Official BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread

[silver71]

Not s scam, but here is more info. Coincraft A1 ASIC chips are produced in China in Innosilicon factory according to Bitmine.CH design and produced for Bitmine as ordering party.

http://www.innosilicon.com/

Does it mean some worker was stealing or maybe some other way thief(s) obtained them (stealing in shipment?), I'm currently unaware.

However I am aware that each tray is 9x21 meaning one tray has 189 chips, so a thief have stolen approx 10 trays and maybe some extra he/she/they could put in their pockets.

Technobit was regular buyer from Bitmine, as well as AMT.

Yes, I'm quite aware of the connection between AMT, Bitmine and Technobit. AMT sent me a miner to review and to alleviate some fears about their legitimacy. I think they failed in that, as they haven't alleviated MY fears about their legitimacy. However, the beast runs Technobit HEX16B's, and I have followed Technobit pretty much since their founding. They were first to market with an A1 based miner. Well, hashing board, anyway. AMT is still dithering.

But what I was referencing was that the note, when translated, mentioned AMT and Bitmine, but not Technobit. Just found that a bit odd, given that Technobit has more exposure and success than AMT, and probably at this point than Bitmine. Why leave them out if this is Legit? (or perhaps certifiably illegitimate, given the subject...)

The numbers make sense in light of your new data, but why two NEW accounts posting the same "warning" in the AMT and Bitmine thread? I smell fish.

I'm not getting into who's fucking with whose brains because I haven't got the time for that.

What I'm however glad is that we figured out where chinese rigs come from.

So for you to understand Biomech, your AMT rig was assembled this way :

1. chips from Bitmine
2. PCBs from Technobit
3. their own final assembly (AMT)

Why not from Bitmine ?

Since Bitmine at that time had problems with their PCB issues.

Whether only for 8 or 10-chip board is yet not known (to me), but let's hope Kev.in comes up with more info so you and I, and we all will know what problems were and which problems are solved. To my knowledge there has been a problem with scarcity of tantalum capacitors, not available last week anywhere in Europe in any assembly facility for SoC pick-and-place. If that was the only problem and is now solved, things now look very prommissing.

And now with this resolving of chips theft happened as if not more things can go wrong MURHPY'S LAW INDEED

[ujka]

Hi.
...

This message in chinese in the post seems fake to me. It feels like they are originally written in english and get translated into chinese using google translate. I am wondering who is really playing black PR or get paid for bad review here,  

And now follow this
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=466254.msg5333701#msg5333701
And this
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=482921.msg5333605#msg5333605

[ujka]

Not s scam, but here is more info. Coincraft A1 ASIC chips are produced in China in Innosilicon factory according to Bitmine.CH design and produced for Bitmine as ordering party.

http://www.innosilicon.com/

Does it mean some worker was stealing or maybe some other way thief(s) obtained them (stealing in shipment?), I'm currently unaware.

However I am aware that each tray is 9x21 meaning one tray has 189 chips, so a thief have stolen approx 10 trays and maybe some extra he/she/they could put in their pockets.

Technobit was regular buyer from Bitmine, as well as AMT.

Yes, I'm quite aware of the connection between AMT, Bitmine and Technobit. AMT sent me a miner to review and to alleviate some fears about their legitimacy. I think they failed in that, as they haven't alleviated MY fears about their legitimacy. However, the beast runs Technobit HEX16B's, and I have followed Technobit pretty much since their founding. They were first to market with an A1 based miner. Well, hashing board, anyway. AMT is still dithering.

But what I was referencing was that the note, when translated, mentioned AMT and Bitmine, but not Technobit. Just found that a bit odd, given that Technobit has more exposure and success than AMT, and probably at this point than Bitmine. Why leave them out if this is Legit? (or perhaps certifiably illegitimate, given the subject...)

The numbers make sense in light of your new data, but why two NEW accounts posting the same "warning" in the AMT and Bitmine thread? I smell fish.

Smells fishy. But those other three NEW accounts (skyfromwell, seeksilence, haevenstar) smell even fishier to me.

Edit
Why Technobit wasn't mentioned? Maybe because Technobit isn't selling 1T miners, and wasn't perceived as a direct competitor.

[silver71]

Hi.
...

This message in chinese in the post seems fake to me. It feels like they are originally written in english and get translated into chinese using google translate. I am wondering who is really playing black PR or get paid for bad review here,  

And now follow this
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=466254.msg5333701#msg5333701
And this
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=482921.msg5333605#msg5333605

JingTian = Sunrise with frontoffice dummy in UK, just established (actually in Scotland).

[Rave]

Dear Mr. XXX,

at this moment your device is passing the final test on production in order to see if everything is working as it should be. If everything is going as planned will be shipped this afternoon,otherwise it will be shipped tomorrow afternoon. In any case I will communicate you with the exact shipping date and the total extra hashing power that you will be receiving. Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Wow....

#39, Batch 1.

[Wolke]

Dear Mr. XXX,

at this moment your device is passing the final test on production in order to see if everything is working as it should be. If everything is going as planned will be shipped this afternoon,otherwise it will be shipped tomorrow afternoon. In any case I will communicate you with the exact shipping date and the total extra hashing power that you will be receiving. Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Wow....

#39, Batch 1.

que 39

[Rave]

Jep...#39 in queue of the first batch.

[Wolke]

Jep...#39 in queue of the first batch.

ok thanks... in this case i get a little bit more soothes..

[Biomech]

Not s scam, but here is more info. Coincraft A1 ASIC chips are produced in China in Innosilicon factory according to Bitmine.CH design and produced for Bitmine as ordering party.

http://www.innosilicon.com/

Does it mean some worker was stealing or maybe some other way thief(s) obtained them (stealing in shipment?), I'm currently unaware.

However I am aware that each tray is 9x21 meaning one tray has 189 chips, so a thief have stolen approx 10 trays and maybe some extra he/she/they could put in their pockets.

Technobit was regular buyer from Bitmine, as well as AMT.

Yes, I'm quite aware of the connection between AMT, Bitmine and Technobit. AMT sent me a miner to review and to alleviate some fears about their legitimacy. I think they failed in that, as they haven't alleviated MY fears about their legitimacy. However, the beast runs Technobit HEX16B's, and I have followed Technobit pretty much since their founding. They were first to market with an A1 based miner. Well, hashing board, anyway. AMT is still dithering.

But what I was referencing was that the note, when translated, mentioned AMT and Bitmine, but not Technobit. Just found that a bit odd, given that Technobit has more exposure and success than AMT, and probably at this point than Bitmine. Why leave them out if this is Legit? (or perhaps certifiably illegitimate, given the subject...)

The numbers make sense in light of your new data, but why two NEW accounts posting the same "warning" in the AMT and Bitmine thread? I smell fish.

I'm not getting into who's fucking with whose brains because I haven't got the time for that.

What I'm however glad is that we figured out where chinese rigs come from.

So for you to understand Biomech, your AMT rig was assembled this way :

1. chips from BitmineBitfury
2. PCBs from Technobit
3. their own final assembly (AMT)

Why not from Bitmine ?

Since Bitmine at that time had problems with their PCB issues.

Whether only for 8 or 10-chip board is yet not known (to me), but let's hope Kev.in comes up with more info so you and I, and we all will know what problems were and which problems are solved. To my knowledge there has been a problem with scarcity of tantalum capacitors, not available last week anywhere in Europe in any assembly facility for SoC pick-and-place. If that was the only problem and is now solved, things now look very prommissing.

And now with this resolving of chips theft happened as if not more things can go wrong MURHPY'S LAW INDEED

Mine was a bitfury rig.

But anyway, yes, somebody is playing head games. Just not sure who. Oh, and AMT hasn't delivered any Bitmine based miners yet, or had not as of earlier today. Just some of the older Technobit/bitfury based miners. Which are quite nice, but not real fast.

[stevebrowne]

Dear Mr. XXX,

at this moment your device is passing the final test on production in order to see if everything is working as it should be. If everything is going as planned will be shipped this afternoon,otherwise it will be shipped tomorrow afternoon. In any case I will communicate you with the exact shipping date and the total extra hashing power that you will be receiving. Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Wow....

#39, Batch 1.

But wow! A ship notification (near enough). Please keep us informed of the progress. You might be the first poster to get one...

[psycho-pass]

But anyway, yes, somebody is playing head games. Just not sure who. Oh, and AMT hasn't delivered any Bitmine based miners yet, or had not as of earlier today. Just some of the older Technobit/bitfury based miners. Which are quite nice, but not real fast.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=456691.0

i also noticed that too, someone is pulling the strings or a as one will say bending them over

[xray]

Just tried calling them about an hour ago, 11.30am Belgium time. left on hold for 18 mins listening to "Snap , I got the power"
nobody came to talk to me
ended up hanging up the phone

[Wolke]

Just tried calling them about an hour ago, 11.30am Belgium time. left on hold for 18 mins listening to "Snap , I got the power"
nobody came to talk to me
ended up hanging up the phone

this song is so amazing....  my head thinks its the song of bitmine... oh 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxAwkZsf8Gg

after 14:00 you can call them again ;-) ... please give us the result..

[Rave]

left on hold for 18 mins listening to "Snap , I got the power"

Well, at least they have an ironic humor...

[georgem]

left on hold for 18 mins listening to "Snap , I got the power"

Well, at least they have an ironic humor...

lol, you beat me to it.

[horrorhorst]

Dear Mr. XXX,

at this moment your device is passing the final test on production in order to see if everything is working as it should be. If everything is going as planned will be shipped this afternoon,otherwise it will be shipped tomorrow afternoon. In any case I will communicate you with the exact shipping date and the total extra hashing power that you will be receiving. Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Wow....

#39, Batch 1.

Wow mby my miners will be ready too if they rly stick to their shipping queue

[ujka]

...
It basically says that have stolen a small quantity of chips from the bitmine factory in china. They plan to make 47 miners and want to mine with them first and sell them and deliver them late. They say they are creating fake companies here in this forum to try and pre-sell them.
...

So, that's where these 50 miners came from
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1swrtyBsp9odruX65upeyubAVSAyggh78
Started mining on 30.1.2014.
They are now trying to sell them in two or three threads here in custom hardware.

Confirmed.

Also, on the photo of a board they (skyfromwell) posted on flicker, there you can see A1 written on chips.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=466254.msg5335037#msg5335037

[Scheffler66719]

...
It basically says that have stolen a small quantity of chips from the bitmine factory in china. They plan to make 47 miners and want to mine with them first and sell them and deliver them late. They say they are creating fake companies here in this forum to try and pre-sell them.
...

So, that's where these 50 miners came from
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1swrtyBsp9odruX65upeyubAVSAyggh78
Started mining on 30.1.2014.
They are now trying to sell them in two or three threads here in custom hardware.

Confirmed.

Also, on the photo of a board they (skyfromwell) posted on flicker, there you can see A1 written on chips.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=466254.msg5335037#msg5335037

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7434/12716629744_912c494449_b_d.jpg

Hi guys,

my English is not so good


This is this original

I have today put me in the car and visited Bitmine (journey time 3 hours)



Desk & Rig Board
https://picasaweb.google.com/117215199993238045647/12Februar2014Bitmine#5979632635695283762

coincraft desk
old right. new left 
difference position of the chips

https://picasaweb.google.com/117215199993238045647/12Februar2014Bitmine#5979632691083832530

coincraft Rig
old right. new left
difference position of the chips and 2 more chips per board

https://picasaweb.google.com/117215199993238045647/12Februar2014Bitmine#5979632663814465746

[matthewh3]

So does that mean that they're now using twelve chips per board in the Rig and ten boards in the big rig.  So a total of 120 chips?  Meaning you'd need to be able to get 23.3GH/s per chip to get the quoted maximum of 2.8TH/s.  What kind of power would be needed to get 120 chips up to 23.3GH/s each?

[websmith]

mini nuclear power plant is supplied with mining rig