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[spiccioli]

Again ROI in fiat, not btc.  Assuming prices stay around $140/btc and that one can maintain each card at an average of 34Ghash/sec per card for months at a time 24/7/30.

I'm sorry, but ROI in FIAT has no economic sense.

If you need that your BTCs increase in value to get a return you're better off buying and holding them.

If you spent 600 USD (which then were 10 BTCs - it is just an example!) and then you get back, one year from now, 8 BTCs that have a value of 80K USD (just to give an extreme revaluation example) you've simply lost 20K USD!

spiccioli

[af_newbie]

If you paid in USD Using this Better Calculator below ( In my Opinion ) I see ROI pretty quickly no matter how I change it. If you used BTC then you probably bought these when BTC was 76$ a coin then well ouch.

http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php?diff=148819199.80509&dcosts=8000&diff_mincrease=20&blpbtc=25&dhsmhs=400000&diff_mincreasedecrease=0.1&btcusd=129.50&dpowcon=380&btcusd_mincrease=0&pcost=0.09&calcweeks=40&dleadtime=1&action=calc

calculate 1.3 coins per day. "What a 400gh Fury makes today"
then drop that 30% every 10 days.

I don't see any ROI.

If you received full kit today.  Here is what you'd get:

1.3   Tuesday, October 01, 2013   
0.91   Friday, October 11, 2013   13
0.637   Monday, October 21, 2013   9.1
0.4459   Thursday, October 31, 2013   6.37
0.31213   Sunday, November 10, 2013   4.459
0.218491   Wednesday, November 20, 2013   3.1213
0.1529437   Saturday, November 30, 2013   2.18491
0.10706059   Tuesday, December 10, 2013   1.529437
0.074942413   Friday, December 20, 2013   1.0706059
0.052459689   Monday, December 30, 2013   0.74942413
0.036721782   Thursday, January 09, 2014   0.524596891
0.025705248   Sunday, January 19, 2014   0.367217824
0.017993673   Wednesday, January 29, 2014   0.257052477
0.012595571   Saturday, February 08, 2014   0.179936734
0.0088169   Tuesday, February 18, 2014   0.125955714
0.00617183   Friday, February 28, 2014   0.088168999
0.004320281   Monday, March 10, 2014   0.0617183
0.003024197   Thursday, March 20, 2014   0.04320281
0.002116938   Sunday, March 30, 2014   0.030241967
0.001481856   Wednesday, April 09, 2014   0.021169377
0.001037299   Saturday, April 19, 2014   0.014818564
0.00072611   Tuesday, April 29, 2014   0.010372995
0.000508277   Friday, May 09, 2014   0.007261096
0.000355794   Monday, May 19, 2014   0.005082767
0.000249056   Thursday, May 29, 2014   0.003557937
0.000174339   Sunday, June 08, 2014   0.002490556
0.000122037   Wednesday, June 18, 2014   0.001743389
8.54261E-05   Saturday, June 28, 2014   0.001220372
5.97982E-05   Tuesday, July 08, 2014   0.000854261
      
   Total   43.33134006

$8000/126 = BTC63.5

So full kit is "worth" $5400 to break even.  It should be 4K to make any ROI.

[ethought]

Still waiting on a refund..

Me too - been 10 days now - After multiple emails megabigpower.com keeps telling me that my refund is coming - they say Dave wants to do all refunds at once... I'm getting concerned now.  

[frankenmint]

What is the type of Raspberry Pi used with these I'd like to buy a backup one now. 

[flyboy]

If you paid in USD Using this Better Calculator below ( In my Opinion ) I see ROI pretty quickly no matter how I change it. If you used BTC then you probably bought these when BTC was 76$ a coin then well ouch.

http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php?diff=148819199.80509&dcosts=8000&diff_mincrease=20&blpbtc=25&dhsmhs=400000&diff_mincreasedecrease=0.1&btcusd=129.50&dpowcon=380&btcusd_mincrease=0&pcost=0.09&calcweeks=40&dleadtime=1&action=calc

calculate 1.3 coins per day. "What a 400gh Fury makes today"
then drop that 30% every 10 days.

I don't see any ROI.

If you received them today.  Here is what you'd get:


1.3   Tuesday, October 01, 2013   
0.91   Friday, October 11, 2013   13
0.637   Monday, October 21, 2013   9.1
0.4459   Thursday, October 31, 2013   6.37
0.31213   Sunday, November 10, 2013   4.459
0.218491   Wednesday, November 20, 2013   3.1213
0.1529437   Saturday, November 30, 2013   2.18491
0.10706059   Tuesday, December 10, 2013   1.529437
0.074942413   Friday, December 20, 2013   1.0706059
0.052459689   Monday, December 30, 2013   0.74942413
0.036721782   Thursday, January 09, 2014   0.524596891
0.025705248   Sunday, January 19, 2014   0.367217824
0.017993673   Wednesday, January 29, 2014   0.257052477
0.012595571   Saturday, February 08, 2014   0.179936734
0.0088169   Tuesday, February 18, 2014   0.125955714
0.00617183   Friday, February 28, 2014   0.088168999
0.004320281   Monday, March 10, 2014   0.0617183
0.003024197   Thursday, March 20, 2014   0.04320281
0.002116938   Sunday, March 30, 2014   0.030241967
0.001481856   Wednesday, April 09, 2014   0.021169377
0.001037299   Saturday, April 19, 2014   0.014818564
0.00072611   Tuesday, April 29, 2014   0.010372995
0.000508277   Friday, May 09, 2014   0.007261096
0.000355794   Monday, May 19, 2014   0.005082767
0.000249056   Thursday, May 29, 2014   0.003557937
0.000174339   Sunday, June 08, 2014   0.002490556
0.000122037   Wednesday, June 18, 2014   0.001743389
8.54261E-05   Saturday, June 28, 2014   0.001220372
5.97982E-05   Tuesday, July 08, 2014   0.000854261
      
   Total   43.33134006

Numbers look right now kill that first two weeks and give me that total...

[spiccioli]

If you paid in USD Using this Better Calculator below ( In my Opinion ) I see ROI pretty quickly no matter how I change it. If you used BTC then you probably bought these when BTC was 76$ a coin then well ouch.

Even if you bought it using "free" BTCs that you bought three years ago for 1c each, you've simply lost (part of) their current value in USD.

Since miners produce BTCs you need to do something that increases your BTCs.

Every one here already believes that BTCs will have a higher value in the future, otherwise no one would be buying units that produce BTCs.

spiccioli

[Doff]

If you paid in USD Using this Better Calculator below ( In my Opinion ) I see ROI pretty quickly no matter how I change it. If you used BTC then you probably bought these when BTC was 76$ a coin then well ouch.

http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php?diff=148819199.80509&dcosts=8000&diff_mincrease=20&blpbtc=25&dhsmhs=400000&diff_mincreasedecrease=0.1&btcusd=129.50&dpowcon=380&btcusd_mincrease=0&pcost=0.09&calcweeks=40&dleadtime=1&action=calc

calculate 1.3 coins per day. "What a 400gh Fury makes today"
then drop that 30% every 10 days.

I don't see any ROI.

There is no way it just keeps Jumping its already slowing down with the current Diff, I am sure we will see huge surges at the end of OCT, and Jan, but I just dont see 1,001,375,593   Diff by Jan 28, just eyballing it that's like 5 times current network speed but only time will tell I suppose. Plus in the EU thread the new Units are hashing at a better rate one Person stated 35 Per card with pencil Mod, that's 560GH even if you only get 520 out of yours I still see ROI if you paid in USD not BTC.

[Cablez]

What is the type of Raspberry Pi used with these I'd like to buy a backup one now. 

Box says Raspberry Pi Model B Revision 2.0 (512MB)

[skrazy]

Still waiting on a refund..

Me too - been 10 days now - After multiple email megabigpower.com keeps telling me that my refund is coming - they say Dave wants to do all refunds at once... I'm getting concerned now.  

Has any one been given a figure on the refund? 10+ days since the initial email from Dave.

[ethought]

Still waiting on a refund..

Me too - been 10 days now - After multiple email megabigpower.com keeps telling me that my refund is coming - they say Dave wants to do all refunds at once... I'm getting concerned now.  

Has any one been given a figure on the refund? 10+ days since the initial email from Dave.

8 days ago I got this email from megabigpower.com

"Dave is working on this and hopes to make the refund soon.  I think he has a couple of these to do and wants to do them all at one time.  I can't give you an exact date, but I would expect to see it within the next several days."

I have asked for updates and they keep telling me it is coming.

They have not responded to my last email though... Like I said getting worried.

[af_newbie]

If you paid in USD Using this Better Calculator below ( In my Opinion ) I see ROI pretty quickly no matter how I change it. If you used BTC then you probably bought these when BTC was 76$ a coin then well ouch.

http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php?diff=148819199.80509&dcosts=8000&diff_mincrease=20&blpbtc=25&dhsmhs=400000&diff_mincreasedecrease=0.1&btcusd=129.50&dpowcon=380&btcusd_mincrease=0&pcost=0.09&calcweeks=40&dleadtime=1&action=calc

calculate 1.3 coins per day. "What a 400gh Fury makes today"
then drop that 30% every 10 days.

I don't see any ROI.

If you received them today.  Here is what you'd get:


1.3   Tuesday, October 01, 2013   
0.91   Friday, October 11, 2013   13
0.637   Monday, October 21, 2013   9.1
0.4459   Thursday, October 31, 2013   6.37
0.31213   Sunday, November 10, 2013   4.459
0.218491   Wednesday, November 20, 2013   3.1213
0.1529437   Saturday, November 30, 2013   2.18491
0.10706059   Tuesday, December 10, 2013   1.529437
0.074942413   Friday, December 20, 2013   1.0706059
0.052459689   Monday, December 30, 2013   0.74942413
0.036721782   Thursday, January 09, 2014   0.524596891
0.025705248   Sunday, January 19, 2014   0.367217824
0.017993673   Wednesday, January 29, 2014   0.257052477
0.012595571   Saturday, February 08, 2014   0.179936734
0.0088169   Tuesday, February 18, 2014   0.125955714
0.00617183   Friday, February 28, 2014   0.088168999
0.004320281   Monday, March 10, 2014   0.0617183
0.003024197   Thursday, March 20, 2014   0.04320281
0.002116938   Sunday, March 30, 2014   0.030241967
0.001481856   Wednesday, April 09, 2014   0.021169377
0.001037299   Saturday, April 19, 2014   0.014818564
0.00072611   Tuesday, April 29, 2014   0.010372995
0.000508277   Friday, May 09, 2014   0.007261096
0.000355794   Monday, May 19, 2014   0.005082767
0.000249056   Thursday, May 29, 2014   0.003557937
0.000174339   Sunday, June 08, 2014   0.002490556
0.000122037   Wednesday, June 18, 2014   0.001743389
8.54261E-05   Saturday, June 28, 2014   0.001220372
5.97982E-05   Tuesday, July 08, 2014   0.000854261
      
   Total   43.33134006

Numbers look right now kill that first two weeks and give me that total...

Just subtract 43.33-13-9.1=21.23  if received in the 3rd week of October, and 14.86 if received at the end of October.

[Doff]

If you paid in USD Using this Better Calculator below ( In my Opinion ) I see ROI pretty quickly no matter how I change it. If you used BTC then you probably bought these when BTC was 76$ a coin then well ouch.

Even if you bought it using "free" BTCs that you bought three years ago for 1c each, you've simply lost (part of) their current value in USD.

Since miners produce BTCs you need to do something that increases your BTCs.

Every one here already believes that BTCs will have a higher value in the future, otherwise no one would be buying units that produce BTCs.

spiccioli

That makes sense, Anyhow I wouldn't complain if there was a Discount for the OCT units if they come the 3-4th week.

[flyboy]

Still waiting on a refund..

Me too - been 10 days now - After multiple email megabigpower.com keeps telling me that my refund is coming - they say Dave wants to do all refunds at once... I'm getting concerned now.  

Has any one been given a figure on the refund? 10+ days since the initial email from Dave.

8 days ago I got this email from megabigpower.com

"Dave is working on this and hopes to make the refund soon.  I think he has a couple of these to do and wants to do them all at one time.  I can't give you an exact date, but I would expect to see it within the next several days."

I have asked for updates and they keep telling me it is coming.

They have not responded to my last email though... Like I said getting worried.

or get strung along until after product is shipping...

[flyboy]

If I don't hear back in the next few days I will just file for a charge back through my CC.

[greaterninja]

If you paid in USD Using this Better Calculator below ( In my Opinion ) I see ROI pretty quickly no matter how I change it. If you used BTC then you probably bought these when BTC was 76$ a coin then well ouch.

http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php?diff=148819199.80509&dcosts=8000&diff_mincrease=20&blpbtc=25&dhsmhs=400000&diff_mincreasedecrease=0.1&btcusd=129.50&dpowcon=380&btcusd_mincrease=0&pcost=0.09&calcweeks=40&dleadtime=1&action=calc

calculate 1.3 coins per day. "What a 400gh Fury makes today"
then drop that 30% every 10 days.

I don't see any ROI.

To be fair its an average of about 33% every 10.4 days.     (difficulty average increase over the last couple weeks).  
But as far as bitfury you should do 16x33.125  GH/s  = 530 GH/s.

or 33.125 Gh/s per H-card.

[superduh]

i've been saying no roi for weeks now. the ghash private pull fucked things up and they cut into everyone elses "profits"

[spiccioli]

i've been saying no roi for weeks now. the ghash private pull fucked things up and they cut into everyone elses "profits"

+1  Just one of many of their addresses:

https://blockchain.info/address/1CjPR7Z5ZSyWk6WtXvSFgkptmpoi4UM9BC

Almost as good as avalon.  Not quite, but they are getting there.

A lot better actually, since they are so much more energy efficient.

I think 200 THs could run on 200-250 kW.

spiccioli

[mangox]

Nice job!

[spiccioli]

i've been saying no roi for weeks now. the ghash private pull fucked things up and they cut into everyone elses "profits"

And now they're reselling the same 200 TH/s at 0.2 BTC/GH so if they sell it all they end up with 40K more BTCs which is what they could mine in two-three months!



spiccioli

[Biomech]

Again ROI in fiat, not btc.  Assuming prices stay around $140/btc and that one can maintain each card at an average of 34Ghash/sec per card for months at a time 24/7/30.

I'm sorry, but ROI in FIAT has no economic sense.

If you need that your BTCs increase in value to get a return you're better off buying and holding them.

If you spent 600 USD (which then were 10 BTCs - it is just an example!) and then you get back, one year from now, 8 BTCs that have a value of 80K USD (just to give an extreme revaluation example) you've simply lost 20K USD!

spiccioli

Oh, Horseshit. Exchange rates are the HEART of currency trading, and this has been true pretty much since the dawn of time.