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January 06, 2014, 05:28:25 PM |
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This address is a bit suspect for me, each time visit middlecoins www he have more Mh ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think that only using at least 400-450 units of HD 7990 you can reach that hashing power. He is for sure working in the factory and each day after work he takes one with him through the backdoor ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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January 06, 2014, 05:32:44 PM |
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This address is a bit suspect for me, each time visit middlecoins www he have more Mh ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think that only using at least 400-450 units of HD 7990 you can reach that hashing power. He is for sure working in the factory and each day after work he takes one with him through the backdoor ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) 500 MH/s is equal to 660 R9 280x's at 750k each.
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January 06, 2014, 05:34:56 PM |
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Must be a botnet...
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January 06, 2014, 05:35:18 PM |
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This address is a bit suspect for me, each time visit middlecoins www he have more Mh ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think that only using at least 400-450 units of HD 7990 you can reach that hashing power. He is for sure working in the factory and each day after work he takes one with him through the backdoor ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) 500 MH/s is equal to 660 R9 280x's at 750k each. I wonder what the most amount of hashrate ever achieved with a mining Trojan is so far...
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January 06, 2014, 05:35:43 PM |
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He is for sure working in the factory and each day after work he takes one with him through the backdoor ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Or the ppl didnt know that the hash for him ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) )
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envy2010
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January 06, 2014, 05:39:26 PM |
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This address is a bit suspect for me, each time visit middlecoins www he have more Mh ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think that only using at least 400-450 units of HD 7990 you can reach that hashing power. He is for sure working in the factory and each day after work he takes one with him through the backdoor ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) 500 MH/s is equal to 660 R9 280x's at 750k each. I wonder what the most amount of hashrate ever achieved with a mining Trojan is so far... 500 MH/s is about 8,300 quad-core i7's if you are assuming a CPUminer botnet. For a random distribution of CPUs you would probably need 20,000 of more to hash that fast...
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Kluge
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January 06, 2014, 05:50:03 PM |
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This address is a bit suspect for me, each time visit middlecoins www he have more Mh ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think that only using at least 400-450 units of HD 7990 you can reach that hashing power. He is for sure working in the factory and each day after work he takes one with him through the backdoor ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) 500 MH/s is equal to 660 R9 280x's at 750k each. I wonder what the most amount of hashrate ever achieved with a mining Trojan is so far... 500 MH/s is about 8,300 quad-core i7's if you are assuming a CPUminer botnet. For a random distribution of CPUs you would probably need 20,000 of more to hash that fast... That'd ruin one of the greatest benefits of malware targeting GPUs: in almost every OS's default task manager, it does not display GPU activity. With reasonable intensity settings (which Scrypt mining requires on most cards to prevent HW errors, anyway), it would be almost impossible to detect, especially considering how many people stuff desktop PCs into little desk compartments (minimizes noise, but would help prevent them noticing the high heat and noise from GPU fan going @ 100%). What'd indicate a botnet is a steady hashrate cycle, where at some times, very regularly, hashrate dips and peaks, which is the expression of people turning their PCs off when they're at work or sleeping.
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January 06, 2014, 05:54:25 PM |
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This address is a bit suspect for me, each time visit middlecoins www he have more Mh ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think that only using at least 400-450 units of HD 7990 you can reach that hashing power. He is for sure working in the factory and each day after work he takes one with him through the backdoor ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) 500 MH/s is equal to 660 R9 280x's at 750k each. I wonder what the most amount of hashrate ever achieved with a mining Trojan is so far... 500 MH/s is about 8,300 quad-core i7's if you are assuming a CPUminer botnet. For a random distribution of CPUs you would probably need 20,000 of more to hash that fast... really strange graphic.. hashing power increases constantly ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fdoc-0c-b8-docs.googleusercontent.com%2Fdocs%2Fsecuresc%2Fha0ro937gcuc7l7deffksulhg5h7mbp1%2Fl5krckjo2gjk98p08qob1256911dl4cu%2F1389024000000%2F14083088225320517256%2F%2A%2F0B6a17Qe3LReUR3daSlEwRVJ0X28%3Fh%3D16653014193614665626%26e%3Ddownload&t=665&c=Ijmk-UH1tyLPeg)
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January 06, 2014, 05:59:58 PM |
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To all those worried about mining litecoin (or whatever coin) not being the most profitable, there is something you don't realize. Sometimes the path you take to trading coins ends up drastically different for the final result than you might realize. There are times when, rather than taking "the most profitable coin" to market and simply dumping it for bitcoin in a straight trade, a different path is the better way to do it. There are many times that is best thing to do. Sometimes converting from doge to litecoin to cat to doge to nmc to cat to ppc to bitcoin gets you well more bitcoin in the end. It just takes more work (and sometimes not that much more work). That is why having a diverse portfolio of things to trade with can be helpful while actually day trading on a minute-by-minute basis. If you only have a couple of tools in the bag, you won't get the job done as well as it can be done once you see those patterns. The hard part is seeing those patterns. My above example is me just blurting things out for the sake of example, so please don't drive yourselves crazy trying that conversion pattern yourselves, specifically. That example wasn't advice, however if it happens to be a good pattern, feel free to send me some coins for the unknowingly good advice!!! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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January 06, 2014, 06:00:45 PM |
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Middlecoin.com vs Multipool.usI did a split test over 1 week to find out which was the most profitable pool. I pointed 1.800 Khash on each pool (100% identical hardware) and started them at the same time. (a test should be done over a few months, but I wanted max profit now, so I only did 1 week) On middlecoin.com it's very easy and simple, and no setup is required at all. However there is less control and much less information available.On multipool.us I set up an account on Cryptsy and set every alt coin to auto payout to cryptsy. Then I set cryptsy to auto exchange every alt coin to bitcoin as soon as they came in, so this should give more
Middlecoin.com
7 days of mining with 1800 Khash
Paid out: 0.11560480 Remaining balance: 0.00032817 Unexchanged: 0.0096669 Immature: 0.00451747 Total: 0.13011944 (of which 0.01451465 have not yet been paid when I made this post, and also it may not all be paid depending on immature/unexchanged behavior)
Link 1: http://middlecoin2.s3-website-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/reports/134DF3buwjU9LJLaucYBN1XbDwTDHdESAJ.html Link 2: http://blockchain.info/address/134DF3buwjU9LJLaucYBN1XbDwTDHdESAJ
Multipool.us
7 days of mining with 1800 Khash
Paid out: 0.09583497 Remaining balance: 0 Unexchanged: 0,0010403 Immature: 0 Total: 0.09687517 (of which 0.0096669 is stuck in minor bit's of alt coin that cryptsy won't exchange before there is 1.0 of that alt coin)
Note: Keep in mind that cryptsy have a 0.00050000 BTC fee for bitcoin withdrawl, regardless of how little/much you take it. So if you wan't to take out BTC to your wallet every day, this would come to allot. If you feel safe holding lots of bitcoins in an altcoin exchange, that's less of an issue. (I personally don't like holding bitcoins in altcoin exchanges as they are highly vulnerable to 51% alt coin attacks as far as I understand it)
Link: I have no link for this, since money held in an exchange, does not have a public address. (or any unique address at all)
In conclusion, I pointed all my miners on middlecoin.com after this test.
Thanks for sharing your hard work. Now if I hear one more time that H2O integrity in question, I will lose it ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) He is making profit because he work his tail off when other pools are either down,hacked or otherwise plane unprofitable in comparison. So nock it off people. His entire testing is useless and flawed. You have to put the SAME HASH RATE on both servers at the SAME TIME. Otherwise results can vary greatly. I've gotten 7 people PMing me so far that agree with me that H2O is stealing coins. By you guys not questioning him and agreeing with him, you're just proving to him that its OK to steal and get away with it. If you COULD READ I would tell you to READ the FIRST SENTENCE koldtoft wrote... oh well... ignore it is...
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January 06, 2014, 06:04:23 PM |
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His entire testing is useless and flawed. You have to put the SAME HASH RATE on both servers at the SAME TIME. Otherwise results can vary greatly.
I've gotten 7 people PMing me so far that agree with me that H2O is stealing coins.
By you guys not questioning him and agreeing with him, you're just proving to him that its OK to steal and get away with it.
Sigh, I think a lot of people can make their own judgement. If we wish to be "stolen" from and we like it that way, lets us mine here. If you do not wish to be "stolen" from, please go. I don't mind H2O taking a few more % for him as it is still easier for me to have him do all the work in terms of managing this pool and doing all the exchanges and just paying me in BTC. I don't have the will power and energy and sometimes time to do it myself and other people may be in the same boat as me.
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January 06, 2014, 06:06:23 PM |
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By you guys not questioning him and agreeing with him, you're just proving to him that its OK to steal and get away with it.
that's exactly why we're asking questions about you. e.g. what is your real account? did have you settled your debt with eroxors, or was it just a scam? Your entire posting activity on this site is to accuse H2o of scamming.
and you have not responded to your own scam report. I never heard back from you after I paid for a video card. Card never came. You didn't log back in or respond. I auctioned the debt to someone else on the Forums, you still owe them a half bitcoin. In my book, you're a scammer. Mods thought that your account was a shill account.
Please PM me if you are interested in resolving this issue, I can connect you with the owner of this debt.
Thanks.
until you can reconcile this outstanding debt, you have zero credibility here.
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DC2ngEGbd1ZUKyj8aSzrP1W5TXs5WmPuiR wow need noms
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January 06, 2014, 06:10:03 PM |
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Seeing a 6% reject rate guys...what could be the reason I have no hw errors! Have left 100kb open for the mining pc itself and yet this. I don't know whats happening. I use eu server and cgminer 3.7.2 linux with a 7950. Could it be the intensity at 20?
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January 06, 2014, 06:18:03 PM |
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Seeing a 6% reject rate guys...what could be the reason I have no hw errors! Have left 100kb open for the mining pc itself and yet this. I don't know whats happening. I use eu server and cgminer 3.7.2 linux with a 7950. Could it be the intensity at 20?
Could it be because of some alt-coins and their shitty design with low block rates?
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January 06, 2014, 06:21:52 PM |
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His entire testing is useless and flawed. You have to put the SAME HASH RATE on both servers at the SAME TIME. Otherwise results can vary greatly.
I've gotten 7 people PMing me so far that agree with me that H2O is stealing coins.
By you guys not questioning him and agreeing with him, you're just proving to him that its OK to steal and get away with it.
Honestly, you're annoying as shit, but what does bother me is that h2o doesn't answer what I'm questioning. I've tried getting explanations from him, but his groupies keep answering even though they don't actually know.
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January 06, 2014, 06:42:48 PM |
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CoinGeek, won't it be more interesting to be "up to the moon" when we reach a certain number of BTC by MH? We were in fact really up to the moon when we were having 100 BTC with 5000MH a month ago, but now, we need the double to make the comparison.
Reaching the moon depends on the scaling of the graph which is set by the highest values in the last week, and that has a correlation to hash rate. It really means matching or exceeding recent highs which isn't a sure thing on a given day because of the way the pool works. It's still worth cheering for, but going to the moon isn't as hard in 2014 as it once was ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) BTW, someone dropped an anonymous tip in my wallet in the last few days. Thank you!
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January 06, 2014, 06:49:06 PM |
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it's simple
if you believe you'll get better results with some other mining scheme, use it if you find the performance acceptable, point hashes at middlecoin and mine away
bickering on a forum about shit that cannot be proven--and has zero influence on results--is useless noise
if h2o's motivation to work on the pool hasn't been eaten away by you fucking retards, it surely will be
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January 06, 2014, 07:05:56 PM |
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Seeing a 6% reject rate guys...what could be the reason I have no hw errors! Have left 100kb open for the mining pc itself and yet this. I don't know whats happening. I use eu server and cgminer 3.7.2 linux with a 7950. Could it be the intensity at 20?
A couple pages back H2O acknowledge the USA server has a bug that is causing lower hash rate, when I asked him when it will be fixed, he replied that he has no idea.
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January 06, 2014, 07:15:51 PM |
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Seeing a 6% reject rate guys...what could be the reason I have no hw errors! Have left 100kb open for the mining pc itself and yet this. I don't know whats happening. I use eu server and cgminer 3.7.2 linux with a 7950. Could it be the intensity at 20?
A couple pages back H2O acknowledge the USA server has a bug that is causing lower hash rate, when I asked him when it will be fixed, he replied that he has no idea. THIS JUST IN: h2odysee cannot read into the future! BREAKING NEWS!
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January 06, 2014, 07:17:48 PM |
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His entire testing is useless and flawed. You have to put the SAME HASH RATE on both servers at the SAME TIME. Otherwise results can vary greatly.
I've gotten 7 people PMing me so far that agree with me that H2O is stealing coins.
By you guys not questioning him and agreeing with him, you're just proving to him that its OK to steal and get away with it.
I DID put the same hash rate on both servers at the same time. Reading is hard.
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