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[eightspaces]

Dont you think there's a risk of raising fears simply by pointing that out? Why even mention it? It might appear defensive if we emphasize how we dont condone a, b or c?

Darkcoin is more like electronic cash than Bitcoin - thats it.

If people could stop banging on about using it for dodgy activities that would be a start. Just shup up about your drugs - nobody cares what you do with your money. Thats the point.

Ok, that might be true.

Just frightening to think about  selling and buying humans, organs, drugs etc. with Darkcoin on the internet, not to mention all the scams that will be easily pulled off with Darkcoin.

Humans are scary. Old story.
Darkcoin is cash. What you do wit your cash is up to you.

The name DarkCoin already implies where it may be used best imo

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[Jungian]

Dont you think there's a risk of raising fears simply by pointing that out? Why even mention it? It might appear defensive if we emphasize how we dont condone a, b or c?

Darkcoin is more like electronic cash than Bitcoin - thats it.

If people could stop banging on about using it for dodgy activities that would be a start. Just shup up about your drugs - nobody cares what you do with your money. Thats the point.

Ok, that might be true.

Just frightening to think about  selling and buying humans, organs, drugs etc. with Darkcoin on the internet, not to mention all the scams that will be easily pulled off with Darkcoin.

Humans are scary. Old story.
Darkcoin is cash. What you do wit your cash is up to you.

And having a safe way to conduct transactions is a good thing. The very illegality of those things are what makes them so bad.
These is nothing intrinsically bad about drugs, but having made them illegal drives up risk HUGELY, and with that comes violent crime, bad quality, filled up prisons, war e.tc.

Having a safer way to conduct business drives down risk and that is good for everyone, except those who profit from the fear mongering and the steady stream of new inmates.

[eightspaces]

There is nothing intrinsically bad about drugs, but having made them illegal drives up risk HUGELY, and with that comes violent crime, bad quality, filled up prisons, war e.tc.

+1 ofc

[tifozi]

Miners!!

Please start moving hash rate into the p2pool nodes it's better for the coin. 

Pick the node closest to you
http://darkcoin.mine.nu

Overview of p2pool
http://whatisp2pool.com

Go to P2Pool Guys !

I see folks have started to switch over to p2p which is awesome. Hash rate has gone almost twice overnight and could still continue to grow if more and more just give it a shot. The painful part if just the first few hours guys, after that it is really really smooth and easy. Everyone gets paid as soon as we hit a block and there is no registration, workers, payout schedule etc to worry about and it is great for the network.

[child_harold]

Dont you think there's a risk of raising fears simply by pointing that out? Why even mention it? It might appear defensive if we emphasize how we dont condone a, b or c?

Darkcoin is more like electronic cash than Bitcoin - thats it.

If people could stop banging on about using it for dodgy activities that would be a start. Just shup up about your drugs - nobody cares what you do with your money. Thats the point.

Ok, that might be true.

Just frightening to think about  selling and buying humans, organs, drugs etc. with Darkcoin on the internet, not to mention all the scams that will be easily pulled off with Darkcoin.

Humans are scary. Old story.
Darkcoin is cash. What you do wit your cash is up to you.

The name DarkCoin already implies where it may be used best imo

That's entirely subjective. Darkness hides things and some things are not for the seeing.

Anonymity and darkness share this quality.

Some people are in fear of anonymity. To them it means lawlessness,  lack of accountability and anarchy. These people are ants.
 
We are grasshoppers.

[coins101]

wearing that T-Shirt means being in favour of Silkroad and other shady stuff?

Why not justa agree that it shows your pro-darkcoin stance, and leave it at that?

Ok, I see. What is the purpose of DarkCoin, how will u use its DarkSend? What for, exactly?

Anonymous transfer of money.

What for exactly? Bitcoin's block chain is enough for me personally.  Nobody can track my address to my name.

Granted if I wanted to launder money, buy illegal substances etc., I'd use DarkSend

The second someone links your name, IP address or any other information to one bitcoin transaction, now or years into the future, all your bitcoin transactions will forever be linked to you. If you transfer balances to a new wallet, there is a link.

[CHAOSiTEC]

we are growing, come and help mine darkcoin, and get a chance of winning the lottery pool.

once a week 50% of the fees, will be drawn,
to one lucky winner... is it your turn next?

Pool Pays Witdrawal fee: 0.0

Please spread your hashing power, we dont want 1 pool to have >50%

DDOS Protected pool

[porcupine87]

What I like about this coin is, that the marketing will start when darksend works smoothly. So you can expect more value in the future...

[MasterMined710]

Bitcoin's block chain is enough for me personally.  Nobody can track my address to my name.

If you think that is enough, then use that. Some people think HTTP is secure enough, others use HTTPS. Some people think having a password like hello123 is enough, others use a more secure password.

Jungian - EXCELLENT answer imho. I like the references you gave VERY much.
I think this should be copy/pasted into the darkcoin.io website FAQ

Also MUST post that DarkSend/DarkCoin does not endorse illegal activity since it won't be accepted by governments, it needs some disclaimer

Technologies do not have opinions.

DarkCoin is a brand, its technology is another thing. If you don't post that it does NOT endorse illegal activity, people are going to connect this brand with Silkroad etc. which is not favourable

That is your opinion. I think it's very favorable.

Ok, now I understand your position. Can i buy the meth from u?

you sound like an statist authoritarian prohibitionist. darkcoin may not be right for people like you. you should find another thread to troll.

[cyanez]

I have a friend who's in an abusive relationship. She's been saving money to start a new life as far away from that pos as she can get. Problem is, the little she has can't be stored in her bank account because he has access. Even if she could deposit it, she has to account for every penny to him, so she wouldn't be able to spend it.

Now imagine her being able to transact purchases and make transfers completely anonymously, without having to leave her home or raise suspicion. To her, THAT'S the promise of Darkcoin. And that's why she's invested.

If you think the "dark" part of Darkcoin will only benefit people who want to do something illegal, then yours is a crisis of imagination.

[coins101]

Your point is not hard to grasp, it's just a typical statist cowardly opinion that you should bow to the lawmakers for pragmatic reasons in order not to lose money on your investment.

Completely wrong

Remake your point then instead of pointing out what is isn't.

In order for people to understand the advancement that Darkcoin aims at bringing to the crypto currency market, it needs to point out its role as a technology and NOT to endorse illegal activities [such as child pornography, selling organs etc that is DONE WITH ANONYMOUS TRANSACTIONS].

This has nothing to do with "Bowing to the lawmakers"

It's role in technology is the creation of cash over the internet.

You don't put your name and address on the fiat cash you put on your wallet, do you?

So darkcoin is cash over the internet. You can have transactions on a darkcoin blockchain, or you can choose privacy and avoid leaving a trace.

Just as Facebook, Google and Amazon use cookies to track you, you can let them or you can use a do-not-track-me service.

Like darkcoin, using cash privately does not mean you are out to commit nefarious acts. It just means, I would rather keep some online cash transactions private.

[illodin]

Also, if you ever do BTC business with someone who does something illegal and gets caught, you might be put under investigation as well. Depending on where you live this might be a major annoyance - ranging from friendly interrogation to getting your computers and finances confiscated/frozen and even getting arrested.

An example might be, someone steals a credit card, deposits fiat to an exchange using that cc, buys BTC, and uses that BTC to buy a second hand computer part from you that you were selling on the internet. Now the credit card theft could be linked to you.

[chompyZ]

What I like about this coin is, that the marketing will start when darksend works smoothly. So you can expect more value in the future...

What I like about this coin (personal view) -
* It brings innovation x 3 and counting... (x11, DarkSend, DGW) whereas most alts are pure copycats
* It has an actual person standing behind it whereas most alts devs hide (makes it easier to dump & run)
* It has a full-time dev whereas most alt devs rolled-out the coin, and just let it be...
* It solves a real need, whereas most alts solve nothing beyond what Bitcoin already provides.
* Devs DO rather than TALK, whereas most alts are marketing pumpers
* Devs listen to the community, whereas in most alts devs wouldn't care less.
* The community is genuine long-term believers, whereas in most alts if the coin jumps everyone dumps.

[Madychoux]

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Join us to MightyPool.net P2Pool Node

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• You don't need to create an account
• You get paid directly after a block is found
• You get no transaction fees
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How to join this Node ?

run your miner with those informations : stratum+tcp://mightypool.net:7903 -u YourDarkcoinWalletAddress -p x

[th00ber]

In P2Pool we trust !

[coins101]

What is this all about?



people arguing about darkcoin on coindesk!!!!

[nbk]

hi all....i don´t wanna be a hater or so, i don´t want to write something about the cpu coin scam in the first days/week...
i´m very intrested in the darkcoin features, but when i red about this KGW exploit and the new DGW, so i´m a bit
confused and i have a question!

the original kgw code is used without any problems by...

Megacoin   1 + (0.7084 * pow((double(PastBlocksMass)/double(144)), -1.228))   2.5 * 60   TimeDaySeconds * 0.25   TimeDaySeconds * 7

Anoncoin   1 + (0.7084 * pow((double(PastBlocksMass)/double(144)), -1.228))   3 * 60   TimeDaySeconds * 0.25   TimeDaySeconds * 7

Vertcoin   1 + (0.7084 * pow((double(PastBlocksMass)/double(144)), -1.228))   2.5 * 60   TimeDaySeconds * 0.25   TimeDaySeconds * 7

and others....


but darkcoin used this....

Darkcoin   1 + (0.7084 * pow((double(PastBlocksMass)/double(28.2)), -1.228))   2.5 * 60   TimeDaySeconds * 0.025   TimeDaySeconds * 7


...so was it a KGW problem generally or was it the own KGW interpretation of darkcoin, that made this exploit possible?

sorry for my english
greetings nbk

please can i get an answer before this question is gone in this huge thread?!

[n00bnoxious]

Miners!!

Please start moving hash rate into the p2pool nodes it's better for the coin.  

Pick the node closest to you
http://darkcoin.mine.nu

Overview of p2pool
http://whatisp2pool.com

Go to P2Pool Guys !

I see folks have started to switch over to p2p which is awesome. Hash rate has gone almost twice overnight and could still continue to grow if more and more just give it a shot. The painful part if just the first few hours guys, after that it is really really smooth and easy. Everyone gets paid as soon as we hit a block and there is no registration, workers, payout schedule etc to worry about and it is great for the network.

The first hours are only painful if you don't consider that you'll receive payouts long after you've finished mining too... It all adds up to the same. Nobody loses out by using P2Pool - well, only people with miners on terrible Internet lines.

[hyunsookmom]

It's a genuine question, but are NXT and it's clones Anonomous like Darkcoin?

I know they have central trading but they show up on the blockchain right?

[LimLims]

What is this all about?



people arguing about darkcoin on coindesk!!!!

It's a non-factual claim. None were premined -- that's 0.00%. It was a fair launch and like many cryptos, early adopters enjoyed lower mining difficulty. The amount mined in the first 24h is about 2% the 84M max. I honestly wish people could let the coins compete on the quality of their features & implementations rather than manufacturing FUD.