[ANN][Datacoin] Datacoin blockchain start announcement (Minor code upd + logo)

[Hazard]

So this is basically torrents but instead of choosing which file you want to download, you have to download every single file?

Beyond stupid. Even more so once someone puts illegal content into the blockchain.

Not really like that, i guess more like a decentralised torrent hosting site, if combined with tor or something i guess impossible to shut off. I guess quite a lot of potential things can be done with it.

You don't think 513GB a year is an insane requirement? And what happens when someone puts kiddy porn in the blockchain? 128kb is plenty for a jpeg file.

This has bad idea written all over it.

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[maxsolnc]

So this is basically torrents but instead of choosing which file you want to download, you have to download every single file?

Beyond stupid. Even more so once someone puts illegal content into the blockchain.

Not really like that, i guess more like a decentralised torrent hosting site, if combined with tor or something i guess impossible to shut off. I guess quite a lot of potential things can be done with it.

You don't think 513GB a year is an insane requirement? And what happens when someone puts kiddy porn in the blockchain? 128kb is plenty for a jpeg file.

This has bad idea written all over it.

Firstly, these files will be stored in archived state in some part of this blockchain - not simply "file 1.jpg is stored in /home/pictures"
Secondly, look to decentralized networks like I2P\Tor. There is so much illegal content here, but if you need TOR to browse, for example, political sites that are being censored in Internet, you won't touch this content.

edited: and yeah,  in future it can be like a 'small internet' where you can find whatever you want - but you can find the same (torrents, some strange content) in WWW now.

[maxsolnc]

Difficulty is near 8 now! Does anyone remember what was difficulty increase for XPM in 24 hours?
edited: just looked into XPM thread. It seems that it was a little bit more than 7 for XPM. Datacoin started with diff ~7 (much more comparing to XPM), now it is 8 and raising very quickly.

[bitdraw]

Difficulty is near 8 now! Does anyone remember what was difficulty increase for XPM in 24 hours?
edited: just looked into XPM thread. It seems that it was a little bit more than 7 for XPM. Datacoin started with diff ~7 (much more comparing to XPM), now it is 8 and raising very quickly.

xpm release miner was a LOT slower than the optimized version we are using now. might explain something ..

[maxsolnc]

Difficulty is near 8 now! Does anyone remember what was difficulty increase for XPM in 24 hours?
edited: just looked into XPM thread. It seems that it was a little bit more than 7 for XPM. Datacoin started with diff ~7 (much more comparing to XPM), now it is 8 and raising very quickly.

xpm release miner was a LOT slower than the optimized version we are using now. might explain something ..

I know, that's why I wrote "it is 8 and raising very quickly" - just forgot to clarify. We didn't see so big difficulty increase in case of XPM because of that, but it means that network is adjusting diff rather quick depending on total hashpower.

BTW I started giveaway
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=337504.0
Join it if you want to donate or to get some free coins.

[cryptohunter]

So this is basically torrents but instead of choosing which file you want to download, you have to download every single file?

Beyond stupid. Even more so once someone puts illegal content into the blockchain.

Not really like that, i guess more like a decentralised torrent hosting site, if combined with tor or something i guess impossible to shut off. I guess quite a lot of potential things can be done with it.

You don't think 513GB a year is an insane requirement? And what happens when someone puts kiddy porn in the blockchain? 128kb is plenty for a jpeg file.

This has bad idea written all over it.

agreed that it does have some costs to it, but those unsavoury types will always find away to distribute their material. Sometimes you can not write something off entirely because 0.00001% of the population will use it in a negative way.  I think a lot of exciting applications for this are possible and could turn out to make a lot of headlines good and bad.

[MessyCoin]

Anyway, I like the coin and I would actually like to create a Blockexplorer (data browser).

DDck5G3tciBc6PngfB5aEysxEUkLsrGftm - Tips are welcome

Sent you a tip. Good luck with your data browser idea

[maxsolnc]

Were there no other datacoins (which store data in tx) already? If so, can you remind me please of their names?

Anyway, I like the coin and I would actually like to create a Blockexplorer (data browser).

DDck5G3tciBc6PngfB5aEysxEUkLsrGftm - Tips are welcome

Also sent you tip

[cryptohunter]

should someone make a nice logo for this asap to put on the wallet.  

what about some tor nodes or start working towards something like ANC?

[Snard]

How long does it to take for a block to be confirmed?

Code:

    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "DDnspK5RAihi5ArZ3NZb5nLbX1QigBAohC",
        "category" : "immature",
        "amount" : 15.78000000,
        "confirmations" : 1129,
        "generated" : true,
        "blockhash" : "35ea0f55eebbb8d7c38a9510c823428d7f6c909e7d3a42a3c583a564273b97a6",
        "blockindex" : 0,
        "blocktime" : 1384767784,
        "txid" : "23a10bf4b3f41d1443e4e4d62288ec6fec06ff887e86b429660e119d5f1186bf",
        "time" : 1384767784,
        "timereceived" : 1384767784
    },

My balance shows 0. This is for all my found blocks.

[maxsolnc]

How long does it to take for a block to be confirmed?

Code:

    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "DDnspK5RAihi5ArZ3NZb5nLbX1QigBAohC",
        "category" : "immature",
        "amount" : 15.78000000,
        "confirmations" : 1129,
        "generated" : true,
        "blockhash" : "35ea0f55eebbb8d7c38a9510c823428d7f6c909e7d3a42a3c583a564273b97a6",
        "blockindex" : 0,
        "blocktime" : 1384767784,
        "txid" : "23a10bf4b3f41d1443e4e4d62288ec6fec06ff887e86b429660e119d5f1186bf",
        "time" : 1384767784,
        "timereceived" : 1384767784
    },

My balance shows 0. This is for all my found blocks.

3000 blocks. Yes, it is 'slow-maturing' coin (but not slow for transactions  )

[Hazard]

So this is basically torrents but instead of choosing which file you want to download, you have to download every single file?

Beyond stupid. Even more so once someone puts illegal content into the blockchain.

Not really like that, i guess more like a decentralised torrent hosting site, if combined with tor or something i guess impossible to shut off. I guess quite a lot of potential things can be done with it.

You don't think 513GB a year is an insane requirement? And what happens when someone puts kiddy porn in the blockchain? 128kb is plenty for a jpeg file.

This has bad idea written all over it.

agreed that it does have some costs to it, but those unsavoury types will always find away to distribute their material. Sometimes you can not write something off entirely because 0.00001% of the population will use it in a negative way.  I think a lot of exciting applications for this are possible and could turn out to make a lot of headlines good and bad.

Thats not the issue. The issue is that you are now in possession of illegal material.

[maxsolnc]

Thats not the issue. The issue is that you are now in possession of illegal material.

It's hard to prove that. If you have file "1.jpg" which has illegal picture - it is "storing of content". But if you have blockchain with encrypted picture which could be picked from it only with help of special software... Uh, I can write a program, that will get 128 kilobytes of symbols from Windows system common files, and - bah! - it is illegal content! So ALL users of this Windows version can be blamed.

[ahmed_bodi]

still a bad idea for the size of the blockchain

[maxsolnc]

still a bad idea for the size of the blockchain

Why? I think that *500 GB per year* is very rough, and really it will be much smaller - 100-200 GB in first year. I think that it's not a big problem for 2-3 TB HDDs, and yes, remember that it is not just coin - it is storage.

[ahmed_bodi]

it wouldnt be hard to produce a script to mass spam the blockchain with data to fill up people's hard drive's heck i could do it now just to prove my point

[Gontxi]

I'm trying to connect 3 miners to datacoin but dont work

my datacoin.conf:

Code:

rpcuser=USER
rpcpassword=PASSWORD
server=1
rpcallowip=*.*.*.*
rpcport=80
listen=1
gen=0

Anyone with the same problem?

[maxsolnc]

it wouldnt be hard to produce a script to mass spam the blockchain with data to fill up people's hard drive's heck i could do it now just to prove my point

and what do you prove with that? OK, I have several servers, and several TBs won't be a problem (even on my home computer) - it will be enough for years. And many other people can dedicate several hundreds GB to this storage if they like the idea.

@Gontxi : as I understood, you can use only OP miner now, and other miners for primecoin if you make some changes to them

[ahmed_bodi]

exactly you need big hard drive's many people dont have those`

[Gontxi]

@Gontxi : as I understood, you can use only OP miner now, and other miners for primecoin if you make some changes to them

Hmmmmm... i has trying to use cgminer
No problem...