[ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First

[nkryuchkov]

I'm curious what the devs think about other health industry related ICOs going on right now. It's a popular field.

I do not think he should be in trouble with other ICOs related to the health industry! I think they should only see their project and make it better than the others. From my point of view it is one of the future.
But they can also give us a response on this.

Hi,
Yep, there are some potential competitors, but considering it, we were developing the concept and business plan.
It's really huge topic, so pls see the WP Section 4 and especially 4.2 for the details.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1J1B_jZbFsj46lASErz3JQC7uMD9JvlhO/view
Thank you and all the BT thread participants for the interest and good questions!

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[nkryuchkov]

Hi everyone!
There are some news about promised videoclips about the EHF.
They are coming soon.
We expect to start publishing new videos on YouTube and Facebook within 5 days.
Good luck!

[nkryuchkov]

I'm curious what the devs think about other health industry related ICOs going on right now. It's a popular field.

I do not think he should be in trouble with other ICOs related to the health industry! I think they should only see their project and make it better than the others. From my point of view it is one of the future.
But they can also give us a response on this.

I think they should focus on their project being successful, because if the idea works they will not have to worry about the competition.

Correct.  In the long run, a good project quality will gain a very supportive community and investors and its needs serious DEV commitment to do that.

Those who are interested in EHealth really need to understand the importance of the project and how great it will be after its Ico, and be aware that it should join in relying on the long term for the return that we know will not be short. I hope to make a lot of money and support them until the next stages

Yeah and this project is much way better than investing in a retirement plan where we could reap its benefits like 10 years after. Also, the project has a longer developmental phase which very understandable considering the complexity of varying technologies that will be integrated with it.

Yes, we will do our best for that.
Thank you!

[saintkamei]

I have heard people call this project a scam because of its lengthy timeline. Now, with the whitepaper, people are complaining about it too. Some calling it whitebook for the number of pages. I get that most people here are for the short term get rich quick investment. If you are, just admit it and pass this project over to those who really believe in solid business (and there are too few of them here in cryptospace). I am excited about this project. Perhaps, this project could outlive the bubble itself.

[jonnytracker]

I'm curious what the devs think about other health industry related ICOs going on right now. It's a popular field.

If a project is really good, other ICOS will follow or copy. This is normal and competition is something which they can handle.

Not necessarily blockchain specific, but in the white paper, there is a summary of its competitors eg Google Health

Google isn't the only one. It's not far from seeing new big companies starts similar project with big funding and eat up the smaller campaigns

[BY_ATOM]

I read a onepager in one of the upcoming ICOs, now i know we have a 300 paged whitepaper, brochures and presentations in ehealth, maybe a summerized whitepaper should be good for everyone:) 300 page is a lot for some of us.

Btw. I am ok with 5 eth. minimum cap on the private sale phase. Devs want to attract bigger investors so 5 eth is quite normal i think.

Actually, it is more than normal. I saw 80-100 eth minimum for even pre-sale.

So for private sale 5 eth minimum is not a high number even it is a very low number.

By the way, i think brochure can be used as a summary of the whitepaper.

but a project with a aim of 2025, i think big investors won't invest 80 or 100 eth for a idea.
I was thinking about a 30 paged whitepaper, brochure seemed shallow to me.

You are right maybe it would have been better for them to built an alpha of the platform in advance. This would create a lot more confidence.

You must understand that for the platform of such a plan, haste is a direct path into the abyss of failure. The platform should be configured to the smallest parts, otherwise it will result in the collapse.

[nkryuchkov]

I read a onepager in one of the upcoming ICOs, now i know we have a 300 paged whitepaper, brochures and presentations in ehealth, maybe a summerized whitepaper should be good for everyone:) 300 page is a lot for some of us.

Btw. I am ok with 5 eth. minimum cap on the private sale phase. Devs want to attract bigger investors so 5 eth is quite normal i think.

Actually, it is more than normal. I saw 80-100 eth minimum for even pre-sale.

So for private sale 5 eth minimum is not a high number even it is a very low number.

By the way, i think brochure can be used as a summary of the whitepaper.

but a project with a aim of 2025, i think big investors won't invest 80 or 100 eth for a idea.
I was thinking about a 30 paged whitepaper, brochure seemed shallow to me.

You are right maybe it would have been better for them to built an alpha of the platform in advance. This would create a lot more confidence.

You must understand that for the platform of such a plan, haste is a direct path into the abyss of failure. The platform should be configured to the smallest parts, otherwise it will result in the collapse.

Hi,
Completely agree.
Just a little remark.
EHF expects to start sales after 2 years from the Project launch. First Alpha (MVP) will be ready within about 1.5 years.
As we are talking about 2025 horizon, we mean the full-featured platform 
Also the Project has good financial indicators (NPV, IRR, net cash flow etc.).
Pls see the White Paper for the details here http://www.ehfirst.io/#wp.
Thank you! 👍

[jonnytracker]

I read a onepager in one of the upcoming ICOs, now i know we have a 300 paged whitepaper, brochures and presentations in ehealth, maybe a summerized whitepaper should be good for everyone:) 300 page is a lot for some of us.

Btw. I am ok with 5 eth. minimum cap on the private sale phase. Devs want to attract bigger investors so 5 eth is quite normal i think.

Actually, it is more than normal. I saw 80-100 eth minimum for even pre-sale.

So for private sale 5 eth minimum is not a high number even it is a very low number.

By the way, i think brochure can be used as a summary of the whitepaper.

but a project with a aim of 2025, i think big investors won't invest 80 or 100 eth for a idea.
I was thinking about a 30 paged whitepaper, brochure seemed shallow to me.

You are right maybe it would have been better for them to built an alpha of the platform in advance. This would create a lot more confidence.

You must understand that for the platform of such a plan, haste is a direct path into the abyss of failure. The platform should be configured to the smallest parts, otherwise it will result in the collapse.

what do you mean by haste, I assume when you say smallest parts, tech details in whitepaper ?

[Piggy]

I read a onepager in one of the upcoming ICOs, now i know we have a 300 paged whitepaper, brochures and presentations in ehealth, maybe a summerized whitepaper should be good for everyone:) 300 page is a lot for some of us.

Btw. I am ok with 5 eth. minimum cap on the private sale phase. Devs want to attract bigger investors so 5 eth is quite normal i think.

Actually, it is more than normal. I saw 80-100 eth minimum for even pre-sale.

So for private sale 5 eth minimum is not a high number even it is a very low number.

By the way, i think brochure can be used as a summary of the whitepaper.

but a project with a aim of 2025, i think big investors won't invest 80 or 100 eth for a idea.
I was thinking about a 30 paged whitepaper, brochure seemed shallow to me.

You are right maybe it would have been better for them to built an alpha of the platform in advance. This would create a lot more confidence.

You must understand that for the platform of such a plan, haste is a direct path into the abyss of failure. The platform should be configured to the smallest parts, otherwise it will result in the collapse.

Hi,
Completely agree.
Just a little remark.
EHF expects to start sales after 2 years from the Project launch. First Alpha (MVP) will be ready within about 1.5 years.
As we are talking about 2025 horizon, we mean the full-featured platform 
Also the Project has good financial indicators (NPV, IRR, net cash flow etc.).
Pls see the White Paper for the details here http://www.ehfirst.io/#wp.
Thank you! 👍

That is an interesting point, 1.5 years are not that much. Need to check back in the wp.

[the_lovely]

My question however is, why would i trust the "second opinion" of an online professional over that of a doctor WHO ACTUALLY EXAMINED ME in person?

[niklasmato]

My question however is, why would i trust the "second opinion" of an online professional over that of a doctor WHO ACTUALLY EXAMINED ME in person?

I guess that due to all the data that will be stored in the platform and the AI, it might be able to give you a more correct diagnosis then a doctor.
But to be sure I would always ask for a second opinion.

[alphashotgun]

My question however is, why would i trust the "second opinion" of an online professional over that of a doctor WHO ACTUALLY EXAMINED ME in person?

I guess that due to all the data that will be stored in the platform and the AI, it might be able to give you a more correct diagnosis then a doctor.
But to be sure I would always ask for a second opinion.

imo this will take some time until people accept the fact that AI is more intelligent than a human being

[Je.hitler]

My question however is, why would i trust the "second opinion" of an online professional over that of a doctor WHO ACTUALLY EXAMINED ME in person?

I guess that due to all the data that will be stored in the platform and the AI, it might be able to give you a more correct diagnosis then a doctor.
But to be sure I would always ask for a second opinion.

imo this will take some time until people accept the fact that AI is more intelligent than a human being

But you will not be forced to trust the platform, u can use them in parallel or the doctor will benefit from it as the platform will provide him better understanding how can provide you the proper cure with better results.

[the_donald]

My question however is, why would i trust the "second opinion" of an online professional over that of a doctor WHO ACTUALLY EXAMINED ME in person?

I guess that due to all the data that will be stored in the platform and the AI, it might be able to give you a more correct diagnosis then a doctor.
But to be sure I would always ask for a second opinion.

imo this will take some time until people accept the fact that AI is more intelligent than a human being

But you will not be forced to trust the platform, u can use them in parallel or the doctor will benefit from it as the platform will provide him better understanding how can provide you the proper cure with better results.

I agree with the above assessment . but in time people will realize that AI will probably do a better job than doctors.

[Piggy]

My question however is, why would i trust the "second opinion" of an online professional over that of a doctor WHO ACTUALLY EXAMINED ME in person?

Doctors don't have the time to learn all the latest thing happening in the health sector. So it's reasonable to check with another doctor. The off course depend on the matter.

[king_of_alts]

My question however is, why would i trust the "second opinion" of an online professional over that of a doctor WHO ACTUALLY EXAMINED ME in person?

Doctors don't have the time to learn all the latest thing happening in the health sector. So it's reasonable to check with another doctor. The off course depend on the matter.

Doctors also often go with what is the most likely cause for your symptoms. That's not bad in general because statistics don't lie but there might be cases where a doctor overlooks something. You could then ask him about what eHealth says.

[wissy]

My question however is, why would i trust the "second opinion" of an online professional over that of a doctor WHO ACTUALLY EXAMINED ME in person?

Doctors don't have the time to learn all the latest thing happening in the health sector. So it's reasonable to check with another doctor. The off course depend on the matter.

Doctors also often go with what is the most likely cause for your symptoms. That's not bad in general because statistics don't lie but there might be cases where a doctor overlooks something. You could then ask him about what eHealth says.

The more professionals you consult with, the better idea about your own health you have. Plus, eHealth platform will enable you to store your health information, so whichever doctor you consult online will see a lot of information about your previous health issues.

[batako]

My question however is, why would i trust the "second opinion" of an online professional over that of a doctor WHO ACTUALLY EXAMINED ME in person?

I guess that due to all the data that will be stored in the platform and the AI, it might be able to give you a more correct diagnosis then a doctor.
But to be sure I would always ask for a second opinion.

imo this will take some time until people accept the fact that AI is more intelligent than a human being

But you will not be forced to trust the platform, u can use them in parallel or the doctor will benefit from it as the platform will provide him better understanding how can provide you the proper cure with better results.

I agree with the above assessment . but in time people will realize that AI will probably do a better job than doctors.

Doctors are our main reference in the world of health.  Ehealth platform will exist as an alternative for us because the cost of the hospital always goes up. Here in my area, there are some health alternatives as well as hospitals, and most of it gets a pretty good response from the community.

[Frickeladm]

My question however is, why would i trust the "second opinion" of an online professional over that of a doctor WHO ACTUALLY EXAMINED ME in person?

I guess that due to all the data that will be stored in the platform and the AI, it might be able to give you a more correct diagnosis then a doctor.
But to be sure I would always ask for a second opinion.

imo this will take some time until people accept the fact that AI is more intelligent than a human being

But you will not be forced to trust the platform, u can use them in parallel or the doctor will benefit from it as the platform will provide him better understanding how can provide you the proper cure with better results.

I agree with the above assessment . but in time people will realize that AI will probably do a better job than doctors.

Doctors are our main reference in the world of health.  Ehealth platform will exist as an alternative for us because the cost of the hospital always goes up. Here in my area, there are some health alternatives as well as hospitals, and most of it gets a pretty good response from the community.

What do you mean exactly with aternatives for doctors? Some kind of public clinic? I think its important to have a professional looking after what you have rather than just trust an AI based system

[cevap]

My question however is, why would i trust the "second opinion" of an online professional over that of a doctor WHO ACTUALLY EXAMINED ME in person?

I guess that due to all the data that will be stored in the platform and the AI, it might be able to give you a more correct diagnosis then a doctor.
But to be sure I would always ask for a second opinion.

imo this will take some time until people accept the fact that AI is more intelligent than a human being

But you will not be forced to trust the platform, u can use them in parallel or the doctor will benefit from it as the platform will provide him better understanding how can provide you the proper cure with better results.

I agree with the above assessment . but in time people will realize that AI will probably do a better job than doctors.

Doctors are our main reference in the world of health.  Ehealth platform will exist as an alternative for us because the cost of the hospital always goes up. Here in my area, there are some health alternatives as well as hospitals, and most of it gets a pretty good response from the community.

What do you mean exactly with aternatives for doctors? Some kind of public clinic? I think its important to have a professional looking after what you have rather than just trust an AI based system

AI based system can work as an addition to already established healthcare system. It could be the first step to spreading AI technology to the healthcare area.