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January 25, 2014, 10:36:35 PM
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0.01520487 for 32 bonds, or 0.0004751521875/bond

So the question is, how many shareholders are there, and at what spot am I Smiley over or under half

The old list had about 360-ish bond holders, guys around 180-ish had 24 shares

Given that list is a few months old and inaccurate, I'd assume it's still quite accurate for most people who havent traded, so now you can start to prepare, if you have more than 24 bonds, you probably got paid too little, if you have less than 24, you got too much
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January 25, 2014, 10:44:02 PM
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January 25, 2014, 10:45:39 PM
Last edit: January 25, 2014, 10:56:46 PM by BKM
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mine seem to be okay. I received about 10 percent less than what I received last week.. Does that sound right? Looking at the payments, one address received almost 5 coins, now I know that there are a couple big investors, but I dont think they would be that big... a total of about 45 coins were sent out... Something is def. off.. How many coins were sent out last week?

OK - come to think of it - this is wrong - my divs are about 55% of last week...... didn't take the time to look at it closely until now.

[Edit:] I just received another payment from one of two LRM addresses which brings me to approximately BTC0.000524306 per bond now. This appears to correct the error total as this is very close to last week accounting for the diff. Thanks for the quick fix LR.
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January 25, 2014, 10:50:01 PM
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Ouch, https://blockchain.info/address/1NxdocxSrybTnr4ihzHFMwT88aTyCnqcKx

Hope people will return some, guy got 2.287 instead of something near 0.00228
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January 25, 2014, 10:52:04 PM
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Where is the official list kept? The one on LRM's website is not updated.
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January 25, 2014, 10:54:56 PM
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Well looks like mine got fixed, thank you.

He's probably slogging through the list manually now, so guess patience is in order.

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January 25, 2014, 10:56:48 PM
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People like the one noted a few posts above are prob gonna cut and run with their huge payout on single digit shares...

It is going to be hard to convince them not to...

Bottom line... what will happen to addresses that refuse to repay, and how will that affect the rest of us? where is that extra BTC going to come from... not future divs I hope... no way that is on the bond holders shoulders... we can't control other holder's actions nor can we control how divs are sent.

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January 25, 2014, 10:57:39 PM
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There are a couple people that have a lot of shares, but something is def. wrong. But lets give LR time to correct it, im 100 percent confident that he will make good on all dividends. If someone could post the google sheet that shows how many shares each address has. I dont know how many I have "exactly" I know within a hundred shares on how many i own, but a link would be appreciated, that way Ill know if I was over/under paid..
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January 25, 2014, 11:00:06 PM
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People like the one noted a few posts above are prob gonna cut and run with their huge payout on single digit shares...

It is going to be hard to convince them not to...

Bottom line... what will happen to addresses that refuse to repay, and how will that affect the rest of us? where is that extra BTC going to come from... not future divs I hope... no way that is on the bond holders shoulders... we can't control other holder's actions nor can we control how divs are sent.

It sucks but LR is going to most likely take the hit for this - there is nothing in his past approach to such issues which leads me to believe that bondholders will be on the hook for a mistake such as this. It will be a credit to character (karma?) of those bondholders that elect to return the unearned btc. Those that cut and run should have their bonds cancelled back to LRM and LRM collect on the divs due those bonds until they are even. Just my two satoshis
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January 25, 2014, 11:00:52 PM
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There are a couple people that have a lot of shares, but something is def. wrong. But lets give LR time to correct it, im 100 percent confident that he will make good on all dividends. If someone could post the google sheet that shows how many shares each address has. I dont know how many I have "exactly" I know within a hundred shares on how many i own, but a link would be appreciated, that way Ill know if I was over/under paid..

The corrections are coming out right now for those who were underpaid
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January 25, 2014, 11:01:08 PM
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You can always do the work of seeing who returns it and who doesn't, and from those people keep it from their future divs untill it's corrected again

grnbrg has an official list I believe
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January 25, 2014, 11:03:20 PM
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It sucks but LR is going to most likely take the hit for this - there is nothing in his past approach to such issues which leads me to believe that bondholders will be on the hook for a mistake such as this. It will be a credit to character (karma?) of those bondholders that elect to return the unearned btc. Those that cut and run should have their bonds cancelled back to LRM and LRM collect on the divs due those bonds until they are even. Just my two satoshis
How can a hand full of shares that got payed 1000x of the correct ammount can ever pay it back? This employee should fix the mess out of his own pocket...
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January 25, 2014, 11:04:41 PM
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It sucks but LR is going to most likely take the hit for this - there is nothing in his past approach to such issues which leads me to believe that bondholders will be on the hook for a mistake such as this. It will be a credit to character (karma?) of those bondholders that elect to return the unearned btc. Those that cut and run should have their bonds cancelled back to LRM and LRM collect on the divs due those bonds until they are even. Just my two satoshis
How can a hand full of shares that got payed 1000x of the correct ammount can ever pay it back? This employee should fix the mess out of his own pocket...

If they are honest, they just return it. If they are not honest, they most likely wont be getting any divs for a long time
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January 25, 2014, 11:10:06 PM
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Ouch, https://blockchain.info/address/1NxdocxSrybTnr4ihzHFMwT88aTyCnqcKx

Hope people will return some, guy got 2.287 instead of something near 0.00228

There is at least one copy/paste error.  The top list and bottom list are almost identical.  Notice how the same number sequence is repeating......

1NxdocxSrybTnr4ihzHFMwT88aTyCnqcKx 2.28702289 BTC
1ECfbpmtVCtH16yF3m3uhwjX9JrjyQazoh 0.1478543 BTC
18wTznDgoipN8VeZCbq2meLrikRjUad19j 0.01625349 BTC
1D79X6cjxfAzQ7ysSURrpihGhxfTbNH6eZ 0.00786459 BTC
1KtegEdSn6VDNJhZNU7RVEp5Pp4qneQ8vv 0.00419445 BTC
195hcSe3B6Fsqk2oSHqebTP6oZ97xD2pKB 0.07130562 BTC
1LxsHZGQ1Y5C2Jprh2ZU9iSNr2u3Z6UqR7 0.01572918 BTC
1JE1T2mTFmVN18VhrgiMRMpAujEdftkjiN 0.02516669 BTC
14vzHK1JpcFuu4Rxs3EfmDeFubJTohNeoW 0.00157292 BTC
1XxqsbzQQSiekHWtiJFWciwB9m2egpija 0.00314584 BTC
1Cy4ioFvbQn9GY8FUDpt5Q9xcyh7ytn6eB 0.03932295 BTC
1NqQ771kj8qJK7sA6BGgRJ96uyT8Ws1yag 1.04861206 BTC
18Yo74rf6Hwsx7c5BszRdtk7kNFTcpVNgN 0.08651049 BTC
1Ae4BgvxKBqGYe94tfe1oqg8t9RnSgqLZD 0.00104861 BTC
1F2yrQp1NXJqeuQdGvcM8dwG56FnTbhL88 0.00052431 BTC


19v8g4e94ZqcR7Cv3Q6k6nabGZBsM24Zhs 2.28702289 BTC
1AwNJJZzs7vnyizJvjb1YPD2xQHkNfbae 0.1478543 BTC
1ERESdsTjdUQBSsg46iihjyAzqFUZTMJ46 0.01625349 BTC
115uLwTHBQyeF5EqmPMwnskXAhaf3JU3JA 0.00786459 BTC
165QoG8JRzJggtbM9LuZjPDaBBZf5xL1tM 0.07130562 BTC
1yrdiDVQD14KmndGfmnXdjDsQa45zYndw 0.01572918 BTC
1AnibaWMJkgafBJCVjR5iW2NSqoaNsxsFP 0.02516669 BTC
1JMDsor5LLSxtoNTvysAkta4k22yWM1ZpN 0.00157292 BTC
1BuTc3Z6cdU7UQfBqU5Tv7FZ8Lp6X2819H 0.00314584 BTC
1D46jqdzpHFhugujaHdSoGeqiXcpeC6hMQ 0.03932295 BTC
1ENSExprPZxmAKEYB2nFqpYU9oUBL9ZS6t 1.04861206 BTC
127sdDBnQUkdzg1TwhWEPhb18y4MqkVyHx 0.08651049 BTC
1A5wVw3jThtjVhXpDN6fX85nxrwtucywBe 0.00052431 BTC
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January 25, 2014, 11:16:49 PM
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I got about 20x what I should have gotten.
Awaiting further instruction.

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January 25, 2014, 11:18:11 PM
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It seems this issue has a common history with the still unresolved method for bond trading. BitFunder didn't only make trading bonds as easy as it should be, but it apparently made dividend payouts easy & error resistant.
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January 25, 2014, 11:24:55 PM
Last edit: January 26, 2014, 03:29:53 AM by tar_meneldur
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I got paid 0.01625349 for 31 bonds, or .000524306 per bond.
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January 25, 2014, 11:25:32 PM
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It seems this issue has a common history with the still unresolved method for bond trading. BitFunder didn't only make trading bonds as easy as it should be, but it apparently made dividend payouts easy & error resistant.

What we need is an LRM version of CEX.io

Some cost for dev up front but I have not doubt at all it would return big time to the bondholders - I for one vote we take 10 btc or so and get it coded up along the same lines
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January 25, 2014, 11:32:45 PM
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That is nice, Cex.IO actually pays for shares directly from the interface if you load up how much to allocate per, and it does it automatically. Might be a option to check out.

EDIT:

I got 0.01625349 BTC this week, against 0.03886648 BTC for last week for the same number of shares, doesnt seem right.
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January 26, 2014, 12:30:06 AM
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Some underpayment corrections went out about an hour ago.   The rest of the corrections should follow shortly.

As far as the people who were overpaid, I'll talk some more with Lab_Rat about how that is going to be handled.  I see a number of possibilities, and there's no reason to rush forward and complicate things any further.


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