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my ref Commision & earning decreased about 70% since 2 weeks ago whats going on?
Can you send photos of your history? But MexicanTarget is correct - as the price of BTC goes up the value of each free roll goes down. The value of the free roll payouts is fixed to pay the same amount in fiat at each level regardless of the BTC price.
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You will have to wait for the transaction to confirm on the network before it will be available to you. I believe as long as it has one confirmation you should see the funds.
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wetsuit, MyfeCan you explain me what does it means? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3ADeXxM.jpg&t=665&c=lj6uYkVbhMxHdw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvhZQP90.jpg&t=665&c=JNqFLIvAHV_ozA) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fv4hmsXD.jpg&t=665&c=jtSZ1X-2xc-CCA) This message comes when I try to browse/load freebitco.in by my phone browser a few minutes ago. What means this message?
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May 15, 2017, 11:00:13 AM |
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wetsuit, Myfe Can you explain me what does it means? ~snip~
This message comes when I try to browse/load freebitco.in by my phone browser a few minutes ago. What means this message?
That's odd, I just tried mine, and I even also accessed from my mobile to make sure we applied the same condition amd I can access mine just fine. Your problem usually happen when their security license is expired but since mine works normally without the warning, so the problem seems to happen specially for your side. Are you sure you accessed from your bookmark? Or your web-auto-complete? I mean, do you access the page from typing it on Google and click the first link? My concern is if you do the later to access their site and instead of clicking the real site, you unknowingly accessed a dummy site that cloned freebitco, like what happened months ago with blockchain.info and blockchaln.info (I didn't remember correctly what the dummy address was)
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May 16, 2017, 03:00:08 AM |
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We had exchanged a few PMs and it's been a while since then. I thought I'd drop a message here, since you were worrying about FH being "new" and might have "security" issues when it first launched. It's been over 5 months since then, and we've taken over the faucet scene.
More than 60% of faucet industry coins are going through faucethub, and it can be seen on the stats page. You remember that I offered you a direct withdraw option from faucethub to your site. That was the reason I approached today.
I'm not sure if your "community manager" consulted you before posting what he posted, but I find this very unprofessional and disappointing.
Anyway, forget I even asked you (wetsuit) to add FH as a withdraw option.
Wish you good luck with your business.
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What's the benefit to FH for faucet users? I must be missing something. Since wetsuit's site lets you defer payment until you want to withdraw, you can already minimize your inputs by making fewer withdrawals, and the balance earns interest in top of it. What does FH do that is an improvement upon this (for someone unfamiliar like me)? I agree with your reasoning of the deferred payments, but as a FH user, I'll give you my input. There are many sites/faucets that allow for an earnings balance to be held in-game until you're ready to cashout. Even then, it's hard to save up any kind of considerable amount that makes it worthy enough to initiate a transaction to your address/wallet without incurring fees for when you are ready to SPEND those btc that you've earned. I like FH because it's an aggregator/consolidator for many of the faucets and sites that I visit. I can easily save up to my personal threshold of 0.01BTC before requesting one withdrawal, vs. the dozens and dozens of other withdrawals I would have had to request to total the same amount. "But, Joe, what does it matter? I don't mind paying the fees when I make a withdrawal from these faucets."The problem is when you try to SPEND those earnings. Your transaction size will become huge from the dusty inputs. At an average of 200sat/B, you're looking at a very healthy fee to be able to send an aggregated 0.01BTC that came from dozens, if not hundreds, of sources. I guess what I'm trying to say is that FaucetHUB is a great buffer between all of the web's more popular faucets and your wallet. It acts as a sort of "payment gateway" or mixer, in a sense. Does this answer your question? I could go on and on, but for the sake of keeping it simple, I'm going to stop it here lol And @wetsuit, I wouldn't mind having FaucetHUB as an option for withdrawal on your sites. BTC and DOGE ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Consider this another vote/request for FH to be implemented into your site. And I'm willing to bet that mex would work out a custom fee/cost structure for you, given your volume as the largest bitcoin faucet at the moment. That does make some sense, but how does FH afford to be an aggregator. If they have so many inputs coming in, and they just hold coins until users withdraw, the users may only have one input when they get their payment, but the total number of inputs has not gone down, it's just that FH has to pay for them all for first collecting all the dust transactions. Someone still has to pay it, how does FH afford it?
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May 16, 2017, 03:07:39 AM |
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I've got an odd question, could lottery tickets technically fall under 1 satoshi if bitcoin goes high enough? I've been watching it fall from 6 -> 5 -> 4.
What would happen then?
That could technically happen if the BTC price goes over $7,500. In that case, it will be fixed at 1 satoshi for the future. I take it based on this answer that it's a fixed conversion rate (variable based on the price of btc, but fixed vs usd)? In any event, wouldn't it still be possible for the rising price of Bitcoin to accommodate cheaper lottery tickets? A lottery ticket at 1 sat could be cheaper, for example buying 2 tickets for a satoshi, or 3 tickets for 2 sats, etc. This could also open the door for discounts on bulk purchases (buy 1,000, get 100 free!) or something like that. Bulk discounts might increase the amount of revenue generated from lotto ticket sales as people buy up to get a better deal.
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May 16, 2017, 03:39:22 PM |
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That does make some sense, but how does FH afford to be an aggregator. If they have so many inputs coming in, and they just hold coins until users withdraw, the users may only have one input when they get their payment, but the total number of inputs has not gone down, it's just that FH has to pay for them all for first collecting all the dust transactions. Someone still has to pay it, how does FH afford it?
I don't think there are any dust transactions involved. All the dust moving from the faucets to faucethub is just book money. All the small transactions of one faucet are added up at the end of the day or week and then only one large transaction goes from the faucet to the hub. Or as a prepaid model, the faucet owner pays into his hub account and all the dust collected is deducted from this balance.
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May 16, 2017, 05:20:49 PM |
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wetsuit, Myfe Can you explain me what does it means?
~SNIP~
This message comes when I try to browse/load freebitco.in by my phone browser a few minutes ago. What means this message?
Mahdirakib, I believe this may be an issue with your browser or network not allowing you to connect to the site. This can happen when networks (at an office for example) restrict access to sites related to blogs, gambling, social media, etc. I'm able to connect to FreeBitco.in without any issue. It sounds like holydarkness can as well. It's unlikely that holydarkness and I would be free from problem if this were a system issue with the site. Thanks for bringing it to our attention, we'll still investigate on our end. Cheers. Myfe.
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May 16, 2017, 05:46:14 PM Last edit: May 17, 2017, 04:16:34 AM by Mahdirakib |
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wetsuit, Myfe Can you explain me what does it means?
~SNIP~
This message comes when I try to browse/load freebitco.in by my phone browser a few minutes ago. What means this message?
Mahdirakib, I believe this may be an issue with your browser or network not allowing you to connect to the site. This can happen when networks (at an office for example) restrict access to sites related to blogs, gambling, social media, etc. I'm able to connect to FreeBitco.in without any issue. It sounds like holydarkness can as well. It's unlikely that holydarkness and I would be free from problem if this were a system issue with the site. Thanks for bringing it to our attention, we'll still investigate on our end. Cheers. Myfe. Now there is not the problem. I can also using the site as normal. Actually the problem has been solved after few times.
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SCAMSCAMSCAMFreebitco.in is Scam.....!!! I have told some of my friends to use freebitco.in faucet a few days ago. Eight ( of theme accept my proposal and started earning here. I have forbid all of theme to play multiply game and none of them play multiply game without free hourly roll. One of my friends account was blocked playing free hourly roll a few days ago I have also informed the matter "wetsuit" & "Myfe". But they do nothing.
But something big wrong happened here today. They have blocked all of my friends account from playing free hourly roll. Moreover they(freebitco.in) have stolen all the btc from all of my friends account. Why this happened? None of theme using vpn,proxy,wifi. All use their personal mobile phone to access your site. Same thing also happened with one more user but I he isn't in my friend list. We all contact with each other in Facebook and all informed me about this a few times ago. We all created new gmail account with same name(just changed the number) for create account in your site. See this proof of one account. User id's: 4588770, 4588166, 4588737, 4588679, 4588250, 4588210, 4588868 I will delete this comment if you give me the full solution,give theme the stolen btc back,the losses reward points and fixed the problem. Sure, everyone believes these accounts are your "friends" ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOJH3hgK.png&t=665&c=X8hKxZ7B8FcMrw) You main account which was used fairly was left intact. You even created all these accounts as referrals of a different account so that it couldn't be linked back to your main account. Also all the accounts were accessed from devices having the exact same browser fingerprint which is highly unlikely if they were being accessed from different devices.
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May 16, 2017, 06:18:08 PM |
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Yes. These are my friends account. And I have also told you that they all created new gmail account and same name for creating account freebitco.in. I have helped them to register all of these account by my phone but now they are using those accounts through their phone. Sure, everyone believes these accounts are your "friends" ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOJH3hgK.png&t=665&c=X8hKxZ7B8FcMrw) You main account which was used fairly was left intact. You even created all these accounts as referrals of a different account so that it couldn't be linked back to your main account. Also all the accounts were accessed from devices having the exact same browser fingerprint which is highly unlikely if they were being accessed from different devices. If you friends want to play they need to create their own accounts with their own email addresses and play on their own devices. What you have done here is a clear case of creating multiple accounts to abuse the free play game, each account playing within a few minutes of each other too. You also created an additional account to collect the referral commissions from your "friends". Why didn't you refer your "freinds" using your original account?
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May 16, 2017, 08:40:04 PM |
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SCAMSCAMSCAM ... I will delete this comment if you give me the full solution,give theme the stolen btc back,the losses reward points and fixed the problem.
Is this some kind of prank? You try to "outsmart the system" in the most stupidly obvious way and when you get caught you have the nerve to complain and throw around big words like "scam" and "steal"? This is ridiculous. Everybody knows you don't have 8 friends. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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May 16, 2017, 09:19:28 PM |
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Yes. These are my friends account. And I have also told you that they all created new gmail account and same name for creating account freebitco.in. I have helped them to register all of these account by my phone but now they are using those accounts through their phone. Sure, everyone believes these accounts are your "friends"
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You main account which was used fairly was left intact. You even created all these accounts as referrals of a different account so that it couldn't be linked back to your main account.
Also all the accounts were accessed from devices having the exact same browser fingerprint which is highly unlikely if they were being accessed from different devices. Nope. You got caught. wetsuit presented a pretty great case, with documentation, and everything. It's kind of peculiar that each of the accounts that you've "referred" play within minutes of each other, eh? Nice try, man. Time to tuck your tail and leave the thread. "scam"... hahaha nice try.
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May 17, 2017, 04:31:55 AM |
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Just a reminder...I still don't have my 1 BTC due to Wetsuit's lies.
MD
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May 17, 2017, 04:32:27 AM |
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That does make some sense, but how does FH afford to be an aggregator. If they have so many inputs coming in, and they just hold coins until users withdraw, the users may only have one input when they get their payment, but the total number of inputs has not gone down, it's just that FH has to pay for them all for first collecting all the dust transactions. Someone still has to pay it, how does FH afford it?
I don't think there are any dust transactions involved. All the dust moving from the faucets to faucethub is just book money. All the small transactions of one faucet are added up at the end of the day or week and then only one large transaction goes from the faucet to the hub. Or as a prepaid model, the faucet owner pays into his hub account and all the dust collected is deducted from this balance. Interesting. What's in it for the aggregator then? Are they taking a scrape of transactions as a fee? I don't see how they benefit. If they are taking a cut, doesn't that increase the cost to the faucet owner above what it would be if they were running the faucet themselves?
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May 17, 2017, 05:14:55 AM |
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Just a reminder...I still don't have my 1 BTC due to Wetsuit's lies.
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From my understanding, you deposited money to test the bonus promotion. Then you proceeded to gamble it via the multiplier because you weren't expecting the way that the deposit was handled on the website. So let me ask you this; why didn't you just try to get a withdrawal at the time, before you lost it all gambling? I have seen wetsuit pay a user back 77BTC before because of a mistake (that the user made; not wetsuit). But that user never gambled the money away. You did. Dude, just accept your loss and move on. No one's going to take your position on this one. If you wouldn't have gambled your deposit away, I could see getting behind you and getting your bitcoin back out. But simply put, you gambled it away. Nobody "made" you do that. You did it on your own.
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Mahdirakib
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Activity: 2016
Merit: 1041
In Search of Incredible
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May 17, 2017, 07:25:20 AM |
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Hi wetsuit, I am sorry for this replay. I am sorry for creating those fake accounts and call your website scam. I apologize for this. Just forget the matter please. Sure, everyone believes these accounts are your "friends" ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOJH3hgK.png&t=665&c=X8hKxZ7B8FcMrw) You main account which was used fairly was left intact. You even created all these accounts as referrals of a different account so that it couldn't be linked back to your main account. Also all the accounts were accessed from devices having the exact same browser fingerprint which is highly unlikely if they were being accessed from different devices.
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May 17, 2017, 08:43:03 AM |
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Hi wetsuit,
I am sorry for this replay. I am sorry for creating those fake accounts and call your website scam. I apologize for this. Just forget the matter please.
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Not to sound like a dick, but you should be banned from using faucets altogether. You are scum. Seriously. You're trying to game the system? @wetsuit, you're patient, man. If I were you, I would have just blacklisted his IP addresses from claiming altogether.
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