raskul
|
|
June 30, 2014, 10:04:26 AM |
|
In my experience, the Mac wallet isn't working... not on my Mavericks OS, at any rate... no problems whatsoever on OSX 10.9.3 Hmmmm... ok... I must have missed some kind of configuration step that I wasn't aware of, in that case... i didn't even need a .conf file, it stuck once on first load and has performed flawlessly since.
|
tips 1APp826DqjJBdsAeqpEstx6Q8hD4urac8a
|
|
|
walkdev
|
|
June 30, 2014, 10:11:01 AM |
|
(snip...) i didn't even need a .conf file, it stuck once on first load and has performed flawlessly since.
This is what I keep on getting in the crash report... Process: tekcoin-Qt [1118] Path: /Applications/tekcoin-Qt.app/Contents/MacOS/tekcoin-Qt Identifier: com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt Version: Huh Code Type: X86-64 (Native) Parent Process: launchd [421] Responsible: tekcoin-Qt [1118] User ID: 501
Date/Time: 2014-06-07 11:22:18.690 +0100 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.9.3 (13D65) Report Version: 11 Anonymous UUID: 54147D1B-ED14-E7C7-3EAA-5D0D14EA5399
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION (SIGILL) Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000
Application Specific Information: /Applications/tekcoin-Qt.app/Contents/MacOS/tekcoin-Qt
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 libcrypto.1.0.0.dylib 0x00000001033b42c0 RAND_add + 11 1 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101ae9048 RandAddSeed() + 56 2 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101b0da9f CInit::CInit() + 207 3 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101af0d63 CInit::CInit() + 35 4 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101af0874 __cxx_global_var_init22 + 20 5 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101af0a98 _GLOBAL__I_a + 104 6 dyld 0x00007fff6484dc2e ImageLoaderMachO::doModInitFunctions(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 268 7 dyld 0x00007fff6484ddba ImageLoaderMachO::doInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 40 8 dyld 0x00007fff6484aa62 ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 308 9 dyld 0x00007fff6484a8f6 ImageLoader::runInitializers(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 54 10 dyld 0x00007fff6483e1da dyld::initializeMainExecutable() + 189 11 dyld 0x00007fff64841560 dyld::_main(macho_header const*, unsigned long, int, char const**, char const**, char const**, unsigned long*) + 2419 12 dyld 0x00007fff6483d27b dyldbootstrap::start(macho_header const*, int, char const**, long, macho_header const*, unsigned long*) + 477 13 dyld 0x00007fff6483d05e _dyld_start + 54
|
|
|
|
raskul
|
|
June 30, 2014, 10:14:17 AM |
|
(snip...) i didn't even need a .conf file, it stuck once on first load and has performed flawlessly since.
This is what I keep on getting in the crash report...
[size=8pt]Process: tekcoin-Qt [1118] Path: /Applications/tekcoin-Qt.app/Contents/MacOS/tekcoin-Qt Identifier: com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt Version: Huh Code Type: X86-64 (Native) Parent Process: launchd [421] Responsible: tekcoin-Qt [1118] User ID: 501
Date/Time: 2014-06-07 11:22:18.690 +0100 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.9.3 (13D65) Report Version: 11 Anonymous UUID: 54147D1B-ED14-E7C7-3EAA-5D0D14EA5399
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION (SIGILL) Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000
Application Specific Information: /Applications/tekcoin-Qt.app/Contents/MacOS/tekcoin-Qt
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 libcrypto.1.0.0.dylib 0x00000001033b42c0 RAND_add + 11 1 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101ae9048 RandAddSeed() + 56 2 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101b0da9f CInit::CInit() + 207 3 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101af0d63 CInit::CInit() + 35 4 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101af0874 __cxx_global_var_init22 + 20 5 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101af0a98 _GLOBAL__I_a + 104 6 dyld 0x00007fff6484dc2e ImageLoaderMachO::doModInitFunctions(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 268 7 dyld 0x00007fff6484ddba ImageLoaderMachO::doInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 40 8 dyld 0x00007fff6484aa62 ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 308 9 dyld 0x00007fff6484a8f6 ImageLoader::runInitializers(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 54 10 dyld 0x00007fff6483e1da dyld::initializeMainExecutable() + 189 11 dyld 0x00007fff64841560 dyld::_main(macho_header const*, unsigned long, int, char const**, char const**, char const**, unsigned long*) + 2419 12 dyld 0x00007fff6483d27b dyldbootstrap::start(macho_header const*, int, char const**, long, macho_header const*, unsigned long*) + 477 13 dyld 0x00007fff6483d05e _dyld_start + 54[/size] try this; http://www.ccount.co.uk/tekcoin-1.2.0.0-macosx.dmg
|
tips 1APp826DqjJBdsAeqpEstx6Q8hD4urac8a
|
|
|
walkdev
|
|
June 30, 2014, 10:16:12 AM |
|
(snip...) i didn't even need a .conf file, it stuck once on first load and has performed flawlessly since.
This is what I keep on getting in the crash report...
[size=8pt]Process: tekcoin-Qt [1118] Path: /Applications/tekcoin-Qt.app/Contents/MacOS/tekcoin-Qt Identifier: com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt Version: Huh Code Type: X86-64 (Native) Parent Process: launchd [421] Responsible: tekcoin-Qt [1118] User ID: 501
Date/Time: 2014-06-07 11:22:18.690 +0100 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.9.3 (13D65) Report Version: 11 Anonymous UUID: 54147D1B-ED14-E7C7-3EAA-5D0D14EA5399
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION (SIGILL) Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000
Application Specific Information: /Applications/tekcoin-Qt.app/Contents/MacOS/tekcoin-Qt
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 libcrypto.1.0.0.dylib 0x00000001033b42c0 RAND_add + 11 1 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101ae9048 RandAddSeed() + 56 2 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101b0da9f CInit::CInit() + 207 3 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101af0d63 CInit::CInit() + 35 4 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101af0874 __cxx_global_var_init22 + 20 5 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101af0a98 _GLOBAL__I_a + 104 6 dyld 0x00007fff6484dc2e ImageLoaderMachO::doModInitFunctions(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 268 7 dyld 0x00007fff6484ddba ImageLoaderMachO::doInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 40 8 dyld 0x00007fff6484aa62 ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 308 9 dyld 0x00007fff6484a8f6 ImageLoader::runInitializers(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 54 10 dyld 0x00007fff6483e1da dyld::initializeMainExecutable() + 189 11 dyld 0x00007fff64841560 dyld::_main(macho_header const*, unsigned long, int, char const**, char const**, char const**, unsigned long*) + 2419 12 dyld 0x00007fff6483d27b dyldbootstrap::start(macho_header const*, int, char const**, long, macho_header const*, unsigned long*) + 477 13 dyld 0x00007fff6483d05e _dyld_start + 54[/size] try this; http://www.ccount.co.uk/tekcoin-1.2.0.0-macosx.dmgMany thanks, raskul - Will do, and will report when I've done it... Won't be able to do it until later on today, though!
|
|
|
|
raskul
|
|
June 30, 2014, 10:20:43 AM |
|
(snip...) i didn't even need a .conf file, it stuck once on first load and has performed flawlessly since.
This is what I keep on getting in the crash report...
[size=8pt]Process: tekcoin-Qt [1118] Path: /Applications/tekcoin-Qt.app/Contents/MacOS/tekcoin-Qt Identifier: com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt Version: Huh Code Type: X86-64 (Native) Parent Process: launchd [421] Responsible: tekcoin-Qt [1118] User ID: 501
Date/Time: 2014-06-07 11:22:18.690 +0100 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.9.3 (13D65) Report Version: 11 Anonymous UUID: 54147D1B-ED14-E7C7-3EAA-5D0D14EA5399
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION (SIGILL) Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000
Application Specific Information: /Applications/tekcoin-Qt.app/Contents/MacOS/tekcoin-Qt
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 libcrypto.1.0.0.dylib 0x00000001033b42c0 RAND_add + 11 1 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101ae9048 RandAddSeed() + 56 2 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101b0da9f CInit::CInit() + 207 3 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101af0d63 CInit::CInit() + 35 4 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101af0874 __cxx_global_var_init22 + 20 5 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101af0a98 _GLOBAL__I_a + 104 6 dyld 0x00007fff6484dc2e ImageLoaderMachO::doModInitFunctions(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 268 7 dyld 0x00007fff6484ddba ImageLoaderMachO::doInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 40 8 dyld 0x00007fff6484aa62 ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 308 9 dyld 0x00007fff6484a8f6 ImageLoader::runInitializers(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 54 10 dyld 0x00007fff6483e1da dyld::initializeMainExecutable() + 189 11 dyld 0x00007fff64841560 dyld::_main(macho_header const*, unsigned long, int, char const**, char const**, char const**, unsigned long*) + 2419 12 dyld 0x00007fff6483d27b dyldbootstrap::start(macho_header const*, int, char const**, long, macho_header const*, unsigned long*) + 477 13 dyld 0x00007fff6483d05e _dyld_start + 54[/size] try this; http://www.ccount.co.uk/tekcoin-1.2.0.0-macosx.dmgMany thanks, raskul - Will do, and will report when I've done it... Won't be able to do it until later on today, though! no worries, hope it works for ye
|
tips 1APp826DqjJBdsAeqpEstx6Q8hD4urac8a
|
|
|
Tupsu
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1003
|
|
June 30, 2014, 10:57:10 AM |
|
Nice. This clearly shows that the MINING of TEK is sometimes pointless. I mined only 1977 TEK, before it got to understand. Every day should be mined only 1440 TEK Net Hashrate 25-50TH/s Mining BTC- Your approximate maximum potential earnings at the current network difficulty of 16,818,461,371.16 and maintaining your 3-hour average hash rate of 8,819.71 Gh/s is 0.26373152 BTC per day. This makes 400 TEK at price 0.00065 I bought today TEK at a price 0.00055200 Now I mine BTC to buy more TEK 4 days ago I sold TEK at price 0.001
|
|
|
|
gyntas
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
|
|
June 30, 2014, 11:00:30 AM |
|
OK, TEK pool on CentralCavern has been moved to it's own dedicated server - the problem was caused by other coin pools draining resources. As TEK is our most highly regarded coin, we are content to give it a space of it's own http://tek.centralcavern.uk is now stable and miners are hashing away happily. apologies for any inconvenience the last hour may have caused, and best luck to Wich wallet need use for TEK, or BTC wallet its ok ?Thanks no, you will find both windows and mac wallets on the OP source: https://github.com/maxxine/TEKI am use,,xubuntu,, , any links for this .Thanks windows https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0M-bp2HC0eYZHU0a3B2NFFzQVU/edit?usp=sharingMac wallet: http://tek.blockx.info/tekcoin-1.2.0.0-macosx.dmgIn my experience, the Mac wallet isn't working... not on my Mavericks OS, at any rate... no problems whatsoever on OSX 10.9.3 http://www.centralcavern.uk/img/tekmac.jpg
|
|
|
|
gyntas
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
|
|
June 30, 2014, 11:31:18 AM |
|
I got ,, xubuntu,, , any links for this.Thanks
|
|
|
|
raskul
|
|
June 30, 2014, 11:49:39 AM |
|
I got ,, xubuntu,, , any links for this.Thanks i think you need to compile it from the source ^
|
tips 1APp826DqjJBdsAeqpEstx6Q8hD4urac8a
|
|
|
gyntas
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
|
|
June 30, 2014, 11:53:01 AM |
|
I got ,, xubuntu,, , any links for this.Thanks i think you need to compile it from the source ^ Thanks
|
|
|
|
walkdev
|
|
June 30, 2014, 03:22:44 PM |
|
(snip...) i didn't even need a .conf file, it stuck once on first load and has performed flawlessly since.
This is what I keep on getting in the crash report...
[size=8pt]Process: tekcoin-Qt [1118] Path: /Applications/tekcoin-Qt.app/Contents/MacOS/tekcoin-Qt Identifier: com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt Version: Huh Code Type: X86-64 (Native) Parent Process: launchd [421] Responsible: tekcoin-Qt [1118] User ID: 501
Date/Time: 2014-06-07 11:22:18.690 +0100 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.9.3 (13D65) Report Version: 11 Anonymous UUID: 54147D1B-ED14-E7C7-3EAA-5D0D14EA5399
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION (SIGILL) Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000
Application Specific Information: /Applications/tekcoin-Qt.app/Contents/MacOS/tekcoin-Qt
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 libcrypto.1.0.0.dylib 0x00000001033b42c0 RAND_add + 11 1 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101ae9048 RandAddSeed() + 56 2 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101b0da9f CInit::CInit() + 207 3 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101af0d63 CInit::CInit() + 35 4 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101af0874 __cxx_global_var_init22 + 20 5 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101af0a98 _GLOBAL__I_a + 104 6 dyld 0x00007fff6484dc2e ImageLoaderMachO::doModInitFunctions(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 268 7 dyld 0x00007fff6484ddba ImageLoaderMachO::doInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 40 8 dyld 0x00007fff6484aa62 ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 308 9 dyld 0x00007fff6484a8f6 ImageLoader::runInitializers(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 54 10 dyld 0x00007fff6483e1da dyld::initializeMainExecutable() + 189 11 dyld 0x00007fff64841560 dyld::_main(macho_header const*, unsigned long, int, char const**, char const**, char const**, unsigned long*) + 2419 12 dyld 0x00007fff6483d27b dyldbootstrap::start(macho_header const*, int, char const**, long, macho_header const*, unsigned long*) + 477 13 dyld 0x00007fff6483d05e _dyld_start + 54[/size] try this; http://www.ccount.co.uk/tekcoin-1.2.0.0-macosx.dmgMany thanks, raskul - Will do, and will report when I've done it... Won't be able to do it until later on today, though! no worries, hope it works for ye No joy... I have no idea why my Mac should behave any differently to any others!
|
|
|
|
raskul
|
|
June 30, 2014, 03:25:24 PM |
|
(snip...) i didn't even need a .conf file, it stuck once on first load and has performed flawlessly since.
This is what I keep on getting in the crash report...
[size=8pt]Process: tekcoin-Qt [1118] Path: /Applications/tekcoin-Qt.app/Contents/MacOS/tekcoin-Qt Identifier: com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt Version: Huh Code Type: X86-64 (Native) Parent Process: launchd [421] Responsible: tekcoin-Qt [1118] User ID: 501
Date/Time: 2014-06-07 11:22:18.690 +0100 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.9.3 (13D65) Report Version: 11 Anonymous UUID: 54147D1B-ED14-E7C7-3EAA-5D0D14EA5399
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION (SIGILL) Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000
Application Specific Information: /Applications/tekcoin-Qt.app/Contents/MacOS/tekcoin-Qt
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 libcrypto.1.0.0.dylib 0x00000001033b42c0 RAND_add + 11 1 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101ae9048 RandAddSeed() + 56 2 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101b0da9f CInit::CInit() + 207 3 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101af0d63 CInit::CInit() + 35 4 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101af0874 __cxx_global_var_init22 + 20 5 com.yourcompany.tekcoin-Qt 0x0000000101af0a98 _GLOBAL__I_a + 104 6 dyld 0x00007fff6484dc2e ImageLoaderMachO::doModInitFunctions(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 268 7 dyld 0x00007fff6484ddba ImageLoaderMachO::doInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 40 8 dyld 0x00007fff6484aa62 ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 308 9 dyld 0x00007fff6484a8f6 ImageLoader::runInitializers(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 54 10 dyld 0x00007fff6483e1da dyld::initializeMainExecutable() + 189 11 dyld 0x00007fff64841560 dyld::_main(macho_header const*, unsigned long, int, char const**, char const**, char const**, unsigned long*) + 2419 12 dyld 0x00007fff6483d27b dyldbootstrap::start(macho_header const*, int, char const**, long, macho_header const*, unsigned long*) + 477 13 dyld 0x00007fff6483d05e _dyld_start + 54[/size] try this; http://www.ccount.co.uk/tekcoin-1.2.0.0-macosx.dmgMany thanks, raskul - Will do, and will report when I've done it... Won't be able to do it until later on today, though! no worries, hope it works for ye No joy... I have no idea why my Mac should behave any differently to any others! strange, sorry I couldn'y help... I thought hosting the dmg file that I used would solve it
|
tips 1APp826DqjJBdsAeqpEstx6Q8hD4urac8a
|
|
|
walkdev
|
|
June 30, 2014, 03:41:09 PM |
|
I can only imagine it's something to do with the internal workings of OS X... Some security setting or something. Or it's trying to write to a folder that maybe doesn't exist or needs admin permissions to access... I THINK I've checked all that though. Strange, because some coins' QT files work okay...
|
|
|
|
cazze
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
|
|
June 30, 2014, 04:49:47 PM |
|
I think the bubble is popping. It will recover, be patient. Cheap TEK now, i like it :-)
|
|
|
|
raskul
|
|
June 30, 2014, 04:54:09 PM |
|
I think the bubble is popping. It will recover, be patient. Cheap TEK now, i like it :-) i did it. you're welcome. (i have my reasons) lol
|
tips 1APp826DqjJBdsAeqpEstx6Q8hD4urac8a
|
|
|
raskul
|
|
June 30, 2014, 04:57:47 PM |
|
I think the bubble is popping. It will recover, be patient. Cheap TEK now, i like it :-) i did it. you're welcome. (i have my reasons) lol What did you do sold some TEK. and now i'm buying again
|
tips 1APp826DqjJBdsAeqpEstx6Q8hD4urac8a
|
|
|
raskul
|
|
June 30, 2014, 05:03:40 PM |
|
I think the bubble is popping. It will recover, be patient. Cheap TEK now, i like it :-) i did it. you're welcome. (i have my reasons) lol What did you do sold some TEK. and now i'm buying again If you are buying again does that mean the reasons for selling were not because of faith in tekcoin and are personal reasons? sold to buy stuff, that's all... TEK is still my no1 choice. don't worry, price will rise again
|
tips 1APp826DqjJBdsAeqpEstx6Q8hD4urac8a
|
|
|
walkdev
|
|
June 30, 2014, 05:22:17 PM |
|
Thinking about it, what use is it if everyone just hoards their coins? 40% stake is worth nothing if you don't USE it from time to time! So people shouldn't be too concerned if others sell some coins from time to time. Just take the opportunity to pick them up cheap if the price dips, that's all! But if you DO sell, just don't do it all at once! hahaha!
|
|
|
|
armin22
|
|
June 30, 2014, 05:27:41 PM |
|
Ive got 1070 tek sell up, feel free to buy that xD
|
|
|
|
Biomech
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1022
Anarchy is not chaos.
|
|
June 30, 2014, 05:33:58 PM |
|
I think the bubble is popping. It will recover, be patient. Cheap TEK now, i like it :-) i did it. you're welcome. (i have my reasons) lol What did you do sold some TEK. and now i'm buying again If you are buying again does that mean the reasons for selling were not because of faith in tekcoin and are personal reasons? sold to buy stuff, that's all... TEK is still my no1 choice. don't worry, price will rise again Let me chime in on this: What raskul did is actually good for the coin in the long run. If all it does is accumulate, sooner or later it will devalue. But when stakeholders sell some to buy stuff, this SUPPORTS the tek ecosystem, and not indirectly. There has not, as yet, been a lot of focus on mercantile acceptance of this coin. This in it's early stages is probably a good thing, as the coin was being developed and distributed. Now, it has value. Its one of the higher valued coins in the crypto world, and unlike a lot of much more hyped coins, it actually works as advertised. Of course, its more profitable at this point to stake than mine, so that makes it MORE valuable in that we generally don't want to part with it, but eventually it must circulate or be worthless. EDIT: I see Walkdev ninja'd me
|
|
|
|
|