mkimid
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January 16, 2014, 04:21:13 AM |
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Today, coin value at CoinedUp
0.00000015 BTC/GRA 0.00000350 LTC/GRA
Daily coin : 15,000 per Mh/s
Daily income : 0.00255BTC or 0.0525LTC
W/ free coin from Dev : 0.00765BTC or 0.1575LTC
If mining LTC, 0.2558LTC
So, income with GRA, is much lower than LTC mining, But, i believe it will catch up soon ~
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bee7
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January 16, 2014, 05:14:52 AM Last edit: January 16, 2014, 05:35:21 AM by bee7 |
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Today, coin value at CoinedUp
0.00000015 BTC/GRA 0.00000350 LTC/GRA
Daily coin : 15,000 per Mh/s
Daily income : 0.00255BTC or 0.0525LTC
W/ free coin from Dev : 0.00765BTC or 0.1575LTC
If mining LTC, 0.2558LTC
So, income with GRA, is much lower than LTC mining, But, i believe it will catch up soon ~
Concerning the forkpool HP. May be I totally misread the stats. At the left pane it shows 7.56. Then my math above is completely incorrect. It seems they lost some power recently Anyway, I prefer to mine solo if it is not a waste of electricity definitely. As for profit calculations above it is too early to compare the grain with the litecoin IMO. As I noted before the value does not appear from the air. If I start the new coin today, then I make all you mine it for a while and then push it to the cryptsy somehow and nothing else. What will be a rate? Zero. Is it undervalued now? Yes, probably is. What all we do if it is two times profitable to mine litecoin? We invest. Will our investment be paid off? It depends on what all of us will be doing. Not only the devs, but all of us.
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bee7
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January 16, 2014, 07:46:02 AM |
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Wait so whats happening?
It was decided to compensate the PoW miners for the current 'artificially' lifted up PoW difficulty. So, the Idea is following: for each PoW mined block the dev team pays the additional 3k grain to the miner. With solo miners it is simple. It is a bit complicated with pooled miners. Are you capable to accept not only coinbase tx inputs on your "mining" address but also accept regular tx and distribute it accordingly between your miners?
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zloster
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January 16, 2014, 08:04:12 AM |
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So what if you pay 3k for each block? Last 30 min I hit 4 blocks and 3 of them were orphans... Don't waste your time this coin is DEAD!
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Nullu
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January 16, 2014, 08:16:12 AM |
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So what if you pay 3k for each block? Last 30 min I hit 4 blocks and 3 of them were orphans... Don't waste your time this coin is DEAD!
Then please, by all means, go mine something else. If you think Grain is dead, nobody wants you holding any. I hit 1 block in 6 hours. Turned out to be a superblock with 9664 Grain, though. Not too shabby.
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BTC - 14kYyhhWZwSJFHAjNTtyhRVSu157nE92gF
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jacquette
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January 16, 2014, 11:46:20 AM |
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So what if you pay 3k for each block? Last 30 min I hit 4 blocks and 3 of them were orphans... Don't waste your time this coin is DEAD!
Please, send me the rest of your dead coins..
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mkimid
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January 16, 2014, 12:49:46 PM |
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Today, coin value at CoinedUp
0.00000015 BTC/GRA 0.00000350 LTC/GRA
Daily coin : 15,000 per Mh/s
Daily income : 0.00255BTC or 0.0525LTC
W/ free coin from Dev : 0.00765BTC or 0.1575LTC
If mining LTC, 0.2558LTC
So, income with GRA, is much lower than LTC mining, But, i believe it will catch up soon ~
Concerning the forkpool HP. May be I totally misread the stats. At the left pane it shows 7.56. Then my math above is completely incorrect. It seems they lost some power recently Anyway, I prefer to mine solo if it is not a waste of electricity definitely. As for profit calculations above it is too early to compare the grain with the litecoin IMO. As I noted before the value does not appear from the air. If I start the new coin today, then I make all you mine it for a while and then push it to the cryptsy somehow and nothing else. What will be a rate? Zero. Is it undervalued now? Yes, probably is. What all we do if it is two times profitable to mine litecoin? We invest. Will our investment be paid off? It depends on what all of us will be doing. Not only the devs, but all of us. Unfortunately, It is the current valuation by the trader now, Anyway, nobody know the future, so nobody know how valuation of GRA will be changed in future, Anyway, I am saying the number which can be found now,
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OneEyedJack
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January 16, 2014, 03:09:56 PM |
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WOOHOOO 60k Grain an counting. All from mining Not that I have anything against people buying into GRA, I just like the feeling knowing I mined them myself And for only having 1 video card hashing at around 160k, I think it's not too shabby.
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All donations are given to the Universal DBDB Organization EAC: egokwQAmnNvumsQfMokeV2qKRgJdARY4D4 GRA: 9ECPZJBtbMHyfGikdUzQuf9Z8t6gGbWh5s
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OneEyedJack
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January 16, 2014, 04:37:05 PM |
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I was reading the news today and thinking to myself, how to promote GRA as a feasible alternative to BTC. Instead of promoting BTC or GRA or an individual coin, promote CryptoCurrencies in general to businesses.
But to do that, the businesses would need a wallet to support various currencies. No business would decide to use Cryptosurrencies if they had to have 14 different wallets.
Is it possible to develop a wallet to support more than one cryptocurrency?
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All donations are given to the Universal DBDB Organization EAC: egokwQAmnNvumsQfMokeV2qKRgJdARY4D4 GRA: 9ECPZJBtbMHyfGikdUzQuf9Z8t6gGbWh5s
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SkyValeey
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January 16, 2014, 05:38:40 PM |
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Hi Guys.
I want to invest in GRA. It's worth to invest now? You think price will go lower than 10 satoshis? I see good bids.
Any chance to hit cryptsy or another exchange (maybe Chinese?) ?
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Nullu
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January 16, 2014, 06:01:20 PM |
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Hi Guys.
I want to invest in GRA. It's worth to invest now? You think price will go lower than 10 satoshis? I see good bids.
Any chance to hit cryptsy or another exchange (maybe Chinese?) ?
Difficult to say. I personally think it's still undervalued, and that the price will increase. I think for the price, and given the 5% annual interest earned on your grain, it's a good investment. I bought in at 9 Satoshi each, for 1.6 million GRA. I could sell it now for a small profit, however I'm considering my grain a long-term investment. I don't see why it couldn't get listed on Crypsty. It seems to meet the criteria.
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bosian (OP)
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January 16, 2014, 07:28:17 PM |
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Pool owners (udjin123 and oktasama): we found the number of PoW blocks found by the pools as follows: 6 PoW blocks: 9StWjUHMHt3FfQXMKxtcDNRr3h26cKQKtQ oktasama's pool 222 PoW blocks: 97mHyuMsZC3RyU9p3JiX5xyDpYXDZZUFdj udjin123's forkpool
please confirm that you will distribute the complementary coins to miners, also we need you guys to comfirm the addresses, the pool addresses are always not very clear to me, , so need your confirmation what address we should send. Then we will send the complementary coins to you. For all the rest, the coins will be sent to you by our script soon. Each PoW block will entitle 3000 GRAs compensation that we will send out soon (within a day or two). And afterwards this will be done automatically by our script on daily basis, until the issue is fixed or we change 12x to 3x for the pow adjustment. This might take up to a month or so. We don't want immediately another fork. That's right, i haved checked with the block time and pool's block time. And, i think 3000 is too small, Because of x12 has stretched, and, it will go to 3x, Addtional x3 (12/3 - 1) is the fair amount, 1536 * 3= 4608 And, compensate x8/x64 blocks also ? Just kidding, In fact, i wish to make the difference way, Make a big events to get more miner instead of free coin, It will give us more benefit when consider the long term mkimid, I like your math, and it makes sense. After discussions we decided to compensate each PoW block by 5000 GRAs. The Grain Dev Team cares a lot about our miner community and we want you to be happy. Of course, we can not sustain the support like this for long term. We will release a new version of Grain this weekend or early next week, targeting a switch over by the end of next week. This new release will change max PoW blocktime from 12X to 3X, so hopefully the issue with PoW will permanently be fixed. Meantime, please help to promote Grain, we will start a promotion campaign after the issues be fixed. We are in the process of sending out the complimentary coins, stay tuned
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Hippie Tech
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January 16, 2014, 10:18:04 PM |
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I'll take you up on that offer, bosian. It will make up for the 4-6 orphans I lost yesterday. Thinking that I may have unfairly judged you and Graincoin, I decided to give it another try. As you can see, my second stint was short lived. 9PJ2Pu8etU91rm72wA1CrBTSTiLuz8g92z
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SkyValeey
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January 16, 2014, 10:53:15 PM |
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Join the GRAIN.
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bee7
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January 17, 2014, 12:39:23 AM |
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Ok, dears. unfortunately the pool operators did not show any interest, so I implemented the compensation in a way convenient for me. So the additional block rewards will be credited once a day for all past not yet paid matured blocks. The blocks mined by pools will be paid when pool operators confirm that they will distribute the rewards between miners in a fair way. Here is the first batch: Address 94p3gejUZwtMH53GAuFZQsTUmBcEFsdqAv 33 block(s): 107136, 105346, 105348, 102405, 105862, 107399, 107138, 101007, 106435, 100373, 102679, 104858, 106651, 103844, 100262, 100660, 102071, 103616, 103873, 106051, 107206, 101193, 106827, 105421, 100941, 102608, 105570, 107211, 100976, 106771, 105975, 105723, 107134, Reward: 165000 GRAAddress 97Cr1SmKRBG6TTVo9L7WMNwZYPuoqgjnR4 3 block(s): 100009, 100369, 100231, Reward: 15000 GRAAddress 98y7GBVuYjs92A1HaAVc94Pn5hzdyqfNL7 15 block(s): 106402, 106571, 106405, 106769, 106408, 106507, 106732, 106446, 106712, 106574, 106742, 106424, 106521, 106524, 106623, Reward: 75000 GRAAddress 97mHyuMsZC3RyU9p3JiX5xyDpYXDZZUFdj 339 block(s) to be paid Address 98ibu7sNSQMbmTkDCPfgKydSHF9p2JuecE 2 block(s): 100233, 100244, Reward: 10000 GRAAddress 9LaTaNvNyH1cvqFb18VubpgD1ETzKGFFpM 2 block(s): 103912, 103900, Reward: 10000 GRAAddress 9EAV4SyrdKQrs6Gg5s6RHTQW9urmQ3uNcL 76 block(s): 100481, 100866, 104514, 100869, 104838, 106924, 101003, 100877, 100494, 100752, 101009, 100626, 104339, 105492, 103598, 107030, 107106, 106479, 100892, 106525, 106654, 101637, 107056, 107043, 104868, 103463, 105641, 106154, 104108, 103214, 104623, 106160, 103857, 100018, 102021, 101560, 101817, 103994, 100797, 104384, 105921, 104130, 106891, 104205, 100295, 104333, 101705, 106954, 101196, 106317, 100943, 102072, 106962, 105998, 105977, 100828, 107102, 105826, 106899, 105702, 104017, 106343, 103020, 102802, 104430, 105725, 102898, 100467, 106001, 105847, 104953, 101499, 106108, 100605, 105342, 106837, Reward: 380000 GRAAddress 9LQMhsFJmpL5dWty6qPynj2tPCQDPdXyQR 5 block(s): 104625, 104636, 104869, 104302, 104985, Reward: 25000 GRAAddress 95QC6rNi7by7AqrSeRKYW6bosL2njQvkrA 55 block(s): 106625, 106626, 102410, 106327, 104078, 104429, 105616, 100120, 100754, 104856, 106138, 106415, 107410, 105785, 106271, 103840, 105640, 104491, 105775, 105776, 105777, 104377, 100795, 104380, 104202, 105534, 104134, 105543, 100940, 105424, 104915, 104021, 105430, 102073, 105432, 105817, 100189, 106960, 106596, 104038, 107409, 101180, 106258, 104427, 104301, 106223, 105201, 105939, 104309, 105974, 105719, 105976, 105724, 105341, 105941, Reward: 275000 GRAAddress 95PPNLACetPtPEQeVSBBi8JZFYaAU4kqxm 1 block(s): 100997, Reward: 5000 GRAAddress 9N8KwvfBJsx5Eozgy2hmRAVDTZ444zT5A2 5 block(s): 104219, 101171, 105347, 100782, 100190, Reward: 25000 GRAAddress 9C98tikfUPaDLLp31SueP2R86hga3RzyTJ 7 block(s): 106593, 106121, 106416, 106801, 106163, 105272, 105881, Reward: 35000 GRAAddress 9Pq9M7uudhPUT2ABioVK85Dzja3hfgX35F 3 block(s): 105811, 104390, 107207, Reward: 15000 GRAAddress 9HZGFFL32NvuUnuwjBs7WiVtaobYJkGxmF 5 block(s): 105744, 104033, 106531, 106541, 104126, Reward: 25000 GRAAddress 9GSWuQJU7qKoqNpqSG41dt6c7ZwpaRSsmi 4 block(s): 105417, 105394, 105741, 105774, Reward: 20000 GRAAddress 9FYjcwa2FEd9G5mCFmGWQqiK6i4RX7FRjT 5 block(s): 104448, 104233, 104322, 103699, 107243, Reward: 25000 GRAAddress 9QeAHKYCkzYVURrvynK5wYHyDmAtSYkX8E 2 block(s): 100777, 106399, Reward: 10000 GRAAddress 9J2KGj363dypL7BWPYJTjcWd9CehS3Z3Zq 22 block(s): 102401, 105218, 103697, 102677, 106137, 106146, 103339, 102574, 104379, 102590, 103744, 103241, 105931, 102234, 102492, 103136, 103141, 101991, 102120, 106229, 101879, 105720, Reward: 110000 GRAAddress 9StWjUHMHt3FfQXMKxtcDNRr3h26cKQKtQ 13 block(s) to be paid Address 9D3T2Z5naK5b7ECTgyXA8iUTzTikqzUpRp 7 block(s): 105545, 104943, 105999, 104601, 103002, 101883, 104765, Reward: 35000 GRAAddress 9DA7xJLTnNj3zNRJ15Kwe3yeFPGvxiB5ue 5 block(s): 103905, 105418, 104939, 105397, 103830, Reward: 25000 GRAAddress 9NXiJEyXaMb1MXMqx2shd8v49r6XBCCbUR 1 block(s): 107202, Reward: 5000 GRAAddress 9Rtmx2QcN9Sgv6ogpwBN2XWMMq3m6vgfD7 2 block(s): 100256, 100317, Reward: 10000 GRAAddress 9GKuXcesJSSjVfoHbbWCh73aesZLF4TTTQ 2 block(s): 107200, 107193, Reward: 10000 GRAAddress 9JbGwYMvTCZ9kDKfj5DevbW9kRzBtF2TpF 4 block(s): 107472, 107363, 107246, 106894, Reward: 20000 GRAAddress 952tV5x8oBrtJZ7GTGcLusufubBp4y92LL 10 block(s): 104035, 103863, 105241, 105422, 105199, 101398, 104599, 102617, 105243, 101468, Reward: 50000 GRAAddress 95W762WiTV8YwQ9ras2hrpSTpAhH8xBHhQ 24 block(s): 104321, 105623, 105498, 107421, 107166, 102821, 107308, 102063, 105907, 105274, 106047, 104513, 106306, 105420, 106575, 104023, 103265, 103906, 106344, 107516, 102890, 104045, 102012, 104319, Reward: 120000 GRAPayments completed up to but not including block 34710dc74f988cdbf553ab40ebe04fb155390ee511f7a8a8cb7a6bb31d5c557a Yours sincerely
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Apocangel
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January 17, 2014, 01:45:24 AM |
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Here I was, wondering where the GRA 25k that just popped into my wallet came from.
Thanks!
( 9HZGFFL32NvuUnuwjBs7WiVtaobYJkGxmF )
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Hippie Tech
aka Amenstop
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January 17, 2014, 02:09:54 AM |
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25k GRA recieved !
tyvm guys..
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bosian (OP)
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January 17, 2014, 05:09:00 AM |
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Ok, dears. unfortunately the pool operators did not show any interest, so I implemented the compensation in a way convenient for me. So the additional block rewards will be credited once a day for all past not yet paid matured blocks. The blocks mined by pools will be paid when pool operators confirm that they will distribute the rewards between miners in a fair way. Here is the first batch: Address 94p3gejUZwtMH53GAuFZQsTUmBcEFsdqAv 33 block(s): 107136, 105346, 105348, 102405, 105862, 107399, 107138, 101007, 106435, 100373, 102679, 104858, 106651, 103844, 100262, 100660, 102071, 103616, 103873, 106051, 107206, 101193, 106827, 105421, 100941, 102608, 105570, 107211, 100976, 106771, 105975, 105723, 107134, Reward: 165000 GRAAddress 97Cr1SmKRBG6TTVo9L7WMNwZYPuoqgjnR4 3 block(s): 100009, 100369, 100231, Reward: 15000 GRAAddress 98y7GBVuYjs92A1HaAVc94Pn5hzdyqfNL7 15 block(s): 106402, 106571, 106405, 106769, 106408, 106507, 106732, 106446, 106712, 106574, 106742, 106424, 106521, 106524, 106623, Reward: 75000 GRAAddress 97mHyuMsZC3RyU9p3JiX5xyDpYXDZZUFdj 339 block(s) to be paid Address 98ibu7sNSQMbmTkDCPfgKydSHF9p2JuecE 2 block(s): 100233, 100244, Reward: 10000 GRAAddress 9LaTaNvNyH1cvqFb18VubpgD1ETzKGFFpM 2 block(s): 103912, 103900, Reward: 10000 GRAAddress 9EAV4SyrdKQrs6Gg5s6RHTQW9urmQ3uNcL 76 block(s): 100481, 100866, 104514, 100869, 104838, 106924, 101003, 100877, 100494, 100752, 101009, 100626, 104339, 105492, 103598, 107030, 107106, 106479, 100892, 106525, 106654, 101637, 107056, 107043, 104868, 103463, 105641, 106154, 104108, 103214, 104623, 106160, 103857, 100018, 102021, 101560, 101817, 103994, 100797, 104384, 105921, 104130, 106891, 104205, 100295, 104333, 101705, 106954, 101196, 106317, 100943, 102072, 106962, 105998, 105977, 100828, 107102, 105826, 106899, 105702, 104017, 106343, 103020, 102802, 104430, 105725, 102898, 100467, 106001, 105847, 104953, 101499, 106108, 100605, 105342, 106837, Reward: 380000 GRAAddress 9LQMhsFJmpL5dWty6qPynj2tPCQDPdXyQR 5 block(s): 104625, 104636, 104869, 104302, 104985, Reward: 25000 GRAAddress 95QC6rNi7by7AqrSeRKYW6bosL2njQvkrA 55 block(s): 106625, 106626, 102410, 106327, 104078, 104429, 105616, 100120, 100754, 104856, 106138, 106415, 107410, 105785, 106271, 103840, 105640, 104491, 105775, 105776, 105777, 104377, 100795, 104380, 104202, 105534, 104134, 105543, 100940, 105424, 104915, 104021, 105430, 102073, 105432, 105817, 100189, 106960, 106596, 104038, 107409, 101180, 106258, 104427, 104301, 106223, 105201, 105939, 104309, 105974, 105719, 105976, 105724, 105341, 105941, Reward: 275000 GRAAddress 95PPNLACetPtPEQeVSBBi8JZFYaAU4kqxm 1 block(s): 100997, Reward: 5000 GRAAddress 9N8KwvfBJsx5Eozgy2hmRAVDTZ444zT5A2 5 block(s): 104219, 101171, 105347, 100782, 100190, Reward: 25000 GRAAddress 9C98tikfUPaDLLp31SueP2R86hga3RzyTJ 7 block(s): 106593, 106121, 106416, 106801, 106163, 105272, 105881, Reward: 35000 GRAAddress 9Pq9M7uudhPUT2ABioVK85Dzja3hfgX35F 3 block(s): 105811, 104390, 107207, Reward: 15000 GRAAddress 9HZGFFL32NvuUnuwjBs7WiVtaobYJkGxmF 5 block(s): 105744, 104033, 106531, 106541, 104126, Reward: 25000 GRAAddress 9GSWuQJU7qKoqNpqSG41dt6c7ZwpaRSsmi 4 block(s): 105417, 105394, 105741, 105774, Reward: 20000 GRAAddress 9FYjcwa2FEd9G5mCFmGWQqiK6i4RX7FRjT 5 block(s): 104448, 104233, 104322, 103699, 107243, Reward: 25000 GRAAddress 9QeAHKYCkzYVURrvynK5wYHyDmAtSYkX8E 2 block(s): 100777, 106399, Reward: 10000 GRAAddress 9J2KGj363dypL7BWPYJTjcWd9CehS3Z3Zq 22 block(s): 102401, 105218, 103697, 102677, 106137, 106146, 103339, 102574, 104379, 102590, 103744, 103241, 105931, 102234, 102492, 103136, 103141, 101991, 102120, 106229, 101879, 105720, Reward: 110000 GRAAddress 9StWjUHMHt3FfQXMKxtcDNRr3h26cKQKtQ 13 block(s) to be paid Address 9D3T2Z5naK5b7ECTgyXA8iUTzTikqzUpRp 7 block(s): 105545, 104943, 105999, 104601, 103002, 101883, 104765, Reward: 35000 GRAAddress 9DA7xJLTnNj3zNRJ15Kwe3yeFPGvxiB5ue 5 block(s): 103905, 105418, 104939, 105397, 103830, Reward: 25000 GRAAddress 9NXiJEyXaMb1MXMqx2shd8v49r6XBCCbUR 1 block(s): 107202, Reward: 5000 GRAAddress 9Rtmx2QcN9Sgv6ogpwBN2XWMMq3m6vgfD7 2 block(s): 100256, 100317, Reward: 10000 GRAAddress 9GKuXcesJSSjVfoHbbWCh73aesZLF4TTTQ 2 block(s): 107200, 107193, Reward: 10000 GRAAddress 9JbGwYMvTCZ9kDKfj5DevbW9kRzBtF2TpF 4 block(s): 107472, 107363, 107246, 106894, Reward: 20000 GRAAddress 952tV5x8oBrtJZ7GTGcLusufubBp4y92LL 10 block(s): 104035, 103863, 105241, 105422, 105199, 101398, 104599, 102617, 105243, 101468, Reward: 50000 GRAAddress 95W762WiTV8YwQ9ras2hrpSTpAhH8xBHhQ 24 block(s): 104321, 105623, 105498, 107421, 107166, 102821, 107308, 102063, 105907, 105274, 106047, 104513, 106306, 105420, 106575, 104023, 103265, 103906, 106344, 107516, 102890, 104045, 102012, 104319, Reward: 120000 GRAPayments completed up to but not including block 34710dc74f988cdbf553ab40ebe04fb155390ee511f7a8a8cb7a6bb31d5c557a Yours sincerely Very nice and detailed counts, thank you bee7!
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harveyweizhao
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January 17, 2014, 06:33:19 AM Last edit: January 17, 2014, 07:14:26 AM by harveyweizhao |
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I am doing solo mining on GRA, and the following addresses belong to me:
952tV5x8oBrtJZ7GTGcLusufubBp4y92LL received 50k 9Pq9M7uudhPUT2ABioVK85Dzja3hfgX35F recieved 15k 9Rtmx2QcN9Sgv6ogpwBN2XWMMq3m6vgfD7 recieved 10k
I was curious that why someone send me these GRA coins, and then find this post by searching my address.
Thanks for the coin. If there is anything I can do for the GRA community, please just let me know.
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