PhoenixMiner 6.2c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux)

[janding]

Does anyone else remember the good-old days when the Phoenix developers actually read their own forum and
posted updates and answered questions. They used to try to improve the product and put out fixes and new releases.
Alas, me thinks those days are gone with the wind.

[StonieMalony]

Does anyone else remember the good-old days when the Phoenix developers actually read their own forum and
posted updates and answered questions. They used to try to improve the product and put out fixes and new releases.
Alas, me thinks those days are gone with the wind.

maybe they are working on exactly those goals so hard that there is no time for forum ... or maybe they ended up having kids and that takes the forum time away

but I hope next version have that dag buffering thing for zil mining

[VRMdude]

thanks for pointing it out tho i wouldnt mine with 6600's unless i found a lorry full in a field lol. As for Linux it can be challenge but very rewaring to break free of MS tho sometimes it can make one want to smash things up in a rage if its not bad enough learning new HW then throw in an unfamaliar distribution i been on Ubuntu till now having moved to Manjaro to get these 6800s singing without windows such is the passion for that here.


6 x RX6800XT up, undervolted and playing nice under linux.   except the stale shares to sort out....


GPU1: 48C 60% 147W, GPU2: 45C 60% 155W, GPU3: 51C 60% 151W, GPU4: 50C 49% 153W, GPU5: 45C 49% 145W, GPU6: 40C 49% 148W
GPU1: cclock 1200 MHz, cvddc 868 mV, mclock 1000 MHz, Tj 54C, Tmem 66C, 403 kH/J
GPU2: cclock 1200 MHz, cvddc 868 mV, mclock 1000 MHz, Tj 53C, Tmem 74C, 391 kH/J
GPU3: cclock 1200 MHz, cvddc 862 mV, mclock 1000 MHz, Tj 57C, Tmem 70C, 401 kH/J
GPU4: cclock 1200 MHz, cvddc 868 mV, mclock 1000 MHz, Tj 58C, Tmem 64C, 387 kH/J
GPU5: cclock 1200 MHz, cvddc 862 mV, mclock 1000 MHz, Tj 53C, Tmem 62C, 408 kH/J
GPU6: cclock 1200 MHz, cvddc 868 mV, mclock 1000 MHz, Tj 48C, Tmem 56C, 400 kH/J
GPUs power: 899.0 W; total power: 1099.0 W; cost: 6.07 USD/day; 326 kH/J
Eth: New job #9a8fdd86 from eth-eu1.nanopool.org:9999; diff: 10000MH
Eth: New job #beaaa833 from eth-eu1.nanopool.org:9999; diff: 10000MH
 
*** 0:09 *** 10/3 22:34 **************************************
Eth: Mining ETH on eth-eu1.nanopool.org:9999 for 0:09
Eth speed: 357.727 MH/s, shares: 23/0/0, time: 0:09
GPUs: 1: 60.585 MH/s (6) 2: 59.152 MH/s (4) 3: 59.165 MH/s (4) 4: 59.154 MH/s (1) 5: 60.514 MH/s (3) 6: 59.157 MH/s (5)
Eth: Accepted shares 23 (5 stales), rejected shares 0 (0 stales)
Eth: Incorrect shares 0 (0.00%), est. stales percentage 21.48%
Eth: Maximum difficulty of found share: 772.1 GH (!)
Eth: Average speed (5 min): 355.251 MH/s
Eth: Effective speed: 425.14 MH/s; at pool: 425.14 MH/s


time for a day or two away let the hash crack on...

Have you tried changing the F-state on linux using a script?  You can get a stable 62.5 MHs on average for each card.

Check out the link below, it was built for HiveOS (which is an Ubuntu variant) so it might prove useful for you:

https://forum.hiveos.farm/t/rx6800-efficient-overclocking/26448/330

Thanks for the reply i will take a look at the link currently hoovering up info as want to solve the stale share problem which im sure is caused by being stuck on kernel 0 for now.

Actually had a breakthrough late last night just before bed it was a "what if a try this" whilst my inner voice was "dont mess about when your this tired just go to bed man" moment, but after a fk it, it turns out two of the 6800's dont like mclock @ 1075 and drop down to 10Mhs with it. I suspect it it could be throttling as when i drop mclock down to 1050 on those two cards they come back to 63Mhs but with hotter mem temps than the others so the following is how i went to bed and woke with the rig still purring away nice n stable at around 380Mhs. :-)


-clkernel 0
#-clNew


-cvddc -165
-cclock 1200
-mclock 1125,1050,1125,1125,1050,1125

-tmax 60
-tt -60,-70,-60,-50,-50,-50
#-gt 6

GPU1: cclock 1200 MHz, cvddc 868 mV, mclock 1074 MHz, Tj 58C, Tmem 72C, 420 kH/J
GPU2: cclock 1200 MHz, cvddc 862 mV, mclock 1049 MHz, Tj 56C, Tmem 78C, 388 kH/J
GPU3: cclock 1200 MHz, cvddc 868 mV, mclock 1074 MHz, Tj 62C, Tmem 76C, 398 kH/J
GPU4: cclock 1200 MHz, cvddc 862 mV, mclock 1074 MHz, Tj 62C, Tmem 70C, 390 kH/J
GPU5: cclock 1200 MHz, cvddc 868 mV, mclock 1049 MHz, Tj 58C, Tmem 66C, 414 kH/J
GPU6: cclock 1200 MHz, cvddc 868 mV, mclock 1074 MHz, Tj 53C, Tmem 60C, 416 kH/J
GPUs power: 941.0 W; total power: 1141.0 W; cost: 6.30 USD/day; 333 kH/J

Eth speed: 383.928 MH/s, shares: 1862/1/21, time: 14:51
GPUs: 1: 63.194 MH/s (285/2) 2: 63.477 MH/s (330/5) 3: 64.645 MH/s (330/2) 4: 64.643 MH/s (287/2) 5: 63.488 MH/s (320/4) 6: 64.482 MH/s (311/6)



Now the above is all running under Manajaro which is a new experience for me with subtle differences to Ubuntu like no @reboot under crontab lol.


I have a test rig running Ubuntu 20.04.3 with AMDGPU driver 21.20 working nice for one GPU but no more and with no stales as able to use optimized kernels. I would like it very much if PM could release next version to solve the multiGPU issue with latest rocr driver which according to link below is related to rocr driver having PCIE 3.0 atomics limitation and i suppose a skeptic might scowl at AMD for messing with miners in that way unlike Nvidia and there LHR darkness. I haven yet been able to get ubuntu working with multigpu but even if possible its obvious i will be back to driver 20.40 stuck on kernel 0 same as Manjaro... On a side note i did try driver 21.30 just for a test, it crashes after building DAG for single GPU.

https://www.reddit.com/r/gpumining/comments/ptmyjd/ubuntu_20043_amdgpu_2130_opencl_rocr_rocm/

You should be able to get the CVDDC down in the 650 range.  I'm running my 3x 6800's in HiveOS clock 1325, mclock 1075 vddc 612, 681,643.  This results in 102W,120W,102W.  All my cards are Powercolor.  The 102W are Red Dragons the 120w is a Fighter.  When I ran them in Windows 10, I was getting getting similar power settings after tweaking the powerplay tables with MorePowerTool.  I switched to HiveOS because it was easier to try out different ETH miners.  Pretty much click and go for that.

interesting thanks for the reply, if i we went VDDC that low there would be no heating here but obv handy for summertime for sure!

So far have resisted any sort of specialist mining operating system but this may warrant an exploration of HiveOs given PM is slowly growing obsolete at present although i dont like the registration bit for it. Need to find out who owns Hiveos and therfore who is benefiting from such data harvesting.

At present i see GPU makers are doing things to inhibit mining with new GPU's such as LHR for Nvidia and the change to ROCR for AMD making it hard to get more than one GPU working with the latest drivers for optimized kernels. I wonder what Intel have planned when they arrive or will it unleash true competition for miners as well.....

[VRMdude]

Does anyone else remember the good-old days when the Phoenix developers actually read their own forum and
posted updates and answered questions. They used to try to improve the product and put out fixes and new releases.
Alas, me thinks those days are gone with the wind.

maybe they are working on exactly those goals so hard that there is no time for forum ... or maybe they ended up having kids and that takes the forum time away

but I hope next version have that dag buffering thing for zil mining

I agree. Its like being late for something and whilst driving there at speed they keep calling on the phone to find out where you are. Stop calling im on the way ffs and dont want to have to pull over to tell you what you already know!!

Dear Phoenix Miner.

Big Navi :-)

[VRMdude]

Okay guys, please, cut the sparks. Everyone here has different goals and different strategies on how to meet their goals. I personally still need some more GPU's to retire my last few 4G cards, but I'm off the market because I do not agree to pay at the retail stores about double the price, compared to the reference price for the cards they selling now. Even a few months ago, I managed to buy 2 new RX 6700 XT cards from eBay at a lower price than what they are selling them now in the retail stores. Also more worst is the situation with the LHR cards. They are not available in the retail stores, but the displayed price is double compared to the founder's edition, and the LHR lock makes them less power efficient even with 70% unlock.
But this is just me. However there are still people who pay these prices, even they know may never make an ROI.
I would never advise someone to do or not to do something unless I had been asked.

Essentially people like us who missed earlier waves.

I think the RX5700's bought used are a good price/power/hash card these days.  I only changed mine to 6800 for the power savings.  I sniped them on ebay auctions at the last second using gixen.com

Dont you think getting a warranty is worth the little extra although many retailers are now sold out sadly...

[janding]

Does anyone else remember the good-old days when the Phoenix developers actually read their own forum and
posted updates and answered questions. They used to try to improve the product and put out fixes and new releases.
Alas, me thinks those days are gone with the wind.

maybe they are working on exactly those goals so hard that there is no time for forum ... or maybe they ended up having kids and that takes the forum time away

but I hope next version have that dag buffering thing for zil mining

yea, that it

[OlympicSSJ]

Hi! Sorry for the off topic but I'm out of ideas! At least I'm using phoenix miner!

So, I bought 2x Tplink p100 smart plugs and have set 2x asrock motherboards  1. b450 steel legend, R5 3600 with 1x 1kw PSU, 2. x470 Master Sli R5 1600, 2x PSUs 1kw connected together. So both motherboards set to restore power after power loss, the first mobo starts as it should after switching the smart plug on, BUT the second x470 mobo only starts spinning bot PSUs fans... but nothing starts...no RBGs, no fans running, not even cpu fan, ONLY the 2 PSU fans are running. It only starts working properly after turning the rig on from the classic power button.

Anyone has any suggestion what the problem could be? Once again Im really sorry for the off topic and thanks in advance!
Cheers!

[miner29]

Hi! Sorry for the off topic but I'm out of ideas! At least I'm using phoenix miner!

So, I bought 2x Tplink p100 smart plugs and have set 2x asrock motherboards  1. b450 steel legend, R5 3600 with 1x 1kw PSU, 2. x470 Master Sli R5 1600, 2x PSUs 1kw connected together. So both motherboards set to restore power after power loss, the first mobo starts as it should after switching the smart plug on, BUT the second x470 mobo only starts spinning bot PSUs fans... but nothing starts...no RBGs, no fans running, not even cpu fan, ONLY the 2 PSU fans are running. It only starts working properly after turning the rig on from the classic power button.

Anyone has any suggestion what the problem could be? Once again Im really sorry for the off topic and thanks in advance!
Cheers!

Have you tried swapping the units at the smart plugs? 
If it follows the rig start there….if it stays at the plug replace it.
Then do the same for the psu’s and motherboards until you isolate what is causing the behavior. 

[OlympicSSJ]

Hi! Sorry for the off topic but I'm out of ideas! At least I'm using phoenix miner!

So, I bought 2x Tplink p100 smart plugs and have set 2x asrock motherboards  1. b450 steel legend, R5 3600 with 1x 1kw PSU, 2. x470 Master Sli R5 1600, 2x PSUs 1kw connected together. So both motherboards set to restore power after power loss, the first mobo starts as it should after switching the smart plug on, BUT the second x470 mobo only starts spinning bot PSUs fans... but nothing starts...no RBGs, no fans running, not even cpu fan, ONLY the 2 PSU fans are running. It only starts working properly after turning the rig on from the classic power button.

Anyone has any suggestion what the problem could be? Once again Im really sorry for the off topic and thanks in advance!
Cheers!

Have you tried swapping the units at the smart plugs? 
If it follows the rig start there….if it stays at the plug replace it.
Then do the same for the psu’s and motherboards until you isolate what is causing the behavior. 

Thanks for the reply! I found out someone had same problem with Asrock x470 motherboard and resolved it by updating the bios. So I gave it a try and updated from bios version 3.50 to 3.70 and this solved my problem!

Now the rig starts when power comes back, but the only problems is that windows shows that message before it enters into windows that the system didn't start up correctly and I should choose restart or actions to restore windows.
Its a bit of a bummer again because you cant log on with teamviewer and cant firgure out why the rig isn't booting...

[nguyenhathienphu]

hope phoenix can quickly support lhr mode.

[PhoenixMiner]

The new beta version is ready. You can download PhoenixMiner 5.8b from here:

PhoenixMiner_5.8b_Windows.zip
PhoenixMiner_5.8b_Linux.tar.gz

To check the integrity of the downloaded file, please use the following hashes (you need the last file PhoenixMiner_NVRTC_Windows.zip only if you want to mine BCI with Nvdia cards under Windows):

Code:

    File: PhoenixMiner_5.8b_Windows.zip
    ===================================
   SHA-1: 82e6695d39d1f823676b80bbe2419f55beb4a387
 SHA-256: 61452bab132f8feef823c5cbb987d9fd0bae1644fa068a31bf66be9a043bef79
 SHA-512: ba3869628f49108212536e4cae479bd479fc1a34fdcf2a6f7dd8651fdae6c6c8e1a1f51e64d470c5e323136ca1a454c581c53bf38811e469be40d994705f96bf

    File: PhoenixMiner_5.8b_Linux.tar.gz
    ====================================
   SHA-1: 19ea3af08dfcdf6228c3bee708213fe4fba0124e
 SHA-256: f8586949d212896f798962440243aa75e5367d27b035407b5871c264d2802af8
 SHA-512: 878d221f3c124f5b34755d1adfbd9e0368e826d4bd3a5df12785d9e878c8b0f222503b8f2ed571b13ba021b095348b6f4eea5847a3b51fb26f13ea9819157303

    File: PhoenixMiner_NVRTC_Windows.zip
    ====================================
   SHA-1: ff6fa5e018adbd52caf631c42b7c2fac7ce48a51
 SHA-256: 8087757169405d51ea8ba818347fb05d0450aef985c29272165070346eb5a54a
 SHA-512: 7b2d832f7f40578bb1f501d5174467f5ae06612e601dab769fd56d39da48a471b18c6373435a485155f70fec4017d8378797bf1e1dfe5d62fee30fa6a1d992c4

The new features in this release are:

• Implemented optimized kernels for AMD RX6600XT cards
• Added support for the latest AMD Windows drivers (21.10.2, 21.10.1, 21.9.2, and 21.9.1). Note that any AMD cards older than Polaris (RX470/480/570/580/590) won't work with the latest AMD drivers.
• Added support for the latest AMD Linux drivers 21.30
• The latest AMD drivers (21.9.1 and later for Windows, and 21.30 and later for Linux) dropped support for the older kernels, so we changed the kernels for AMD Polaris cards to support these new drivers. There is a very small speed improvement (less than 0.1% on average) with the new kernels and the new drivers on Polaris cards
• Note that Radeon VII cards will not work with Windows drivers 21.6.1 or higher, or Linux drivers 21.20 or higher - you need to use older drivers for proper operation of these cards
• Note that AMD Vega cards will not work with Linux drivers 21.20 or higher)
• Other fixes and small improvements

For more robust integrity check, you can use our GPG public key, which was verifyed with ETH transaction from our main devfee account as explained here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2647654.msg56755869#msg56755869. Here are the signatures for the files in this release:

• PhoenixMiner_5.8b_Windows.zip.asc
• PhoenixMiner_5.8b_Linux.tar.gz.asc
• PhoenixMiner_NVRTC_Windows.zip.asc

Please disregard any posts with "new" versions of PhoenixMiner in this thread unless they are from our user account, and the files are hosted on our web server: https://phoenixminer.info/

[Gaelyon]

Thanks for the update !

Is PM fully compatible with WIN11 ? Any trouble with win11 ? I'm a small miner using my main computer which is win11 compliant but i'm concerned about any issue if i patch it to 11.

[zertor]

Please disregard any posts with "new" versions of PhoenixMiner in this thread unless they are from our user account

Why you don't keep downloads only in your 1st post in this topic?
And post notification eventually for a new version as a replies,
but keep all downloads in your 1st post only and not from a replies.

This will kill any spam/scammers attempts due wrong click or overlooking.

[miner29]

Please disregard any posts with "new" versions of PhoenixMiner in this thread unless they are from our user account

Why you don't keep downloads only in your 1st post in this topic?
And post notification eventually for a new version as a replies,
but keep all downloads in your 1st post only and not from a replies.

This will kill any spam/scammers attempts due wrong click or overlooking.

First look who posted…its Phoenixminer same as first post.
Second this is a beta release so not replaceing the first post links.
You can wait until it is official release then 1st post update….but only ever trust beta posted by Phoenixminer himself…not other idiot users who are posting malware.

Its not hard to avoid scam…READ the post and who posted it.  Only ever D/L from posts by Phoenixminer for Phoenix Miner.

And hit the report to moderator any time you see a in this thread with D/L links from any other user in this thread.

[zertor]

Please disregard any posts with "new" versions of PhoenixMiner in this thread unless they are from our user account

Why you don't keep downloads only in your 1st post in this topic?
And post notification eventually for a new version as a replies,
but keep all downloads in your 1st post only and not from a replies.

This will kill any spam/scammers attempts due wrong click or overlooking.

First look who posted…its Phoenixminer same as first post.
Second this is a beta release so not replaceing the first post links.
You can wait until it is official release then 1st post update….but only ever trust beta posted by Phoenixminer himself…not other idiot users who are posting malware.

Its not hard to avoid scam…READ the post and who posted it.  Only ever D/L from posts by Phoenixminer for Phoenix Miner.

And hit the report to moderator any time you see a in this thread with D/L links from any other user in this thread.

First look who posted…its Phoenixminer same as first post.

Its not hard to avoid scam…READ the post and who posted it.  Only ever D/L from posts by Phoenixminer for Phoenix Miner.

Yes I know, but that's not a good solution.
Because you have to check and determine every single spam/scam reply if its legit reply or not.
While if all legit sources are placed on the 1st post, no need to be checked for anything.

And hit the report to moderator any time you see a in this thread with D/L links from any other user in this thread.

No thanks, no time to loose to monitor the forums for those things.
The spammers are constantly and regularly are flooding the topics with those.
(It's not something to be done once and gone)

Second this is a beta release so not replaceing the first post links.

No need to replace anything, in the 1st post it could be placed both/all like this:

Official release:
Link to: etc.......

Beta release:
Link to: etc.......

[miner29]

Please disregard any posts with "new" versions of PhoenixMiner in this thread unless they are from our user account

Why you don't keep downloads only in your 1st post in this topic?
And post notification eventually for a new version as a replies,
but keep all downloads in your 1st post only and not from a replies.

This will kill any spam/scammers attempts due wrong click or overlooking.

First look who posted…its Phoenixminer same as first post.
Second this is a beta release so not replaceing the first post links.
You can wait until it is official release then 1st post update….but only ever trust beta posted by Phoenixminer himself…not other idiot users who are posting malware.

Its not hard to avoid scam…READ the post and who posted it.  Only ever D/L from posts by Phoenixminer for Phoenix Miner.

And hit the report to moderator any time you see a in this thread with D/L links from any other user in this thread.

First look who posted…its Phoenixminer same as first post.

Its not hard to avoid scam…READ the post and who posted it.  Only ever D/L from posts by Phoenixminer for Phoenix Miner.

Yes I know, but that's not a good solution.
Because you have to check and determine every single spam/scam reply if its legit reply or not.
While if all legit sources are placed on the 1st post, no need to be checked for anything.

And hit the report to moderator any time you see a in this thread with D/L links from any other user in this thread.

No thanks, no time to loose to monitor the forums for those things.
The spammers are constantly and regularly are flooding the topics with those.
(It's not something to be done once and gone)

Second this is a beta release so not replaceing the first post links.

No need to replace anything, in the 1st post it could be placed both/all like this:

Official release:
Link to: etc.......

Beta release:
Link to: etc.......

No time to be a productive member of the board but you have plenty of time to bitch.   Whatever…its PM’s thread in the end…and you can read what he wrote above.  Mr…cant be bothered to help make this place better.

[abg00]

The new beta version is ready. You can download PhoenixMiner 5.8b

how to use optimized kernels for AMD RX6600XT cards ?

[Rickirs]

The new beta version is ready. You can download PhoenixMiner 5.8b from here:

PhoenixMiner_5.8b_Windows.zip
PhoenixMiner_5.8b_Linux.tar.gz

To check the integrity of the downloaded file, please use the following hashes (you need the last file PhoenixMiner_NVRTC_Windows.zip only if you want to mine BCI with Nvdia cards under Windows):

Code:

    File: PhoenixMiner_5.8b_Windows.zip
    ===================================
   SHA-1: 82e6695d39d1f823676b80bbe2419f55beb4a387
 SHA-256: 61452bab132f8feef823c5cbb987d9fd0bae1644fa068a31bf66be9a043bef79
 SHA-512: ba3869628f49108212536e4cae479bd479fc1a34fdcf2a6f7dd8651fdae6c6c8e1a1f51e64d470c5e323136ca1a454c581c53bf38811e469be40d994705f96bf

    File: PhoenixMiner_5.8b_Linux.tar.gz
    ====================================
   SHA-1: 19ea3af08dfcdf6228c3bee708213fe4fba0124e
 SHA-256: f8586949d212896f798962440243aa75e5367d27b035407b5871c264d2802af8
 SHA-512: 878d221f3c124f5b34755d1adfbd9e0368e826d4bd3a5df12785d9e878c8b0f222503b8f2ed571b13ba021b095348b6f4eea5847a3b51fb26f13ea9819157303

    File: PhoenixMiner_NVRTC_Windows.zip
    ====================================
   SHA-1: ff6fa5e018adbd52caf631c42b7c2fac7ce48a51
 SHA-256: 8087757169405d51ea8ba818347fb05d0450aef985c29272165070346eb5a54a
 SHA-512: 7b2d832f7f40578bb1f501d5174467f5ae06612e601dab769fd56d39da48a471b18c6373435a485155f70fec4017d8378797bf1e1dfe5d62fee30fa6a1d992c4

The new features in this release are:

• Implemented optimized kernels for AMD RX6600XT cards
• Added support for the latest AMD Windows drivers (21.10.2, 21.10.1, 21.9.2, and 21.9.1). Note that any AMD cards older than Polaris (RX470/480/570/580/590) won't work with the latest AMD drivers.
• Added support for the latest AMD Linux drivers 21.30
• The latest AMD drivers (21.9.1 and later for Windows, and 21.30 and later for Linux) dropped support for the older kernels, so we changed the kernels for AMD Polaris cards to support these new drivers. There is a very small speed improvement (less than 0.1% on average) with the new kernels and the new drivers on Polaris cards
• Note that Radeon VII cards will not work with Windows drivers 21.6.1 or higher, or Linux drivers 21.20 or higher - you need to use older drivers for proper operation of these cards
• Note that AMD Vega cards will not work with Linux drivers 21.20 or higher)
• Other fixes and small improvements

For more robust integrity check, you can use our GPG public key, which was verifyed with ETH transaction from our main devfee account as explained here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2647654.msg56755869#msg56755869. Here are the signatures for the files in this release:

• PhoenixMiner_5.8b_Windows.zip.asc
• PhoenixMiner_5.8b_Linux.tar.gz.asc
• PhoenixMiner_NVRTC_Windows.zip.asc

Please disregard any posts with "new" versions of PhoenixMiner in this thread unless they are from our user account, and the files are hosted on our web server: https://phoenixminer.info/

Anything for LHR ?

[swogerino]

I agree with Rickirs,unless you specifically implement the LHR mode like many of the other miners are doing you are going to lose clients from the Nvidia side,personally I am happy from quite a lot of time with your miner as I mainly have AMD cards but it is a shame that you have not implemented some kind of LHR tune yet,hopefully this will be fixed in the upcoming releases.

[relax69]

Please disregard any posts with "new" versions of PhoenixMiner in this thread unless they are from our user account

Why you don't keep downloads only in your 1st post in this topic?
And post notification eventually for a new version as a replies,
but keep all downloads in your 1st post only and not from a replies.

This will kill any spam/scammers attempts due wrong click or overlooking.

First look who posted…its Phoenixminer same as first post.
Second this is a beta release so not replaceing the first post links.
You can wait until it is official release then 1st post update….but only ever trust beta posted by Phoenixminer himself…not other idiot users who are posting malware.

Its not hard to avoid scam…READ the post and who posted it.  Only ever D/L from posts by Phoenixminer for Phoenix Miner.

And hit the report to moderator any time you see a in this thread with D/L links from any other user in this thread.

First look who posted…its Phoenixminer same as first post.

Its not hard to avoid scam…READ the post and who posted it.  Only ever D/L from posts by Phoenixminer for Phoenix Miner.

Yes I know, but that's not a good solution.
Because you have to check and determine every single spam/scam reply if its legit reply or not.
While if all legit sources are placed on the 1st post, no need to be checked for anything.

And hit the report to moderator any time you see a in this thread with D/L links from any other user in this thread.

No thanks, no time to loose to monitor the forums for those things.
The spammers are constantly and regularly are flooding the topics with those.
(It's not something to be done once and gone)

Second this is a beta release so not replaceing the first post links.

No need to replace anything, in the 1st post it could be placed both/all like this:

Official release:
Link to: etc.......

Beta release:
Link to: etc.......

No time to be a productive member of the board but you have plenty of time to bitch.   Whatever…its PM’s thread in the end…and you can read what he wrote above.  Mr…cant be bothered to help make this place better.

I don't like some of zertor's arguments either, but his idea to have booth official and the beta releases in the first post, will make this thread more organized and safer. For example, people, looking for the miner and never read this thread can found what they need in the first place.