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Author Topic: PhoenixMiner 6.2c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux)  (Read 785909 times)
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June 02, 2021, 04:32:20 AM
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So here is a question, which I'm not sure is possible, but wanted to throw it out there.   
Doing ETC Party mining on zergpool, which passes its arguments through the -p field. 
What we're trying to figure out is, can we somehow also dual mine ZIL, which usually also passes its arguments through the -p field. 
So far I haven't had any luck trying to separate the two, any ideas would be appreciated!
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June 02, 2021, 07:15:22 AM
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The scammers are getting more sophisticated. They've apparently found a way to quickly cross 100 activity/posts to make posting restrictions even harder.
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June 03, 2021, 11:42:08 AM
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Antivirus has always and forever detected mining software as malware. To an extent, I even suspect that file hosting and git repositories may have removed them because they ran automated malware scans and decided their course of action on that. Mining applications are almost all closed source because the developers implement a fee they benefit from, but also to keep whatever makes theirs good away from competition.

There are always risks associated with running closed source software from anon devs that is also detected as malware. It has always been the case and the most we can do is trust teams with a history of development and community trust. They can also be run without admin rights, sandboxed, or closed in by additional security software that supports HIPS/rules on what it can and cannot change. Furthermore because most of the mining work is done on dedicated rigs, the damage from infection or data theft is low, provided you're smart enough not to keep sensitive info on a rig.

If you're looking for open source software, Excavator is in active development by the NiceHash team. But it currently only supports nVidia cards. In terms of a mining software that can run on both AMD and nVidia cards just as effectively, it's hard to beat PhoenixMiner, although some people use specific miners for specific brands of cards to get an extra 2-3% out of them. Again, most of that software is also closed source and the devs are anonymous.

If the software is to be closed source and is well enough protected from tampering, non-anonymous teams would be putting themselves at risk in terms of blackmail, threats or violence from people who would want to hijack it for nefarious purposes such as malware or secretly mining for them. The more popular the miner, the bigger the target.

The crypto world has always been very fast, very technical and perhaps also owing from its crypto-anarchist credos, very anonymous. This has made it very treacherous for the uninformed. Always follow sensible practices on informing yourself, securing your systems, protecting your wallets and sensitive info, and setting up safeguards just in case. I have folder-wide rules on what applications, registry keys, device APIs and file paths the mining software can use. With multiple applications for multiple algorithms, there's always a chance that at some point something will go wrong. This is both to protect from malicious devs and the possibility of an unknown vulnerability hijacking them. I'm also careful of how and where I store my wallets. You feel much more confident in running something like PhoenixMiner once you know you've done your due diligence.
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June 03, 2021, 04:53:14 PM
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I have a Vega 56 card in my Ampere rig.
It's a good card, with the rig timings I can get 48 MH/s using Team Red Miner.
But I can't get past 43 MH/s using Phoenix Miner.
Is this normal or am I doing something wrong? I tried some settings, but there isn't much I can really do, to my knowledge.
I'm trying to switch my rig to Phoenix Miner (I'm using Trex + TRM right now), but I' don't get why I'm loosing so much on Vega.
Any advice?
Thanks for your help.

yes it looks like faster mem timings are not getting applied if you see 42+ vs 48+

I too am having issues with this currently. i can hit 44 but nothing over. if i use TRM i can get 51. ive set the mem timings myself on each. only reason im using phoenix now is im also using an nvidia card in this rig. might put that in a different rig if this cant get fixed up.
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June 03, 2021, 09:07:50 PM
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I have a Vega 56 card in my Ampere rig.
It's a good card, with the rig timings I can get 48 MH/s using Team Red Miner.
But I can't get past 43 MH/s using Phoenix Miner.
Is this normal or am I doing something wrong? I tried some settings, but there isn't much I can really do, to my knowledge.
I'm trying to switch my rig to Phoenix Miner (I'm using Trex + TRM right now), but I' don't get why I'm loosing so much on Vega.
Any advice?
Thanks for your help.

yes it looks like faster mem timings are not getting applied if you see 42+ vs 48+

I too am having issues with this currently. i can hit 44 but nothing over. if i use TRM i can get 51. ive set the mem timings myself on each. only reason im using phoenix now is im also using an nvidia card in this rig. might put that in a different rig if this cant get fixed up.

It's odd, but I've found that some timings on a Vega 56 work better with TRM and different timings work better with PhoenixMiner.
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June 03, 2021, 11:31:42 PM
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How to determine shares count, accepted/rejectet, via API per GPU?
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June 04, 2021, 01:51:34 AM
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Don't quote the post and contribute in spreading malware.  Use the "report to moderator" link in the lower right hand corner of the offending post.

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June 04, 2021, 12:01:39 PM
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Do you guys experience a hash rate drop?

It seems both Phoenixminer and T-rex miner drop in hash rate compared a month ago.
Can anyone confirm if they also or other people who mine ETH experienced the same thing? I'm just worrying and maybe there is a breach on my OS stealing my hashrate.

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June 04, 2021, 12:26:16 PM
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Don't quote the post and contribute in spreading malware.  Use the "report to moderator" link in the lower right hand corner of the offending post.

There was another overnight!!! I registered to report it, but I'm too new and don't see the report button yet.

It kinda sucks being the best and having to put up with the envious ones.

I had to report all the fakes over on github too.

Before I even came upon this whole story I had reviewed and read about nicehash and something in the stuff I read made me decide to stay clear of them. And it wasn't based on any user reviews..... SO glad I avoided them....
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June 04, 2021, 07:19:05 PM
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There was another overnight!!! I registered to report it, but I'm too new and don't see the report button yet.

That's weird, I wasn't aware of that limitation.  It must only apply to "Brand New" accounts.  I have a newbie account I use on unsecured devices to read the forum, and I'm able to report posts from that account.  Now that you've made a post and upgraded to "newbie," you should be able to use the report link.

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June 05, 2021, 02:57:49 PM
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Just weird but the estimated mining reward drop by at least 50% compared last month. Do you experience the same? Is it correlated to Eth 2.0?
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June 05, 2021, 06:17:34 PM
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Just weird but the estimated mining reward drop by at least 50% compared last month. Do you experience the same? Is it correlated to Eth 2.0?

Increase in difficulty results in less rewards.
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June 05, 2021, 06:55:00 PM
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I have nothing to compare it to since I just started last month.

But I'm having problems even getting over 15MH on my XFX RX-580! I usually run about 9ish.

It's on an old ASUS P6T-SE which is PCIe 2.0 but GPU-Z says 580 can run on a PCIe 3.0.

Could that be why its not working as hard as everyone elses 580s, or has anyone had 20+MH on an old MOBO with this card?

Thanks!
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June 05, 2021, 09:09:33 PM
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Do you guys experience a hash rate drop?

It seems both Phoenixminer and T-rex miner drop in hash rate compared a month ago.
Can anyone confirm if they also or other people who mine ETH experienced the same thing? I'm just worrying and maybe there is a breach on my OS stealing my hashrate.

No hashrate drop in Phoenix miner.My Rx 6800 XT-s are doing the same 59.7 Mhsh with stock settings without me tuning anything.The same goes to all my other cards like Rx 5700 XT and RTX 3060 ti.The strange thing is only with one old card a Gtx 1080 ti,I can't go over 38 Mhsh even following all the different settings learned here or in other places,I guess it is the card itself which doesn't perform anymore as it should because it is too old.



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June 05, 2021, 09:38:34 PM
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5.6d is not showing temps for 6900xt. Previous driver versions show temps. Bug in new version?
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June 05, 2021, 09:58:25 PM
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Just weird but the estimated mining reward drop by at least 50% compared last month. Do you experience the same? Is it correlated to Eth 2.0?

Increase in difficulty results in less rewards.

True, May was the peak with 8.x P hashrate and we manage to mine double digit ETH. June is 7.x P, comparatively less from last month but the estimated earning cutdown to half from last month.
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June 06, 2021, 07:50:06 AM
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Just weird but the estimated mining reward drop by at least 50% compared last month. Do you experience the same? Is it correlated to Eth 2.0?

Increase in difficulty results in less rewards.

True, May was the peak with 8.x P hashrate and we manage to mine double digit ETH. June is 7.x P, comparatively less from last month but the estimated earning cutdown to half from last month.

not true. the reward is down due to low tx fees
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June 06, 2021, 09:14:32 AM
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After download, the antivirus show file has virus....

Get over it! It works. Nod32 said the same, virus virus virus....false alarm! Shut up and make some money.
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June 06, 2021, 09:23:06 AM
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The new beta version is finally ready. You can download PhoenixMiner 5.7a from here:

NO SUCH THING.

Yes, where did you get it??? 5.7a?? Are you a SCAMMER??? Get lost from here!
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June 06, 2021, 11:06:58 AM
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Guys I using few weeks PhoenixMiner on six pc with RTX3070.

After every few days on +- 2 pieces PhoenixMiner crash, and close from running applications phoenixminer.exe.
This is doing only sometimes, randomly, always only on a few pieces, not always on same computers.

All six computers are identical, same windows, same updates, same applications, same hardware specs (W10+5800H+RTX3070+16GB+1TB).
Via MSI Afterburner I only downlocked GPU Core, GPU MEM is left on default speed, no OC.
My computers run always +- 2days at a time. After these 2 days are switched to WindowsSleepMode for +- 8hours. And after again start mining for +-2 days at a time.
Now my computers have vbs script/file in windows startup folder, for automatical launch bat file for PhoenixMiner.

Exist in PhoenixMiner some parametr, which I can write to bat file for restart application phoenix.exe if crash or stop work or notright turn-on after WindowsSleepMode?

Today I found information that for example T-Rex have function watchdog, so I was wondering if PhoenixMiner has anything like that.
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