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September 18, 2013, 11:57:45 AM |
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What Weds will look like (assuming they don't restart Jalapenos) Wednesday, Sept 18, 2013 Shipping Update Jalapenos 4.5 and 5 gh/s: Feb 14, 2013 Little Singles 30 and 25 gh/s: Dec 4, 2012 Singles 60 and 50 gh/s: Oct 15, 2012 pay date MiniRigs: August 15 (1st 500 g/s units), July 20 orders (2nd 500 gh/s) and June 27 orders (3rd 500 gh/s unit) Or they can do a big push on Mini-Rigs but either way, if you add up the combined dates moved forward by all three product likes (LS, S and MR) they will equal about 21 days. Problem is they need 21 days PER product line to make the end of September 2013 (so they have 1/3 the manpower they need right now or they need to get 3 times faster than they are)  |
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erschiessen
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September 18, 2013, 01:57:48 PM |
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Inaba_Josh got tired of fighting the truth here so he made a shrewd move and bought two ex-naysayers to be Shills.
BFL can't buy us all off now can they?
They can, but I am a pricey shill. I require payment even for looking in your direction. I don't see either one as shills, frankly I think PG went more in the BFL direction and BCP went more in the opposite direction but that is just one mans opinion. PG went from most-vocal to telling-silence. At what cost? Tales abound about Zerlan being anti-BFL until a visit to their company. What are they, a bunch of Harpies? Sirens? |
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September 18, 2013, 02:58:37 PM |
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BFL placed a alien asic pods underneath their hotel beds...  |
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September 18, 2013, 03:30:33 PM |
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BFL placed a alien asic pods underneath their hotel beds... lol People that visit bfl hq don't leave unchanged it seems. A talented forked tongued propaganda minister most likely. |
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September 18, 2013, 03:35:10 PM |
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BFL placed a alien asic pods underneath their hotel beds... lol People that visit bfl hq don't leave unchanged it seems. A talented forked tongued propaganda minister most likely. If I go there again will they give me a Minirig, maybe?  |
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chanson
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September 18, 2013, 04:19:08 PM |
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 So tired of hearing "But guys, you can't make predictions because you don't know how many units ship per day!" Anyway, my optimistic guess is that Singles and Little Singles make it out of 2012 by the end of September. Jallapenos are dead in the water with some bullshit excuse about outsourcing for shutting the line down. Minirigs... who knows. I've heard something about them shipping out singles equivalents to fulfill minirig orders because minirigs take too long to build (my guess is it's something related to testing and QA... you can pull low-performing individual singles out of production after burn-in or perhaps even flash the firmware to convert them to little singles, but you have to actually open up a minirig to find and replace low-performing boards) |
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September 18, 2013, 04:49:14 PM |
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BFL placed a alien asic pods underneath their hotel beds... lol People that visit bfl hq don't leave unchanged it seems. A talented forked tongued propaganda minister most likely. If I go there again will they give me a Minirig, maybe? I wish. Im going to be in KS for another business meeting... might drop by. |
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LostDutchman
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September 18, 2013, 05:00:03 PM |
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BFL placed a alien asic pods underneath their hotel beds... lol People that visit bfl hq don't leave unchanged it seems. A talented forked tongued propaganda minister most likely. After my visit there I was TRANSFORMED so much that I made this site: http://davetheknife.com/And.......................................... A link and the story was posted on this very forum on May 7, 2013: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=198508.0Wait a minute.............."May 7", you say? Yep. May 7, 2013. The warning was clear but went mostly unheeded. Sorry about that! My $.02.  |
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joeventura (OP)
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September 18, 2013, 05:04:41 PM |
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So tired of hearing "But guys, you can't make predictions because you don't know how many units ship per day!"
Anyway, my optimistic guess is that Singles and Little Singles make it out of 2012 by the end of September. Jallapenos are dead in the water with some bullshit excuse about outsourcing for shutting the line down. Minirigs... who knows. I've heard something about them shipping out singles equivalents to fulfill minirig orders because minirigs take too long to build (my guess is it's something related to testing and QA... you can pull low-performing individual singles out of production after burn-in or perhaps even flash the firmware to convert them to little singles, but you have to actually open up a minirig to find and replace low-performing boards)
Mini-rigs are dead, they are only producing them if you say NO to 8 singles. Of course the problem with that will be when they run out of cases and/or power supplies for actual singles orders. Check earlier in this thread and you will see my predictions for the end of September. |
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joeventura (OP)
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September 18, 2013, 05:11:34 PM |
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75 198 days of Jalapenos to ship [Updated for Joshs 9/11/13 New Date of April 30th 2013] 154 175 299 Days of Little Singles [Updated for Joshs 9/11/13 New Date of April 30th 2013] 209 257 404 days of Singles [Updated for Joshs 9/11/13 New Date of April 30th 2013] 311 430 days of Mini-rig orders. [Updated for Joshs 9/11/13 New Date of April 30th 2013] 749 product line days left to ship They are shipping 21 product line days (product line days is the combined amount of days of all products) on average each day. They need 35 more days (shipping 7 days a week) to get to the end of April. They have 12 days left until their latest self imposed deadline. I am thinking Thanksgiving to clear all product lines to April 30th, then to end of February (just before Monarch) to finish. Timer removed. End time: 2013-09-30+23:59:59UTC |
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Loredo
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September 18, 2013, 05:12:46 PM |
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I'm not all that good at arithmetic, but here's something that doesn't seem to add up to me. It has been mentioned on these threads, credibly, that: (a) BFL has over 10,000 customers; and (b) orders totaled more than 2,000 TH. Those two numbers mesh; the average order could be on the order of 200 GH. If so, here's what doesn't add up for me. That 2,000,000 GH is represented by -say- 20 GH per machine (taking jally's, 30's, 60's, and the rigs). That's 100,000 boxes. That's a lot of boxes a day...  |
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September 18, 2013, 05:25:37 PM |
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Josh is such a dork. If he's going to backpedal his predictions, he should at least backpedal far enough so he's got something he's guaranteed to hit. It's almost as if they're deliberately choosing to be failures.
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September 18, 2013, 05:33:40 PM |
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Dont know if any of you have seen this, but this is from BFL forum.
Josh: There is no "September promise. " Where are you guys getting this from?
I am so glad I have managed to pull out my money out of BFL with the help of lajz99...
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September 18, 2013, 05:36:05 PM |
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Dont know if any of you have seen this, but this is from BFL forum.
Josh: There is no "September promise. " Where are you guys getting this from?
LOL. He will argue his end-of-September estimate was just that; an estimate and nothing more. I've seen this show before and it's just getting sad to keep watching at this point. Wish it would just go off the air or get cancelled already. |
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Rival
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September 18, 2013, 05:41:28 PM |
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Dont know if any of you have seen this, but this is from BFL forum.
Josh: There is no "September promise. " Where are you guys getting this from?
LOL. He will argue his end-of-September estimate was just that; an estimate and nothing more. I've seen this show before and it's just getting sad to keep watching at this point. Wish it would just go off the air or get cancelled already. I am yet to see a quote that indicated that it was anything but a target. If someone would be willing to provide an official quote that indicated that it was anything other than a target or estimate I will stand corrected. |
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September 18, 2013, 05:43:56 PM |
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Dont know if any of you have seen this, but this is from BFL forum.
Josh: There is no "September promise. " Where are you guys getting this from?
LOL. He will argue his end-of-September estimate was just that; an estimate and nothing more. I've seen this show before and it's just getting sad to keep watching at this point. Wish it would just go off the air or get cancelled already. I am yet to see a quote that indicated that it was anything but a target. If someone would be willing to provide an official quote that indicated that it was anything other than a target or estimate I will stand corrected. Send me 1BTC and I estimate that tomorrow I will send you back 2BTC. Good deal? BFL have been giving shipping target for 1 year. |
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Rival
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September 18, 2013, 05:45:48 PM |
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Send me 1BTC and I estimate that tomorrow I will send you back 2BTC. Good deal?
BFL have been estimating shipping date since 1 year.
Still waiting for quote. |
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September 18, 2013, 05:46:57 PM |
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Send me 1BTC and I estimate that tomorrow I will send you back 2BTC. Good deal?
BFL have been estimating shipping date since 1 year.
Still waiting for quote. Send me your bitcoin and I promise that the target is to send you back the double by tomorrow. |
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Rival
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September 18, 2013, 05:48:05 PM |
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Send me your bitcoin and I promise that the target is to send you back the double by tomorrow.
Still waiting for quote so that I can stand corrected. How hard can that be? |
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Xian01
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September 18, 2013, 05:54:46 PM |
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Send me 1BTC and I estimate that tomorrow I will send you back 2BTC. Good deal?
BFL have been estimating shipping date since 1 year.
Still waiting for quote. Send me your bitcoin and I promise that the target is to send you back the double by tomorrow. I have Rival ignored, so won't be responding to him directly, but hopefully this should suffice. Again, it was never more than an estimate; not disputing that. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283853.0"We are are working to fulfill our current order backlog as soon as possible. Our current estimate is by September 30 we should have most of our order backlog fulfilled. Your orders should ship in advance of that date." What people take issue with, is it speaks to a pattern of consistently making mistakes when producing estimates. This has been going on since November 2012 (Earlier than that if you count their first FPGA projects' missteps) It's getting tired and pathetic at this point. |
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