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December 21, 2014, 10:15:29 PM |
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Thanks for sharing! Long but very interesting read..! Yeah, I read that a couple of days ago, its like a soap opera!
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December 21, 2014, 11:38:08 PM |
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Crypto Soap Opera's are enthralling. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.”
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glavos
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December 22, 2014, 12:39:52 AM Last edit: December 22, 2014, 01:02:47 AM by glavos |
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HKBvM
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December 22, 2014, 12:48:22 AM |
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I'm reluctant releasing just this info. so far considering our history with PoS. High PoS (of which we were meant to be a member of) reputation is in shambles after the last few months. I'm thinking 10%-15%. I just want standard and attractive 'normal'/'safe'/middle-ground variables and go from there. I'm sure discussions and demands for forks will follow for next year but lets just get a new wallet and PoS resolved.
10%-15% is a great range , beats most things in the physical world hands down. IMO the lowest a POS rate could go is 5%, anything below that and you are better off with utility stocks that pay out ~5%. Depending on how many days you set to hold the coin before it receives a POS reward, some people that do more trading , usually will not keep the coins long enough to gain the interest, so whatever rates you do decide on, your actual rate for the year will always be a little lower. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) P.S. Glad it worked out for You & PalmDetroit. Hello to the noble community and "thank you" to the genius who dumped on bittrex today to 6sat, giving me finally the opportunity to buy significant amounts below 10sat, which I was trying since 4 weeks now (I had already given up hope and started buying higher). I wouldnt call any POS rate an "interest rate" and I would never buy a coin based on the rate, as contrarily to the "real" world, POS rates are simply chosen but are not based on any economics. Most coins arent even around after a year and 20% "interest" doesnt mean anything if the market cant absorb the minted coins and the price plummets. In a couple of years I would like to see the POS rates linked to the coin's economy (I dont mean that vrc thingy), but right now the most important thing is to give people an incentive to stake their coins and secure the network. Some will disagree, but I think the rate shouldnt be lower than 5%. I never bother to open my bc wallet, the POS rate is 1%. Something like 8-10% sounds about right. About min coin age I prefer a lower one. If it is too high, people like me will never stake their coins as I am constantly trading, but moving my coins to my wallets whenever I can. The benefit from trading will almost always outweigh the benfit from staking (at least we like to think that), so with a higher min coin age you wont get more people to stake. I am sure rofo knows much more about that. On other news, very good day for noxt on polo, seems like fomo has finally arrived. The ICO was a success already. Sure if you compare it to the amount bitbay raised or some other ICOs it may look smaller, but if you substract the amount of coins the devs have bought for free themselves or even given to scammy pumpers like bobsurplus, it looks pretty good (assuming that is not the case here). To chime in on the comedy news: The bobsurplus is a good one, I read it earlier. The other one for this week is, that our beloved troll barabbas' (you all know him?) is an aging mexican actor called Jose de Vega. http://www.josedevega.com/isnt the internet a wonderfull place?
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Honeypot
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December 22, 2014, 02:32:07 AM |
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I'm reluctant releasing just this info. so far considering our history with PoS. High PoS (of which we were meant to be a member of) reputation is in shambles after the last few months. I'm thinking 10%-15%. I just want standard and attractive 'normal'/'safe'/middle-ground variables and go from there. I'm sure discussions and demands for forks will follow for next year but lets just get a new wallet and PoS resolved.
10%-15% is a great range , beats most things in the physical world hands down. IMO the lowest a POS rate could go is 5%, anything below that and you are better off with utility stocks that pay out ~5%. Depending on how many days you set to hold the coin before it receives a POS reward, some people that do more trading , usually will not keep the coins long enough to gain the interest, so whatever rates you do decide on, your actual rate for the year will always be a little lower. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) P.S. Glad it worked out for You & PalmDetroit. Hello to the noble community and "thank you" to the genius who dumped on bittrex today to 6sat, giving me finally the opportunity to buy significant amounts below 10sat, which I was trying since 4 weeks now (I had already given up hope and started buying higher). I wouldnt call any POS rate an "interest rate" and I would never buy a coin based on the rate, as contrarily to the "real" world, POS rates are simply chosen but are not based on any economics. Most coins arent even around after a year and 20% "interest" doesnt mean anything if the market cant absorb the minted coins and the price plummets. In a couple of years I would like to see the POS rates linked to the coin's economy (I dont mean that vrc thingy), but right now the most important thing is to give people an incentive to stake their coins and secure the network. Some will disagree, but I think the rate shouldnt be lower than 5%. I never bother to open my bc wallet, the POS rate is 1%. Something like 8-10% sounds about right. About min coin age I prefer a lower one. If it is too high, people like me will never stake their coins as I am constantly trading, but moving my coins to my wallets whenever I can. The benefit from trading will almost always outweigh the benfit from staking (at least we like to think that), so with a higher min coin age you wont get more people to stake. I am sure rofo knows much more about that. On other news, very good day for noxt on polo, seems like fomo has finally arrived. The ICO was a success already. Sure if you compare it to the amount bitbay raised or some other ICOs it may look smaller, but if you substract the amount of coins the devs have bought for free themselves or even given to scammy pumpers like bobsurplus, it looks pretty good (assuming that is not the case here). To chime in on the comedy news: The bobsurplus is a good one, I read it earlier. The other one for this week is, that our beloved troll barabbas' (you all know him?) is an aging mexican actor called Jose de Vega. http://www.josedevega.com/isnt the internet a wonderfull place? Rofo released/disclosed his personal financial history on the noblemovement website here: https://www.noblemovement.com/public-ledger/From what anyone can tell the man's been barely surviving AND supporting his crypto projects out of his own pocket, never mind all the transparency with the public ledgers and nobl premine from day 1 (most of which have been spent on various charity projects, give aways, development payments, etc) BEFORE it became popular to do so. All this, from january of 2014 when the golden age of scams and pump/dumps have been the norm. I'd say that takes the cake.
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james6546
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December 22, 2014, 08:25:03 AM |
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To chime in on the comedy news: The bobsurplus is a good one, I read it earlier. The other one for this week is, that our beloved troll barabbas' (you all know him?) is an aging mexican actor called Jose de Vega. http://www.josedevega.com/isnt the internet a wonderfull place? Is that actually true? Pretty funny if it is! There a link to the convo?
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RiverBoatBTC
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December 22, 2014, 08:26:41 AM |
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scam coin STAY AWAY
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Rofo (OP)
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December 22, 2014, 08:28:29 AM |
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I'd say that takes the cake.
![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) scam coin STAY AWAY
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Honeypot
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December 22, 2014, 08:46:56 AM |
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I'd say that takes the cake.
![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) scam coin STAY AWAY
![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Some people want cheaper nobl to burn for noxt probably ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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HKBvM
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December 22, 2014, 09:21:08 AM |
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To chime in on the comedy news: The bobsurplus is a good one, I read it earlier. The other one for this week is, that our beloved troll barabbas' (you all know him?) is an aging mexican actor called Jose de Vega. http://www.josedevega.com/isnt the internet a wonderfull place? Is that actually true? Pretty funny if it is! There a link to the convo? have a look at the NAUT thread, which he hijacked and basically killed (there is a moderated thread opened by a community member now): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=591114.5720Someone stated that Jose de Vega has deleted his tweets, but I havent checked that. Have a look at the youtube video on page 288 too. Honeypot, I rarely buy ICOs, because it makes it super easy for scammers. This is the exception, one of the reasons is rofo. I tried reading up on noble the last weeks, and what you wrote is totally my impression, too. I wouldnt be here otherwise. Sorry if it sounded differently, that wasnt intended at all.
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Honeypot
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December 22, 2014, 10:14:28 AM |
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To chime in on the comedy news: The bobsurplus is a good one, I read it earlier. The other one for this week is, that our beloved troll barabbas' (you all know him?) is an aging mexican actor called Jose de Vega. http://www.josedevega.com/isnt the internet a wonderfull place? Is that actually true? Pretty funny if it is! There a link to the convo? have a look at the NAUT thread, which he hijacked and basically killed (there is a moderated thread opened by a community member now): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=591114.5720Someone stated that Jose de Vega has deleted his tweets, but I havent checked that. Have a look at the youtube video on page 288 too. Honeypot, I rarely buy ICOs, because it makes it super easy for scammers. This is the exception, one of the reasons is rofo. I tried reading up on noble the last weeks, and what you wrote is totally my impression, too. I wouldnt be here otherwise. Sorry if it sounded differently, that wasnt intended at all. oh no was just commenting on riverboat's comment. Yes, I agree that rofo made all the difference possible. This is crowdfund done right, with long term vision not a bunch of hype raising buzzwords and obvious pump materials. Professionalism is in play now, and it's high time devoted, professional, and motivated people are supported by the community instead of being tossed on the wayside in favor of quick pump and dump groups.
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Wesiematic
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December 22, 2014, 01:18:05 PM |
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I'd say that takes the cake.
![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) scam coin STAY AWAY
![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) No scam coin, buy in if you can ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Nahh honestly sure is nothing, but i'm following Noble coin since they started and i'm saying: Noble is not a scam coin.
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there is always a light at the end of the tunnel...
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voephilis
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December 22, 2014, 01:20:57 PM Last edit: December 22, 2014, 01:53:15 PM by voephilis |
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I'd say that takes the cake.
![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) scam coin STAY AWAY
![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) No scam coin, buy in if you can ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Nahh honestly sure is nothing, but i'm following Noble coin since they started and i'm saying: Noble is not a scam coin. BitMixer gives you 0.0007 BTC per post. Probably he just wants to make more BTC this week^^
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james6546
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December 22, 2014, 02:46:25 PM |
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I'd say that takes the cake.
![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) scam coin STAY AWAY
![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) No scam coin, buy in if you can ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Nahh honestly sure is nothing, but i'm following Noble coin since they started and i'm saying: Noble is not a scam coin. BitMixer gives you 0.0007 BTC per post. Probably he just wants to make more BTC this week^^ Not a very popular way of doing it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Hueristic
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December 22, 2014, 04:32:19 PM Last edit: December 22, 2014, 04:50:21 PM by Hueristic |
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scam coin STAY AWAY
Troll, Stay away. You were already on ignore but someone had to quote you. BTW Moron, you don't get any BTC because you have neg trust. LOL Fool New rules since Dec, 17 2014
- We pay 0.0007 BTC per post (max 0.035/week). - Users allowed: Full Member, Senior Member, Hero Member, Legendary Member, Staff - No minimum weekly posts
Rules - You must have no negative feedback points - Only constructive posts! If majority of the posts is in off-topic sections, bump, spam, few words, picture - you will be banned forever. - No other signatures are allowed at the same time. - Must post in multiple sections of the forum.
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CryptoJohn
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December 23, 2014, 12:06:21 AM |
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New rules since Dec, 17 2014
- We pay 0.0007 BTC per post (max 0.035/week). - Users allowed: Full Member, Senior Member, Hero Member, Legendary Member, Staff - No minimum weekly posts
Rules - You must have no negative feedback points - Only constructive posts! If majority of the posts is in off-topic sections, bump, spam, few words, picture - you will be banned forever. - No other signatures are allowed at the same time. - Must post in multiple sections of the forum. Where is this applicable?
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glavos
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December 23, 2014, 01:03:37 AM |
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December 23, 2014, 08:24:04 PM |
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whats the difference between NOBL and NOXT? which one is best to buy?
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December 23, 2014, 11:09:46 PM |
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whats the difference between NOBL and NOXT? which one is best to buy?
Here is what I understand: Noble is a scrypt based decentralized cryptocurrency similar to litecoin in origin, developed in January 2014 by Jason L. Curby (Rofo). NOXT (once again developed by Rofo) is a crowdfunded asset colored coin that is still in the crowdfunding phase, using the 2.0 platform specifically branded and made for business purposes. Its crowdfund marketcap is very low and affordable, so it's a good chance to invest early as a long term investment. At the moment, I believe NOXT is the best option for purchase - you can buy them with nxt on secureae ( https://trade.secureae.com/#6780060819348751348) OR buy with BTC on poloniex here: https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_noxtI highly encourage you to check out the NOXT ANN that contains answers to most of your questions: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=841741.0;allOnce again, I highly recommend purchasing NOXT and holding onto it. Ripple is a good example of how long term thinking and early purchases can be to your benefit in the long run. Think of this as a good opportunity for the future.
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voephilis
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December 24, 2014, 12:20:23 PM |
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huge interest in NOBL on the exchanges ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) people like NOBL but aswell it looks like some do speculate on a higher price after the burning.
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