is like weather , i'm locked now too and it seems that support is not working
few weeks ago it works, if you were trying, you was able to create ticket once per 2-3 days, but now i'm trying maybe 10 days and nothig... and there are only few coins so few users...

[togoshigekata]

I am currently owed a free article by Masternode Buzz for BiblePay
https://masternode.buzz/

Is anyone interested in writing an article about BiblePays recent news and developments?
I will gladly reward BBP to you or help you get funded from the monthly budget system
http://wiki.biblepay.org/UnderstandingGovernance

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We have a blog on the wordpress site:
https://www.biblepay.org/journal/

Medium account:
https://medium.com/biblepay-news

Steemit account:
https://steemit.com/@biblepay

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BiblePay Ownership List
https://www.reddit.com/r/BiblePay/comments/9utdsh/biblepay_ownership_list/

Is anyone interested in writing content for BiblePay?
We also need help with the Twitter, Facebook, Reddit etc

https://twitter.com/BiblePay
https://www.facebook.com/BiblePay/
https://www.reddit.com/r/BiblePay/

For instance, we didnt publish anything about Good Friday
and I have no idea what we should post for Easter

If anyone wants to help, just reach out! You can get paid in BBP!

[SEO_Account]

wheres the part where rewards get cut to 50%? or whatever rob just said about hybrid 50/50 thing

[bible_pay]

wheres the part where rewards get cut to 50%? or whatever rob just said about hybrid 50/50 thing

GSC's:
https://wiki.biblepay.org/Generic_Smart_Contracts


The reward gets reallocated from pure POW to half POW half GSC.

Meaning that in todays environment, you only have the choice to run a POBH miner (pure POW) to receive 5000 bbp (or invest a sanc and receive 5000 bbp).

In the GSC environment, you can POW mine for about half, or you can participate in GSC campaigns for the other half.

The GSC campaigns primarily require coin age to participate (meaning those are similar to staking but they are different in the sense that they do not reward the rich since they require unlocked coin age not attributed to sancs to accrue points).

[bible_pay]

We could use some help in TestNet and also for the existing TestNet users to please upgrade:

https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=391.new#new

As we have a lot to test starting at block 40,000.