[Antminer S1 Sales open] Price changes daily, now 0.414 BTC for 180GH/s

[Jacko]

Guys, please answer my questions above. Do you think it's worth it if ROI is 5 months? It's 3 months without VAT and PSU, but 5 with them.

I thought bitmain put something like $300 or something on the invoice in order to keep vat down, am I wrong? Great if they are since it increases profitability

After some trouble with UPS and E.U. Customs regarding undervaluing the miners, Bitmain now ships with DHL in the E.U and declares reasonable value. This is the BTC you paid him converted to USD and put on the invoice. This means here in the U.K you can convert BTC to USD to GBP and 20% of that plus a charge by DHL for paying Customs on your behalf is what you will pay.

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[jeppe]

Guys, please answer my questions above. Do you think it's worth it if ROI is 5 months? It's 3 months without VAT and PSU, but 5 with them.

I thought bitmain put something like $300 or something on the invoice in order to keep vat down, am I wrong? Great if they are since it increases profitability

After some trouble with UPS and E.U. Customs regarding undervaluing the miners, Bitmain now ships with DHL in the E.U and declares reasonable value. This is the BTC you paid him converted to USD and put on the invoice. This means here in the U.K you can convert BTC to USD to GBP and 20% of that plus a charge by DHL for paying Customs on your behalf is what you will pay.

Jacko

Thanks for this ! Im in the uk too. Do i just pay for costums on delivery or how
JT

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After some trouble with UPS and E.U. Customs regarding undervaluing the miners, Bitmain now ships with DHL in the E.U and declares reasonable value. This is the BTC you paid him converted to USD and put on the invoice. This means here in the U.K you can convert BTC to USD to GBP and 20% of that plus a charge by DHL for paying Customs on your behalf is what you will pay.

Jacko

Thanks for this ! Im in the uk too. Do i just pay for costums on delivery or how
JT

If it's UPS you pay the driver when he turns up with cheque or cash only (The one's I got yesterday were about £85 each)

I always request UPS for the deliveries so unsure of DHL but from shipments I've received in the past from other vendors they have contacted me in advance to pay by card, sometimes they send me a bill later

[S4VV4S]

AVOID DHL, DHL is a bitch when it comes to customs.
Even if Bitmain ships with invoices they ask for more.

[Syke]

Guys, please answer my questions above. Do you think it's worth it if ROI is 5 months? It's 3 months without VAT and PSU, but 5 with them.

I don't like a 5-month ROI. But I think your 30% adjustment estimate is too high. We haven't had a 30% yet this year. Rerun your estimate with 20% adjustments.

[Remember remember the 5th of November]

Guys, please answer my questions above. Do you think it's worth it if ROI is 5 months? It's 3 months without VAT and PSU, but 5 with them.

I don't like a 5-month ROI. But I think your 30% adjustment estimate is too high. We haven't had a 30% yet this year. Rerun your estimate with 20% adjustments.

With 20% according to http://www.bitreturn.com/ it's 3 months and a half roughly, this is to pay for the miner, VAT, PSU. Without VAT and PSU it would pay itself in just 2 months and a half of 24/7 mining.

Some people have been speculating that with all this unloading of miners(and within the 5 months 1th/s miners) that this 180gh/s will not make the ROI in bitcoins.

[shaxs]

Guys, please answer my questions above. Do you think it's worth it if ROI is 5 months? It's 3 months without VAT and PSU, but 5 with them.

I don't like a 5-month ROI. But I think your 30% adjustment estimate is too high. We haven't had a 30% yet this year. Rerun your estimate with 20% adjustments.

I calculated a 50 day ROI for me. Since we have no VAT and our electricity is pretty low. For me it is less than 10 cents a KW. I think I am at .095 / kwh.

[Remember remember the 5th of November]

Guys, please answer my questions above. Do you think it's worth it if ROI is 5 months? It's 3 months without VAT and PSU, but 5 with them.

I don't like a 5-month ROI. But I think your 30% adjustment estimate is too high. We haven't had a 30% yet this year. Rerun your estimate with 20% adjustments.

I calculated a 50 day ROI for me. Since we have no VAT and our electricity is pretty low. For me it is less than 10 cents a KW. I think I am at .095 / kwh.

Did you factor in the PSU that you will purchase? Also I strongly suggest looking at whether you will ROI your Bitcoins, not the $.

[shaxs]

Guys, please answer my questions above. Do you think it's worth it if ROI is 5 months? It's 3 months without VAT and PSU, but 5 with them.

I don't like a 5-month ROI. But I think your 30% adjustment estimate is too high. We haven't had a 30% yet this year. Rerun your estimate with 20% adjustments.

I calculated a 50 day ROI for me. Since we have no VAT and our electricity is pretty low. For me it is less than 10 cents a KW. I think I am at .095 / kwh.

Did you factor in the PSU that you will purchase? Also I strongly suggest looking at whether you will ROI your Bitcoins, not the $.

Yes I did. And I am completely new to BTC so I have bought my bitcoins in cash. So I am using the cash value I used to purchase enough to buy an Antminer.

[Hunterbunter]

Does each antminer need its own PSU? Or can they share?

[flounderella]

Does each antminer need its own PSU? Or can they share?

If you plan to overclock, I would recommend Corsair AX1200 (two ants can share) but its more expensive. Frankly cheaper to just get 2x CX750s. Once you start mining, you will probably mine for a while, so power supply always comes in handy even when asics get obsolete

[S4VV4S]

Guys, please answer my questions above. Do you think it's worth it if ROI is 5 months? It's 3 months without VAT and PSU, but 5 with them.

I don't like a 5-month ROI. But I think your 30% adjustment estimate is too high. We haven't had a 30% yet this year. Rerun your estimate with 20% adjustments.

I calculated a 50 day ROI for me. Since we have no VAT and our electricity is pretty low. For me it is less than 10 cents a KW. I think I am at .095 / kwh.

Can I come and live with you?

Seriously, where do you live? (if you don't mind me asking)

[shaxs]

Guys, please answer my questions above. Do you think it's worth it if ROI is 5 months? It's 3 months without VAT and PSU, but 5 with them.

I don't like a 5-month ROI. But I think your 30% adjustment estimate is too high. We haven't had a 30% yet this year. Rerun your estimate with 20% adjustments.

I calculated a 50 day ROI for me. Since we have no VAT and our electricity is pretty low. For me it is less than 10 cents a KW. I think I am at .095 / kwh.

Can I come and live with you?

Seriously, where do you live? (if you don't mind me asking)

Texas. Energy here is de-regulated to the point where we get to choose our electricity provider. I as just looking at http://www.powertochoose.org/en-us/Plan/Results and I can get a 6 month FIXED rate contract for 8.4¢ per kWh.... not too bad!

[hottnikkz]

Bitmain, can I get any unused coupons??


and again, when do you approximate to ship/deliver?

btw....thanks for the hardwork.

Coupons were issued to the most recent customers, where we are using as a guarantee to help our customers get a satisfying ROI and bring more sales. If you did not get the coupon, you must be a customer who has bought the miner long time ago. I think you may already pretty sure about the investment performance of S1  

Hi silly question, if I bought it recently from an approved vendor (Jones Gear), might I be eligible for a coupon if I show a receipt of some kind? Thanks so much.

[qosmio]

Does each antminer need its own PSU? Or can they share?

I set up a share:
3 ants with 2 dell 750 total of 6 blades , 3 blades one dell and 3 the other, and oc to 375mhz no problem and another setup with 2 old dell psu from desktop pc connect to one s1, these old dell psu have 90% or better efficientcy and cost almost nothing as long they have 20 amps at 12 volt one can use for each side.

[GenTarkin]

Does each antminer need its own PSU? Or can they share?

I set up a share:
3 ants with 2 dell 750 total of 6 blades , 3 blades one dell and 3 the other, and oc to 375mhz no problem and another setup with 2 old dell psu from desktop pc connect to one s1, these old dell psu have 90% or better efficientcy and cost almost nothing as long they have 20 amps at 12 volt one can use for each side.

They dont have 90% effeciency at least in my exprience. My gold 750W PSU's get 30-40W less per antminer than the dell server PSUs .. nonethless the dell and HP server PSU's are a great value!

[ldh37]

Does each antminer need its own PSU? Or can they share?

They can share but the efficiency of the PSU makes a big difference.  I run 2 ANTS OC'd on an OCZ 1000W and 2 more OC'd on an EVGA 1000W with no problem.  Both PSUs are 80+ GOLD and my Kill-A-Watt shows they are pulling between 800W-805W at the wall.  By contrast, I have a single ANT OC'd on a 700W 80+ BRONZE PSU and it pulls 460W at the wall so 2 OC'd ANTS on 1000W BRONZE PSU would probably be a bad idea.

[malin]

So, I still waiting for my ants, I ordered them 05 march and still doesn't have any information about sipping

[BillTech]

So, I still waiting for my ants, I ordered them 05 march and still doesn't have any information about sipping

that's a bummer looks like I get one tomorrow 3 business days shipping thx bitmain for fast shipping

[alexrossi]

So, I still waiting for my ants, I ordered them 05 march and still doesn't have any information about sipping

Send a pm to bitmain, maybe they have forgotten to update tracking in your order