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November 12, 2013, 01:11:00 AM
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Okay I want to brainstorm my ideas a little bit.
Here's what I am going to do. I am thinking of decoupling the voltage regulator from the PCB since it causes so much overheating issues. It will reduce board BOM and hopefully faster turnaround by PCB manufacturer.

I am planning to use multiples of this regulator since the output can be paralleled (~$55 e.a.)

http://www.intersil.com/en/tools/reference-designs/isl8225meval3z.html


a) Order chips ($25 ea on megabigpower.com)
b) Order decoupling capacitors for ASICs
c) Get PCB made and assembled by the PCB company (only solder ASIC + decoupling caps. No need to solder voltage regulator section)
d) Order Voltage regulators
e) Test assembled cards
f) Mine
g) If successful, sell to interested parties Wink


You'll have no margins for profit if chips are $25 ea.  That's $400 for the ASICs alone.

And I think it's generally expected when MGP and BFSB started selling H boards again they're going to have to price them at less than $300 per board or they'll generate very little interest.
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November 12, 2013, 01:14:56 AM
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Does anyone know what this means? I'm having to restart bfgminer around every 5-10 minutes.

[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cc: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cd: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ce: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cf: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cg: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ch: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ci: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cj: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ck: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cl: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries

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November 12, 2013, 01:27:50 AM
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Does anyone know what this means? I'm having to restart bfgminer around every 5-10 minutes.

[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cc: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cd: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ce: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cf: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cg: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ch: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ci: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cj: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ck: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cl: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries

   you sure not use BGFMINER and not working well with Hboards.
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November 12, 2013, 01:30:04 AM
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Does anyone know what this means? I'm having to restart bfgminer around every 5-10 minutes.

[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cc: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cd: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ce: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cf: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cg: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ch: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ci: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cj: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ck: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cl: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries

   you sure not use BGFMINER and not working well with Hboards.


I couldn't get chainminer to work at all, all it does is freeze at

"M-Board version 2 detected
INIT: 256 chips detected"

At least bfgminer mines for a while.

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November 12, 2013, 01:41:48 AM
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Does anyone know what this means? I'm having to restart bfgminer around every 5-10 minutes.

[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cc: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cd: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ce: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cf: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cg: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ch: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ci: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cj: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ck: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cl: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries

   you sure not use BGFMINER and not working well with Hboards.


I couldn't get chainminer to work at all, all it does is freeze at

"M-Board version 2 detected
INIT: 256 chips detected"

At least bfgminer mines for a while.

That's happened to me with chainminer before. I just rebooted the rPi or restarted chainminer until it worked. Also, be patient, sometimes it takes a minute or two to get past that point.

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OK, I can manually run chainminer with this:

Code:
sudo killall -q miner ; cd /run/shm ; sudo /opt/bitfury/chainminer/miner

But all I get is "INIT: 64 chips detected" (after I compiled)

What's next?

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EDIT:  I got it to work by deleting existing chainminer & cloning & making a new copy
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November 12, 2013, 01:45:40 AM
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OK, I can manually run chainminer with this:

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sudo killall -q miner ; cd /run/shm ; sudo /opt/bitfury/chainminer/miner

But all I get is "INIT: 64 chips detected" (after I compiled)

What's next?

chamber32


See above.

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November 12, 2013, 01:48:10 AM
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 Your errors overkill more than 50% and if you are not going to run 850W with 2 full kits.


 Swapped out the PSU for a Corsair AX1200.

 Chainminer runs fine for a little bit, then a few boards start dropping down to 0GH/s.

 BFGMiner is a fail spamming all sorts of nastiness.

 *sigh* Very frustrating Sad

 These guys are finicky Sad Have some big-ass fans keeping them cool, so I can't imagine they are overheating Sad Room is 76C.

 Below you can see the few boards that are starting to reach 0GH after starting strong.

speed:13568 noncerate[GH/s]:452.817 (1.769/chip) hashrate[GH/s]:478.766 good:25514 errors:3816 spi-err:8 miso-err:10 duplicates:505 jobs:230 cores:12% good:256 bad:0 off:0 (best[GH/s]:0.000) Tue Nov 12 01:47:09 2013
board-2 speed   nrate   hrate   good    errors  spi-err miso-er duplic  good    bad     off     per chip        good cores
0:      848     33.987  35.587  1915    35      0       1       0       16      0       0       (2.124/chip)    15%
1:      848     10.737  10.941  605     352     0       2       25      16      0       0       (0.671/chip)    5%
2:      848     12.051  14.112  679     139     0       1       16      16      0       0       (0.753/chip)    5%
3:      848     35.212  36.216  1984    220     2       0       39      16      0       0       (2.201/chip)    15%
4:      848     19.398  19.969  1093    255     0       2       77      16      0       0       (1.212/chip)    9%
5:      848     31.343  33.884  1766    100     0       0       2       16      0       0       (1.959/chip)    13%
6:      848     32.745  36.754  1845    128     0       0       1       16      0       0       (2.047/chip)    14%
7:      848     19.540  19.864  1101    327     0       1       55      16      0       0       (1.221/chip)    9%
8:      848     34.395  36.531  1938    119     0       0       0       16      0       0       (2.150/chip)    15%
9:      848     33.827  35.627  1906    43      1       0       0       16      0       0       (2.114/chip)    15%
A:      848     34.697  36.334  1955    50      1       0       0       16      0       0       (2.169/chip)    15%
B:      848     35.229  36.334  1985    4       0       0       0       16      0       0       (2.202/chip)    15%
C:      848     34.910  35.456  1967    13      1       0       0       16      0       0       (2.182/chip)    15%
D:      848     31.343  33.674  1766    905     1       1       177     16      0       0       (1.959/chip)    14%
E:      848     32.017  35.365  1804    148     1       0       0       16      0       0       (2.001/chip)    14%
F:      848     21.386  22.118  1205    978     1       2       113     16      0       0       (1.337/chip)    10%


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November 12, 2013, 01:49:54 AM
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Xian, turn down the voltage by turning the trimpots to the left on those cards

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BFGMiner has been running for 35 minutes now, might have been a heat issue. Its cold outside now and I leave the window in the server room open.

The 1 dead H-board is still dead tho. I might try immersion cooling after it gets RMA'd

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Xian, turn down the voltage by turning the trimpots to the left on those cards

 I'll try that. Thanks !
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What's the login and the password?

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What's the login and the password?

user: pi
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November 12, 2013, 02:19:37 AM
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I was seeming to get good hashrates relatively (like ~520 - 550 GH/s)   Just got home see that my rate was around 385 with two dead cards (currently I have my miner restarting once an hour in case that happens...look like it didnt seem to help this last go round  Embarrassed )

to restart my miner, in ssh  type

Code:
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*/60 * * * * sudo /opt/bitfury/start-miner.sh

No offense, but this kit is wierd, awkward, lacking, whatever you want to call it.  So far I've spent a lot of time:

Taking all cards out and slowly adding them and running it for 30 minutes to see how high they go and to attempt to set them to around 30 GH.  I tuned the majority of them to stay on, here is my up to the minutes stats from CAT:

 
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speed:13312 noncerate[GH/s]:473.076 (1.848/chip) hashrate[GH/s]:486.648 good:330
    44 errors:595 spi-err:9 miso-err:6 jobs:369 cores:29%
    good:256 bad:0 off:0 (best [GH/s]:0.000) Tue Nov 12 02:10:12 2013
0:      832     31.267  32.005  2184    24      1       2       16      0      0          (1.954/chip)    30%
1:      832     19.843  22.460  1386    140     0       4       16      0      0         (1.240/chip)    20%
2:      832     26.700  28.158  1865    86      0       0       16      0      0          (1.669/chip)    26%
3:      832     32.098  33.178  2242    19      1       0       16      0      0          (2.006/chip)    30%
4:      832     34.789  34.816  2430    21      2       0       16      0      0          (2.174/chip)    33%
5:      832     34.231  34.394  2391    26      1       0       16      0      0          (2.139/chip)    32%
6:      832     29.735  30.229  2077    13      0       0       16      0      0          (1.858/chip)    29%
7:      832     28.461  29.384  1988    27      0       0       16      0      0          (1.779/chip)    28%
8:      832     33.028  33.104  2307    21      0       0       16      0      0          (2.064/chip)    32%
9:      832     24.653  25.927  1722    56      1       0       16      0      0          (1.541/chip)    25%
A:      832     34.417  34.520  2404    23      0       0       16      0      0          (2.151/chip)    32%
B:      832     32.298  32.755  2256    13      0       0       16      0      0          (2.019/chip)    31%
C:      832     31.783  32.576  2220    27      0       0       16      0      0          (1.986/chip)    31%
D:      832     26.156  27.301  1827    21      0       0       16      0      0          (1.635/chip)    26%
E:      832     23.093  24.300  1613    66      1       0       16      0      0          (1.443/chip)    23%
F:      832     30.523  31.540  2132    12      2       0       16      0      0          (1.908/chip)    31%

Not terrible but by no means any good by what Dave quoted earlier.  (might have increased slightly because my main window shows 475 GH/s)

Good job to the dumbass misguided helper who chose the smaller than atomic particle Potentiometers (something just a little bit bigger that wouldve been easier to catch with a screwdriver would have made all the difference to me) that are too small for anything.  Smallest screwdriver I could find in frys barely seems to catch them most of the time.  Extremely frustrating when trying to undervolt the cards for the sake of keeping them on.  

I have a SHIT-TON  of heat sinks - The only thing I could think to do more now is to buy up another 32 tiny heat sinks to put onto the top and the back of the voltage regulator.


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November 12, 2013, 02:23:57 AM
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Good job to the dumbass misguided helper who chose the smaller than atomic particle Potentiometers (something just a little bit bigger that wouldve been easier to catch with a screwdriver would have made all the difference to me) that are too small for anything.  Smallest screwdriver I could find in frys barely seems to catch them most of the time.  Extremely frustrating when trying to undervolt the cards for the sake of keeping them on.  

 No kidding Sad Having a helluva time with the smallest screwdriver I could find from Fry's...

 Not even sure if I'm getting any movement.
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Good job to the dumbass misguided helper who chose the smaller than atomic particle Potentiometers (something just a little bit bigger that wouldve been easier to catch with a screwdriver would have made all the difference to me) that are too small for anything.  Smallest screwdriver I could find in frys barely seems to catch them most of the time.  Extremely frustrating when trying to undervolt the cards for the sake of keeping them on. 

 No kidding Sad Having a helluva time with the smallest screwdriver I could find from Fry's...

 Not even sure if I'm getting any movement.

Get yourself a phone repair kit, the ones that came with my replacement screen fit perfectly.

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November 12, 2013, 02:41:51 AM
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Good job to the dumbass misguided helper who chose the smaller than atomic particle Potentiometers (something just a little bit bigger that wouldve been easier to catch with a screwdriver would have made all the difference to me) that are too small for anything.  Smallest screwdriver I could find in frys barely seems to catch them most of the time.  Extremely frustrating when trying to undervolt the cards for the sake of keeping them on. 

 No kidding Sad Having a helluva time with the smallest screwdriver I could find from Fry's...

 Not even sure if I'm getting any movement.

Get yourself a phone repair kit, the ones that came with my replacement screen fit perfectly.

Or an eyeglass repair kit.
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November 12, 2013, 02:47:42 AM
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Okay I want to brainstorm my ideas a little bit.
Here's what I am going to do. I am thinking of decoupling the voltage regulator from the PCB since it causes so much overheating issues. It will reduce board BOM and hopefully faster turnaround by PCB manufacturer.

I am planning to use multiples of this regulator since the output can be paralleled (~$55 e.a.)

http://www.intersil.com/en/tools/reference-designs/isl8225meval3z.html


a) Order chips ($25 ea on megabigpower.com)
b) Order decoupling capacitors for ASICs
c) Get PCB made and assembled by the PCB company (only solder ASIC + decoupling caps. No need to solder voltage regulator section)
d) Order Voltage regulators
e) Test assembled cards
f) Mine
g) If successful, sell to interested parties Wink


You'll have no margins for profit if chips are $25 ea.  That's $400 for the ASICs alone.

And I think it's generally expected when MGP and BFSB started selling H boards again they're going to have to price them at less than $300 per board or they'll generate very little interest.

Lets say I do it without any profit margins, just for the community at first.

BTW can I use this to hand solder the ASICs without much problems? http://www.cmlsupply.com/model-850-esd-safe-hot-air-rework-station.html?gclid=COTelKSe3roCFa1AMgod8VMAaw

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November 12, 2013, 02:50:47 AM
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Okay I want to brainstorm my ideas a little bit.
Here's what I am going to do. I am thinking of decoupling the voltage regulator from the PCB since it causes so much overheating issues. It will reduce board BOM and hopefully faster turnaround by PCB manufacturer.

I am planning to use multiples of this regulator since the output can be paralleled (~$55 e.a.)

http://www.intersil.com/en/tools/reference-designs/isl8225meval3z.html


a) Order chips ($25 ea on megabigpower.com)
b) Order decoupling capacitors for ASICs
c) Get PCB made and assembled by the PCB company (only solder ASIC + decoupling caps. No need to solder voltage regulator section)
d) Order Voltage regulators
e) Test assembled cards
f) Mine
g) If successful, sell to interested parties Wink


You'll have no margins for profit if chips are $25 ea.  That's $400 for the ASICs alone.

And I think it's generally expected when MGP and BFSB started selling H boards again they're going to have to price them at less than $300 per board or they'll generate very little interest.

Lets say I do it without any profit margins, just for the community at first.

   by time you got pcb and chip price for Jan. 2014 like 5.00 per chip.
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November 12, 2013, 02:51:02 AM
 #3740

 Something definitely seems amiss with these kits.

 I received 32 H-Cards, and 2 M-Boards. 1 M-Board is DOA and have filled an RMA request with MBP.

 I've swapped out several H-Cards in slots that had their hash-rate go from full to zero, and even new sealed H-Cards start slowing down and approach 0 GHs in the same slots.
 
 Best I can tell, at least 2 H-Cards are completely DOA, and having sad-times getting a full M-Board hashing steady above 500.

 Fuck Sad

 Will let it run for a few hours and see how things look a bit later...

EDIT: Well, that went to zero quickly... Fuck. Eg: Swapped slot 1 and 2 for new H-Cards...

speed:13568 noncerate[GH/s]:351.042 (1.371/chip) hashrate[GH/s]:367.538 good:24520 errors:8994 spi-err:60 miso-err:125 duplicates:111 jobs:262 cores:24% good:256 bad:0 off:0 (best[GH/s]:0.000) Tue Nov 12 02:52:05 2013
board-2 speed   nrate   hrate   good    errors  spi-err miso-er duplic  good    bad     off     per chip        good cores
0:      848     34.245  35.863  2392    120     0       0       0       16      0       0       (2.140/chip)    31%
1:      848     0.000   0.000   0       0       0       0       0       16      0       0       (0.000/chip)    8%      speed down
2:      848     0.000   0.000   0       0       0       0       0       16      0       0       (0.000/chip)    8%
3:      848     35.391  36.687  2472    3       1       0       0       16      0       0       (2.212/chip)    33%
4:      848     0.000   0.000   0       0       0       0       0       16      0       0       (0.000/chip)    13%
5:      848     32.556  34.499  2274    124     0       0       0       16      0       0       (2.035/chip)    31%
6:      848     34.961  37.417  2442    138     1       0       0       16      0       0       (2.185/chip)    32%
7:      848     0.000   0.000   0       0       0       0       0       16      0       0       (0.000/chip)    10%
8:      848     34.145  36.846  2385    124     0       0       0       16      0       0       (2.134/chip)    31%
9:      848     34.474  35.937  2408    67      1       0       0       16      0       0       (2.155/chip)    32%
A:      848     35.290  36.613  2465    47      1       0       0       16      0       0       (2.206/chip)    33%
B:      848     37.767  36.656  2638    9       2       0       0       16      0       0       (2.360/chip)    34%
C:      848     34.832  35.683  2433    14      0       0       0       16      0       0       (2.177/chip)    33%
D:      848     35.691  36.201  2493    3       0       0       0       16      0       0       (2.231/chip)    33%
E:      848     0.000   0.803   0       7788    0       0       6       16      0       0       (0.000/chip)    11%
F:      848     1.689   4.334   118     557     54      125     105     16      0       0       (0.106/chip)    7%

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