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I am Registered old user at freebitco.in website , Some times when I Reset my Modem due to NEtwork issue I Getting this Error
Sorry, this IP address has been blocked from playing the FREE PLAY game. You may continue to use the rest of the website as normal.
I have Earned Many Free satoshi from my Referrals But now i I am not able to Play from some days , Can someone tell me why this happens
just make 500 rolls on autobet with minimum bet
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I was always wondering how do people make this work? I've never managed to make a single referral link work, no one ever wanted to use my referrals and at the same time I see that some people create thousands of working referrals. Is there anyone here who earns a lot on referrals? Can you share your experience?
For example in the STATS section on freebitco.in we can see a person has 84,786 referrals and earned 24 BTC in commissions from that. How's that possible?
It's not easy job to get many referrals. People promoting reflinks on their websites. If your website is popular, you may get many referrals. Also, people spamming on various forums, social networks and etc. But I only have few hundreds referrals. I can't imagine how that person got almost 85k referrals. But still you have hundreds of referrals, wow, man, good job! How much do you earn from them? Not much, maybe somewhere between 80-100k satoshi per week. It's really hard to get active referrals. Majority of them only make few claims a day and they stop to use faucet after few days or weeks. From all these my referrals, only 20-30 are more or less active.
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I was always wondering how do people make this work? I've never managed to make a single referral link work, no one ever wanted to use my referrals and at the same time I see that some people create thousands of working referrals. Is there anyone here who earns a lot on referrals? Can you share your experience?
For example in the STATS section on freebitco.in we can see a person has 84,786 referrals and earned 24 BTC in commissions from that. How's that possible?
It's not easy job to get many referrals. People promoting reflinks on their websites. If your website is popular, you may get many referrals. Also, people spamming on various forums, social networks and etc. But I only have few hundreds referrals. I can't imagine how that person got almost 85k referrals. But still you have hundreds of referrals, wow, man, good job! How much do you earn from them? ~ Create a website with a page showing people how to make money online. Add a bunch of links with your referral to faucet sites you use. Let's just call it Faucet rotators. People are always looking for ways to make money online.... eventually they will end up on your site. Post the link to your site on forums and other social media platforms and soon you will see 1000s of people joining your referral network. Thanks for your suggestions, but you know it's hard to do in reality. There are many sites like you described already and I doubt people will visit another similar site let alone they will use referral links from there. But maybe I'm just lazy, always making up excuses for not trying to do something, and someone who will use your advice will get tons of referrals. Yea, most people are lazy, but doing this will create a passive income from this method. Why? Well you do the hard work in the beginning by recruiting these referrals and then they use the faucet and generate the income for you. The problem is, faucets have a huge dropout rate, so you will constantly have to recruit people to make sure you have "active" users coming in. ..... lift ya ass and start recruiting.
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I was always wondering how do people make this work? I've never managed to make a single referral link work, no one ever wanted to use my referrals and at the same time I see that some people create thousands of working referrals. Is there anyone here who earns a lot on referrals? Can you share your experience?
For example in the STATS section on freebitco.in we can see a person has 84,786 referrals and earned 24 BTC in commissions from that. How's that possible?
It's not easy job to get many referrals. People promoting reflinks on their websites. If your website is popular, you may get many referrals. Also, people spamming on various forums, social networks and etc. But I only have few hundreds referrals. I can't imagine how that person got almost 85k referrals. But still you have hundreds of referrals, wow, man, good job! How much do you earn from them? ~ Create a website with a page showing people how to make money online. Add a bunch of links with your referral to faucet sites you use. Let's just call it Faucet rotators. People are always looking for ways to make money online.... eventually they will end up on your site. Post the link to your site on forums and other social media platforms and soon you will see 1000s of people joining your referral network. Thanks for your suggestions, but you know it's hard to do in reality. There are many sites like you described already and I doubt people will visit another similar site let alone they will use referral links from there. But maybe I'm just lazy, always making up excuses for not trying to do something, and someone who will use your advice will get tons of referrals. Yea, most people are lazy, but doing this will create a passive income from this method. Why? Well you do the hard work in the beginning by recruiting these referrals and then they use the faucet and generate the income for you. The problem is, faucets have a huge dropout rate, so you will constantly have to recruit people to make sure you have "active" users coming in. ..... lift ya ass and start recruiting. When you need to put an effort constantly to get more referrals, then it is not called a passive income. Your earning because your putting effort and passive income mean one time you do the hard work and should get earnings for a long period without any further efforts. Since faucet money per claim has reduced a lot due to price rise, many people will not stick to these faucet sites and they will find better ways to earn money. So it is not worth to spend a time to get referrals for small profits.
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Holy Sh*t, we've already commenced a HUGE Rewards Points bonus weekend >>>>> 3x Rewards Points starts tonight!For the entire weekend, we'll pay you 6 Rewards Points for a free roll, 3 Rewards Points for a multiply roll activity exceeding 1500 satoshi, and 3 Rewards Points for a referral roll! Follow us on Twitter to get more announcements of great promotions > https://twitter.com/freebitco
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June 24, 2017, 02:59:31 AM |
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Holy Sh*t, we've already commenced a HUGE Rewards Points bonus weekend >>>>> 3x Rewards Points starts tonight!For the entire week, we'll pay you 6 Rewards Points for a free roll, 3 Rewards Points for a multiply roll activity exceeding 1500 satoshi, and 3 Rewards Points for a referral roll! Follow us on Twitter to get more announcements of great promotions > https://twitter.com/freebitcoYeah, this is really great job that you increasing the reward point till 3x but the problem here, i do not know that whether someone that already get the gadgets yet or not from exchange their reward point. Because i always follow this thread and there is nothing that i can really get from this information or may be i skipped it. May be you could tell me and others whether the shipping is success or not
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June 24, 2017, 08:42:37 AM |
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I was always wondering how do people make this work? I've never managed to make a single referral link work, no one ever wanted to use my referrals and at the same time I see that some people create thousands of working referrals. Is there anyone here who earns a lot on referrals? Can you share your experience?
For example in the STATS section on freebitco.in we can see a person has 84,786 referrals and earned 24 BTC in commissions from that. How's that possible?
It's not easy job to get many referrals. People promoting reflinks on their websites. If your website is popular, you may get many referrals. Also, people spamming on various forums, social networks and etc. But I only have few hundreds referrals. I can't imagine how that person got almost 85k referrals. But still you have hundreds of referrals, wow, man, good job! How much do you earn from them? ~ Create a website with a page showing people how to make money online. Add a bunch of links with your referral to faucet sites you use. Let's just call it Faucet rotators. People are always looking for ways to make money online.... eventually they will end up on your site. Post the link to your site on forums and other social media platforms and soon you will see 1000s of people joining your referral network. Thanks for your suggestions, but you know it's hard to do in reality. There are many sites like you described already and I doubt people will visit another similar site let alone they will use referral links from there. But maybe I'm just lazy, always making up excuses for not trying to do something, and someone who will use your advice will get tons of referrals. Yea, most people are lazy, but doing this will create a passive income from this method. Why? Well you do the hard work in the beginning by recruiting these referrals and then they use the faucet and generate the income for you. The problem is, faucets have a huge dropout rate, so you will constantly have to recruit people to make sure you have "active" users coming in. ..... lift ya ass and start recruiting. When you need to put an effort constantly to get more referrals, then it is not called a passive income. Your earning because your putting effort and passive income mean one time you do the hard work and should get earnings for a long period without any further efforts. Since faucet money per claim has reduced a lot due to price rise, many people will not stick to these faucet sites and they will find better ways to earn money. So it is not worth to spend a time to get referrals for small profits. That's what I'm thinking too. Like LTU_btc said in his reply: ~ But still you have hundreds of referrals, wow, man, good job! How much do you earn from them?
Not much, maybe somewhere between 80-100k satoshi per week. It's really hard to get active referrals. Majority of them only make few claims a day and they stop to use faucet after few days or weeks. From all these my referrals, only 20-30 are more or less active. Just imagine how hard it would be to get hundreds of referrals and what you get for the efforts is 80-100k satoshis per week. I'd rather do something else to earn 100k satoshis. But nevertheless the site is great, because it's already proved that you can win $200 with click of a mouse on their free rolls.
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Holy Sh*t, we've already commenced a HUGE Rewards Points bonus weekend >>>>> 3x Rewards Points starts tonight!For the entire week, we'll pay you 6 Rewards Points for a free roll, 3 Rewards Points for a multiply roll activity exceeding 1500 satoshi, and 3 Rewards Points for a referral roll! Follow us on Twitter to get more announcements of great promotions > https://twitter.com/freebitcoYeah, this is really great job that you increasing the reward point till 3x but the problem here, i do not know that whether someone that already get the gadgets yet or not from exchange their reward point. Because i always follow this thread and there is nothing that i can really get from this information or may be i skipped it. May be you could tell me and others whether the shipping is success or not We have had many redemptions - a lot of hardware wallets, couple of headphones, VR headsets, GoPro's, Fitbits and 1 iPhone 7 and 1 galaxy s6 awaiting the shipping address. The most popular items seem to be the gift cards though.
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June 24, 2017, 09:35:19 AM Last edit: June 24, 2017, 06:53:38 PM by marlboroza |
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Anybody can post their idea to claim the 1 BTC reward. Food2 had pm'med me with this idea and I asked him to post here to claim ownership of the idea publicly in case somebody else also thinks of the same thing and I pick this method for doing the lottery.
I have an idea! Grab a camera and do live rolling. That will convince everyone that your lottery is fair, right? BTW i don't understand how 1 player can win only one prize.
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June 24, 2017, 09:39:03 AM |
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~snip~ But you can increase your FREE BTC rewards with the reward points. My reply wasn't about how to get lottery tickets.
Oh, silly me, i thought i can get +1500 satoshi every hour as a reward for wagering and/or buying tickets without using reward points. I should wear glasses. But what is this 79 satoshi bonus and 28.83% achieved? ~blah~
Please read how provably fair system works About 2 to 3 years ago 1000+ Satoshi per hour was the average pay out for this faucet. Even then people complained about the pay out being too little. Examples of some of my withdrawals : 2014-11-06 12:49:29 -------> 0.00300000 BTC 2015-06-14 04:52:09 -------> 0.00427200 BTC 2015-07-19 02:56:08 -------> 0.00061509 BTC These was paid out on a weekly basis and has some value now. So the 100 some odd Satoshi you earn per free roll now, might have some value in the future too. I absolutely agree with this, when Bitcoin hits $10k, which is quite possible in the nearest future, those 80 sats which we get as the minimum reward there will not look as small as it is now. And yes, I remember the times when BTC was under $200 and they were paying 1000+ Satoshis per hour. I also was withdrawing more than 100k sats per week back then. That is my point.... People will go back to these faucets in search of those lost Satoshi's they had in these faucets. I am a big believer in people forfeiting their Satoshi's when they have not claimed them within a year from the faucet. {Yes, the owner have control over these "lost" Satoshi, but people should be a bit more responsible with their small change} The big secret to the success of faucets are not the odd 80 Satoshi's you get from the FREE BTC, but rather from the Satoshi they get from the referral network. I was always wondering how do people make this work? I've never managed to make a single referral link work, no one ever wanted to use my referrals and at the same time I see that some people create thousands of working referrals. Is there anyone here who earns a lot on referrals? Can you share your experience? For example in the STATS section on freebitco.in we can see a person has 84,786 referrals and earned 24 BTC in commissions from that. How's that possible? I'm sure that's a record since freebitco.in opening. I mean, he has many referrals because maybe he is one of the people that register on freebico.in when this site not big like now. That's sick though a person have that many referrals. I'm sure he can earn a living by only from that referrals. Imagine if all his referrals is active everyday.
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I can sell account 34refs
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Unable to Understand the concept of This following shown in my account
Bonus +0.00000962 BTC added to all rewards!
Play MULTIPLY BTC or buy lottery tickets to increase your FREE BTC rewards by up to +0.00001406 BTC
88.3229% achieved towards the next +0.00000074 BTC bonus!
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Sorry about the delay with this, I have just gone through all the lottery drawing ideas and this is the best one I found mainly because I don't have to store 200 million+ ticket numbers for each round and the "window" system for picking winners is what I already use. I have a few modifications to this idea though to make it easier to verify and implement. So, this is how the lottery will work with my modifications: 1) Before a lottery round starts, a server seed will be generated and it's hash will be provided. 2) After a lottery round is concluded, a list of user id's and tickets will be produced in a text file ordered by ascending user id's. This order will be used to create the "ticket-windows" as Zhor and edge777 have described below. 3) Then a tweet will be made to our twitter account containing the following: - A future bitcoin block number that has not yet been mined. The block hash of this block will be used as the client seed. This block will be at least 3 blocks in the future.
- The link to the text file in 2.
- A MD5 hash of the text file in 2 to verify that the contents of the text file have not been modified since posting. If the contents of the file change, it will produce a different MD5 hash which will not match the one provided originally.
Twitter is ideal for this because it will provide a timestamp that can be verified to check that the block number provided is in the future. Also, tweets cannot be edited, only deleted so if I delete the original tweet and post a new one after the block has been mined, it will have a timestamp greater than the timestamp of the block used for the client seed. 4) The server seed, block hash and an incrementing nonce will be used to draw the 10 lottery winners. Please let me know if this can be exploited in any way or if it needs clarification. I believe this is the easiest implementation that can also be verified quickly by users. I am still open to ideas until I proceed with implementing this (in the next few weeks) so please post your ideas and if something better comes along, I'll use that. If not, the reward will be divided equally between edge77 and Zhor. The original idea is below. well, hello everybody from bitcointalk, i bumped into this forum searching for information about the new free-roll bonus. I saw wetsuits post asking about a provably fair lottery. I would love to make the lottery provably fair but unfortunately there is no method of doing so as far as I know. Hence, I have done the next best thing which is to offer users a chance to opt out of the lottery and receive reward points instead if they feel the lottery is rigged. You can do this from the PROFILE page.
I willl offer 1 BTC to anybody who can provide me with a way to make the lottery provably fair in issuing tickets and picking out winners. The system described should be able to handle hundreds of millions of tickets and verification for users should be fairly easy and straightforward. You can post your ideas here and I'll go through them and reward the idea that we use.
Both the free roll and the dice game are provably fair and the website will be going completely ad-free as of today.
first of all, i have to say that i liked edge77's idea about converting ticket counts to ticket-windows. You can design a system something like this: Let's say, Person A bought 5,000 tickets, Person B bought 9,000 tickets, Person C bought 50,000 and Person D bought 1,17,000 tickets
User A : 5,000 tickets User B : 9,000 tickets User C : 50,000 tickets User D : 1,17,000 tickets
Combined, total tickets : 1,81,000 Generate a random number between 0 and 1,81,000 [note by Zhor: this should be 180,999]
Set a windows like below :
0-5,000--- User A wins [note: again, 0-4999] 5,000-14,000--- User B wins [note: 5000 - 13,999. you get the point.] 9,000-64,000--- User C wins 64,000-1,81,000 ---User D wins // User D with most tickets has the largest window ...
the problem with that system is, that it is *not* provably fair, even though the "random number" chosen to pick the winner could be provably fair picked. In the example above, a user could say, that the order of the windows (first user A, then B) has been manipulated so that the "right" user wins. This is why i have come up with an adaption to get this system fully provable. The idea is, we would need "public" knowledge about the exact amount of tickets each user had at the end of the lottery and about the order of the "ticket-windows". If we simply publish the order of windows at the beginning of the lottery and add the number of tickets of each user at the end of the lottery-period, everything would be fine. But i assume that it is no good idea to publish all these information, since anybody could find out a lot of interesting things, like how many users have below 1000 tickets, who are the top 10 of players with the most tickets and much more. Imagine you knew the exact amount of tickets of all users for each lottery. you can even track the activity of every user. Thats why we are going to hash these information and only publish the hashes. To prove that the order of ticket-windows has not been altered after the drawing, we will create a "client(s)-seed" out of hashes of 3-tupels (UserID:FirstTicketNumber:TicketCount) of EVERY user. Lets have a look at the steps of the whole system: 1. publish hashed serverseed at the beginning of lottery-period [and nonce] 2. wait for the ending of lottery period 3. create ticket windows for every user (á la edge77) 4. send 3-tupel and hashed 3-tupel to every user (UserID:FirstTicketNumber:TicketCount) 5. publish all hashed 3-tupels 6. condense (hash again) all hashed 3-tupels into client-seed (to get an appropriate length) [and publish client-seed] 7. use server-seed and client seed to pick a provably fair random number. look up matching ticket-window and user (who wins!) 8. publish server-seed this is only for one tier of lottery winners. to adapt this for 10 winners, we should probably add a nonce to the client- and server-seeds and count this up as we roll (at least) 9 more numbers. If we roll a user who already has won a bigger price, just reroll with nonce+1 again. using this system, we can prove to any user: a) that the server-seed has been chosen at the beginning of the lottery-period. (same as in free roll and multiply roll) b) that his position in the list of ticket windows has been picked *before* choosing the winning number. to prove b) the user has received his own 3-tupel of his UserID, the number of his first Ticket (in the example of edge77 this would be 0 for User A, 5000 for user B, 9000 for User C and 64 000 for User D), and the amount of his tickets. he can now hash this 3-tupel by himself and search for that hash in the public list of all 3-tupel-hashes (see step 5!). for example his hash could look like this: 344fbaff44ddcd7ca5d65b0324f4c40d01af30a5e7fabd4a18d69f80e4fa521f now the list of all these 3-tupel hashes could look like this: ...:35fe8b392f1b2dfbc4745e52bba71750452f7a911e8d4cb31dd9ade427bf905b:344fbaff44ddcd7ca5d65b0324f4c40d01af30a5e7fabd4a18d69f80e4fa521f:347bb84f4d5260e8e1e1b759834df0095ee6e2225c31fdc8c5b060a637f36a16:... and that list has been hashed to the final (public) clients-seed: ccb686936c6d0f33b97bc7d2b18db2f639381387c3ec813a11981b39d139d48b he should find HIS has in the list of 3-tupels hashes and he should be able to hash the list of 3-tupel hashes into the client-seed. that will verify that his position and amount of tickets were used to create the winning-number. however if you want to verify that USER XYZ indeed won the first price, you only need to publish his 3-tupel (UserID:FirstTicketNumber:TicketCount). anybody can then verify that this user indeed had the ticket-window that the winning number fell into, by finding his hash in the list of all 3-tupel-hashes. for 2-nd price or 3rd price everybody knows that the nonce will be altered (+1 for 2nd price, +2 for third price and so on...) so what do you guys think? is this too complicated? does it have security flaws? is it too much of edge77's idea? or is it not "convincing" enough? also i humbly ask for your forgiveness if you find any spelling or grammar mistakes, since i am not a native english speaker.
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Has anybody from here ever redeemed something solid(comp. hardware/Gadgets etc.) from their reward points system? That feature is one of my talking points in trying to get a referral.
This questions I have been asked for long time ago but no one replies mine. Last time I saw someone claimed their gadget and talking about shipping here but after that, there is no news about it whether he already get his items or not. Need wetsuit to confirmed it once again. Yes, you need some active referrals here to increase your reward points and may be you can burn some money here to get 3 or 4 reward point on each wagered
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Has anybody from here ever redeemed something solid(comp. hardware/Gadgets etc.) from their reward points system? That feature is one of my talking points in trying to get a referral.
This questions I have been asked for long time ago but no one replies mine. Last time I saw someone claimed their gadget and talking about shipping here but after that, there is no news about it whether he already get his items or not. Need wetsuit to confirmed it once again. Yes, you need some active referrals here to increase your reward points and may be you can burn some money here to get 3 or 4 reward point on each wagered Holy Sh*t, we've already commenced a HUGE Rewards Points bonus weekend >>>>> 3x Rewards Points starts tonight!For the entire week, we'll pay you 6 Rewards Points for a free roll, 3 Rewards Points for a multiply roll activity exceeding 1500 satoshi, and 3 Rewards Points for a referral roll! Follow us on Twitter to get more announcements of great promotions > https://twitter.com/freebitcoYeah, this is really great job that you increasing the reward point till 3x but the problem here, i do not know that whether someone that already get the gadgets yet or not from exchange their reward point. Because i always follow this thread and there is nothing that i can really get from this information or may be i skipped it. May be you could tell me and others whether the shipping is success or not We have had many redemptions - a lot of hardware wallets, couple of headphones, VR headsets, GoPro's, Fitbits and 1 iPhone 7 and 1 galaxy s6 awaiting the shipping address. The most popular items seem to be the gift cards though.
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Holy Sh*t, we've already commenced a HUGE Rewards Points bonus weekend >>>>> 3x Rewards Points starts tonight!For the entire week, we'll pay you 6 Rewards Points for a free roll, 3 Rewards Points for a multiply roll activity exceeding 1500 satoshi, and 3 Rewards Points for a referral roll! Follow us on Twitter to get more announcements of great promotions > https://twitter.com/freebitcoi think you meant weekend. Sorry about the delay with this, I have just gone through all the lottery drawing ideas and this is the best one I found mainly because I don't have to store 200 million+ ticket numbers for each round and the "window" system for picking winners is what I already use. I have a few modifications to this idea though to make it easier to verify and implement. So, this is how the lottery will work with my modifications: 1) Before a lottery round starts, a server seed will be generated and it's hash will be provided. 2) After a lottery round is concluded, a list of user id's and tickets will be produced in a text file ordered by ascending user id's. This order will be used to create the "ticket-windows" as Zhor and edge777 have described below. 3) Then a tweet will be made to our twitter account containing the following: - A future bitcoin block number that has not yet been mined. The block hash of this block will be used as the client seed. This block will be at least 3 blocks in the future.
- The link to the text file in 2.
- A MD5 hash of the text file in 2 to verify that the contents of the text file have not been modified since posting. If the contents of the file change, it will produce a different MD5 hash which will not match the one provided originally.
Twitter is ideal for this because it will provide a timestamp that can be verified to check that the block number provided is in the future. Also, tweets cannot be edited, only deleted so if I delete the original tweet and post a new one after the block has been mined, it will have a timestamp greater than the timestamp of the block used for the client seed. 4) The server seed, block hash and an incrementing nonce will be used to draw the 10 lottery winners. Please let me know if this can be exploited in any way or if it needs clarification. I believe this is the easiest implementation that can also be verified quickly by users. I am still open to ideas until I proceed with implementing this (in the next few weeks) so please post your ideas and if something better comes along, I'll use that. If not, the reward will be divided equally between edge77 and Zhor. The original idea is below. well, hello everybody from bitcointalk, [...]
hey, nice to see that you liked my idea! I still don't like the usage of 3rd parties, but at least it will hopefully bring more people to your twitter page. Let's just assume that it is impossible to bribe twitter to change a tweet. I like how it is much easier to verify, but it is on the cost of privacy. Over the weeks, everyone can analyze the "basic activity" (seen as the amount of tickets a user spent on the lottery) of individual users and of the system as a whole. Also - and this could hurt more - you will publish indirectly the number of inactive users. And you can also see how long it takes for any user (in special or in general) to go inactive. However i dont see any way to manipulate the system as user or admin. You also need to publish the exact algorithm how the 10 lottery winners are calculated.
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June 24, 2017, 03:38:59 PM |
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Unable to Understand the concept of This following shown in my account
Bonus +0.00000962 BTC added to all rewards!
Play MULTIPLY BTC or buy lottery tickets to increase your FREE BTC rewards by up to +0.00001406 BTC
88.3229% achieved towards the next +0.00000074 BTC bonus!
For anyone who is interested in numbers and percentages: For me it takes a multiplier bet of about 86700 satoshis to get a full 1% increase towards the next bonus level. Accumulating this to 100% would of course be a bet of 86,700,000 satoshis. If i play it "safe" (many small bets) i can safely assume to lose 5% of that which would be 4,335,000. now that 100% means that my bonus will increase one stage, which is currently an increase of 76 satoshis. Just right now i get 912 satoshis bonus per roll and lose about 3% progression with each roll. that means i will have gathered about ~30k satoshis only from the bonus while losing exactly 100% progression towards the next tier. So for losing about 4.3 mil satoshis i get 30k satoshis back from freebitco which is about 0.7% of my losses. Not too much, but still i wanna say thank you to the admin for this, since it does count all your past multiply-games. Also be aware that i do not fully understand the system and these numbers may vary for your account.
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wetsuit (OP)
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June 24, 2017, 03:42:05 PM |
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Unable to Understand the concept of This following shown in my account
Bonus +0.00000962 BTC added to all rewards!
Play MULTIPLY BTC or buy lottery tickets to increase your FREE BTC rewards by up to +0.00001406 BTC
88.3229% achieved towards the next +0.00000074 BTC bonus!
For anyone who is interested in numbers and percentages: For me it takes a multiplier bet of about 86700 satoshis to get a full 1% increase towards the next bonus level. Accumulating this to 100% would of course be a bet of 86,700,000 satoshis. If i play it "safe" (many small bets) i can safely assume to lose 5% of that which would be 4,335,000. now that 100% means that my bonus will increase one stage, which is currently an increase of 76 satoshis. Just right now i get 912 satoshis bonus per roll and lose about 3% progression with each roll. that means i will have gathered about ~30k satoshis only from the bonus while losing exactly 100% progression towards the next tier. So for losing about 4.3 mil satoshis i get 30k satoshis back from freebitco which is about 0.7% of my losses. Not too much, but still i wanna say thank you to the admin for this, since it does count all your past multiply-games. Also be aware that i do not fully understand the system and these numbers may vary for your account. The numbers differ for each user and is based on how much you have claimed from the faucet in the past vs how much you have played dice/lottery. So for someone who has only claimed a small amount from the faucet, reaching the next level will be much easier.
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wetsuit (OP)
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June 24, 2017, 03:44:10 PM |
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Holy Sh*t, we've already commenced a HUGE Rewards Points bonus weekend >>>>> 3x Rewards Points starts tonight!For the entire week, we'll pay you 6 Rewards Points for a free roll, 3 Rewards Points for a multiply roll activity exceeding 1500 satoshi, and 3 Rewards Points for a referral roll! Follow us on Twitter to get more announcements of great promotions > https://twitter.com/freebitcoi think you meant weekend. Sorry about the delay with this, I have just gone through all the lottery drawing ideas and this is the best one I found mainly because I don't have to store 200 million+ ticket numbers for each round and the "window" system for picking winners is what I already use. I have a few modifications to this idea though to make it easier to verify and implement. So, this is how the lottery will work with my modifications: 1) Before a lottery round starts, a server seed will be generated and it's hash will be provided. 2) After a lottery round is concluded, a list of user id's and tickets will be produced in a text file ordered by ascending user id's. This order will be used to create the "ticket-windows" as Zhor and edge777 have described below. 3) Then a tweet will be made to our twitter account containing the following: - A future bitcoin block number that has not yet been mined. The block hash of this block will be used as the client seed. This block will be at least 3 blocks in the future.
- The link to the text file in 2.
- A MD5 hash of the text file in 2 to verify that the contents of the text file have not been modified since posting. If the contents of the file change, it will produce a different MD5 hash which will not match the one provided originally.
Twitter is ideal for this because it will provide a timestamp that can be verified to check that the block number provided is in the future. Also, tweets cannot be edited, only deleted so if I delete the original tweet and post a new one after the block has been mined, it will have a timestamp greater than the timestamp of the block used for the client seed. 4) The server seed, block hash and an incrementing nonce will be used to draw the 10 lottery winners. Please let me know if this can be exploited in any way or if it needs clarification. I believe this is the easiest implementation that can also be verified quickly by users. I am still open to ideas until I proceed with implementing this (in the next few weeks) so please post your ideas and if something better comes along, I'll use that. If not, the reward will be divided equally between edge77 and Zhor. The original idea is below. well, hello everybody from bitcointalk, [...]
hey, nice to see that you liked my idea! I still don't like the usage of 3rd parties, but at least it will hopefully bring more people to your twitter page. Let's just assume that it is impossible to bribe twitter to change a tweet. I like how it is much easier to verify, but it is on the cost of privacy. Over the weeks, everyone can analyze the "basic activity" (seen as the amount of tickets a user spent on the lottery) of individual users and of the system as a whole. Also - and this could hurt more - you will publish indirectly the number of inactive users. And you can also see how long it takes for any user (in special or in general) to go inactive. However i dont see any way to manipulate the system as user or admin. You also need to publish the exact algorithm how the 10 lottery winners are calculated. I don't think it will be a breach of privacy since it will just be a list of user id's and their tickets for that week. Other people knowing the number of active and inactive users will also not be a problem for us.
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June 24, 2017, 04:11:52 PM |
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The numbers differ for each user and is based on how much you have claimed from the faucet in the past vs how much you have played dice/lottery. So for someone who has only claimed a small amount from the faucet, reaching the next level will be much easier.
That is not true. For example if someone open new account right now: what he need to reach next level?
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