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March 20, 2014, 11:21:00 PM
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I agree, there are bears with their fingers on the trigger. I can feel it. it is not certain that that they will give in, but the chart looks very threatening right now. a move down now would be the continuation of an exponential fall.

it's been a stand off with little trade for the last 2 weeks, so there is 2 weeks worth of price action coming up. I'd expect at least a $50 move.

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March 21, 2014, 12:44:04 AM
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huobi breaking out of a wedge on the 15min chart.... could be a volatile hour coming up. So they say, wedges are terminal, to some degree.  so possibly we will return to 3650 before a larger move down.

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March 21, 2014, 04:43:04 AM
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15m makes it look like it wants to bounce.
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March 21, 2014, 04:52:47 AM
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Speaking of "bouncing,"  haven't we had substantial dips before we have had major rises in price?  Perhaps I am just being my usual optimistic bullish self though. Wink

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March 21, 2014, 05:03:33 AM
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Speaking of "bouncing,"  haven't we had substantial dips before we have had major rises in price?  Perhaps I am just being my usual optimistic bullish self though. Wink

Seriously... it's not possible for so many people to think that Bitcoin will eventually go to the moon and simultaneously have a constant downward slide... I think this will spring upwards pretty violently soon (as Bitcoin tends to do).

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March 21, 2014, 05:55:34 AM
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we still haven't seen any volume worth mentioning. I think the big move is yet to come. considering the proportions so far, I am now expecting it to pass 550.

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March 21, 2014, 05:56:18 AM
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Speaking of "bouncing,"  haven't we had substantial dips before we have had major rises in price?  Perhaps I am just being my usual optimistic bullish self though. Wink

Seriously... it's not possible for so many people to think that Bitcoin will eventually go to the moon and simultaneously have a constant downward slide... I think this will spring upwards pretty violently soon (as Bitcoin tends to do).

The people who believe it will go to the moon are not the people who can take it there. Bitcoin's userbase must constantly grow, and it does, at an exponential speed.

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March 21, 2014, 06:34:20 AM
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Speaking of "bouncing,"  haven't we had substantial dips before we have had major rises in price?  Perhaps I am just being my usual optimistic bullish self though. Wink

Seriously... it's not possible for so many people to think that Bitcoin will eventually go to the moon and simultaneously have a constant downward slide... I think this will spring upwards pretty violently soon (as Bitcoin tends to do).

The people who believe it will go to the moon are not the people who can take it there. Bitcoin's userbase must constantly grow, and it does, at an exponential speed.

Do you foresee a Russian oligarch, or someone like that, deciding to throw 100 million dollars or so (a small part of his fortune) into Bitcoin in a moment of desperation in order to avoid a financial confiscation of some sort? I am not someone like that, but if I were a controversial person who faced a 50 percent possibility of having someone like Vladimir Putin or Xi Jin Ping seize all my assets within the next 5 years, I would certainly have enough confidence in Bitcoin to think that it would be a wise decision to hedge against total loss of all traditional assets by putting a relatively small portion of my wealth into something that cannot be seized, so that I could still be super-rich after being persecuted. How likely do you think this is and how you take this possibility into your calculations?
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March 21, 2014, 07:07:30 AM
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15m makes it look like it wants to bounce.


LOL nice.

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March 21, 2014, 07:17:39 AM
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huobi breaking out of a wedge on the 15min chart.... could be a volatile hour coming up. So they say, wedges are terminal, to some degree.  so possibly we will return to 3650 before a larger move down.

^^ accurate aye  Grin

I wasnt expecting it to be this sharp though.

Im stepping aside until this totally loses momentum. maybe I can get it an a better price.

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March 21, 2014, 07:22:33 AM
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Had sell orders at 607 for the bounce, damn it!

Anyways, I'm expecting this to head south soon for (probably) lower lows.
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March 21, 2014, 07:51:19 AM
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that pump has changed the trajectory of the exponential curve down swing, though it remains in tact. this is probably a good thing, because the broader the base, the harder the fall.

maybe though it will also take a bit longer than we might wish  Sad

EDIT - I will be adding to my short aggressively if it passes 3638 - that will mark the market buy order filled. already the best of the order has disappeared from the order book.

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March 21, 2014, 11:15:39 AM
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"China's central bank has issued a document on March 18, April 15 asked to stop all Bitcoin transactions."

http://live.sina.com.cn/zt/l/v/finance/globalnews1/

If true, how hard would bitcoin be hit?
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March 21, 2014, 11:47:42 AM
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"China's central bank has issued a document on March 18, April 15 asked to stop all Bitcoin transactions."

http://live.sina.com.cn/zt/l/v/finance/globalnews1/

If true, how hard would bitcoin be hit?

Google translate:

"China's central bank reportedly has issued a document on March 18, April 15 asked to stop all Bitcoin transactions. So far the central bank noncommittal on the news."
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March 21, 2014, 12:20:21 PM
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total fabrication, it seems

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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March 21, 2014, 12:55:02 PM
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https://twitter.com/ruima/status/446981681606447104

I think Monero (XMR) is very interesting.
https://moneroeconomy.com/faq/why-monero-matters
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March 21, 2014, 12:58:29 PM
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http://live.sina.com.cn/zt/l/v/finance/globalnews1/

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March 21, 2014, 02:01:38 PM
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Its just a bustle in your hedgerow, jimmy

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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March 21, 2014, 03:48:32 PM
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Daily still pretty ugly.



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March 21, 2014, 05:24:41 PM
Last edit: March 21, 2014, 05:59:51 PM by AnonyMint
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Neglected Estonian Manor House to be Turned Into Bitcoin Center
http://news.err.ee/v/economy/53ba6308-7ca1-4b4a-9a52-0156165267d6

such news

960,000 Euros.

Risto, in all due respect (genuine friend), in my opinion you should have stuck to trading.

Those who want to launch crypto-currency businesses will hire (or be) programmers.

Buying old buildings is a very roundabout way to involve programmers.

The new elite will not be those who held the most crypto-currency units, rather it will be the ones who know how to create technology within the ecosystem. We are moving away from stored capital and to active knowledge. We are moving away from human organization to algorithmic organization. Math will trump social and capital ranking.

Stay within your core expertise, or possibly lose everything getting sucked deeper into a bad decision that you can't abort.

> * Why did you choose Malla manor?

Although I am a Finn and live in Finland, I have for long had most of my business in Estonia taken care by local staff. I wanted a big house that would be able to host large gatherings of Bitcoin people, and both the buying and operating such would have been much more expensive in Finland. To have a place with centuries of history at an affordable price would have been difficult.

Surely housing isn't 960,000 Euros in Finland nor Estonia.

The time to buy your expensive toys is when your formerly 10,000 BTC (apparently you sold a large chunk in the $600-700 range?) would be priced at $5,000 per BTC, so it would only be a couple percent of your net worth. Especially considering we are facing a global economic collapse by 2016ish, and the price of manors will plummet. Also I'm not clear if the 10,000 BTC was all yours or included BTC you were managing in a mixed fund. If that was all yours and if you still have a sizable position of silver, then perhaps the manor was only a few percent of your net worth? In which case, I simply advise to move forward more cautiously and see if it takes hold organically without becoming obsessed to the point where you can't stop if it is failing.

This wasn't a decision about efficiency, it was a decision about your dreams of what would be fun and neato. Unfortunately as far as I can see, the concept doesn't match where we are headed in the world.

960,000 is not the end of it. You have to refurbish, furnish, hire and manage employees, etc.. This is so debilitating and dilutive to your available time and focus for your core expertise, ditto for someone like me who is a programmer. Delegation is never 100%.

Estonia has a long culture of manors, and there were many to choose from. Malla immediately caught my attention because of its sheer beauty and majesty. Also the structural renovation had been carried out almost completely, which means that it could rather quickly be raised to its former glory given enough funds. The outbuildings are already restored and can be used immediately. But that is all logical stuff, the real reason is the Malla Spirit, which just captured me and did not let go...

> * How often do you visit Estonia? When the renovation of the manor is completed, are you planning to reside there?

I am visiting Estonia about 2 times per month currently. I have many businesses and staff there. I will continue to live in Finland with my family, but hopefully we will have a long summer holiday together in Malla this summer.

> * How is a bitcoin millionaire different from a cash millionaire?

A typical bitcoin millionaire is a very intelligent young (25-35) white male, with high earning capability.

I disagree with the bolded part. I see moderately intelligent guys investing in Bitcoin and not the most intelligent.

You are very effective as a focused trader. When you step outside your specialty, it will be revealed to you whether you are a polymath.

Again a friend should speak candidly, and respectfully.

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