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November 12, 2013, 05:11:03 AM
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I am finding this whole experience with bitfury very annoying. 

Glad to see that I am not alone.

I have only seen the H-cards run for a few minutes before the overheating starts.

I don't want to waste time with adding heatsinks, or fine tuning voltage. I just want these to hash.

I really think that pushing the default config for the h-cards to the bleeding edge of performance was a bad idea.

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November 12, 2013, 05:33:27 AM
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Spent about 12 hours tinkering with it, but I think I finally got mine working... no clue whats gonna happen tomorrow when it warms up tho.

You are luckier than I, enjoy it sir. Cheesy

After spending several hours trying random things suggested all over, I've still had no luck. One rig starts off good at about 450 Gh, but slowly goes down to 250-350 Gh. I have to hit start/stop every 5 minutes to keep it above 400 Gh. I am now switching out H cards in different slots to try and see if I can come up with a card configuration that will run more stable. I read putting bad cards in the last slot of every bank helps.

The other one can't even pull 0 Gh. I'm thinking it's possibly a bad M board, or something is wrong with the firmware. There are others with this problem.. so I'm glad knowing I'm not alone. It sucks having an $8,000 bitcoin mining rig and it can't even do 0.1 Gh. I'm gonna keep messing around with it, but at this point I'm at a loss as to what to do.
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November 12, 2013, 05:35:39 AM
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Spent about 12 hours tinkering with it, but I think I finally got mine working... no clue whats gonna happen tomorrow when it warms up tho.

You are luckier than I, enjoy it sir. Cheesy

After spending several hours trying random things suggested all over, I've still had no luck. One rig starts off good at about 450 Gh, but slowly goes down to 250-350 Gh. I have to hit start/stop every 5 minutes to keep it above 400 Gh.

The other one can't even pull 0 Gh. I'm thinking it's possibly a bad M board, or something is wrong with the firmware. There are others with this problem.. so I'm glad knowing I'm not alone. It sucks having an $8,000 bitcoin mining rig and it can't even do 0.1 Gh. I'm gonna keep messing around with it, but at this point I'm at a loss as to what to do.

Mine did the exact same thing. Your chainminer is probably freezing on startup, i couldn't get it to do a single hash. SSH in and use bfgminer instead, you just won't be able to use the web interface.

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November 12, 2013, 05:37:54 AM
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Thanks for the heads up, I'll give it a try.  Grin
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November 12, 2013, 05:40:15 AM
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I'm done troubleshooting for the evening Sad Shot a "Product Return" email to the MBP folks detailing the issues I've had this evening and hope to get a response about how to proceed.

- Received 32 H-Cards and 2 M-Boards.
- Identified 2 H-Cards as DOA
- M-Board that I thought was DOA I got hashing after further troubleshooting
- Consistent behavior with slots 2 and 3 across both M-Boards throttling down towards 0 (with slots 6 and 8 following shortly after)
- As per the Mining Support thread, I created a best.cnf with aIfDSo 53 set for all 256 entries -- No difference. Boards eventually throttle to 0 and never recover

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November 12, 2013, 05:45:00 AM
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After spending several hours trying random things suggested all over, I've still had no luck. One rig starts off good at about 450 Gh, but slowly goes down to 250-350 Gh. I have to hit start/stop every 5 minutes to keep it above 400 Gh. I am now switching out H cards in different slots to try and see if I can come up with a card configuration that will run more stable. I read putting bad cards in the last slot of every bank helps.

 Ditto here; seeing the exact same thing Sad Have to keep restarting it every 5 minutes to maintain hash-rate. I tried swapping all sorts of combos of H-Cards in different slots with no discernible effect.

 I feel your pain, bro.
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November 12, 2013, 05:50:46 AM
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Guys....you need to use a tiny screwdriver and tune down the voltage a bit...also its looking like we need to keep the cards still so I will likely be taking my fans off the top of my cards too if I can.  From what others are saying... I think this will help guys...Would you have wanted the cards to be perfect....7 days from now?  Because it seems like there would be more waiting.  Not here to take MBP's side per say...but putting in one night of work and calling it Bad is sortof shortsighted...I waited at least a few days (contacted MBP for help, did tuning one by one, and I did apply heatsinks as I knew that if it had worked perfectly out the box I wouldve put in the same time to have it hashing high like 600+.  Just try more stuff and report failure after trying our suggestions before coming back on here upset.  

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November 12, 2013, 05:57:38 AM
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but putting in one night of work and calling it Bad is sortof shortsighted...

 To be absolutely clear, I'm not calling anything bad. Just a bit surprised that we seem to collectively be having some trouble getting these v3 rigs humming along, stably.

 Eagerly awaiting updates and info on how to get our babies nice and happy.
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November 12, 2013, 06:00:52 AM
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but putting in one night of work and calling it Bad is sortof shortsighted...

 To be absolutely clear, I'm not calling anything bad. Just a bit surprised that we seem to collectively be having some trouble getting these v3 rigs humming along, stably.

 Eagerly awaiting updates and info on how to get our babies nice and happy.

I wont lie...I was really pissed off the 1st night I got it because it just kept shutting down...and I was under the presumption that my 700W psu wasnt enough because it kept powering off.  But after it was working and when i saw it reach 640 for a brief moment on this same psu and not shut down...it gave me that boost in morale to "keep calm and carry on" 

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November 12, 2013, 06:28:22 AM
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Anyone here have any V1.2 h-cards they'd be willing to sell? (ie the ones that work with v2.3 m-boards NOT the new PCI connector style m-boards).


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November 12, 2013, 06:29:49 AM
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But after it was working and when i saw it reach 640 for a brief moment on this same psu and not shut down...it gave me that boost in morale to "keep calm and carry on" 

was this 640 from the pool or in Chainminer?

i'm consistently getting higher readings from the pool.
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November 12, 2013, 06:32:54 AM
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Anyone here have any V1.2 h-cards they'd be willing to sell? (ie the ones that work with v2.3 m-boards NOT the new PCI connector style m-boards).



+1 looking for them as well
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November 12, 2013, 07:01:49 AM
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But after it was working and when i saw it reach 640 for a brief moment on this same psu and not shut down...it gave me that boost in morale to "keep calm and carry on" 

was this 640 from the pool or in Chainminer?

i'm consistently getting higher readings from the pool.

Chainminer - Didn't stay high long enough to be observed from the pool  Sad

Decided to lock in my case (using v2 spotswood case for this)  Its a bitch dealing with taking the cards out and tuning them, but it seems necessary to keep the cards still in case airflow from the fans causes a slight wobble which causes the boards to cut out. 

Say...when the card cuts out like this...is that the equivalent to "NO HOTSWAPPING!"?  It would seem that the cut off board would either surge the voltage across the other boards or cause the entire bank to fail. 

I also fried my 1st raspberry pi trying to make my own 2in gpio cable so that the pi wouldnt be hanging off the edge.  The pi wasnt totally dead, but it was acting like the card image got corrupted - turns on with red pwr light only but that's it.  Is this Pi done for?

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November 12, 2013, 07:29:00 AM
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I also had problems with my BFSB old style M-board/H-boards, maybe this will help: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=250249.msg3454967#msg3454967

It could be that your M-board has issues.
I bought an extra M-board and am now using it too.
None of my M-boards is filled with 16 H-boards.

H-boards that didn't went over 25GH/s got the pencil mod applied and are now doing better.
I have fans laying on top of the H-boards, blowing down. The fans keep the boards from wiggling.

Good luck.

I am selling in stock OneStringMiner boards, based on the Bitfury chips. Have a look here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=495536.0
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November 12, 2013, 08:42:36 AM
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Here is my setup.  The clear tape creates a tension bridge so the box fan does not vibrate the h-cards as much.

Vibration of the h-cards causes a tremendous hash rate drop.  




and



Thanks to Goxed my 5, h-cards hash rate is 180.5GH/s
*EDIT now 181.534 GH/S



Bank 1   1: 34.002GH/s 2: 34.503GH/s 3: 0GH/s 4: 0GH/s Bank 2 5: 37.939GH/s 6: 0GH/s 7: 0GH/s 8: 0GH/s
Bank 3 9: 36.436GH/s 10: 0GH/s 11: 0GH/s 12: 0GH/s Bank 4 13: 37.653GH/s 14: 0GH/s 15: 0GH/s 16: 0GH/s


Cards #13 and #9 are the only cards fully populated with copper heatsinks.
I have managed to get one card to run 43-44gh/s for days straight, however that card is hot as hell when I clock it so high.
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November 12, 2013, 08:57:51 AM
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I also had problems with my BFSB old style M-board/H-boards, maybe this will help: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=250249.msg3454967#msg3454967

It could be that your M-board has issues.
I bought an extra M-board and am now using it too.
None of my M-boards is filled with 16 H-boards.

H-boards that didn't went over 25GH/s got the pencil mod applied and are now doing better.
I have fans laying on top of the H-boards, blowing down. The fans keep the boards from wiggling.

Good luck.
It was impossible for me to run more than 13 H-boards on a old style v1 M-board. The 14th board will always report zero hash rates.
 I think it's an issue with the SPI clock signal. That is why new H-boards have 4 SPI channels.
 
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121                 chipspis[i]=int(1000000.0/(100.0+31.0*(i+1)))*1000;}


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November 12, 2013, 09:42:24 AM
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I also had problems with my BFSB old style M-board/H-boards, maybe this will help: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=250249.msg3454967#msg3454967

It could be that your M-board has issues.
I bought an extra M-board and am now using it too.
None of my M-boards is filled with 16 H-boards.

H-boards that didn't went over 25GH/s got the pencil mod applied and are now doing better.
I have fans laying on top of the H-boards, blowing down. The fans keep the boards from wiggling.

Good luck.
It was impossible for me to run more than 13 H-boards on a old style v1 M-board. The 14th board will always report zero hash rates.
 I think it's an issue with the SPI clock signal. That is why new H-boards have 4 SPI channels.
 
check line 121 of spidevc.cpp
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121                 chipspis[i]=int(1000000.0/(100.0+31.0*(i+1)))*1000;}


To prevent confusion, the BFSB Euro M-boards had 4 SPI channels from the start, hence the possibility to test 4 H-boards in one go as described in my linked message.

I am selling in stock OneStringMiner boards, based on the Bitfury chips. Have a look here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=495536.0
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November 12, 2013, 11:55:45 AM
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so my miner stopped overnight inexplicably (charts indicate it unning stable between 76-79GH (2 cards) for 36hrs) and I rebooted it and charts indicate that caused it to work for about a minute or 2 then stop again.

using SSH command /opt/bitfury/start-miner.sh, i get:

cp: cannot create regular file `/run/shm/stat.json': Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file `/run/shm/.chip.cnf': Permission denied

Is this an SD issue or something else?

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November 12, 2013, 01:23:09 PM
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It was impossible for me to run more than 13 H-boards on a old style v1 M-board. The 14th board will always report zero hash rates.
 I think it's an issue with the SPI clock signal. That is why new H-boards have 4 SPI channels.

Consider checking to see if a better PSU gives you better results.  I had this problem and swapped a 1kW Tuniq PSU for a 1.2kW CoolerMaster.  They key is how much amperage you can push over the PCI-E power rails, not just the total wattage of the PSU.
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Last edit: November 12, 2013, 02:07:30 PM by CoinHoarder
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Hrm. This is not exactly how I envisioned this going. This is very frustrating.. my Avalons and KNCminers I was able to setup and get hashing within minutes. Add the assembly time of a full rig, plus the fact they're both not working....

I got two full rigs today. One is running at 225 Gh and the other is running at 0 Gh.

Code:
Rig 1:
Bank 1
1: 33.415GH/s
2: 33.443GH/s
3: 20.702GH/s
4: 21.79GH/s
Bank 2
5: 4.223GH/s
6: 0GH/s
7: 0GH/s
8: 0GH/s
Bank 3
9: 15.677GH/s
10: 10.107GH/s
11: 11.167GH/s
12: 13.758GH/s
Bank 4
13: 9.621GH/s
14: 9.893GH/s
15: 10.165GH/s
16: 20.916GH/s

Rig 2:
Bank 1
1: 0GH/s
2: 0GH/s
3: 0GH/s
4: 0GH/s
Bank 2
5: 0GH/s
6: 0GH/s
7: 0GH/s
8: 0GH/s
Bank 3
9: 0GH/s
10: 0GH/s
11: 0GH/s
12: 0GH/s
Bank 4
13: 0GH/s
14: 0GH/s
15: 0GH/s
16: 0GH/s

I'm certain everything is hooked up correctly. I have checked several times. I tried replacing the PSU and that didn't do anything. I am using a 1200w to run both full rigs. I'm sorry if this is covered... (I'm going to go back and read through this thread now.) Any quick suggestions though? This thread is so long..

I'm not sure if this matters, but it seems the two rigs might have different firmware versions. One says this on the main admin screen the other does not: "Attention! Please set pool difficulty on your pool to 32-512 depending on your hashrate. Low difficulty setting will result in work queue overload, and drop your hashrate substantially. If running a full unit, please make sure all cards are installed in slots written on the back side of the card. Due to SPI bugs, the miner may need to be stopped and restarted using the buttons above."

How I fixed my problems (two rigs stable 473 Gh and 517 Gh- with 1 dead h board on the slower one):

(I don't take credit for these fixes, some of them I found out on my own and some of them I read from other user's experiences.)

I needed to find a way to keep the cards stable, they come with crappy 1x PCI connectors and are really wobbly, especially when being blasted by fans (which is necc. to keep them cool and stable). The movement in the cards was causing the rig to slow down slowly over time until the affected cards eventually ended up at 0 Gh. To fix this I used two rows of electrical tape along the top of the cards to hold them in place better.

Cooling may or may not have been an issue. I added an extra box fan in front (two box fans now) and also two computer fans blowing air down on top of them for added air flow.

I was under the impression that two full rigs would run on one 1200 watt power supply. It turns out that seemed to be overloading the PSU (a nice gold rated ASUS). I ended up using a separate PSU for each rig and that got them both mining. I think this is the main reason why the one was getting 0 Gh and wouldn't mine. As soon as I put it on its own PSU it started working fine.

I put slower H cards in the last slot of each bank to keep them from interfering with other H cards. If you have one bank that is not working but all the rest are, this is likely the issue. If the card in the first slot of each bank is not seated properly, the rest of the bank will not work.

I hope this helps someone and saves them the 16 hours of their life that I just wasted. Now... I wish I would of realized all this before spending all night messing with firmwares... flashing sdcards... installing a different OS... trying BFGminer... trying cgminer... etc. :rolleyes:

My phone messed up while uploading, but a couple pics: http://imgur.com/a/9vDAm#apBFVy5
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