NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[lurning]

On solaris client I cannot connect to test server..."Failed to connect to http://holms.cloudapp.net:6874/"

But in my browser it is working...

Is there a trailing slash in your URL? Try to remove it.

that helped...thanks

[opticalcarrier]

guys, instead of making 3 new domains/websites because you dont like the current one at www.nxtcrypto.org, why not make suggestions to the site?  Everything was formed with the idea that we wanted the community to decide what they wanted, and we would make it so

<gateway stuff>

Nice work on getting us all started on this.  Keep in mind that for some assets such as BTC you could just imply a certain number of decimal points for more resolution.  Its times like this I wish I had gone the CS route in stead of the easier IT route in university - Im no coder.  Oh well, wish I could help out more.

But yes, the trust thing will be difficult.  Possibly some aspect of account control will assist here, whenever it comes out, since it looks like we will see account control instead of regular multisig.

One of the critical parts of the gateway is the trusted server  and that's your area isn't it?

How much would it cost to run a hardened gateway server?
Also, is there a way to set it up so that the keys used for the deposit wallet are only accessible to the gateway program itself? Here I go with the crazy stuff, but I cant help it, I spend all day researching about zeroknowledge this, magical algorithm that. It just gets to the point if I assume that anything can be done, usually somebody says, I read about something like that here <magic URL>

So, let us ignore how we initialize this server as that is most tricky.

I am imagining that there is a way to get a runtime signature of the gateway software code. This will be independently scanned and validated before any wallet access by a separate process. Maybe its as simple as a signed .jar file. We need a secure way to access the wallet for all the different cryptos. We want to make sure only the approved gateway code is able to do this.

I need somebody who knows about multisig, crypto in general, magic, to help figure out how the runtime can be secured. Even if somebody gets access to the server, I want the most damage they could do to be to blow up the server. this is a pain, but with all the pending transactions store in AM in the NXT blockchain, after a delay, everything should be back to normal

I am pretty sure somebody supertrusted needs to set things up, eg. making sure the code is compiled from the approved source and creating all the different keys and putting the backup in a physically secure place to be accessed only in emergency.

Not sure at all the right process, just throwing out something as a starting point for someone who knows how to properly setup a secure server and a bit of crypto magic

a hardened secure server isnt too difficult - any fool can buy the equipment and install it into a secure hosting facility.  hardening it from access is a little trickier but can be done.  abstracting the runtime for the server is the part that is nearly impossible - would require basically 2 people living together to accomplish that - for this business Id say that is most likely undoable.

will have to think about this more.

[LiQio]

Hi NXTers!

NXT's greatest competitor seem to be Ethereum. It's main feature that NXT still lacks is scripting, which is a wonderful idea (along with it's risks of course) - kudos to Vitalik and his team for bringing this up!

Because I want NXT to be competitive and because this is a great feature on it's own, I decided to personally fund a team led by CIYAM and CfB (as long as he is with us), to implement this technology in NXT too!

The code will be open sourced when the feature is finished and extensively tested.
We will use a private github repo if others want to easily review the source during development.

Let the good times roll!

Yeehaw!

[grandpa_seth]

Hi NXTers!

NXT's greatest competitor seem to be Ethereum. It's main feature that NXT still lacks is scripting, which is a wonderful idea (along with it's risks of course) - kudos to Vitalik and his team for bringing this up!

Because I want NXT to be competitive and because this is a great feature on it's own, I decided to personally fund a team led by CIYAM and CfB (as long as he is with us), to implement this technology in NXT too!

The code will be open sourced when the feature is finished and extensively tested.
We will use a private github repo if others want to easily review the source during development.

Let the good times roll!

Awesome klee

[Damelon]

Hi NXTers!

NXT's greatest competitor seem to be Ethereum. It's main feature that NXT still lacks is scripting, which is a wonderful idea (along with it's risks of course) - kudos to Vitalik and his team for bringing this up!

Because I want NXT to be competitive and because this is a great feature on it's own, I decided to personally fund a team led by CIYAM and CfB (as long as he is with us), to implement this technology in NXT too!

The code will be open sourced when the feature is finished and extensively tested.
We will use a private github repo if others want to easily review the source during development.

Let the good times roll!

Awesome klee

It's becoming a kind of chariot race in 2nd Gen country, where we all bounce ideas off each other
I like it!

[Hegemon]

Breaking news: STOP TRADING AT BTER! THEY ARE ON A FORK. I WAS JUST INFORMED VIA EMAIL!

still ?

[TwinWinNerD]

Hi NXTers!

NXT's greatest competitor seem to be Ethereum. It's main feature that NXT still lacks is scripting, which is a wonderful idea (along with it's risks of course) - kudos to Vitalik and his team for bringing this up!

Because I want NXT to be competitive and because this is a great feature on it's own, I decided to personally fund a team led by CIYAM and CfB (as long as he is with us), to implement this technology in NXT too!

The code will be open sourced when the feature is finished and extensively tested.
We will use a private github repo if others want to easily review the source during development.

Let the good times roll!

Yeehaw!

you guys are awesome!!! Thanks klee for taking the initiative

[mcjavar]

guys, instead of making 3 new domains/websites because you dont like the current one at www.nxtcrypto.org, why not make suggestions to the site?  Everything was formed with the idea that we wanted the community to decide what they wanted, and we would make it so

<gateway stuff>

Nice work on getting us all started on this.  Keep in mind that for some assets such as BTC you could just imply a certain number of decimal points for more resolution.  Its times like this I wish I had gone the CS route in stead of the easier IT route in university - Im no coder.  Oh well, wish I could help out more.

But yes, the trust thing will be difficult.  Possibly some aspect of account control will assist here, whenever it comes out, since it looks like we will see account control instead of regular multisig.

One of the critical parts of the gateway is the trusted server  and that's your area isn't it?

How much would it cost to run a hardened gateway server?
Also, is there a way to set it up so that the keys used for the deposit wallet are only accessible to the gateway program itself? Here I go with the crazy stuff, but I cant help it, I spend all day researching about zeroknowledge this, magical algorithm that. It just gets to the point if I assume that anything can be done, usually somebody says, I read about something like that here <magic URL>

So, let us ignore how we initialize this server as that is most tricky.

I am imagining that there is a way to get a runtime signature of the gateway software code. This will be independently scanned and validated before any wallet access by a separate process. Maybe its as simple as a signed .jar file. We need a secure way to access the wallet for all the different cryptos. We want to make sure only the approved gateway code is able to do this.

I need somebody who knows about multisig, crypto in general, magic, to help figure out how the runtime can be secured. Even if somebody gets access to the server, I want the most damage they could do to be to blow up the server. this is a pain, but with all the pending transactions store in AM in the NXT blockchain, after a delay, everything should be back to normal

I am pretty sure somebody supertrusted needs to set things up, eg. making sure the code is compiled from the approved source and creating all the different keys and putting the backup in a physically secure place to be accessed only in emergency.

Not sure at all the right process, just throwing out something as a starting point for someone who knows how to properly setup a secure server and a bit of crypto magic

a hardened secure server isnt too difficult - any fool can buy the equipment and install it into a secure hosting facility.  hardening it from access is a little trickier but can be done.  abstracting the runtime for the server is the part that is nearly impossible - would require basically 2 people living together to accomplish that - for this business Id say that is most likely undoable.

will have to think about this more.

I, from my side, was only talking about a landing page, not a new homepage. A 1-pager where someone who is new to Nxt (but has general understanding of cryptos) can start his way which can lead to the wiki, nxtcrypto, dgex, bter, or any other site with more specific information about a topic.

[mcjavar]

Hi NXTers!

NXT's greatest competitor seem to be Ethereum. It's main feature that NXT still lacks is scripting, which is a wonderful idea (along with it's risks of course) - kudos to Vitalik and his team for bringing this up!

Because I want NXT to be competitive and because this is a great feature on it's own, I decided to personally fund a team led by CIYAM and CfB (as long as he is with us), to implement this technology in NXT too!

The code will be open sourced when the feature is finished and extensively tested.
We will use a private github repo if others want to easily review the source during development.

Let the good times roll!

Awesome klee

Do you need additional help/support from community?

[SkillRoad]

Hi NXTers!

NXT's greatest competitor seem to be Ethereum. It's main feature that NXT still lacks is scripting, which is a wonderful idea (along with it's risks of course) - kudos to Vitalik and his team for bringing this up!

Because I want NXT to be competitive and because this is a great feature on it's own, I decided to personally fund a team led by CIYAM and CfB (as long as he is with us), to implement this technology in NXT too!

The code will be open sourced when the feature is finished and extensively tested.
We will use a private github repo if others want to easily review the source during development.

Let the good times roll!

Looking forward

[coolfish]

need some testnet nxt, address is 8026612693734218048

[kpax7788]

need some testnet nxt, address is 8026612693734218048

Sent 10k

[klee]

Hi NXTers!

NXT's greatest competitor seem to be Ethereum. It's main feature that NXT still lacks is scripting, which is a wonderful idea (along with it's risks of course) - kudos to Vitalik and his team for bringing this up!

Because I want NXT to be competitive and because this is a great feature on it's own, I decided to personally fund a team led by CIYAM and CfB (as long as he is with us), to implement this technology in NXT too!

The code will be open sourced when the feature is finished and extensively tested.
We will use a private github repo if others want to easily review the source during development.

Let the good times roll!

Awesome klee

Do you need additional help/support from community?

You should ask CIYAM - I will seriously take into consideration any proposal from his side - he is the technical coordinator/director of this project!

[CIYAM]

Do you need additional help/support from community?

I think for now we have enough people to get this implemented but when we get to the "testnet" stage we'd be hoping to get some extra help.

[Coinonaer]

Hi NXTers!

NXT's greatest competitor seem to be Ethereum. It's main feature that NXT still lacks is scripting, which is a wonderful idea (along with it's risks of course) - kudos to Vitalik and his team for bringing this up!

Because I want NXT to be competitive and because this is a great feature on it's own, I decided to personally fund a team led by CIYAM and CfB (as long as he is with us), to implement this technology in NXT too!

The code will be open sourced when the feature is finished and extensively tested.
We will use a private github repo if others want to easily review the source during development.

Let the good times roll!

Great klee. Fantastic news! Thank you so much Sir. 

[opticalcarrier]

I, from my side, was only talking about a landing page, not a new homepage. A 1-pager where someone who is new to Nxt (but has general understanding of cryptos) can start his way which can lead to the wiki, nxtcrypto, dgex, bter, or any other site with more specific information about a topic.

ah.  cool, well if anyone ever wants any DNS name, start.nxtcrypto.org or whatever.nxtcrypto.org, let me know the IP and Ill set the A record.

[abuelau]

Hi NXTers!

NXT's greatest competitor seem to be Ethereum. It's main feature that NXT still lacks is scripting, which is a wonderful idea (along with it's risks of course) - kudos to Vitalik and his team for bringing this up!

Because I want NXT to be competitive and because this is a great feature on it's own, I decided to personally fund a team led by CIYAM and CfB (as long as he is with us), to implement this technology in NXT too!

The code will be open sourced when the feature is finished and extensively tested.
We will use a private github repo if others want to easily review the source during development.

Let the good times roll!

Nice initiative!

[pinarello]

NXT's greatest competitor seem to be Ethereum. It's main feature that NXT still lacks is scripting, which is a wonderful idea (along with it's risks of course) - kudos to Vitalik and his team for bringing this up!

Because I want NXT to be competitive and because this is a great feature on it's own, I decided to personally fund a team led by CIYAM and CfB (as long as he is with us), to implement this technology in NXT too!

BAM!    

no BUY!  

[pinarello]

change my advice from HODL to YUB!

[utopianfuture]

Do you need additional help/support from community?

I think for now we have enough people to get this implemented but when we get to the "testnet" stage we'd be hoping to get some extra help.

Great initiative. any ETA for a testnet ?