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[jeremypwr]

Still my favorite poker site!  Keep it up guys 

[Betcoin.AG]

Still my favorite poker site!  Keep it up guys 

Thank you very much for your support.  We will continue to work very hard and improve everyday. 

[SyGambler]

Any updates about the Jackpot SNGs ??

I really can't wait to play it for BTCs 

[CryForMeSky]

Any updates about the Jackpot SNGs ??

I really can't wait to play it for BTCs 

This.  Esp with PLO added.

[natmccoy]

Redditors: be sure to subscribe to www.reddit.com/r/betcoin to show your support for the site. Only 15 subscribers and 2 posts at the moment.

[hopenotlate]

DOn't kid youself, betcoin has horrendous collusions probems right now at all meaningful stakes. I am boycotting that site until fruther notice until this is rectified.

Also the player pool is tiny. Its always the same group of scumbags that collude/CHEAT nitely. The real fix is to get a legit user base. A few hundred people logged in at time is quite frankly, a total FARCE.

Beside to reporting them to support you might also start posting their usernames here.

Just start callling them out here, it would be appreciated

[Slark]

Betcoin site looks really cool, very professional design imo. I want to try to play there a bit  but I read in op that it is still beta version since 2013. Is that correct? Do I have to know something more, i.ex. some site functionality is not working properly? Maybe it is now fully released and OP just forgot to change that 'beta' status.

[Betcoin.AG]

Any updates about the Jackpot SNGs ??

I really can't wait to play it for BTCs 

We are hoping 2-4 weeks on this and will keep you posted.  Making sure that all systems are reporting appropriately for this.

[Betcoin.AG]

Redditors: be sure to subscribe to www.reddit.com/r/betcoin to show your support for the site. Only 15 subscribers and 2 posts at the moment.

Excellent natmccoy!  Contact Paul about this as well. 

[Betcoin.AG]

DOn't kid youself, betcoin has horrendous collusions probems right now at all meaningful stakes. I am boycotting that site until fruther notice until this is rectified.

Also the player pool is tiny. Its always the same group of scumbags that collude/CHEAT nitely. The real fix is to get a legit user base. A few hundred people logged in at time is quite frankly, a total FARCE.

Beside to reporting them to support you might also start posting their usernames here.

Just start callling them out here, it would be appreciated

Please call them out here so that we can look into this promptly.  Also, what is your username so that we can help you further. 

[Betcoin.AG]

Betcoin site looks really cool, very professional design imo. I want to try to play there a bit  but I read in op that it is still beta version since 2013. Is that correct? Do I have to know something more, i.ex. some site functionality is not working properly? Maybe it is now fully released and OP just forgot to change that 'beta' status.

It is fully released and has been outside of Beta for quite some time.  We will certainly change this text and thank you for pointing this out.  WE also appreciate the compliments and welcome you. 

[nioc]

DOn't kid youself, betcoin has horrendous collusions probems right now at all meaningful stakes. I am boycotting that site until fruther notice until this is rectified.

Also the player pool is tiny. Its always the same group of scumbags that collude/CHEAT nitely. The real fix is to get a legit user base. A few hundred people logged in at time is quite frankly, a total FARCE.

Beside to reporting them to support you might also start posting their usernames here.

Just start callling them out here, it would be appreciated

Please call them out here so that we can look into this promptly.  Also, what is your username so that we can help you further. 

Do you really think that listing suspected colluders in a public forum is the proper way to handle it?

Even if they are most likely colluders, do you think listing them here is the proper way to handle it? ahem

Of course I hate colluders but please think this through.

How do sites with experience and integrity handle these situations?

[CryForMeSky]

Do you really think that listing suspected colluders in a public forum is the proper way to handle it?

Even if they are most likely colluders, do you think listing them here is the proper way to handle it? ahem

Of course I hate colluders but please think this through.

How do sites with experience and integrity handle these situations?

Publicly outing suspicious behavior has long been an important staple of online poker forums.  That's how the UB superuser scandal was uncovered, how several bot rings were uncovered and obviously numerous individual colluders were uncovered this way as well.  Even Stars, with a game integrity department that numbers in the hundreds, has people who monitor online forums looking for people discussing potential malfeasance.

Not sure why you think naming people who you think are playing suspiciously is a bad thing.  What's the worst that could happen...they stop cheating?

[nioc]

Do you really think that listing suspected colluders in a public forum is the proper way to handle it?

Even if they are most likely colluders, do you think listing them here is the proper way to handle it? ahem

Of course I hate colluders but please think this through.

How do sites with experience and integrity handle these situations?

Publicly outing suspicious behavior has long been an important staple of online poker forums.  That's how the UB superuser scandal was uncovered, how several bot rings were uncovered and obviously numerous individual colluders were uncovered this way as well.  Even Stars, with a game integrity department that numbers in the hundreds, has people who monitor online forums looking for people discussing potential malfeasance.

Not sure why you think naming people who you think are playing suspiciously is a bad thing.  What's the worst that could happen...they stop cheating?

They cashout before their ill gotten gains can be frozen and confiscated.

As far as the UB superuser scandal, that was an inside job.  People within UB were exploiting the software to steal from the players.  You can't use that as an example because here we are asking the site to looking into players colluding.

Yes the community needs to be vigilant but listing names of people that may well have done nothing wrong is not the way to go about it and if they have done something it's not the way to go about it until other avenues have been tried.

[CryForMeSky]

They cashout before their ill gotten gains can be frozen and confiscated.

It's bitcoin poker.  If you aren't cashing out your entire balance every night you are doing it wrong.  Yes, people cheating/colluding and getting away with it is a concert, but 99% of the time what you are describing is moot.  It's far more important to stop the behavior as soon as possible, especially when you factor in that the site will be making the funds up to the players that were affected.  If they weren't able to spot the collusion, the financial penalty would be on them.

As far as the UB superuser scandal, that was an inside job.  People within UB were exploiting the software to steal from the players.  You can't use that as an example because here we are asking the site to looking into players colluding.

It was spotted by people in the community saying something and working together to figure out what was going on.  That's what we're talking about here.  It's directly analogous.

Yes the community needs to be vigilant but listing names of people that may well have done nothing wrong is not the way to go about it and if they have done something it's not the way to go about it until other avenues have been tried.

Saying "hey I saw something odd" IS being vigilant.  Here's what usually happens: a dozen different people see something odd but say "oh I don't want to be a worrywort" or "I don't want to get people in trouble" or "I don't want to bother".  And then one person actually makes a post about it and the dozen people all say "me too".  If you see something, say something.  A lot of the time it's the person not understanding how to play poker and looking dumb, but that's ok because a non-zero amount of the time what they see is a deeper problem.

Obviously saying "u r a cheater" or "u r a bot" or "this is a scam" is worthless.  But if you have ACTUAL information (stats, numerous HHs, ect) you should be posting that openly to see what's up.

[hopenotlate]

DOn't kid youself, betcoin has horrendous collusions probems right now at all meaningful stakes. I am boycotting that site until fruther notice until this is rectified.

Also the player pool is tiny. Its always the same group of scumbags that collude/CHEAT nitely. The real fix is to get a legit user base. A few hundred people logged in at time is quite frankly, a total FARCE.

Beside to reporting them to support you might also start posting their usernames here.

Just start callling them out here, it would be appreciated

Please call them out here so that we can look into this promptly.  Also, what is your username so that we can help you further. 

Do you really think that listing suspected colluders in a public forum is the proper way to handle it?

Even if they are most likely colluders, do you think listing them here is the proper way to handle it? ahem

From my perspective of player ...I will be happy to read names here 

So I may have a special attention if facing them at tables (expecially if more than one at the same table at time)

[hopenotlate]

...snip.... If you see something, say something. ....snip

Obviously saying "u r a cheater" or "u r a bot" or "this is a scam" is worthless.  But if you have ACTUAL information (stats, numerous HHs, ect) you should be posting that openly to see what's up.

this is exactly what I wanted to mean when I suggested him to post players name here

[nioc]

DOn't kid youself, betcoin has horrendous collusions probems right now at all meaningful stakes. I am boycotting that site until fruther notice until this is rectified.

Also the player pool is tiny. Its always the same group of scumbags that collude/CHEAT nitely. The real fix is to get a legit user base. A few hundred people logged in at time is quite frankly, a total FARCE.

Beside to reporting them to support you might also start posting their usernames here.

Just start callling them out here, it would be appreciated

Please call them out here so that we can look into this promptly.  Also, what is your username so that we can help you further. 

Do you really think that listing suspected colluders in a public forum is the proper way to handle it?

Even if they are most likely colluders, do you think listing them here is the proper way to handle it? ahem

From my perspective of player ...I will be happy to read names here 

So I may have a special attention if facing them at tables (expecially if more than one at the same table at time)

I suspect hopenotlate is colluding, or maybe just a bot

[hopenotlate]

DOn't kid youself, betcoin has horrendous collusions probems right now at all meaningful stakes. I am boycotting that site until fruther notice until this is rectified.

Also the player pool is tiny. Its always the same group of scumbags that collude/CHEAT nitely. The real fix is to get a legit user base. A few hundred people logged in at time is quite frankly, a total FARCE.

Beside to reporting them to support you might also start posting their usernames here.

Just start callling them out here, it would be appreciated

Please call them out here so that we can look into this promptly.  Also, what is your username so that we can help you further.  

Do you really think that listing suspected colluders in a public forum is the proper way to handle it?

Even if they are most likely colluders, do you think listing them here is the proper way to handle it? ahem

From my perspective of player ...I will be happy to read names here  

So I may have a special attention if facing them at tables (expecially if more than one at the same table at time)

I suspect hopenotlate is colluding, or maybe just a bot

Same here  

[natmccoy]

Guys: Register for more of the Betcoin specific tournaments! It seems that there aren't many, just the "Bankroll Builder"'s, a late night 25mBTC entry and a few satellites. There is only one Betcoin specific Sit&Go currently listed and it has 0 registrations. Maybe there are more that I'm not aware of?

I know the WPN MTTs have way more action and players, but open up a Betcoin tourney when you're in a cash game or another MTT. I recommend this for a few reasons:

(1) We keep the rake in Betcoin, showing our support for the site and bitcoin. (The bitcoin deposit options on the other WPN skins are annoying compared to how easy it is on Betcoin, and other WPN skins have NO bitcoin withdrawal options (plus the Blackchip withdrawal fees are just egregious), vote with your money)

(2) Affiliate payouts are higher for Betcoin specific tourneys, this also helps to keep the money in our little ecosystem.

(3) Allows people to use their 'Tourney Money' that is awarded through surprise boxes.

(4) The more popular the Betcoin specific tournaments are, the more reason people have to move from the other WPN skins to our site, thus increasing ring game traffic, which will then give SWCpoker players more reason to move over.


TLDR; Play more Betcoin-specific tournaments! You can find them by filtering for only "tourney money".

EDIT: A thought for those who control Betcoin poker games, this is important. Create some mBTC-only tournaments that run at a scheduled time if they have at least 2 players. They must have a guarantee, but you can start small. Initial guarantee can be like 5 buy-ins, then increase it as they get more traffic. Maybe that's what you're trying to do with the "Bankroll Builder" tournaments, but for some reason they don't seem to run, perhaps if you forced them to run at a scheduled time rather than what you're doing now (waiting for whatever the minimum player count is then de-listing them when it isn't met.) Maybe the minimum player count is too high at the moment? Once people see that a tournament is in late-registration and has overlay, they are likely to join and eventually push it over guarantee.

EDIT2: I saw something about "jackpot SNG's" or something to that effect referenced a couple pages back, will those be Betcoin-specific sit and gos?