Official Thread: AMT

[Biomech]

One last question....Does anyone think these RIGS will make ROI at 1.5TH/s?

Will we ever make our 12K back? Or are we doomed to fail due to this opened marketing?

~SSgt Merry

only if bit-coin makes a rebound and then you would probably be better off investing into buying bit-coin now. You would probably make a better profit if it actualy does recover after all that has happened lately, but I still have some faith.

as far as mining other alt coins I fear that once all these miners hit the market and start pointing at these smaller coins it will just crash their market as they aren't big enough to support large trade volumes and so paying for electricity will drive their coin value to worthless.

Just my opinion.
Anybody else see it different?

Actually, I do see it different. Somewhat. Some of the coins are going nowhere, fast. But the same thing has been said of bitcoin, in that the asics would make it unprofitable, etc. Instead, it has grown.

The bigger the network, the stronger the coin. Now, if all the coin has going for it is trade to/from bitcoin, it's gonna die regardless. But if a coin is developed to where it's a viable trade instrument, and there are a few out there trying for it, then the more miners it has, the more trade volume it will generate, and the more it's price vs. fiat and btc will rise.

It must be said that I'm something of a cynical optimist, so take it for what it's worth.

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[Biomech]

Isawhim,

just want you to now the bitter old fuck comment was definitely not pointed at you. you actually seem calmer than most and you still have a sense of hummer.

I'm a bitter old fuck... with a sense of humour. No hummer, though. A real HMMWV, maybe...

[Biomech]

Isawhim,

just want you to now the bitter old fuck comment was definitely not pointed at you. you actually seem calmer than most and you still have a sense of hummer.

Oh, but I am... (In between my screwed-up humor, which few get.)
That was a guilt-response... xD

Others here can confirm my assertion to being a dick... a bitter old guy... a douche... (Guilty)

But I am still human. (Until proven otherwise, by three independent groups, of my designation.)

Are you sure you want to cop to that? Humans are a pretty fucked up species...

[Biomech]

Bruno, I really wish I could call you out on this. I got used, and it doesn't feel good. It would be nice if they proved legit, but stupid.

My hope is that they tried to strike out on their own, rather than licensing the Technobit design(which reading between the lines seems like that was gonna be the original deal, but they couldn't reach an agreement with Martin on the price) and fell on their face. Then I wouldn't look like such a schmuck.

But the way they act, even this latest update, suggests something else. Not sure what, but it smells bad.

[captin crunch]

One last question....Does anyone think these RIGS will make ROI at 1.5TH/s?

Will we ever make our 12K back? Or are we doomed to fail due to this opened marketing?

~SSgt Merry

only if bit-coin makes a rebound and then you would probably be better off investing into buying bit-coin now. You would probably make a better profit if it actualy does recover after all that has happened lately, but I still have some faith.

as far as mining other alt coins I fear that once all these miners hit the market and start pointing at these smaller coins it will just crash their market as they aren't big enough to support large trade volumes and so paying for electricity will drive their coin value to worthless.

Just my opinion.
Anybody else see it different?

Actually, I do see it different. Somewhat. Some of the coins are going nowhere, fast. But the same thing has been said of bitcoin, in that the asics would make it unprofitable, etc. Instead, it has grown.

The bigger the network, the stronger the coin. Now, if all the coin has going for it is trade to/from bitcoin, it's gonna die regardless. But if a coin is developed to where it's a viable trade instrument, and there are a few out there trying for it, then the more miners it has, the more trade volume it will generate, and the more it's price vs. fiat and btc will rise.

It must be said that I'm something of a cynical optimist, so take it for what it's worth.

Good points. I'll be the 1st to admit I have a lot to learn about the trading aspects of these coins but I tend to be a fast learner and always enjoy other peoples take on things.

[captin crunch]

Isawhim,

just want you to now the bitter old fuck comment was definitely not pointed at you. you actually seem calmer than most and you still have a sense of hummer.

I'm a bitter old fuck... with a sense of humour. No hummer, though. A real HMMWV, maybe...

Fuck'n spell check!

Definatly not pointed at you either. I didn't even realize you were a sr member. your way to easy going and funny as hell.

[Biomech]

One last question....Does anyone think these RIGS will make ROI at 1.5TH/s?

Will we ever make our 12K back? Or are we doomed to fail due to this opened marketing?

~SSgt Merry

only if bit-coin makes a rebound and then you would probably be better off investing into buying bit-coin now. You would probably make a better profit if it actualy does recover after all that has happened lately, but I still have some faith.

as far as mining other alt coins I fear that once all these miners hit the market and start pointing at these smaller coins it will just crash their market as they aren't big enough to support large trade volumes and so paying for electricity will drive their coin value to worthless.

Just my opinion.
Anybody else see it different?

Actually, I do see it different. Somewhat. Some of the coins are going nowhere, fast. But the same thing has been said of bitcoin, in that the asics would make it unprofitable, etc. Instead, it has grown.

The bigger the network, the stronger the coin. Now, if all the coin has going for it is trade to/from bitcoin, it's gonna die regardless. But if a coin is developed to where it's a viable trade instrument, and there are a few out there trying for it, then the more miners it has, the more trade volume it will generate, and the more it's price vs. fiat and btc will rise.

It must be said that I'm something of a cynical optimist, so take it for what it's worth.

Good points. I'll be the 1st to admit I have a lot to learn about the trading aspects of these coins but I tend to be a fast learner and always enjoy other peoples take on things.

I've largely been an enthusiastic observer. That is about to change. ISAWHIM has offered to teach me some stuff, an offer I intend to take. I just haven't had time recently. As of today, most of the massive amount of shit that came down on me all at once has been either resolved or put at bay, so I hope to have that time very soon. Life moves awfully fast for us old farts I wish bitcoin had happened twenty years ago. I learned a lot faster and a lot easier back then...

[Biomech]

Isawhim,

just want you to now the bitter old fuck comment was definitely not pointed at you. you actually seem calmer than most and you still have a sense of hummer.

I'm a bitter old fuck... with a sense of humour. No hummer, though. A real HMMWV, maybe...

Fuck'n spell check!

Definatly not pointed at you either. I didn't even realize you were a sr member. your way to easy going and funny as hell.

Thanks! Senior member only really means I have a loud mouth. I've been involved in Bitcoin for a bit over two years, and on this forum since... don't recall the date now, but around a year. I lurked for several months before I joined, so as to not look like a fool.

It didn't work. I still managed to step on my dick several times

I've been a forum rat, and before that BBS's, since the mid 70's. If you don't grow some armour in that amount of time, you really will be bitter.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Bruno, I really wish I could call you out on this. I got used, and it doesn't feel good. It would be nice if they proved legit, but stupid.

My hope is that they tried to strike out on their own, rather than licensing the Technobit design(which reading between the lines seems like that was gonna be the original deal, but they couldn't reach an agreement with Martin on the price) and fell on their face. Then I wouldn't look like such a schmuck.

But the way they act, even this latest update, suggests something else. Not sure what, but it smells bad.

Have I ever told you that I have two 55 gallon drums of old barn wood nails? I've always wonder what I was going to use them rusty fucks for. Now I know: A coffin!

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4. Walk up the stairs until you hit a door called "Safe", walk in the door and speak to a man named Harrison who is 6'3 and about 320lbs and he will welcome you and explain that this is an assembly and shipping point and the he is a family friend of one of the founders and that he was nice enough to help a start up get their feet off the ground.

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Hey, Joshua, it's me again. I couldn't help but notice that some dude was using the address of that friend of the founder of AMT that you mentioned on a site that you now currently own back in Jan. 23, 2012.

http://web.archive.org/web/20120123095514/http://setupstarters.com/about

Contact Us Today

Setupstarters Inc.
1254 West Chest Pike
Philadelphia
PA
19083
(347)-321-8033
Info@setupstarters.com
(C) 2011 SetupStarters Inc

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that where your Daddy-O, Harrison Zachariah Zipkin, has his various enterprises located, Joshua Zipkin?

Josh, I may be an idiot, but you're a fuckin' liar, and your dad is a fuckin' conman, and from what we are all witnessing, so are you.

[Biomech]

Bruno, I really wish I could call you out on this. I got used, and it doesn't feel good. It would be nice if they proved legit, but stupid.

My hope is that they tried to strike out on their own, rather than licensing the Technobit design(which reading between the lines seems like that was gonna be the original deal, but they couldn't reach an agreement with Martin on the price) and fell on their face. Then I wouldn't look like such a schmuck.

But the way they act, even this latest update, suggests something else. Not sure what, but it smells bad.

Have I ever told you that I have two 55 gallon drums of old barn wood nails? I've always wonder what I was going to use them rusty fucks for. Now I know: A coffin!

No. You only told me about the barnwood. And here I was gonna spend all that ImaginaryCoin on just wood? You holdin' out on me, Bruno?

Oh, and what you gonna do with the other 109.5 gallons of rusty metal?

[ISAWHIM]

In all fairness (here it goes, me looking like I am defending again)...

I have had many bad start-ups fail. Not sure I would call me a con though. Took a while to find a foundation for me to stand on. But I found one. (Might be my attraction to AMT, subconsciously.)

I found the face-book friend thing funny... it had a twitter thing too... but the page itself only had 158 followers. (Not quite a good selling-point, when it advertises that it gets you thousands of followers. )

I had a bunch of "instant content" web-plugins like that on my server-package, with c-panel. Never used them though.

This is getting a little over the top now. Seeing more assumptions again. (Well, not seeing the hard-core connections or relevance that you do, to all this stuff.) Still, it is entertaining to read. So I am enjoying it all the same. The best one was the photo of the masonic group. However, I don't think I am anything like my father. Not sure about this situation. (My grandfather was a shady guy... But he made our family a lot of money, still coming years after his passing. I don't ask questions, I just cash the checks. )

It is clear that they are producing products. So, past events, like those that haunt BFL, have little impact on the present. (Little, not none. Obviously, via the constant posts. )

You really want some funny stuff... I found my old twitter account... Forgot I had one.
https://twitter.com/ISAWHIM

Wish that friend thing was still running... I could use a few more followers.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

In all fairness (here it goes, me looking like I am defending again)...

I have had many bad start-ups fail. Not sure I would call me a con though. Took a while to find a foundation for me to stand on. But I found one. (Might be my attraction to AMT, subconsciously.)

I found the face-book friend thing funny... it had a twitter thing too... but the page itself only had 158 followers. (Not quite a good selling-point, when it advertises that it gets you thousands of followers. )

I had a bunch of "instant content" web-plugins like that on my server-package, with c-panel. Never used them though.

This is getting a little over the top now. Seeing more assumptions again. (Well, not seeing the hard-core connections or relevance that you do, to all this stuff.) Still, it is entertaining to read. So I am enjoying it all the same. The best one was the photo of the masonic group. However, I don't think I am anything like my father. Not sure about this situation. (My grandfather was a shady guy... But he made our family a lot of money, still coming years after his passing. I don't ask questions, I just cash the checks. )

It is clear that they are producing products. So, past events, like those that haunt BFL, have little impact on the present. (Little, not none. Obvioulsy, via the constant posts. )

That site that Harrison had with the bad reviews was taken down, then rebranded with another domain name.

I just found a bunch of sites that Joshua uses his father's, Harrison, and mother's (name withheld) home address. You remember that Harrison dude, correct? He's a friend of the founder of AMT that goes by the name Joshua Zipkin and whose Daddy-O is named Harrison Zachariah Zipkin. What are the odds of that happening?

[ISAWHIM]

lol, this single forum post is going to have soooo many backlinks for google to direct people here for all sorts of oddball things. Google is going to think this is a wiki page of keywords. It is going to choke digesting all 115 pages of (2289 posts).

Here, lets add some more, for google to direct everyone here...

Fastest bitcoin miner, terahash, terrahash, petahash, pettahash, kitchen sink clogged drain, easy home repairs, get more money from your taxes, free credit report, Justin Bieber, free porn, Britney Spears, twitter, facebook, myspace, bitcoin news, North Korea, Yahoo help, mt gox, web md, spyware removal...

Somewhere, seven pages back, is AMT's replies with photos of the 1.2THs miners, and new boards for the 3.4THs miners... But if google brings you here, just go to the news section of AMT's website. They might post the photos there too.

Ok, back to public conversation.

[rik_khaos]

Phin is looking more like a loony each page. It looks almost like an unhealthy obsession. I'm afraid that he's going to boil Josh's Bunny.

It makes sense that one of his other companies would have used that address as there are obvious ties to it.


In looking into USAC I see they weren't BBB accredited, but did have a whopping 1 complaint filed against them! For shame UASC.

In looking into American Security Advisers, LLC They seem to be an authorized dealer of connect america products. Which you would be able to verify with just a few clicks through their web site.

Then looking on this page http://connectamerica.com/index.php?pr=Med_Alert you can see they have dealers coast to coast ( Hey they say they are the fastest growing medical alert company)

Looking at the BBB connect america is A+ rated by the better business bureau. HOW DARE THEY!

You seem to have a personal vendetta. Maybe you are just part of some old european blood feud that we don't know about.

 Regardless of whether or not I get a miner you might want to look into seeing someone to talk about your trust issues. I know from experience that professionals can help, and I'd hate to see you so upset over something like this. I'm here for you buddy if you ever need to just talk or hug it out.

 

[rik_khaos]

lol, this single forum post is going to have soooo many backlinks for google to direct people here for all sorts of oddball things. Google is going to think this is a wiki page of keywords. It is going to choke digesting all 115 pages of (2289 posts).

Here, lets add some more, for google to direct everyone here...

Fastest bitcoin miner, terahash, terrahash, petahash, pettahash, kitchen sink clogged drain, easy home repairs, get more money from your taxes, free credit report, Justin Bieber, free porn, Britney Spears, twitter, facebook, myspace, bitcoin news, North Korea, Yahoo help, mt gox, web md, spyware removal...

Somewhere, seven pages back, is AMT's replies with photos of the 1.2THs miners, and new boards for the 3.4THs miners... But if google brings you here, just go to the news section of AMT's website. They might post the photos there too.

Ok, back to public conversation.

THe blue part looks like a new verse to we didn't start the fire.

Hey Phin, I have it on good authority that ISAWHIM is Billy Joel. and I wonder if Losiha will take that bet.

[rik_khaos]

Would it be possible to just cancel my order and get a refund? That is what I want. If that is not possible, I will sell my spot to someone. Order #847.

P.S. - Sorry for posting a sap story. I was just unhappy with my situation and had no other way if expressing my feelings regarding it. I did not anticipate my posts being dissected and analyzed so thoroughly. I apologize.

Don't apologize, just suck it up. Did you just find out about the internet today? It's a savage digital jungle out here.

[ISAWHIM]

Would it be possible to just cancel my order and get a refund? That is what I want. If that is not possible, I will sell my spot to someone. Order #847.

P.S. - Sorry for posting a sap story. I was just unhappy with my situation and had no other way if expressing my feelings regarding it. I did not anticipate my posts being dissected and analyzed so thoroughly. I apologize.

Didn't mean to be such a prick... but you asked for it... JK...

Don't apologize... tell me to fuck-off. (Makes others feel better. I don't mind being told that, I am not your fiance. I think I might even like it, in a twisted way. Don't lay down so fast!)

Seriously though, I don't doubt you ran into a blast of bad luck, even if induced. Stick it out, and focus on the more important things right now... Your personal finances, and fiance. The miner comes when it comes. It will not be a savior to your issues. Though it may eventually aid in the turning point of your luck.

Take a few days away from the forum, send a decent e-mail to Jim, or a phone-call. You are so close to your secondary objective, but you really need to focus on your first objective. Even a return would actually set you back, more than help you, at this point. (Long-term)

Try selling the 80GHs model you have in your possession. That will be possible to sell now, and impossible to sell later. Also, it will not give you nearly as much reward as the 1.2THs model (1.5THs for us, I believe.) That one you can sell later too, for a lot more, once it is in your hands. By the time you get a break-even return-check for your purchase, the miner would just have been arriving, and then you could have gotten almost 2x more selling it directly to an impatient miner. (Potentially, results may vary.)

Since you felt the need to apologize (though you should not have), then I will too... Sorry for being me. xD

Group hug! JK... Don't touch me!

P.S. That post back there was about two lines away from being a Nigerian-letter... All you needed to add was something about being a prince, and wanting a western-union transfer, and our bank-account numbers.

P.P.S. Like all those additional hot-google-search-words I threw into the mix... lol

[rik_khaos]

Would it be possible to just cancel my order and get a refund? That is what I want. If that is not possible, I will sell my spot to someone. Order #847.

P.S. - Sorry for posting a sap story. I was just unhappy with my situation and had no other way if expressing my feelings regarding it. I did not anticipate my posts being dissected and analyzed so thoroughly. I apologize.

I'll tell you what. Contact them and ask for a refund. If not I will trade you my spot at #1432 for your 1.2 order at #847

That way you don't get a miner you don't want and you have more time to secure a buyer, then if you don't find one by the end of march then you are stuck with the machine you don't want.

[ISAWHIM]

I'll tell you what. Contact them and ask for a refund. If not I will trade you my spot at #1432 for your 1.2 order at #847

That way you don't get a miner you don't want and you have more time to secure a buyer, then if you don't find one by the end of march then you are stuck with the machine you don't want.

Does that qualify for a douche award too? 2nd place winner!

Ok, this thread is now the dysfunctional tough-love reality-check sorta-help thread for AMT... will that fit as the thread title?

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Speaking of weird coincidences...

On Feb. 8, 2014, at 4:05 PM (probably CST, my time), Michael Mayernich tweeted a Bitcoin related tibit: https://twitter.com/mmayernick/status/432273999121235968

"Apple removed the world's most popular Bitcoin wallet due to an 'unresolved issue.'" http://readwrite.com/2014/02/06/apple-blockchain-last-bitcoin-wallet-ios-app-store-iphone#feed=/author/lauren-orsini&awesm=~ovjI0EP7Pk9uEc … by @laureninspace #bitcoin

The above was retweeted by Jen Cohen Crompton, below.

On Feb. 8, 2014, at 4:11 PM (6 minutes later, also prob. CST), Jen Cohen Crompton tweeted the following: https://twitter.com/JenCoCrompton/status/432275634401083392

I'm at Giampino's Cucina Italiana (Havertown, PA) http://4sq.com/1cgASZu

Giampino’s Cucina Italiana located at 1254 West Chest Pike, commonly known as 1254 West Chester Pike, where a friend of the founder of AMT has an office on the 3rd floor, and is happy to discuss your Bitcoin mining needs.

I'll leave it up to the readers to figure out what rolls these two folks play in the Bitcoin community.