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[coins101]

Adam Back tweeted Darkcoin
Adam Back tweeted Darkcoin
Adam Back tweeted Darkcoin!!!

@adam3us
"DarkCoin seems to be bitcoin fork with a multi-hash PoW and a p2p CoinJoin impl.  DarkWallet does the same thing with BTC?"

I invited him to join the discussion (still trembling)…

@eduffield - perhaps you should connect with him…

I tweeted at him without knowing who he was, then looked him up... Like anything I said was of any value to him!

The claim is that dark wallet is sufficient. It might be. don't know yet. Is Dark Wallet an extra step that's needed out of bitcoin?  Having said that, there is no need to exchange into darkcoin.



So people have a choice - Dark Wallet (when its ready), DarkSend (when its ready) or Zerocash (when its ready).

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[porcupine87]

Seems to me that alot of people dont really care about the coin, or its future, by sticking to a pool that has more than 50% of all the hashing power, they are sending a bad signal to potential interrested users/investors

Watch the difficulty.  Maxcoin gained quite a lot of miners yesterday when the price started being pumped because the devs are halving the coins next week.

Darkcoin will set off when darksend works fine. I don't know but are there people still sceptical about the mechanism or that the dev will not archieve it?

[child_harold]

Adam Back tweeted Darkcoin
Adam Back tweeted Darkcoin
Adam Back tweeted Darkcoin!!!

@adam3us
"DarkCoin seems to be bitcoin fork with a multi-hash PoW and a p2p CoinJoin impl.  DarkWallet does the same thing with BTC?"

I invited him to join the discussion (still trembling)…

@eduffield - perhaps you should connect with him…

I tweeted at him without knowing who he was, then looked him up... Like anything I said was of any value to him!

The claim is that dark wallet is sufficient. It might be. don't know yet. Is Dark Wallet an extra step that's needed out of bitcoin?  Having said that, there is no need to exchange into darkcoin.



So people have a choice - Dark Wallet (when its ready), DarkSend (when its ready) or Zerocash (when its ready).

We need a Darkcoin vs Darkwallet
Which will offer greater anonymity? I'm assuming Darkcoin since all this is part of its core protocol…

Can somebody please shed more light on darkwallet?

[coins101]

We need a Darkcoin vs Darkwallet
Which will offer greater anonymity? I'm assuming Darkcoin since all this is part of its core protocol…

Can somebody please shed more light on darkwallet?

http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7892/shedding-light-on-the-dark-wallet/

runs via chrome or firefox plugin

EDIT - it seems to be a wallet client. reading their home page

https://darkwallet.unsystem.net/

[Standhaft]

Seems to me that alot of people dont really care about the coin, or its future, by sticking to a pool that has more than 50% of all the hashing power, they are sending a bad signal to potential interrested users/investors

i mine at coinmine.pl what other good and STABLE  SECUR pool do you recomend? i can switch the pool np

http://darkcoin.mine.nu
http://drk.suchpool.com
http://lotterymining.com
http://drkpool.com

lotterymining is my own pool, but i really dont care where you mine, the most important part is, we need to get it leveled out more, it doesnt look good when its one pool that has more than 50%.

I tried almost every pool by then and coinmine, lotterymining and drkpool all give me 0.0% Rejects. Maybe one or two rejects a day but much less than P2P Pool. I'm currently trying P2P pool how that works out for DRK, but it hasnt been 48 hours to say if gives as much DRK as the pools.

Really guys, move your miners off coinmine. Every pool gives you the same amount of DRK and we don't have to worry for 51% attacks. This is a serious issue. We should have way more big pools like coinmine and suchpool percentage wise..

[AlexGR]

Hi guys, tried to use Sgminer to mine Dkcoins but only get 45-47 khash/s with my Gigabyte 6850

Here is my .bat file:

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
setx DISPLAY 0
sgminer -o stratum+tcp://drkpool.com:3333 -u xxx -p xxx -I 18 -g 1 -w 128 --thread-concurrency 6144

Using Catalyst 13.12 and SDK 2.9, installed sgminer as listed in the readme file except for the "source code" part which was not so clear to me.

Any idea?

You need a special sgminer 4.10, not any sgminer. By the look of your work units (it should be in the 0.0xx range) you are probably not using sph-sgminer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=475795.0

For reference, my 6850 can get ~1050 KHs @960 MHz.

You should also use -k darkcoin when mining darkcoin. (that could also be at fault because you don't have that in your command line).

Hi Alex, thank you for your quick reply.
I downloaded the sph-miner and it's now working. Since you have a 6850 card, could you please post your bat or config settings?

It's pretty basic really:

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
sgminer.exe -I 18 -s 1 -Q 10 --kernel darkcoin -o stratum+tcp://drkpool.com:3333 -u MYUSERNAME -p MYPASSWORD --no-adl

Initially I had it on -i 19 but I reduced it to -i 18 as it is more responsive and has less rejects / better operation.

I used --no-adl because it didn't start otherwise.

-s and -Q are just personal preferences, it could work as well with higher values of -s and lower values of -Q.

My card is a sapphire 6850 and I clock it through trixx. Mem speeds seem to make no difference whether 300 or 1000 MHz, while gpu core speed is set at 958-960 up from 775. Higher than 960 I start running into problems.

[blajde]

Did I need to update the wallet to 0.9 ?

How to? Remove everything in wallet folder except .dat and DL 0.9 version in same folder = solves everything? No nodes need to be added ( no nodes have been tampered with before ).

Appriciate help

[Standhaft]

Did I need to update the wallet to 0.9 ?

How to? Remove everything in wallet folder except .dat and DL 0.9 version in same folder = solves everything? No nodes need to be added ( no nodes have been tampered with before ).

Appriciate help

thats exactly how to do, but save your wallet.dat to a different place before just in case something goes wrong

[coins101]

Did I need to update the wallet to 0.9 ?

How to? Remove everything in wallet folder except .dat and DL 0.9 version in same folder = solves everything? No nodes need to be added ( no nodes have been tampered with before ).

Appriciate help

There was a hard fork around this point https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5705503#msg5705503

not sure where, but if you follow a few pages from there you will see about updating wallets.

[luke997]

Seems to me that alot of people dont really care about the coin, or its future, by sticking to a pool that has more than 50% of all the hashing power, they are sending a bad signal to potential interrested users/investors

i mine at coinmine.pl what other good and STABLE  SECUR pool do you recomend? i can switch the pool np

I've switched to suchpool.pw and actually I have a bit better payouts than on coinmine!

Somehow coinmine estimates payouts to be far higher than the actual, I ended up earning more at suchpool.

[fra55]

Hi guys, tried to use Sgminer to mine Dkcoins but only get 45-47 khash/s with my Gigabyte 6850

Here is my .bat file:

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
setx DISPLAY 0
sgminer -o stratum+tcp://drkpool.com:3333 -u xxx -p xxx -I 18 -g 1 -w 128 --thread-concurrency 6144

Using Catalyst 13.12 and SDK 2.9, installed sgminer as listed in the readme file except for the "source code" part which was not so clear to me.

Any idea?

You need a special sgminer 4.10, not any sgminer. By the look of your work units (it should be in the 0.0xx range) you are probably not using sph-sgminer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=475795.0

For reference, my 6850 can get ~1050 KHs @960 MHz.

You should also use -k darkcoin when mining darkcoin. (that could also be at fault because you don't have that in your command line).

Hi Alex, thank you for your quick reply.
I downloaded the sph-miner and it's now working. Since you have a 6850 card, could you please post your bat or config settings?

It's pretty basic really:

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
sgminer.exe -I 18 -s 1 -Q 10 --kernel darkcoin -o stratum+tcp://drkpool.com:3333 -u MYUSERNAME -p MYPASSWORD --no-adl

Initially I had it on -i 19 but I reduced it to -i 18 as it is more responsive and has less rejects / better operation.

I used --no-adl because it didn't start otherwise.

-s and -Q are just personal preferences, it could work as well with higher values of -s and lower values of -Q.

My card is a sapphire 6850 and I clock it through trixx. Mem speeds seem to make no difference whether 300 or 1000 MHz, while gpu core speed is set at 958-960 up from 775. Higher than 960 I start running into problems.

Thank you. On my card, memory speed from 500 to 1000 mhz gave me about 80-90 khash/sec more...strange to say! On LTC mining there was actually no difference. GPU clock is 775 mhz.
If I may ask, what Q and S stand for?

[AlexGR]

Hi guys, tried to use Sgminer to mine Dkcoins but only get 45-47 khash/s with my Gigabyte 6850

Here is my .bat file:

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
setx DISPLAY 0
sgminer -o stratum+tcp://drkpool.com:3333 -u xxx -p xxx -I 18 -g 1 -w 128 --thread-concurrency 6144

Using Catalyst 13.12 and SDK 2.9, installed sgminer as listed in the readme file except for the "source code" part which was not so clear to me.

Any idea?

You need a special sgminer 4.10, not any sgminer. By the look of your work units (it should be in the 0.0xx range) you are probably not using sph-sgminer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=475795.0

For reference, my 6850 can get ~1050 KHs @960 MHz.

You should also use -k darkcoin when mining darkcoin. (that could also be at fault because you don't have that in your command line).

Hi Alex, thank you for your quick reply.
I downloaded the sph-miner and it's now working. Since you have a 6850 card, could you please post your bat or config settings?

It's pretty basic really:

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
sgminer.exe -I 18 -s 1 -Q 10 --kernel darkcoin -o stratum+tcp://drkpool.com:3333 -u MYUSERNAME -p MYPASSWORD --no-adl

Initially I had it on -i 19 but I reduced it to -i 18 as it is more responsive and has less rejects / better operation.

I used --no-adl because it didn't start otherwise.

-s and -Q are just personal preferences, it could work as well with higher values of -s and lower values of -Q.

My card is a sapphire 6850 and I clock it through trixx. Mem speeds seem to make no difference whether 300 or 1000 MHz, while gpu core speed is set at 958-960 up from 775. Higher than 960 I start running into problems.

Thank you. On my card, memory speed from 500 to 1000 mhz gave me about 80-90 khash/sec more...strange to say! On LTC mining there was actually no difference. GPU clock is 775 mhz.
If I may ask, what Q and S stand for?

Hmm.. probably the sapphire is different (?). You can raise the gpu clock - it'll make significant difference and the power draw/temps will still be quite low because DRK mining is far cooler / far less energy-drawing than litecoin.

Q = shares queued to process.
S = time dedicated for each share. If nothing is found after one second, it changes to another share. Theoretically, one has the same chances whether it is -s 1 or -s 10, but I like -s 1 because it reduces variance with an increased number of shares tried.

[Standhaft]

Now that the "problem" with rewards per year is solved with a result that pleases almost everybody, how is the crowdsourced logo+art (and website I think?) going along?

[fra55]

Hi guys, tried to use Sgminer to mine Dkcoins but only get 45-47 khash/s with my Gigabyte 6850

Here is my .bat file:

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
setx DISPLAY 0
sgminer -o stratum+tcp://drkpool.com:3333 -u xxx -p xxx -I 18 -g 1 -w 128 --thread-concurrency 6144

Using Catalyst 13.12 and SDK 2.9, installed sgminer as listed in the readme file except for the "source code" part which was not so clear to me.

Any idea?

You need a special sgminer 4.10, not any sgminer. By the look of your work units (it should be in the 0.0xx range) you are probably not using sph-sgminer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=475795.0

For reference, my 6850 can get ~1050 KHs @960 MHz.

You should also use -k darkcoin when mining darkcoin. (that could also be at fault because you don't have that in your command line).

Hi Alex, thank you for your quick reply.
I downloaded the sph-miner and it's now working. Since you have a 6850 card, could you please post your bat or config settings?

It's pretty basic really:

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
sgminer.exe -I 18 -s 1 -Q 10 --kernel darkcoin -o stratum+tcp://drkpool.com:3333 -u MYUSERNAME -p MYPASSWORD --no-adl

Initially I had it on -i 19 but I reduced it to -i 18 as it is more responsive and has less rejects / better operation.

I used --no-adl because it didn't start otherwise.

-s and -Q are just personal preferences, it could work as well with higher values of -s and lower values of -Q.

My card is a sapphire 6850 and I clock it through trixx. Mem speeds seem to make no difference whether 300 or 1000 MHz, while gpu core speed is set at 958-960 up from 775. Higher than 960 I start running into problems.

Thank you. On my card, memory speed from 500 to 1000 mhz gave me about 80-90 khash/sec more...strange to say! On LTC mining there was actually no difference. GPU clock is 775 mhz.
If I may ask, what Q and S stand for?

Hmm.. probably the sapphire is different (?). You can raise the gpu clock - it'll make significant difference and the power draw/temps will still be quite low because DRK mining is far cooler / far less energy-drawing than litecoin.

Q = shares queued to process.
S = time dedicated for each share. If nothing is found after one second, it changes to another share. Theoretically, one has the same chances whether it is -s 1 or -s 10, but I like -s 1 because it reduces variance with an increased number of shares tried.

Well with the Gigabyte, changing memory clock affects mining speed...e.g., if I lower the speed from 1 Ghz to 700, I get 30-40 khash less.
I'm trying to work with the GPU clock and check how mining speed changes.

Anyway, my sgminer with the - Q setting will not start, it points out "unknown command"..strange to say since for you it works fine

[chompyZ]

With the new attribute of 7% yearly reduction in coins set place, we made Darkcoin more 'rare'. This implies a somewhat more 'protective' store of value...
At the same time, since it protects the value better, bagholders will be less inclined to take darkcoins out of the pocket, and this imho reduces its 'currency' or merchantability traits (in economics: The velocity of money - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocity_of_money ).

I propose something that to the best of my limited knowledge / acquaintance has not been tried:

I assume that GPU miners will flood Darkcoin in months to come. As hash and difficulty will rise, we will hit the bottom reward of 5 Darkcoins every block.
My suggestion is not to stop there, but rather 'kick-in' (like a turbo engine that starts only at certain speed) another mechanism that will shorten block-rate time.

i.e. if we reach x5 the amount of hash required for producing a new block every 2.5min (with a reward of 5 DRK), then difficulty is set so that the block is generated every 30sec while the reward is sliced to 1/5 the minimum - aka 1 coin per fast block of 30sec.

This way, the total amount of reward stays the same but since we have 'so much' hash-power, we can benefit from a very fast confirmation rate. Such fast confirmation rate will obviously translate into a more convenient 'currency' (higher velocity of money). This will make Darkcoin shine as -
a) a great currency
b) a great store of value

*p.s. I know there are orphan blocks, forks, and less security the shorter the block rate is, but we are talking about a very high intensity of hashrate.

[Standhaft]

With the new attribute of 7% yearly reduction in coins set place, we made Darkcoin more 'rare'. This implies a somewhat more 'protective' store of value...
At the same time, since it protects the value better, bagholders will be less inclined to take darkcoins out of the pocket, and this imho reduces its 'currency' or merchantability traits (in economics: The velocity of money - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocity_of_money ).

I propose something that to the best of my limited knowledge / acquaintance has not been tried:

I assume that GPU miners will flood Darkcoin in months to come. As hash and difficulty will rise, we will hit the bottom reward of 5 Darkcoins every block.
My suggestion is not to stop there, but rather 'kick-in' (like a turbo engine that starts only at certain speed) another mechanism that will shorten block-rate time.

i.e. if we reach x5 the amount of hash required for producing a new block every 2.5min (with a reward of 5 DRK), then difficulty is set so that the block is generated every 30sec while the reward is sliced to 1/5 the minimum - aka 1 coin per fast block of 30sec.

This way, the total amount of reward stays the same but since we have 'so much' hash-power, we can benefit from a very fast confirmation rate. Such fast confirmation rate will obviously translate into a more convenient 'currency' (higher velocity of money). This will make Darkcoin shine as -
a) a great currency
b) a great store of value

*p.s. I know there are orphan blocks, forks, and less security the shorter the block rate is, but we are talking about a very high intensity of hashrate.

This might be a possibility, but you have to take into consideration that to reach the 5 DRK limit, we reach a Difficulty of 3400ish. This is comparable to 1100 in Scrypt. We would have a network hashrate of approx. 240 GH/s by then. 5 times that hashrate is basically impossible without ASICs unless this coin explodes so hard in its profitability and useability that almost every GPU miner moves to mine DRK

[chompyZ]

...unless this coin explodes so hard in its profitability and useability that almost every GPU miner moves to mine DRK

I agree this an overwhelmingly optimistic scenario, but i STRONGLY BELIEVE that the notion that 99% of cryptos are worthless in value is spreading throughout miners' notion as we speak, and with Asic coming soon, GPU miners will abandon all scamcoins and focus on 'One-[ASIC Resistant]-Winner takes all'.
That winner will not be selected based on fairytale stories, cure names and alike, but on STRONG technological advantage.

I do see Darkcoin, with its highly competent dev and attitude of breaking new frontiers as a strong contender of being that coin.

[Standhaft]

...unless this coin explodes so hard in its profitability and useability that almost every GPU miner moves to mine DRK

I agree this an overwhelmingly optimistic scenario, but i STRONGLY BELIEVE that the notion that 99% of cryptos are worthless in value is spreading throughout miners' notion as we speak, and with Asic coming soon, GPU miners will abandon all scamcoins and focus on 'One-[ASIC Resistant]-Winner takes all'.
That winner will not be selected based on fairytale stories, cure names and alike, but on STRONG technological advantage.

I do see Darkcoin, with its highly competent dev and attitude of breaking new frontiers as a strong contender of being that coin.

A too little community and a honestly bad looking website is probably holding back a lot of people looking for new homes after Doge etc. dropped in proftiability. For now

[dewdeded]

Where can I buy Dark? Which exchanges?

[blajde]

Where can I buy Dark? Which exchanges?

crytpsy, mintpal, c-cex etc